She got hit "SO HARD" by a women that she wanted to kill herself, so why would I take anything that comes out of her mouth as being real?
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I get what you are saying, but we're going to have to disagree...You don't understand. I'm coming from the angle of a guy that has SEEN female MMA fighters spar with men. I'm not guessing here. Rousey has trained at our school.I wasnt there that week but heard she rolled with quite a few guys that are way bigger than lil ass mayweather. In this Holm fight,look at her stance.Compare it to the Boxing stance. Boxers have alot more weight on their front foot and they aren't facing their opponent like Holm is. Holms stance is much more open which gives her that lateral movement to avoid Rhonda's clinch. Its clear as day to someone who trains. Honestly this whole argument is comparable to a dude that played HS football and watches football every week and arguing with women who swear the Niners are the best team in Football because they like their uniforms. Holms presented a totally different challenge than Mayweather would.
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If she even thinks about throwing a punch
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Every time she speaks she sounds more fraudulent.She got hit "SO HARD" by a women that she wanted to kill herself, so why would I take anything that comes out of her mouth as being real?
Even after her loss I stand by my prediction. Personally, I hate the comparison because its just a way to drop Mayweather down a notch.I'd rather they compare her to a white boxer. That said, in a Boxing match,Rousey wouldn't last 1 min.In a MMA match Rousey is a clear favorite.I totally understand why many of you would think different,but my years of experience in a really good MMA school in which Rousey has visited and trained in the past gives me much more insight. We've had professional boxer dabble in MMA and its a TOTALLY different sport.
Holm has had 10 MMA fights spanned over 6 years in one of the top MMA schools in the world.Her takedown defense was the key and it was highly technical.Mayweather is not going to get that takedown defense skill in months.Additionally, Mayweather is a boxer.He is dangerous in one range and that is the same range as the clinching range. Holm was dangerous with kicks and knees which adds a whole new dimension of attacks. I know you guys don't see what I see but understand that my opinion is not from the viewpoint of some fan.I actually compete in Grappling at one of the top MMA gyms in the US. I've seen professional boxers come and spar MMA. They get taken down by whitebelts. It takes alot of skill to avoid takedowns,avoid the clinch,and change your boxing stance to not get taken down.Ronda Rousey is not going to try and stand with that dude. She is going to take him down and armbar him very easily.
If interested, here is a really good video explaining how technical Holm's takedown defense was.It took 6 years of Holm training at a top MMA gym and having 9 fights to get this skill.Mayweather is just not going to get this skill in a few months just because he is a talented boxer.
You don't understand. I'm coming from the angle of a guy that has SEEN female MMA fighters spar with men. I'm not guessing here. Rousey has trained at our school.I wasnt there that week but heard she rolled with quite a few guys that are way bigger than lil ass mayweather. In this Holm fight,look at her stance.Compare it to the Boxing stance. Boxers have alot more weight on their front foot and they aren't facing their opponent like Holm is. Holms stance is much more open which gives her that lateral movement to avoid Rhonda's clinch. Its clear as day to someone who trains. Honestly this whole argument is comparable to a dude that played HS football and watches football every week and arguing with women who swear the Niners are the best team in Football because they like their uniforms. Holms presented a totally different challenge than Mayweather would.
I get what you are saying, but we're going to have to disagree...
In Mayweather, we are talking about a defensive minded fighter who is the best I've ever seen at controlling his opponent's distance and angle... that coupled with his speed-
look imo- Rousey doesn't currently have the skillset to chase or trap him, cause he would never square up with her and doesn't need to sit on any of his punches-
think of a master matador vs a bull
Now Floyd vs a male MMA star is a tougher analysis.
But anyone thinking Rousey has a chance is delusional.
Is the MMA star a trained boxer as well? If it's MMA rules then Floyd would get murdered, but if it's boxing then it's advantage Mayweather.Now Floyd vs a male MMA star is a tougher analysis.
But anyone thinking Rousey has a chance is delusional.
Agreed. Completely different argument.
But like you said, against a much smaller, weaker, and less experienced female opponent like Rousey, Floyd would permanently damage her if he wanted.
he actually does fight. he fights well, is pretty smart and is VERY sneaky...which is why it utterly befuddles me that he's making these ridiculous statements.Man sparring is not fighting...you dont fight
THIS!!!I just don't see how she could avoid getting hit by the stronger/quicker Floyd, when she got tagged like a heavy bag by Holly, with legendary results. She admits that holly's punch completely took her out of the fight early on, and Holly got nothing on Floyd in terms of power/hands.
bruh, Holms turned that MMA fight into a str8 boxing match, until she kicked the living dog shit out of Rousey's jaw. she threw Rousey off of her or evaded every time she tried to grapple. why would it be any different if Mayweather was in there with her?
Is the MMA star a trained boxer as well? If it's MMA rules then Floyd would get murdered, but if it's boxing then it's advantage Mayweather.
Holm has had 10 MMA fights spanned over 6 years in one of the top MMA schools in the world.Her takedown defense was the key and it was highly technical.Mayweather is not going to get that takedown defense skill in months.Additionally, Mayweather is a boxer.He is dangerous in one range and that is the same range as the clinching range. Holm was dangerous with kicks and knees which adds a whole new dimension of attacks.
You mentioned how her takedown defense was key... and I know you saw the fight, but remembering what you said, take a look at the actual fight here. The 3:54 mark is like 26 seconds into the first round. No takedowns occurred yet, no attempted takedowns even. At this point it was all movement, hands, and what looked like a couple low kicks. At 26 into the first round, Ronda got clocked with a left to the jaw. A left to the jaw from a 130lbs woman. So if she was fighting Floyd... a 150lbs MAN... a 150lbs man, who has much much more power than a 130lbs woman, and who is much much faster, and a better boxer by a lot... how do you think that would have gone for Ronda? Remember, this happened before any takedowns. By the 4:22 mark, she had been hit at least twice more in the face and you can see how her nose area is all red. She knew she was in trouble already... from getting punched by a woman! Still no takedowns.
If Ronda couldn't avoid Holly's hands, then how is she gonna avoid Floyd's hands while she tries to get in close enough for that easy arm bar? Would she be able to keep her head (assuming she could stay conscious) after the first headshot? Could she stand up after a punch to that gut? Is anybody thinking that Floyd would be so overwhelmed by her MMA skills that he wouldn't be able to land a few shots? What have we seen from Ronda to make anyone believe that she could take a punch from a male boxer?
I'm not putting down MMA... for me it's about male/female and the possibility of a female (who we now know doesn't have a great jaw, and no great footwork) staying up after inevitably taking a couple head or body shots from a male who outweighs her by 20 pounds, and is used to hitting other guys and getting hit by other guys.
You can't be serious. If slow punching Holm was feeding Rousey lefts & rights, what do you think Floyd would do to her? And if he hits her, how is she going to take him down?? Just look @ the highlights from the Rousey - Holm fight to see what Holm's BOXING SKILLS did to Rousey's grappling skills.
why she had to specify "monkey style" tho? racist bitch
What's Monkey Style? Is that the one where you trap Your Opponent's foot in your mouth? Or is it the Art of Fighting without winning. Is that the style she used on Holm?
So we are supposed to believe that ALL of the things Rousey COULDN'T do against Holm (like slip/block punches!) she would somehow be able to do against one of the greatest boxers EVER???
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What's Monkey Style? Is that the one where you trap Your Opponent's foot in your mouth? Or is it the Art of Fighting without winning. Is that the style she used on Holm?
he actually does fight. he fights well, is pretty smart and is VERY sneaky...which is why it utterly befuddles me that he's making these ridiculous statements.
right...and i just dont get it.my bad then, i stand corrected...however, he has poor judgement when speaking on this matter.