It’s like some of these dudes are 10 years old. They just want the fighting to start at minute 1 and keep up nonstop until the credits roll. No story, no plot, just fighting.
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It’s like some of these dudes are 10 years old. They just want the fighting to start at minute 1 and keep up nonstop until the credits roll. No story, no plot, just fighting.
uhhh no. we're mad because we know how the shit will end up playing out. They will have a bunch of heart to heart moments. She some how ends up in danger. he saves her. Or, he can't be with her because of his "secret". Villain catches her. Hero risks his life saving her. It's boring. It doesn't have to be all action, but the story can revolve around something other than a love story.
This dude Thor fell to earth and fell in love with the first chic he met. I'm pretty sure if you look up any MCU ranking, both Thors and Iron Man 2 will be towards the bottom. Hell, even Avengers 2. They didn't have to make Hulk and Widow a thing.
Hahahahahahahaha!!!! Bro.....you really sound annoyed that a man and a woman got together in front of you. Thor fell in love with JANE FOSTER. That follows the comics.
I really think they just really have issues with women to the point they don't want them on the screen. They want sausage fest movies.
You're missing the point.
Spider-Man, Ant-Man, Hulk (solo movie) all had love interests. Those movies were all better than the Thor's and Iron Man 2.
Im sure im gonna have a blast watching it but...
Should the Ragnarok storyline be a comedy?
Should the Ragnarok storyline be a comedy?
No, but infinity war is the real end of times. So I guess I can see why they are playing it this way.
I am excited, I am ready!! 
Trailers making it look that way..
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HOME FILM REVIEWSOCTOBER 19, 2017 9:00AM PTFilm Review: ‘Thor: Ragnarok’Thor battles his sister and Marvel franchise fatigue alike as director Taika Waititi injects a welcome dose of self-parody into the character's standalone series.
By Peter Debruge
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Director: Taika Waititi Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, Cate Blanchett Nov 3, 2017 2 hours 10 minutes
Official Site: http://marvel.com/movies/movie/222/thor_ragnarok
Hey, comicbook fans, it’s another Thor movie, and that can only mean one thing: It’s almost time for another Avengers movie! While you wait, Disney and Marvel Studios hope to loot another half-billion dollars or so from the world’s wallets with this outlandish amuse bouche featuring the God of Thunder and his Abs of Steel, with yet another confusing plot crudely bastardized from Norse mythology in which most of the action takes place on a parallel world you care nothing about.
Like Thor’s two previous solo outings (definite low points in the Marvel oeuvre), this one is pretty much skippable, although it’s not without its pleasures — most notably, the fact that Thor’s not so solo this time around, with cameos/co-starring opportunities for the Hulk, Doctor Strange and a few leftover bits of Tony Stark’s wardrobe (including a retro Duran Duran T-shirt that’s good for a laugh). And while it’s not saying much, “Thor: Ragnarok” is easily the best of the three Thor movies — or maybe I just think so because its screenwriters and I finally seem to agree on one thing: The Thor movies are preposterous.
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Rather than taking any of what happens seriously, co-writers Eric Pearson, Craig Kyle and Christopher L. Yost seem to have anticipated the film’s own “Mystery Science Theater 3000” track, incorporating self-aware punchlines throughout. The script pokes fun at the movie’s plot, production design, locations and past adventures. Heck, not even the obligatory cameo from Thor co-creator Stan Lee is sacred — identified here as the “creepy old man” who shears Thor’s tresses, resulting in a butch new rugby haircut.
Whereas the two previous Thor movies were somber battle epics directed by Kenneth Branagh (who attempted an awkward sort of pulp-Shakespeare hybrid) and Alan Taylor (a “Game of Thrones” helmer obsessed with making it gritty), respectively, the latest was clearly conceived as a wacky adventure comedy. Irreverent almost to the point of camp, that approach fits comfortably within the wheelhouse of Kiwi director Taika Waititi, for whom this undertaking was roughly 100 times the scale of his next most expensive production (cult hits “Hunt for the Wilderpeople” and “What We Do in the Shadows”).
Frankly, as heroes go, Thor is a big yawn: a virtually invincible guy with a hammer, built like a linebacker and woodenly played by the otherwise charismatic Chris Hemsworth(so great in “Rush” and last year’s “Ghostbusters”). Meanwhile, Waititi is someone worth celebrating: a small-time actor-director from far-away New Zealand who has leveraged a decade of eccentric, inventive indie features (many featured at Sundance) into a shot at helming one of the year’s biggest tentpoles. More heroic still, Waititi has managed to finally imbue Marvel’s dullest Avenger with a personality — even if said personality is little more than stony stoicism, best revealed in comedy riffs with hot-headed rival/ally the Hulk (Mark Ruffalo, whom we first meet trapped in mean, green, all-CG mode).
“Ragnarok” finds a creative way to pit these two Avengers against one another — later, once Hulk has mellowed into human form, they bicker over who’s the strongest — all of which is far more entertaining than watching them smash and hammer some generic CG adversary (although there’s plenty of that in the final act as well). It also re-reintroduces Thor’s troublemaking kid brother, Loki (Tom Hiddleston), who sorta-kinda helped prevent the nonsensical apocalypse of “Thor: The Dark World,” leaving everyone (but the audience) to think he had died a hero. And it even enlists yet another Oscar winner to the ensemble, casting Cate Blanchett as Hela, the older sister Thor never knew he had, and who now returns to enact an ancient Norse prophecy (hence, “Ragnarok”) that foretold an epic battle resulting in the death of many gods and the destruction of their realm.
Dressed in form-fitting black fetish gear and sporting a twisting, antler-spiked headdress, Blanchett looks like some sort of latter-day Maleficent and suggests how Marlene Dietrich or Barbara Stanwyck might have interpreted a Marvel villainess, throwing back her shoulders and playing to the camera. In her first encounter with her brothers, she demonstrates her awesome power by crushing Thor’s almighty hammer and banishing him to a distant trash planet while she sets about dismantling Asgard.
At the risk of mixing the DC and Marvel universes, Asgard is one of those places that, like Superman’s home planet of Krypton, exists to be destroyed, and Waititi’s challenge with “Ragnarok” is how to fulfill a prophecy and still make it feel like a happy ending. I’ll let you be the judge of how well he succeeds, since as far as I’m concerned, the less time spent on Asgard, the better (it’s basically an over-art-directed Maxfield Parrish painting, where the costumes are tacky and the extras always look bored). It’s a place that matters only to Odin (Anthony Hopkins), who’s apparently been doing oceanfront yoga against a greenscreen on earth since we last saw him.
At any rate, it’s no great loss that Hela is free to wreak havoc on Asgard while Thor and Loki are stranded on Sakaar, which is sort of an intergalactic trash dump where waylaid heroes are forced to compete in elaborate gladiator battles. To elaborate would spoil certain surprises. Suffice it to say, Jeff Goldblum pops up as the so-called “Grandmaster,” an effete emperor of some sort who seems to have taken makeup tips from Padmé Amidala (incidentally, Natalie Portman had the good sense to sit out this “Thor” sequel).
Goldblum is actually the best thing about this mess, since he openly mocks the film’s underlying silliness — a pursuit in which he is ably assisted by Tessa Thompson, who plays a sarcastic, Han Solo-like renegade who first captures Thor, then later helps him to escape through the “Devil’s Anus.” Yes, that’s what the movie actually calls the gaping CG wormhole that connects Sakaar with “Ass-guard” (as the Grandmaster calls Asgard in another such joke).
Back in the day, audiences had to wait a few weeks for Mad magazine to skewer the latest self-important Hollywood blockbuster. These days, Marvel sequels arrive as parodies of the earnest, self-respecting entries that launched each character (cf. “Iron Man 2’s” undoing of all that “Iron Man” established). If only that were an indication of the genre’s own impending Ragnarok — a sign that the entire phenomenon is about to implode, only to be reborn as something more worthy of the audience’s time and intelligence.
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Jonathan says:
OCTOBER 29, 2017 AT 10:41 AM
another troll another shit comment as his life
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Jonathan says:
OCTOBER 29, 2017 AT 10:38 AM
this review got a value of my shit that i flushed today morning
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Benross says:
OCTOBER 28, 2017 AT 7:51 AM
You are a fool. This movie is brilliant. Almost the best marvel film to date. Go back to reviewing Paul Blart you chump.
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HOME FILM REVIEWSOCTOBER 19, 2017 9:00AM PTFilm Review: ‘Thor: Ragnarok’Thor battles his sister and Marvel franchise fatigue alike as director Taika Waititi injects a welcome dose of self-parody into the character's standalone series.
By Peter Debruge
@AskDebruge
FacebookTwitterRedditEmailShow more sharing optionsLinkedInWhatsAppPrintPin ItTumblr
CREDIT: REX/SHUTTERSTOCK
Director: Taika Waititi Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, Cate Blanchett Nov 3, 2017 2 hours 10 minutes
Official Site: http://marvel.com/movies/movie/222/thor_ragnarok
Hey, comicbook fans, it’s another Thor movie, and that can only mean one thing: It’s almost time for another Avengers movie! While you wait, Disney and Marvel Studios hope to loot another half-billion dollars or so from the world’s wallets with this outlandish amuse bouche featuring the God of Thunder and his Abs of Steel, with yet another confusing plot crudely bastardized from Norse mythology in which most of the action takes place on a parallel world you care nothing about.
Like Thor’s two previous solo outings (definite low points in the Marvel oeuvre), this one is pretty much skippable, although it’s not without its pleasures — most notably, the fact that Thor’s not so solo this time around, with cameos/co-starring opportunities for the Hulk, Doctor Strange and a few leftover bits of Tony Stark’s wardrobe (including a retro Duran Duran T-shirt that’s good for a laugh). And while it’s not saying much, “Thor: Ragnarok” is easily the best of the three Thor movies — or maybe I just think so because its screenwriters and I finally seem to agree on one thing: The Thor movies are preposterous.
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Rather than taking any of what happens seriously, co-writers Eric Pearson, Craig Kyle and Christopher L. Yost seem to have anticipated the film’s own “Mystery Science Theater 3000” track, incorporating self-aware punchlines throughout. The script pokes fun at the movie’s plot, production design, locations and past adventures. Heck, not even the obligatory cameo from Thor co-creator Stan Lee is sacred — identified here as the “creepy old man” who shears Thor’s tresses, resulting in a butch new rugby haircut.
Whereas the two previous Thor movies were somber battle epics directed by Kenneth Branagh (who attempted an awkward sort of pulp-Shakespeare hybrid) and Alan Taylor (a “Game of Thrones” helmer obsessed with making it gritty), respectively, the latest was clearly conceived as a wacky adventure comedy. Irreverent almost to the point of camp, that approach fits comfortably within the wheelhouse of Kiwi director Taika Waititi, for whom this undertaking was roughly 100 times the scale of his next most expensive production (cult hits “Hunt for the Wilderpeople” and “What We Do in the Shadows”).
Frankly, as heroes go, Thor is a big yawn: a virtually invincible guy with a hammer, built like a linebacker and woodenly played by the otherwise charismatic Chris Hemsworth(so great in “Rush” and last year’s “Ghostbusters”). Meanwhile, Waititi is someone worth celebrating: a small-time actor-director from far-away New Zealand who has leveraged a decade of eccentric, inventive indie features (many featured at Sundance) into a shot at helming one of the year’s biggest tentpoles. More heroic still, Waititi has managed to finally imbue Marvel’s dullest Avenger with a personality — even if said personality is little more than stony stoicism, best revealed in comedy riffs with hot-headed rival/ally the Hulk (Mark Ruffalo, whom we first meet trapped in mean, green, all-CG mode).
“Ragnarok” finds a creative way to pit these two Avengers against one another — later, once Hulk has mellowed into human form, they bicker over who’s the strongest — all of which is far more entertaining than watching them smash and hammer some generic CG adversary (although there’s plenty of that in the final act as well). It also re-reintroduces Thor’s troublemaking kid brother, Loki (Tom Hiddleston), who sorta-kinda helped prevent the nonsensical apocalypse of “Thor: The Dark World,” leaving everyone (but the audience) to think he had died a hero. And it even enlists yet another Oscar winner to the ensemble, casting Cate Blanchett as Hela, the older sister Thor never knew he had, and who now returns to enact an ancient Norse prophecy (hence, “Ragnarok”) that foretold an epic battle resulting in the death of many gods and the destruction of their realm.
Dressed in form-fitting black fetish gear and sporting a twisting, antler-spiked headdress, Blanchett looks like some sort of latter-day Maleficent and suggests how Marlene Dietrich or Barbara Stanwyck might have interpreted a Marvel villainess, throwing back her shoulders and playing to the camera. In her first encounter with her brothers, she demonstrates her awesome power by crushing Thor’s almighty hammer and banishing him to a distant trash planet while she sets about dismantling Asgard.
At the risk of mixing the DC and Marvel universes, Asgard is one of those places that, like Superman’s home planet of Krypton, exists to be destroyed, and Waititi’s challenge with “Ragnarok” is how to fulfill a prophecy and still make it feel like a happy ending. I’ll let you be the judge of how well he succeeds, since as far as I’m concerned, the less time spent on Asgard, the better (it’s basically an over-art-directed Maxfield Parrish painting, where the costumes are tacky and the extras always look bored). It’s a place that matters only to Odin (Anthony Hopkins), who’s apparently been doing oceanfront yoga against a greenscreen on earth since we last saw him.
At any rate, it’s no great loss that Hela is free to wreak havoc on Asgard while Thor and Loki are stranded on Sakaar, which is sort of an intergalactic trash dump where waylaid heroes are forced to compete in elaborate gladiator battles. To elaborate would spoil certain surprises. Suffice it to say, Jeff Goldblum pops up as the so-called “Grandmaster,” an effete emperor of some sort who seems to have taken makeup tips from Padmé Amidala (incidentally, Natalie Portman had the good sense to sit out this “Thor” sequel).
Goldblum is actually the best thing about this mess, since he openly mocks the film’s underlying silliness — a pursuit in which he is ably assisted by Tessa Thompson, who plays a sarcastic, Han Solo-like renegade who first captures Thor, then later helps him to escape through the “Devil’s Anus.” Yes, that’s what the movie actually calls the gaping CG wormhole that connects Sakaar with “Ass-guard” (as the Grandmaster calls Asgard in another such joke).
Back in the day, audiences had to wait a few weeks for Mad magazine to skewer the latest self-important Hollywood blockbuster. These days, Marvel sequels arrive as parodies of the earnest, self-respecting entries that launched each character (cf. “Iron Man 2’s” undoing of all that “Iron Man” established). If only that were an indication of the genre’s own impending Ragnarok — a sign that the entire phenomenon is about to implode, only to be reborn as something more worthy of the audience’s time and intelligence.
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Jonathan says:
OCTOBER 29, 2017 AT 10:41 AM
another troll another shit comment as his life
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Jonathan says:
OCTOBER 29, 2017 AT 10:38 AM
this review got a value of my shit that i flushed today morning
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Benross says:
OCTOBER 28, 2017 AT 7:51 AM
You are a fool. This movie is brilliant. Almost the best marvel film to date. Go back to reviewing Paul Blart you chump.
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I'll see for myself on Nov 2, good drop though OP
It wasn't what we hope Black Panther to be but it wasn't as bad as they're making it out to be, it ok, just not OMG great.
*(mild spoiler)
Valkyrie was a little wack (no ass @ all), and Heimdall should have have been more bad ass but it worked for what it was. jmo
All this shit is setup for future Marvel money anyway.
*(mild spoiler)
Valkyrie was a little wack (no ass @ all), and Heimdall should have have been more bad ass but it worked for what it was. jmo
All this shit is setup for future Marvel money anyway.
It won’t see $300 million.
And even though black panther will be the most visually beautiful movie ever film, it won’t do well either. Disney won’t see the writing until the avengers numbers come in. They’re going to have to get rid of everyone at espn.
.....Imma still see it...catch a matinee in an eat in theater and relax in a Barca-lounger ...I'll pay $14 for dat !!!.
Disney is worth almost 200 billion, and is considered the largest media company on the planet, they not looking for profits on
any one thing or entity they're looking at longevity, they could break even on every marvel movie they ever make and no fucks given they will just keep making them, more epic and more lavish, until the fans can't live without them for generations. Disney is about legacy, not one hit wonders, I think they know what they're doin, jmo I liked what you said too.
They don't give two fucks about spoilers because that was a big one in the title for the review.
I think the weekend pull will be big for Thor. I don't like the comedy route they went but I like the character. There are quite a few surprises in there to spark everyone but my money is more focused on Black Panther. Matter fact, I'm gonna hold off on taking the kids to see this opening weekend. The numbers will be fine without my family. But for Black Panther - we gonna be there about three times on opening weekend!
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I think the weekend pull will be big for Thor. I don't like the comedy route they went but I like the character. There are quite a few surprises in there to spark everyone but my money is more focused on Black Panther. Matter fact, I'm gonna hold off on taking the kids to see this opening weekend. The numbers will be fine without my family. But for Black Panther - we gonna be there about three times on opening weekend!
oNE
It's already made $107M+ overseas and is predicted to cross $400M+ worldwide by Sunday.
IT won’t do $300 domestically.
Fuck domestic
What are you talking about?
All the reviews I've seen have done nothing but PRAISE the film, saying it's an action packed comedy that is easily the best Thor movie of the 3. So, in spite of this particular "review", I can't wait to see it... 
And the author of this review comes across to me as yet another butthurt DC fan who wants to spoil the film to try to hurt the box office bottom line...
And the author of this review comes across to me as yet another butthurt DC fan who wants to spoil the film to try to hurt the box office bottom line...
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Good.
Misdirection is good, doesn't give away the whole movie.
That is encouraging. I haven't watched a trailer in a while so I kinda forgot a few scenes they showed.
The only superhero movies to open above $100M+ and not pass $300M domestically are X-Men: The Last Stand and Man of Steel. Two poorly reviewed films. So far, the Thor Ragnarok reviews are overwhelming positive. It will be more than fine.
All the reviews I've seen have done nothing but PRAISE the film, saying it's an action packed comedy that is easily the best Thor movie of the 3. So, in spite of this particular "review", I can't wait to see it...
And the author of this review comes across to me as yet another butthurt DC fan who wants to spoil the film to try to hurt the box office bottom line...
Well it sure isn't hard to be better than the first 2 Thors lol I will check out the bgol reviews before paying to see it.
Speaking of legacy love him or hate him I was always curious why Tyler P always puts his name b4 his films and plays. Thought it was stupid. I get it now.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tyler-perry-swings-action-mode-229394
Perry explained to Lopez that he was building a brand with his projects in the vein of Walt Disney, "People give me flack, why is your name above every damn thing that you do? And it's not an ego thing, I tell anybody, if you're building a brand, you gotta look at people who've built brands before like Walt Disney. I want my name to be associated with hope, inspiration, fun, laughter, pot smoking...I'm kidding about the pot."
They???
Have you looked at "their" rotten tomatoes score??
Have you looked at "their" rotten tomatoes score??
Word. Folks care way too much about "funny" or comedy relief.
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Those Capt. America movies shit all over everything else. I can do without all da comedic shit. Make my shit raw.
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