First Look: DC's Shazam Trailer
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Batman isn't carrying
Afleck wasn't carrying a gun lol
He shot ppl with the grappling hook and punched them in the face
But also if you shooting at me and I get your gun away from you, you getting shot
That's just real lol
Camo Batman wasn't carrying
He disarmed guns in his face then used them to rescue his peeps
And broke necks when he was out of ammo
That's just logical to do
Lmaocuz I laughed so hard the kids came to check on me!
Where is the lie tho haha
Yawn. Another DC snoozefest.
but here is the thing
the last Marvel Spiderman appearances were PERFECT
but they were direct form Ditko and the cartoons...
NO ORIGIN STORY
even thought that was 3rd actor playing him on screen
and I feel MORE people KNOW Batman's origin than Spiderman.
and they either felt COMPELLED to do it
you know what I take that back
I think LACK of continuity and bad management kinda FORCED their hand.
but if you are NOT using AFFLECK...
you just gonna give the people THIS Batman?
and have a climatic scene where he ACTUALLY fires a gun?
that is a WHOLE LOT to ASK cuz.
OK I KNOW your version is an R and not for kids but I asked this child before she went back to bed
does Batman use guns?
She said No Daddy...
Batman uses some weapons that might LOOK and WORK like guns but NEVER guns because that is what killed his parents and made him an orphan.
So I asked What would YOU think if you saw a movie or read a book where he DID use a gun?
She said that's not Batman that wouldn't happen.
I said what if?
If she said he would have a VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS reason then.
He is Batman.
But Batman doesn't NEED a gun to win.
Stop being scared lol
Movies be trash cause they cater to what they think ppl wanna see instead of showing them something new and improved.
but its BATMAN...
you seen/heard what these cac fanboys did to the stars of the last Star Wars movies?
And like I said he ain't carrying a gun
The only time he'd use one is in the middle of the action
This knock cats out and they stay out for 90 days shit is over with lol.
I mean what does he shoot when he's in the bat plane or in the batmobile lol
Water or bullets?
What Star wars movies?
The one where Ron Howard made a safe nothing movie? Or the critically acclaimed rogue one where they went THERE?
First DC fucked up one of my comic book favorite characters Green Lantern.
And then Fox Entertainment fucked up one of my favorite villians Apocalypse (En Sabah Nur)
Now this bullshit of my favorite character Shazam aka Captain Marvel.
This shit looks like Kick Ass 3 all over it.
Well at least Black Panther and the introduction of Thanos went well.
You cant win em all.
not the spin offs
the main ones...
they attacked the black storm trooper Rey and the Asian girl
the girls off social media completely
these fools think they OWN the characters...
thing is I think REAL Batman fans gonna respect it but...
it MIGHT confuse the audience.
and that is through no fault of your own
nah - that ain't even close-
What is Einstein's definition of insanity? = Batman
the character is pathological about his methods - OCD
his goals and accepted results can evolve - but how he gets there isn't.
Frank Miller territory of incidental killing and gun usage is as far as you can go before you break it...
IMO you might not understand the core of either character you referenced above.
so your example is very poor:
Logan's character is always a killer -
fuck Bryan Singer, Fox never did Wolverine right-
at its inception Logan's character has to exert great self restraint
1. not to kill
2. attempt to be civilized
It took 3 decades of the character evolving and remembering who he is before killing became an extreme option for him
(just like it took 3 decades of character evolution for Cyclops to be able to understand Logan and seeing Magneto's rational)
Without that character evolution the Old Man Logan story would not have worked in the books.
variations of that plot have been done multiple times -
but what the best Batman writers always work with is not that Batman is a genius,
they highlight his insanity- he doesn't make logical choices nor efficient choices if they cause dissonance with his pathology
And in stories where he is forced to face this reality - it takes a good while for him to recover.
Dam.
true story ^^^^
they got a legit fund raiser to RE-DO the last Star War movie WITHOUT the "minorities" apparently
nah - that ain't even close-
What is Einstein's definition of insanity? = Batman
the character is pathological about his methods - OCD
his goals and accepted results can evolve - but how he gets there isn't.
Frank Miller territory of incidental killing and gun usage is as far as you can go before you break it...
IMO you might not understand the core of either character you referenced above.
so your example is very poor:
Logan's character is always a killer -
fuck Bryan Singer, Fox never did Wolverine right-
at its inception Logan's character has to exert great self restraint
1. not to kill
2. attempt to be civilized
It took 3 decades of the character evolving and remembering who he is before killing became an extreme option for him
(just like it took 3 decades of character evolution for Cyclops to be able to understand Logan and seeing Magneto's rational)
Without that character evolution the Old Man Logan story would not have worked in the books.
variations of that plot have been done multiple times -
but what the best Batman writers always work with is not that Batman is a genius,
they highlight his insanity- he doesn't make logical choices nor efficient choices if they cause dissonance with his pathology
And in stories where he is forced to face this reality - it takes a good while for him to recover.
All due respect you took it a lil too far into the metaphor with Logan
It wasn't a cross comparison of the esseene of the characters
Just that in this stage they are older more rugged etc.
That's it.
And I have repeatedly said he not carrying a gun
Just in the middle of a gun fight he's not going to not use one temporarily that's all.
Guns aren't a thing for him but it's also fake and not gritty if he's fighting gunmen close quarters and just sets them down gently lol
fam...it was BAD really bad
I mean death threats getting her personal information groups of dorks attacking her on the regular.
I think thats exactly what Affleck wanted to do
I also think its the direction what Matt Reeves is leaning towards and why WB hasn't approved neither of their scripts so far
Nolan's Dark Knight was film noir - it was much closer to Hitchcock and very far from Spielberg... and it broke box office records when it came out a decade ago- Watchmen didn't make as much money but was well received- so yes I think US and global audiences are more than ready for a "mature" well written superhero movie
then I do NOT see why DC/WB doesnt do @largebillsonlyplease version (Matt reeves)
its CHEAPER, cleaner easier smarter and more CRITIC FRIENDLY.
OK it won't be a BLOCKBUSTER most likely
but there is something to be said for respectability
and art
and well just being GOOD.
OK I understand an R is tough but Deadpool and Logan proved its doable.
and its not like its THAT far a departure from the TRUE Batman.
but I really do NOT know what DC fans want right now?
and it isn't REALLY their fault.
Are we doing a CONNECTED universe?
Or continued stand alone films
I don't care myself I just want GOOD
I was VERY impressed with the tone and effects of Aquaman
this one if my kids are the judge will be a BIG family friendly film (and that is NOT a bad thing)
unfortunately Shazam came off as SILLY and I don't know if yo want to go THAT far.
and that suit?
its funny how a studio STILL doesn't realize how f*cking important something like that is.
sidebar...
@largebillsonlyplease in YOUR version of Batman The Detective.
How much is e actually in the Batman SUIT?
They trash
He's in the suit as much as he needs to be
I mean we can finally get a duel Bruce Wayne for once or nah?
And that's exactly why you don't cater to those type of pieces of shit
All those ppl voted for Trump too I'd bet a million on that
Ok but honestly the ONLY time we REALLY got Bruce Wayne?
was Batman '66 and the Animated Series and Gotham (kinda)
I feel like a writer has a WHOLE LOT of heaving lifting to do to get that developed.
The audience doesn't REALLY know Bruce.
Bruce is the drunken Playboy
they don't know Matches Malone
and they don't know Batman ,,,the world's greatest detective either.
you got about 2 hours to do ALL that cuz...
good f*cking luck.
Not for me. But the kids will love this. I like how its tonally different from Aquaman yet it exists in same comicverse . No coincidence they released both at virtually the same time either. Diversify your bonds nigga.
wait which one..?
wait which one..?
the Asian girl and the girl who played Rey
and they f*cked with the black storm trooper too
real talk
Luke/Mark Hamill had to get on social media to intervene.
"improved" might be too much...
I agree that instead of producing art - its a calculated business - in this case they really don't understand their customers...
here is the problem imo - comic books / Star Wars are a new mythology...
in the past century - sentimental stories based on older myths and characters from Robin Hood, King Arthur, Gods of Olympus, 3 Musketeers, to Bible characters received films faithful to the source before creatives started trying to reimagine or improve for commercial purposes... No one is upset that every 10 years there will be a shitty reimagined 3 musketeers or robin hood, because the traditional story was already done well in an earlier film
Just like in the past many fans of comics & scifi today want to experience story telling that tries to match or exceed what they have read or seen through other more limited media.
Backlash is generated because today instead of the traditional story -in many cases they are getting market tested "entertainment" (guaranteed lo quality of creative writing) geared to at best attract a wider audience at worst pander to a social agenda
In the case of geeks there is going to be extreme minority (alt right geekdom)
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