Official NBA 2016-2017 Thread - 30 teams, 1 goal. 2 weeks left, so much can happen!!
no last 6 seasons
he didn't deserve it 2 years ago for sure
last year was debatable
but you can't limit it to the past 2 years and be like ok yea whoever won it beyond those last 2 deserved it
nah
he deserved it all 4 years in miami and the last 2 in cleveland then.
Nah got him playing out of his roll, that's when you get injured...
Hint you don't get injured by overplaying you get injured playing out of your roll and trying to do shit you normally don't do..
Notice how the Cavs stay injured with all that rest while the Warriors never get injured..
The year before boston got garnett and Allen doc was voted the worst coach in professional sports, just saying... ...
GS don't get injured? Ok lol
The NBA is such an offensive and stats driven league that players like LeBron and all of his intangibles will have a hard time winning the MVP with out being in the top three scoring, especially with Harden and Westbrook putting up those numbers..
Not hardly, they get more injured in the playoffs when their players have to play harder and do things they usually don't have to do.
Someone explain to me what this niggas just said?
But teams like the Bulls, Warriors, Lakers, Pistons rarely had injuries because nobody overplayed or played out of his roll..
But the Cavs stay injured especially when they go into games trying not to get injured..
To me if you play and play your game you will be good as soon as you try not to get injured and do all that monitoring minutes that's when injuries seem to pop up.
But the Cavs stay injured especially when they go into games trying not to get injured..
To me if you play and play your game you will be good as soon as you try not to get injured and do all that monitoring minutes that's when injuries seem to pop up.
it's all good.
Who, name one starter who was out for more than one game.. Yeah ZaZa missed a few but that was nothing.
lebron not injured tho that nigga has a hangover from yesterday
You're insane. Value is measured by a things worth or added worth. You measure their worth by assessing the impact of their presence and absence.
Miami went from contender to lottery scum with the absence of Bron.
Cleveland went from lottery scum to contender with the presence of Bron.
Cleveland is playing nearly 700 ball with Bron. Cleveland is playing 250 ball when he sits.
Its a fucking no brainer who the most single valuable asset in the league is.. SO much so i wont bore you or waste my time giving the laughable comps from other so called mvp candidates. Not even in the same stratosphere..
Its criminal Bron hasnt won a MVP since he went back to Cleveland... Not "debatable" but CRIMINAL.
yea nothing to you lol
starters and bench players have been injured all year long lol
Like i said, then he should have just won it the last 6 years if that's the criteria.
And give it to him this year too.
No complaints here we just not going to limit the scope.
Plus LeBron takes off games while he is playing. There has been at least five games where he refused to drive and attack the paint, instead deferring the ball to Irving and taking jump shots.. Most of them were in back to back games, but you can see he had no intentions to play hard..
So doing that I understand why he doesn't win MVP's every year..
im not against him winning it every year.
we just not going to say let whoever win it going forward and backwards just these past 2 he should have won.
ive never said a bad word about him on the court. never. even last year when people were crowning someone from my own team i said lebron is the best in the nba.
i just don't get that respect reciprocated back to me when it comes you know who.
there's niggas that said kyrie could win mvp of the league.
All teams get that, but the Cavs seem to have more big injuries affecting their main players..
And if they keep sitting James, I would not be surprise if Kyrie also goes down, because he does a whole lot of one on one isolation crap, that allows the defense to collapse hard on him, knowing he usually don't kick the ball out.
but that's not unique those players that get injured are injury prone they were like that before this team was assembled.
With out LeBron Kyrie is a great complementary player who does not make his teammates better, the problem with Irving is that he has two players Westbrook and Harden doing what he does a lot better..
But playing with LeBron Kyrie is as good as anybody, only because LeBron makes him better.
They were prone due to them doing too much on those teams also. Curry and Livingston were also injurey prone but like I said they don't play safe ball or rest their stars so they are not forced to over extend themselves..
A very odd post-game atmosphere in the Warriors locker room, a few guesses at why
OAKLAND — Draymond Green is one of the most interesting and talkative guys on earth, as you all know, and he was plenty chatty after tonight’s sloppy victory over Brooklyn.
Chatty, but just not about the game, his 1-for-10 shooting, or coach Steve Kerr limiting Green to only 23 minutes of action.
On all of those topics, standing in a quiet locker room that seemed far more tense than you would ever expect from a team that just qualified for the playoffs, Green had no comment.
He smiled, but said he didn’t want to talk about it tonight–by the way, I can never remember Green declining a chance to talk after a regular-season game, not ever.
And Kerr was almost as non-communicative at his post-game presser when asked why Green played so little in a game that competitive until midway through the fourth quarter.
“It just wasn’t his night,” Kerr said tersely.
And of course Kerr is rarely terse–though he also clearly was affected by having to tell Briante Weber that he’d been cut just a few seconds before Kerr walked into the press conference room.
–BANG’s Anthony Slater is reporting that the Warriors are expected to sign Lakers guard Jose Calderon once he is released by the Lakers.
–I don’t think this was an overly popular move in the Warriors’ locker room, but I can see the logic–team management probably envisions Calderon as a much safer option if they need a third point guard in some short-term playoff situation, especially due to Weber’s non-existent offensive game.–Calderon is a poor defensive player, but can make a shot, move the ball, and is a veteran who could fit into Kerr’s system for two or three important postseason minutes in a crisis.
–But also: Weber is well-liked by the Warriors players, and certainly brought a defensive energy that is always respected in that locker room. –Calderon is also known as a good teammate, so we shall see how this all works out.
This is not the normal way the Warriors go about their business, and yes, I believe it partly was about Kerr and the players feeling bad for Weber, who was still in the locker room when reporters were allowed in (he declined comment).
But there was a broader, stickier weirdness to the atmosphere tonight… just as the Warriors are about to set off on a long Eastern road trip.
Green’s limited role tonight was even odder because Kevin Durant was out with a hand injury, which meant that all of a sudden the Warriors were basically without half of their Big Four.
They still won, because Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson weren’t absent, but it was weird.
I’ve been in the Warriors’ locker room hundreds if not thousands of times, after horrible games and great games and middling games, and this was one of the more uncomfortable moods in there I’ve encountered.
The main guess is that there are some edgy feelings between Draymond and Kerr, possibly tied to Draymond’s listless play throughout the game and Kerr’s reaction to it.
If you want to take a deeper guess, maybe this had something to do with Kerr telling the team a few nights ago that they needed to hold the line on complaining about the referees–and Kerr included himself in this–and then Draymond got a technical foul that night for something he didn’t believe deserved the call.
And then he yelled a bit at Kerr after that.
Could this game have been some lingering issue between Kerr and Draymond over handling the referees or that Draymond felt singled out by Kerr’s speech? I would not rule it out.
This obviously can be changed and cleared up in a blink–Kerr and Draymond have had their issues in the past (most famously at halftime in that regular-season game in OKClast season) and have always figured it out rather quickly.
It’s part of the team dynamic–Kerr and Draymond are both fiery guys, by far the most volatile on this team, and when they bump into a little, things can get hot and stay hot for a while… and it also provides energy for the team when it happens.
No reason to think that it won’t be figured out this time, either.
But it was weird. And there are things to figure out.
Kerr was asked: Did you inform Draymond that it wasn’t his night during the game?
“No, just things weren’t going well, so we just went with a different rotation, different lineup,” Kerr said. “It just seemed like a night for that. McAdoo came in, gave us good energy. It’s no big deal.”
Do you think Green’s recent offensive struggles maybe have led to overall struggles for Draymond?
“I don’t think we’ve been moving the ball that well the last couple games,” Kerr said. “The Clipper game we had the great third quarter, but we did not move the ball particularly well.
“And I think we need to do a better job of that. We’ve got to get more five- or six-pass possessions early in the game to establish that ball movement and that rhythm and that helps everybody out.”
—Here’s Kerr on the Weber decision….
“We are actually going to let him go–just told him, just this second, and it was a very difficult thing to do, ’cause we really like him,” Kerr said.
“He’s a great, great kid and he can play in this league and he did a nice job for us. But we’re going to go in another direction. And that’s all I can say.”
So you’ll sign another point guard? “Yeah, it’ll be a point guard… We think we have something in place, but it’s not finalized. Got to wait ’til it’s official.”
OAKLAND — Draymond Green is one of the most interesting and talkative guys on earth, as you all know, and he was plenty chatty after tonight’s sloppy victory over Brooklyn.
Chatty, but just not about the game, his 1-for-10 shooting, or coach Steve Kerr limiting Green to only 23 minutes of action.
On all of those topics, standing in a quiet locker room that seemed far more tense than you would ever expect from a team that just qualified for the playoffs, Green had no comment.
He smiled, but said he didn’t want to talk about it tonight–by the way, I can never remember Green declining a chance to talk after a regular-season game, not ever.
And Kerr was almost as non-communicative at his post-game presser when asked why Green played so little in a game that competitive until midway through the fourth quarter.
“It just wasn’t his night,” Kerr said tersely.
And of course Kerr is rarely terse–though he also clearly was affected by having to tell Briante Weber that he’d been cut just a few seconds before Kerr walked into the press conference room.
–BANG’s Anthony Slater is reporting that the Warriors are expected to sign Lakers guard Jose Calderon once he is released by the Lakers.
–I don’t think this was an overly popular move in the Warriors’ locker room, but I can see the logic–team management probably envisions Calderon as a much safer option if they need a third point guard in some short-term playoff situation, especially due to Weber’s non-existent offensive game.–Calderon is a poor defensive player, but can make a shot, move the ball, and is a veteran who could fit into Kerr’s system for two or three important postseason minutes in a crisis.
–But also: Weber is well-liked by the Warriors players, and certainly brought a defensive energy that is always respected in that locker room. –Calderon is also known as a good teammate, so we shall see how this all works out.
This is not the normal way the Warriors go about their business, and yes, I believe it partly was about Kerr and the players feeling bad for Weber, who was still in the locker room when reporters were allowed in (he declined comment).
But there was a broader, stickier weirdness to the atmosphere tonight… just as the Warriors are about to set off on a long Eastern road trip.
Green’s limited role tonight was even odder because Kevin Durant was out with a hand injury, which meant that all of a sudden the Warriors were basically without half of their Big Four.
They still won, because Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson weren’t absent, but it was weird.
I’ve been in the Warriors’ locker room hundreds if not thousands of times, after horrible games and great games and middling games, and this was one of the more uncomfortable moods in there I’ve encountered.
The main guess is that there are some edgy feelings between Draymond and Kerr, possibly tied to Draymond’s listless play throughout the game and Kerr’s reaction to it.
If you want to take a deeper guess, maybe this had something to do with Kerr telling the team a few nights ago that they needed to hold the line on complaining about the referees–and Kerr included himself in this–and then Draymond got a technical foul that night for something he didn’t believe deserved the call.
And then he yelled a bit at Kerr after that.
Could this game have been some lingering issue between Kerr and Draymond over handling the referees or that Draymond felt singled out by Kerr’s speech? I would not rule it out.
This obviously can be changed and cleared up in a blink–Kerr and Draymond have had their issues in the past (most famously at halftime in that regular-season game in OKClast season) and have always figured it out rather quickly.
It’s part of the team dynamic–Kerr and Draymond are both fiery guys, by far the most volatile on this team, and when they bump into a little, things can get hot and stay hot for a while… and it also provides energy for the team when it happens.
No reason to think that it won’t be figured out this time, either.
But it was weird. And there are things to figure out.
Kerr was asked: Did you inform Draymond that it wasn’t his night during the game?
“No, just things weren’t going well, so we just went with a different rotation, different lineup,” Kerr said. “It just seemed like a night for that. McAdoo came in, gave us good energy. It’s no big deal.”
Do you think Green’s recent offensive struggles maybe have led to overall struggles for Draymond?
“I don’t think we’ve been moving the ball that well the last couple games,” Kerr said. “The Clipper game we had the great third quarter, but we did not move the ball particularly well.
“And I think we need to do a better job of that. We’ve got to get more five- or six-pass possessions early in the game to establish that ball movement and that rhythm and that helps everybody out.”
—Here’s Kerr on the Weber decision….
“We are actually going to let him go–just told him, just this second, and it was a very difficult thing to do, ’cause we really like him,” Kerr said.
“He’s a great, great kid and he can play in this league and he did a nice job for us. But we’re going to go in another direction. And that’s all I can say.”
So you’ll sign another point guard? “Yeah, it’ll be a point guard… We think we have something in place, but it’s not finalized. Got to wait ’til it’s official.”
Dumbest shit I ever heard and he is dead serious which is sad
Strangely enough the Warriors have played their best basketball with Draymond not on th floor.
When KD moves to the 4 and they go with
PG Curry
SG Klay
SF Iggy
PF KD
C McGee
There offense is damn near unstoppable. Green needs to chill for real. I wish his teammates would stop giving him passes. You don't have to be emotional to play hard
He's really getting worse man... I seriously think he has a mental condition and needs help... If you look at his posts, they have two different styles, and certain ones he misspells the same words, etc. which shows a split personality dynamic...
I really see this retarded fool sitting somewhere in a cheap ass suit, with a fake microphone in his had and Dragon on his laptop, literally fake commentating the bullshit posts we read... Mental handicap is a motherfucker i guess.
You sound a little road rage-ish with this one bruh
He's really getting worse man... I seriously think he has a mental condition and needs help... If you look at his posts, they have two different styles, and certain ones he misspells the same words, etc. which shows a split personality dynamic...
I really see this retarded fool sitting somewhere in a cheap ass suit, with a fake microphone in his had and Dragon on his laptop, literally fake commentating the bullshit posts we read... Mental handicap is a motherfucker i guess.
It is true tho. They are a scoring machine when he is not on the floor.You sound a little road rage-ish with this one bruh
You are debating and not listening
I'm not doing anything but posting statistics... You are debating your opinion... I posted factual statistics... Not even saying you are wrong in your opinion... Just need a little more than your opinion to consider your opinion factual...
FYI, doing a lot of talking/debating without factual statistics to back it up is what is known in BGOL circles as - RoadRaging---
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