Music Debate: Other than Redman, which rapper had 3 classic in a row starting out?

[Day_Carver]

I fuck with so many young broads I have a closet full of skinny jeans that came as gifts...I Cant wear that though

Its a classic in this era. Cant stop ocean tides, the moon does what it wants. I have been bamboozled by young stank

Get you a hot lil 24 year old & turn on Drake. And take a ride. Drake albums is like meshing Angela Winbush & Tribe Called Quest. It aint tradtional flame throwing hip hop. More like Kanye with more singing. Drake could have never got off if it wasnt for College Drop out.

Good company(female) & some sugar cookies(dozier) The nigga Drake is dope.





Opionions are like...I dont agree the Redman first 3 was classic. 1 most def & the 3rd joint muddy. I also think Predator by Cube just makes the cut because of all the social commentary.

Kanye first 3 joints All classics. Havent read back through the thread to see if someone mentioned him.

Drakes album's aren't classic in any era

 

[playahaitian]

It bothers me when revisionists try to label "It was written" as a classic smh.

But to the question, I too, heard this episode of Evening Jones, and I wonder if artists who started out in a group can be considered.

If so, Cubes first album would be Straight Outta Compton, and he'd definitely be on the list, as would Dre.

I've never heard an entire Too Short album, that's interesting that people say he belongs on this list.

Graduation was not a classic, in my opinion.

Kendrick might be the next to joint the list, though.

good points

I think we can include everyone

but I don;t think you can mix them up

so Cube JUST loses it by a hair.

and we disagree cause I think Graduation is classic status, but I understand that is a shaky one to some.

Yo Too Short?

yeah those albums were classic...but like MANY? there is a lot of context too.

I don't know about K. Dot

his last one was SO out there musically and sonically to call it a classic is tough for me

but it is a GREAT IMPORTANT and PIVOTAL record.

 

[Mr. Bizkits]

Outkast

Outkast gave 5 classic albums

 

[jack walsh13]

Now this tricky...I want to say YES on Public Enemy

Yo! Bum Rush the Show

It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

Fear of a Black Planet

Not sure about fear of a Black Planet though.

 

[playahaitian]

Not sure about fear of a Black Planet though.

I know its tricky...

 

[ak_rep]

Ice Cube for sure. "Classic" is such a loose label though. KRS One. Scarface. Ghostface.

 

[Teknique310]

Drakes album's aren't classic in any era

Opinions..

Kendrick might be the next to joint the list, though.

If you slide Section 80 in as a major release. He has dropped 3 classics already. Curious to see where he goes on #3 in the current political environment

 

[Makaveli]

I'd say DMX.......and fuck you if you think otherwise

 

[Complex]

I didn't care for Pimp A Butterfly

 

[cnc]

Nas had 3 in a row until I Am... was bootlegged, which was a double album. I remember hearing the original in '98.

I wish Nas would re-release the album as a Special Edition or at least put out the original tracklist so his fans could hear how it was intended to be heard.

The bootleg was AMAZING.

 

[Maleman]

Many rappers came close... IMO
I'll go with Strictly Business (Lol), Unfinished Business, and Business As Usual.
But, there are others like Road To The Riches, Wanted: Dead or Alive, and Live & Let Die.
I also wanna include Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, ATLiens, and Aquemini.
But.. I think the artist most overlooked was Mr. Scarface is Back, The World Is Yours, and The Diary.
Btw. I loved Dare Is A Dark side. But I don't think it was on the level of Muddy Waters and Whut? Thee Album.

 

[playahaitian]

Ice Cube for sure. "Classic" is such a loose label though. KRS One. Scarface. Ghostface.

fair but

its like Hall of famer...

we KNOW when you see/hear one.

that is why I think Redman is so special..

East West and everywhere in between...

hip hop fans agree.

that's powerful.

same for Outkast EPMD Tribe and Gangstarrr.

but to even be CONSIDERED for this list you had to DEBUT with a CLASSIC album

and then NOT get the sophomore jinx...

that is a VERY small list.

 

[playahaitian]

Many rappers came close... IMO
I'll go with Strictly Business (Lol), Unfinished Business, and Business As Usual.
But, there are others like Road To The Riches, Wanted: Dead or Alive, and Live & Let Die.
I also wanna include Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, ATLiens, and Aquemini.
But.. I think the artist most overlooked was Mr. Scarface is Back, The World Is Yours, and The Diary.
Btw. I loved Dare Is A Dark side. But I don't think it was on the level of Muddy Waters and Whut? Thee Album.

remember...

if we talking SOLO artist?

the DEBUT has to be a CLASSIC!!!



wait a minute

Dare Iz a Darkside

aint a classic fam?

I may not be able to talk to you after this one...

you know the Rockfella is on there right?

Cosmic Slop? Green Island (one the GREATEST rap performances ever)?

http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?threads/music-class-redman-green-island.781658/

Basically? Sooperman Lover? Can't Wait? A Million and 1 Buddah Spots?

And almost NO FEATURES?

 

[cnc]

-Common (both as Common Sense and Common)
-DJ Quik
-The Alkholiks

 

[playahaitian]

-Common (both as Common Sense and Common)
-DJ Quik
-The Alkholiks

this is NOT a bad list

i am a fan but I gotta listen to the 3rd Liks album again.

 

[Maleman]

remember...

if we talking SOLO artist?

the DEBUT has to be a CLASSIC!!!



wait a minute

Dare Iz a Darkside

aint a classic fam?

I may not be able to talk to you after this one...

you know the Rockfella is on there right?

Cosmic Slop? Green Island (one the GREATEST rap performances ever)?

http://www.bgol.us/forum/index.php?threads/music-class-redman-green-island.781658/

Basically? Sooperman Lover? Can't Wait? A Million and 1 Buddah Spots?

And almost NO FEATURES?

Haha.. I feel u. AND
I love that album. 4got Can't Wait was on there. My bad.. I thought that was on Muddy Waters. U might be right fam.

 

[B-Witty]

First of all the question stated which RAPPER.... so why the fuck u ignent mofos dont pay attention to rules ass cats on here talking bout GROUPS? A rapper is singular not plural...... So w/ dat said Im gonna say someone who I feel is the best nomination by far so far.............

Cormega

The Testament- MOst never heard it becuz it got shelved by DefJam due to copywright issues and contract disputes but its his 1st album and damn did he DELIVER............
The Realness -- No one will ever question z fact dat this is not a classic certified album
The True Meaning -- Listen to it b4 u say ANYTHING to me............

Seriously there is no artist on here listed dat has a better 1st Three......

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Avi

 

[trick20]

i know its trapmusic but T.I. was solid out the gate. Def outkast

 

[Madrox]

Heltah Skeltah:

Nocturnal
Magnum Force
D.I.R.T.

 

[Madrox]

i am a fan but I gotta listen to the 3rd Liks album again.

1 AA Meeting Intro 1:36
2 Likwidation
3 Captain Hook
4 Nas Skit
5 Tore Down Featuring – Lootpack
6 Off The Wall Featuring – Keith Murray
7 Killin' It Featuring – Xzibit
8 LL Cool J Skit
9 Feel The Real
10 Hip Hop Drunkies Featuring – Ol' Dirty Bastard
11 Aww Sh*t!
12 J-Ro Late Skit 0:25
13 Keep It Pourin'
14 Likwit Ridas Featuring – The Whoridas
15 Funny Style Featuring – King Tee
16 Commercial Skit 0:48
17 All Night
18 DeBarge Skit 0:48
19 Pass Out
20 20th Caller Skit 0:33
21 Rockin' With The Best Featuring – Phil Da Agony
22 Contents Unda Pressure

 

[playahaitian]

1 AA Meeting Intro 1:36
2 Likwidation
3 Captain Hook
4 Nas Skit
5 Tore Down Featuring – Lootpack
6 Off The Wall Featuring – Keith Murray
7 Killin' It Featuring – Xzibit
8 LL Cool J Skit
9 Feel The Real
10 Hip Hop Drunkies Featuring – Ol' Dirty Bastard
11 Aww Sh*t!
12 J-Ro Late Skit 0:25
13 Keep It Pourin'
14 Likwit Ridas Featuring – The Whoridas
15 Funny Style Featuring – King Tee
16 Commercial Skit 0:48
17 All Night
18 DeBarge Skit 0:48
19 Pass Out
20 20th Caller Skit 0:33
21 Rockin' With The Best Featuring – Phil Da Agony
22 Contents Unda Pressure

I think you making a compelling arguement.

 

[playahaitian]

.....

 

[cnc]

Spice 1

-Spice 1
-187 He Wrote
-Amerikkka's Nightmare

Now the first two are undoubtedly classics in terms of str8 G, murder records. I throwing Amerikkka's Nightmare on there mainly because it had two epic 90's collabos; 'Jealous Got Me Strapped'w/ 2Pac and 'Hard To Kill'. Rest of the album was damn solid and was Spice's first real "mainstream" album IMO.

 

[BKF]

how I forget them!

Juvenile Hell??
The Infamous
Hell on Earth

I don't know about that.

 

[durham]

Man yall grading on a personal curve with some of these recommendations Like Mobb Deep (that 1st kiddie album was terrible).

Drake has great songs, has made a ton of cash, but he does not have a classic album that will hold up against any era imo.

Nas " I Am" almost killed his career and any credibility of being a real emcee. Damn yall really trying to rewrite history on that one.

I can't believe that I am reading that some folks dont think Redman Dare is a Darkside is a fucking masterpiece. Man lyrically that album is a fucking MONSTER. Maybe its generational or something. I thought is was better than Muddy Waters....but that album basically kept the doors open at Def Jam...and its a major fan favorite

Alkaholiks were one of my favorite groups, 2nd album was a masterpiece, third album fell way off imo, they got lazy and a tad too pop

but fuck it, since we are being homers

Eric B and Rakim

• Paid in Full (1987)
• Follow the Leader (1988)
• Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em (1990)--iffy--but I'm sliding it in there, In the Ghetto and Mahogany are all time greats of any era in my book, and shit when Let the Rhythm hit the first time...shiiiit.

 

[Art Vandelay]

You can't say

don't ya'll DARE put eminem on here.

and then say

Jeezy?

 

[Z MONSTER]

walking with a panther?

Let me think on that...

LL fans were like he's going to set Ice T, Hammer, and Kool Moe Dee straight when Walking with a Panther drop. Then they were like

 

[meilmarc]

Outkast: Southernplaya, ATLIENS, Aquemini.

Big K.R.I.T. : Krit Was Here, Return of 4eva, 4eva N A Day.

 

[playahaitian]

I don't know about that.

I just listened to juvenile hell...

Yup they ain't on the list.

 

[playahaitian]

Outkast: Southernplaya, ATLIENS, Aquemini.

Big K.R.I.T. : Krit Was Here, Return of 4eva, 4eva N A Day.

Outkast I made SURE to mention in the original post, if we adding groups.

But Krit is close...but for me not CLASSIC.

 

[playahaitian]

Man yall grading on a personal curve with some of these recommendations Like Mobb Deep (that 1st kiddie album was terrible).

Drake has great songs, has made a ton of cash, but he does not have a classic album that will hold up against any era imo.

Nas " I Am" almost killed his career and any credibility of being a real emcee. Damn yall really trying to rewrite history on that one.

I can't believe that I am reading that some folks dont think Redman Dare is a Darkside is a fucking masterpiece. Man lyrically that album is a fucking MONSTER. Maybe its generational or something. I thought is was better than Muddy Waters....but that album basically kept the doors open at Def Jam...and its a major fan favorite

Alkaholiks were one of my favorite groups, 2nd album was a masterpiece, third album fell way off imo, they got lazy and a tad too pop

but fuck it, since we are being homers

Eric B and Rakim

• Paid in Full (1987)
• Follow the Leader (1988)
• Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em (1990)--iffy--but I'm sliding it in there, In the Ghetto and Mahogany are all time greats of any era in my book, and shit when Let the Rhythm hit the first time...shiiiit.

U r correct on the liks.

That 3rd album ain't no classic.

 

[cli-terminator]

ATCQ
Outkast
Little Brother (a lot of y'all sleeping on them)

 

[meilmarc]

Outkast I made SURE to mention in the original post, if we adding groups.

But Krit is close...but for me not CLASSIC.

Cause you a New Yorker

 

[dHustla]

I read the first page..... and I see I need to come up outta this thread before I get heated & lose some e-friends