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Bruh they played the Nets lmaooo

And they released Weber to resign Boguts


A very odd post-game atmosphere in the Warriors locker room, a few guesses at why
OAKLAND — Draymond Green is one of the most interesting and talkative guys on earth, as you all know, and he was plenty chatty after tonight’s sloppy victory over Brooklyn.

Chatty, but just not about the game, his 1-for-10 shooting, or coach Steve Kerr limiting Green to only 23 minutes of action.

On all of those topics, standing in a quiet locker room that seemed far more tense than you would ever expect from a team that just qualified for the playoffs, Green had no comment.

He smiled, but said he didn’t want to talk about it tonight–by the way, I can never remember Green declining a chance to talk after a regular-season game, not ever.

And Kerr was almost as non-communicative at his post-game presser when asked why Green played so little in a game that competitive until midway through the fourth quarter.

“It just wasn’t his night,” Kerr said tersely.

And of course Kerr is rarely terse–though he also clearly was affected by having to tell Briante Weber that he’d been cut just a few seconds before Kerr walked into the press conference room.

–BANG’s Anthony Slater is reporting that the Warriors are expected to sign Lakers guard Jose Calderon once he is released by the Lakers.
–I don’t think this was an overly popular move in the Warriors’ locker room, but I can see the logic–team management probably envisions Calderon as a much safer option if they need a third point guard in some short-term playoff situation, especially due to Weber’s non-existent offensive game.–Calderon is a poor defensive player, but can make a shot, move the ball, and is a veteran who could fit into Kerr’s system for two or three important postseason minutes in a crisis.

–But also: Weber is well-liked by the Warriors players, and certainly brought a defensive energy that is always respected in that locker room. –Calderon is also known as a good teammate, so we shall see how this all works out.

This is not the normal way the Warriors go about their business, and yes, I believe it partly was about Kerr and the players feeling bad for Weber, who was still in the locker room when reporters were allowed in (he declined comment).

But there was a broader, stickier weirdness to the atmosphere tonight… just as the Warriors are about to set off on a long Eastern road trip.

Green’s limited role tonight was even odder because Kevin Durant was out with a hand injury, which meant that all of a sudden the Warriors were basically without half of their Big Four.

They still won, because Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson weren’t absent, but it was weird.

I’ve been in the Warriors’ locker room hundreds if not thousands of times, after horrible games and great games and middling games, and this was one of the more uncomfortable moods in there I’ve encountered.

The main guess is that there are some edgy feelings between Draymond and Kerr, possibly tied to Draymond’s listless play throughout the game and Kerr’s reaction to it.

If you want to take a deeper guess, maybe this had something to do with Kerr telling the team a few nights ago that they needed to hold the line on complaining about the referees–and Kerr included himself in this–and then Draymond got a technical foul that night for something he didn’t believe deserved the call.

And then he yelled a bit at Kerr after that.

Could this game have been some lingering issue between Kerr and Draymond over handling the referees or that Draymond felt singled out by Kerr’s speech? I would not rule it out.

This obviously can be changed and cleared up in a blink–Kerr and Draymond have had their issues in the past (most famously at halftime in that regular-season game in OKClast season) and have always figured it out rather quickly.

It’s part of the team dynamic–Kerr and Draymond are both fiery guys, by far the most volatile on this team, and when they bump into a little, things can get hot and stay hot for a while… and it also provides energy for the team when it happens.

No reason to think that it won’t be figured out this time, either.

But it was weird. And there are things to figure out.

Kerr was asked: Did you inform Draymond that it wasn’t his night during the game?

“No, just things weren’t going well, so we just went with a different rotation, different lineup,” Kerr said. “It just seemed like a night for that. McAdoo came in, gave us good energy. It’s no big deal.”

Do you think Green’s recent offensive struggles maybe have led to overall struggles for Draymond?

“I don’t think we’ve been moving the ball that well the last couple games,” Kerr said. “The Clipper game we had the great third quarter, but we did not move the ball particularly well.

“And I think we need to do a better job of that. We’ve got to get more five- or six-pass possessions early in the game to establish that ball movement and that rhythm and that helps everybody out.”

—Here’s Kerr on the Weber decision….

“We are actually going to let him go–just told him, just this second, and it was a very difficult thing to do, ’cause we really like him,” Kerr said.

“He’s a great, great kid and he can play in this league and he did a nice job for us. But we’re going to go in another direction. And that’s all I can say.”

So you’ll sign another point guard? “Yeah, it’ll be a point guard… We think we have something in place, but it’s not finalized. Got to wait ’til it’s official.”

 
A very odd post-game atmosphere in the Warriors locker room, a few guesses at why
OAKLAND — Draymond Green is one of the most interesting and talkative guys on earth, as you all know, and he was plenty chatty after tonight’s sloppy victory over Brooklyn.

Chatty, but just not about the game, his 1-for-10 shooting, or coach Steve Kerr limiting Green to only 23 minutes of action.

On all of those topics, standing in a quiet locker room that seemed far more tense than you would ever expect from a team that just qualified for the playoffs, Green had no comment.

He smiled, but said he didn’t want to talk about it tonight–by the way, I can never remember Green declining a chance to talk after a regular-season game, not ever.

And Kerr was almost as non-communicative at his post-game presser when asked why Green played so little in a game that competitive until midway through the fourth quarter.

“It just wasn’t his night,” Kerr said tersely.

And of course Kerr is rarely terse–though he also clearly was affected by having to tell Briante Weber that he’d been cut just a few seconds before Kerr walked into the press conference room.

–BANG’s Anthony Slater is reporting that the Warriors are expected to sign Lakers guard Jose Calderon once he is released by the Lakers.
–I don’t think this was an overly popular move in the Warriors’ locker room, but I can see the logic–team management probably envisions Calderon as a much safer option if they need a third point guard in some short-term playoff situation, especially due to Weber’s non-existent offensive game.–Calderon is a poor defensive player, but can make a shot, move the ball, and is a veteran who could fit into Kerr’s system for two or three important postseason minutes in a crisis.

–But also: Weber is well-liked by the Warriors players, and certainly brought a defensive energy that is always respected in that locker room. –Calderon is also known as a good teammate, so we shall see how this all works out.

This is not the normal way the Warriors go about their business, and yes, I believe it partly was about Kerr and the players feeling bad for Weber, who was still in the locker room when reporters were allowed in (he declined comment).

But there was a broader, stickier weirdness to the atmosphere tonight… just as the Warriors are about to set off on a long Eastern road trip.

Green’s limited role tonight was even odder because Kevin Durant was out with a hand injury, which meant that all of a sudden the Warriors were basically without half of their Big Four.

They still won, because Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson weren’t absent, but it was weird.

I’ve been in the Warriors’ locker room hundreds if not thousands of times, after horrible games and great games and middling games, and this was one of the more uncomfortable moods in there I’ve encountered.

The main guess is that there are some edgy feelings between Draymond and Kerr, possibly tied to Draymond’s listless play throughout the game and Kerr’s reaction to it.

If you want to take a deeper guess, maybe this had something to do with Kerr telling the team a few nights ago that they needed to hold the line on complaining about the referees–and Kerr included himself in this–and then Draymond got a technical foul that night for something he didn’t believe deserved the call.

And then he yelled a bit at Kerr after that.

Could this game have been some lingering issue between Kerr and Draymond over handling the referees or that Draymond felt singled out by Kerr’s speech? I would not rule it out.

This obviously can be changed and cleared up in a blink–Kerr and Draymond have had their issues in the past (most famously at halftime in that regular-season game in OKClast season) and have always figured it out rather quickly.

It’s part of the team dynamic–Kerr and Draymond are both fiery guys, by far the most volatile on this team, and when they bump into a little, things can get hot and stay hot for a while… and it also provides energy for the team when it happens.

No reason to think that it won’t be figured out this time, either.

But it was weird. And there are things to figure out.

Kerr was asked: Did you inform Draymond that it wasn’t his night during the game?

“No, just things weren’t going well, so we just went with a different rotation, different lineup,” Kerr said. “It just seemed like a night for that. McAdoo came in, gave us good energy. It’s no big deal.”

Do you think Green’s recent offensive struggles maybe have led to overall struggles for Draymond?

“I don’t think we’ve been moving the ball that well the last couple games,” Kerr said. “The Clipper game we had the great third quarter, but we did not move the ball particularly well.

“And I think we need to do a better job of that. We’ve got to get more five- or six-pass possessions early in the game to establish that ball movement and that rhythm and that helps everybody out.”

—Here’s Kerr on the Weber decision….

“We are actually going to let him go–just told him, just this second, and it was a very difficult thing to do, ’cause we really like him,” Kerr said.

“He’s a great, great kid and he can play in this league and he did a nice job for us. But we’re going to go in another direction. And that’s all I can say.”

So you’ll sign another point guard? “Yeah, it’ll be a point guard… We think we have something in place, but it’s not finalized. Got to wait ’til it’s official.”



man
dudes reach and write a full article about it
he had a bad game he felt bad he had to cut a guy and then they're like nah it's because kerr and draymond are beefing cause that's what i feel

lol
 
I'm not doing anything but posting statistics... You are debating your opinion... I posted factual statistics... Not even saying you are wrong in your opinion... Just need a little more than your opinion to consider your opinion factual...

FYI, doing a lot of talking/debating without factual statistics to back it up is what is known in BGOL circles as - RoadRaging--- :D
@RoadRage-ing......
 
I'm not doing anything but posting statistics... You are debating your opinion... I posted factual statistics... Not even saying you are wrong in your opinion... Just need a little more than your opinion to consider your opinion factual...

FYI, doing a lot of talking/debating without factual statistics to back it up is what is known in BGOL circles as - RoadRaging--- :D
We were just discussing the flexibility of the Warriors offense and when they went to the line up without Green the Warriors had their most lethal score surges.

You went to posting pers and other stuff and taking the convo in a totally different direction. We were just saying that when they went to that line up they scored a lot of points including the 50 point 3rd as a small sample size.
 
man
dudes reach and write a full article about it
he had a bad game he felt bad he had to cut a guy and then they're like nah it's because kerr and draymond are beefing cause that's what i feel

lol
I think Kerr was also testing other line ups plus giving him rest. It weird this season that the death line up worked better without Draymond (scoring wise). Curry, Klay, Iggy, KD and McGee/Zaza had been lethal in putting up points in bunches.

Then Green would come back in and Anchor the defense. He rarely uses that line up tho. I wish he would try it out more tho
 
I think Kerr was also testing other line ups plus giving him rest. It weird this season that the death line up worked better without Draymond (scoring wise). Curry, Klay, Iggy, KD and McGee/Zaza had been lethal in putting up points in bunches.

Then Green would come back in and Anchor the defense. He rarely uses that line up tho. I wish he would try it out more tho

Basically it was just one of those nights he didn't have it going necessarily and he sat.
If this was last year he'd have logged 40 minutes off the rip just cause.

the lineup you speak of might come into play but its all tinkering at this point

the only person who isn't out there with the 2nd unit at times is steph
 
I think Kerr was also testing other line ups plus giving him rest. It weird this season that the death line up worked better without Draymond (scoring wise). Curry, Klay, Iggy, KD and McGee/Zaza had been lethal in putting up points in bunches.

Then Green would come back in and Anchor the defense. He rarely uses that line up tho. I wish he would try it out more tho

Basically it was just one of those nights he didn't have it going necessarily and he sat.
If this was last year he'd have logged 40 minutes off the rip just cause.

the lineup you speak of might come into play but its all tinkering at this point

the only person who isn't out there with the 2nd unit at times is steph

work in progress...
 
We were just discussing the flexibility of the Warriors offense and when they went to the line up without Green the Warriors had their most lethal score surges.

You went to posting pers and other stuff and taking the convo in a totally different direction. We were just saying that when they went to that line up they scored a lot of points including the 50 point 3rd as a small sample size.
You made a definitive statement that they were a much better team without Green in the lineup and Iggy in it... I postes evidence they are statistically NOT a better team in that context...

You are now typing long ass post with no factual support, only opinion thus you have now went completely RoadRage, Jr. On me...

Now that youve gotten all that OPINION out if the way, either show factual evidence if the point you are trying to make, dead the discussion, or as I said, keep getting your road rage on..

Look at your post I quoted and look at his posts... Same MO Bruh... Typing long ass rambling posts to mask the fact that there is no actual content to your point...

Stop it :lol:
 
You made a definitive statement that they were a much better team without Green in the lineup and Iggy in it... I postes evidence they are statistically NOT a better team in that context...

You are now typing long ass post with no factual support, only opinion thus you have now went completely RoadRage, Jr. On me...

Now that youve gotten all that OPINION out if the way, either show factual evidence if the point you are trying to make, dead the discussion, or as I said, keep getting your road rage on..

Look at your post I quoted and look at his posts... Same MO Bruh... Typing long ass rambling posts to mask the fact that there is no actual content to your point...

Stop it :lol:
That is not what I said. I never said they were a better team. I was talking about a line up that they use at times which is Curry, Klay, Iggy, KD and McGee. With how well they score when they used that line up

You make it extremely hard to talk to you because you debate everything. Everything is not right or wrong or black and white. We were just having a discussion about various lineups then you went posting stats that does not even include the line up we were talking about
 
Sanders is a monster rim protector (had a triple double with 10 blocks) and whats ironic was part of the reason why Jones got so many points that game was that in order for the Cavs to rim protect they have to do it collectively as a team often playing harder and over achieving, but every so often they get into these funks were thy get real complasive and lazy, and the first place it usually show is rim protection and switching off on the pick and rolls.
I think Sanders if 100 could instantly help out in those instances especially vs teams with big centers and teams that like to attack the paint.


Two Mavs sources say they expect Andrew Bogut will choose to join the Cavaliers once he receives a buyout from the 76ers.

 
Guess the depth chart gonna look like this




Kyrie, Deron Williams
Shum, Jr, Krover
LBJ, Jefferson, Jones
K Love, Fyre, Williams
Tristan, Bogut

Fielder or McRae???
 
That is not what I said. I never said they were a better team. I was talking about a line up that they use at times which is Curry, Klay, Iggy, KD and McGee. With how well they score when they used that line up

You make it extremely hard to talk to you because you debate everything. Everything is not right or wrong or black and white. We were just having a discussion about various lineups then you went posting stats that does not even include the line up we were talking about
You said the offense ran better with green on the bench and iggy in the game with KD at the 4... I said prove it

No long winded road rage-esque rants, youve dropped two already, just simply prove your contention... All I asked Bruh :popcorn:
 
Unless Sanders is not up to par having Bogut will be a waste vs the Warriors, no way does he have enough foot speed to switch off on their pick and rolls, they will do him just like they did Mozgov, keep him on the bench..
Bogut will be good vs big teams in the east though but I don't see the use of him vs the Warriors..

Man players are useless vs the dubs, remember Channing probably didn't log a total of 20 mins for the whole finals.

Bogut is there for depth, he gonna make the depth chart whole.


The second unit probably will be able to play together as a unit now.


Kyrie - Williams
Shum - Krover
Lebron - Jefferson
Fyre - Williams
Tristan - Bogut

Things change greatly with JR and Love healthy.


Kyrie - Williams
JR- Krover/shum
Lebron - Jefferson
Love - Fyre
Tristan - Bogut
 
You said the offense ran better with green on the bench and iggy in the game with KD at the 4... I said prove it

No long winded road rage-esque rants, youve dropped two already, just simply prove your contention... All I asked Bruh :popcorn:
Why does someone have to "prove it"? Are you like this with your friends. If so, man you must be annoying
 
Why does someone have to "prove it"? Are you like this with your friends. If so, man you must be annoying

Still 'Ragin' I see.. second level... start trying to attack the person you're 'debating' because you've got nothing at all left on the topic you've been 'debating', so you need to save face...

YOU said, GS was a much better offensive team without Green on the court.. I said, 'prove it'... You don't HAVE to prove it, because frankly you can't! I proved the plus minus between the two wasn't even close, but you have nothing but your opinion which is cool.... The fact that you are trying to defend an opinion that has been proven wrong is really rage-esque Bruh...

You may want to not address that Dude anymore Bruh... After this exchange, any insult you have for him will come off as hypocritical.... :D
 
Man players are useless vs the dubs, remember Channing probably didn't log a total of 20 mins for the whole finals.

Bogut is there for depth, he gonna make the depth chart whole.


The second unit probably will be able to play together as a unit now.


Kyrie - Williams
Shum - Krover
Lebron - Jefferson
Fyre - Williams
Tristan - Bogut

Things change greatly with JR and Love healthy.


Kyrie - Williams
JR- Krover/shum
Lebron - Jefferson
Love - Fyre
Tristan - Bogut
I know what Bogut can add to the team and in actuality he is a hood match for McGee my issue is Sanders (if healthy ) is a better match up vs Durant.
 
Unless Sanders is not up to par having Bogut will be a waste vs the Warriors, no way does he have enough foot speed to switch off on their pick and rolls, they will do him just like they did Mozgov, keep him on the bench..
Bogut will be good vs big teams in the east though but I don't see the use of him vs the Warriors..

Cavs will take bogut just to keep him off GS.
 
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Still 'Ragin' I see.. second level... start trying to attack the person you're 'debating' because you've got nothing at all left on the topic you've been 'debating', so you need to save face...

YOU said, GS was a much better offensive team without Green on the court.. I said, 'prove it'... You don't HAVE to prove it, because frankly you can't! I proved the plus minus between the two wasn't even close, but you have nothing but your opinion which is cool.... The fact that you are trying to defend an opinion that has been proven wrong is really rage-esque Bruh...

You may want to not address that Dude anymore Bruh... After this exchange, any insult you have for him will come off as hypocritical.... :D
Every time some one has a convo you be like "prove it" that is hella annoying
 
You niggas talkin this Sanders shit but when was the last time that nigga played in the NBA? Go ahead and throw him out there and see if he won't get his ass baked
 
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Every time some one has a convo you be like "prove it" that is hella annoying

You weren't having a convo you were making a definitive statement which I asked you to support... Its annoying because you presented something as definitive and fell on your ass when pressed about it... Thats why it's annoying to you... If you say something, and are asked to back it up, and can back it up, its not annoying its having a dialog...

When you makes statement and present them as definitive, and are called on it, and you can't support it, whats annoying is you are being called out on the dumb statement you made...

Your follow up response, including the long ass CP Alert posts really not saying anything, and the follow up psuedo insult 'attempt' is Road Rage-esque Bruh, end of story....

If you have an opinion, present it as such, if not, expect to be pressed, and don't get all tender when being pressed, its very embarrassing... :D
 
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