Xbox One Console Reviews

I know gamestop and bestbuy are offering 125-150. Maybe I will wait for the 299 one at the end of the month. I saw a couple on amazon for around 200-250. I thought about getting a elite system from Costco for 330.

shit I love the grip and weight of the elite controller...supposedly the elite console is faster too
 
Cool...I love my lunar white. I usually don't like special edition controller but this one is the bomb.

ya the lunar white has a grip similar to the elite controller...has a nice looking color scheme too
 
i am thinking about trading my old one (day one) for a new one....but everyone is saying dont...I do not own a 4k tv and i am not planning on buying one anytime soon. I like the new design. Should i get a newer xbox or get the one slim?
I sold my Day One edition for $175 on ebay, and bout the One S from Newegg for $399, I received it in the mail the next day. I bought it for the extra hard drive space, and processing power.
 
I sold my Day One edition for $175 on ebay, and bout the One S from Newegg for $399, I received it in the mail the next day. I bought it for the extra hard drive space, and processing power.
Can you tell the difference in speed?
 
hey fam dont let people tell you theres no a difference between the normal xbox one and the xbox one s.theres a difference in the way the games play an the controller is more responsive.even if you have it hooked up to a regular good flat screen you will see a bit difference in the way the games looks. but when its hooked up to a 4k an you set it to 4 k i mean i see a big difference.colors look much better just the game looks better lol hard to explain it.i love the new controller.it does feel kinda cheap by the weight but its not.i can walk around my whole house now talking in a party with out it cutting off due to range.plus if you want to hook your kinect to it you have to call xbox to get you adapter free,if you already have a kinect registered.i have mines coming in about 3 more days.
 
hey fam dont let people tell you theres no a difference between the normal xbox one and the xbox one s.theres a difference in the way the games play an the controller is more responsive.even if you have it hooked up to a regular good flat screen you will see a bit difference in the way the games looks. but when its hooked up to a 4k an you set it to 4 k i mean i see a big difference.colors look much better just the game looks better lol hard to explain it.i love the new controller.it does feel kinda cheap by the weight but its not.i can walk around my whole house now talking in a party with out it cutting off due to range.plus if you want to hook your kinect to it you have to call xbox to get you adapter free,if you already have a kinect registered.i have mines coming in about 3 more days.

well shit you got me ready to trade in my shit...can't give up my elite controller tho...and I need that "S" to come in all black
 
im serious put that on craigslist an knock the xbox one s you wont regret it.there still working stuff out on it such as watching movies an getting pics off your computer but the over all of the system was well worth the $400.hell i have more the 2tb of games an i still have a 500gb hard drive full with games also.
 
Damn.....He talked into it....I trade my system and power brick to best buy for 125....( make sure you do not take your controller) I traded that for 27 at gamestop. I also trade in a few games and I got the system for 200. I can use the extra space...
 
Xbox One S: 4K, HDR and what you need to know

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The highly anticipated, newly designed Xbox One S starts hitting shelves today. Since Xbox One S features 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray, 4K video streaming and High Dynamic Range (HDR) for games and video, we wanted to ensure those who are about to unbox their new console know all the ins-and-outs when it comes to 4K, HDR and what you need to do in order to enable your 4K TV.

Getting Started: Three Things You’ll Need to Experience 4K
Before you can experience 4K and HDR games and video, you’ll need to make sure you’re set up properly and have the right equipment.

1. You’ll need a 4K capable device
Good news, the Xbox One S is 4K Ultra HD capable

2. You’ll need a 4K TV
To check if you have a 4K TV, you can consult the packaging or manual for your TV. Different manufacturers have different names, but here are somethings to look for:

  • Commonly used names for 4K: 4K, 4K Ultra HD, UHD, UHD 4K, SUHD TV, Ultra HD, Ultra UDTV, 2160p
  • Listed resolutions or modes: 3840 x 2160 at 24 Hz, 50 Hz, or 60 Hz
  • Commonly used names for HDR10: HDR Premium, High Dynamic Range, HDR, UHD Color, Ultra HD Premium, Ultra HD deep color
To check your TV’s 4K and HDR capabilities, with your Xbox One S connected and on, double-tap the Xbox button on the controller to open the guide. Choose Settings > All settings > Display & sound, then choose Advanced video settings > 4K TV details.

If your system should support 4K and HDR but it isn’t working (for example, you can’t select the 4K UHD resolution, 4K features aren’t supported in the 4K TV details screen, 4K content won’t play, or you’re seeing video quality problems), click here for some help.

If you are using a monitor, you’ll also need to check if it is compatible.

3. You’ll need 4K content
Pop in your favorite 4K UHD Blu-ray disc or open the Netflix app. As a reminder, if you want to check out programs in 4K on Netflix, make sure you have a subscription plan through Netflix that supports streaming in Ultra HD. More info can be found here.

We also wanted to provide information on 4K, HDR and resources for trouble shooting – all in one spot:

What is 4K?
A simple question, but not everyone knows the answer. 4K is a new standard for consumer televisions. The industry term is 4K UHD but you may also see this referred to by various manufacturers as 4K Ultra HD or 4K Ultra High Definition. 4K UHD packs in four times the pixels (3840×2160) of a 1080p HDTV (1920 x 1080). This makes for a sharper, more detailed picture. To experience 4K, you must have three things: a 4K TV, a device that can play 4K content (like Xbox One S), and 4K content (like a new UHD Blu-ray or access to a streaming service that supports 4K, like Netflix).

4K upscaling
In addition to supporting 4K video content when used in conjunction with a 4K TV, Xbox One S will also upscale non-4K content to display at 4K when paired with a 4K TV. When you set your console resolution to 4K UHD, everything on the console — Home, games, and apps—will display at 4K. 4K content is displayed in its native 4K resolution, and other content (like 1080p content) is upscaled to 4K.

To set your resolution and upscale everything to 4K, double-tap the Xbox button to open the guide, go to Settings > All settings, then choose Display & sound > Video output. For TV resolution, select 4K UHD.

What’s HDR?
HDR is an acronym for High Dynamic Range. With HDR color support on your Xbox One S, your TV can display deeper colors and richer contrast, meaning the picture will appear more vibrant and realistic than on a regular HDTV.

To display HDR, you must have an HDR capable TV, and HDR content. Content that’s recorded for regular TV and non-HDR games won’t appear different—to see true HDR, look for HDR Ultra HD Blu-ray discs, HDR content in video streaming apps, and HDR games.

There are two HDR formats that your TV manufacturer can choose to support: HDR10 and Dolby Vision. Your TV must support HDR10 to display HDR content from your Xbox One S. See Troubleshooting 4K and HDR on Xbox One S for more info.

Turning on HDR
If your 4K TV is set up correctly, it should automatically play HDR content—you don’t have to change anything on your Xbox One S.

Check your TV’s settings menu to make sure HDR is turned on. We have seen that some TVs come with HDR-off by default. Your TV must also support the HDR10 media profile to display HDR with Xbox One S.

If you have changed the video settings on your Xbox One S and want to double check that HDR is enabled, double-tap the Xbox button to open the guide, go to Settings > All settings, choose Display & sound > Video output, then choose Advanced video settings. Both the Allow 4K and the Allow HDR settings should be checked if you want HDR on.

Connecting your Xbox One S to a 4K TV
If you have upgraded from an HDTV to 4K UHD TV, you may need to upgrade your cable as well. Getting all those 4K UHD pixels from your Xbox One S to your TV requires use of a High Speed HDMI cable. Xbox One consoles have all shipped with a High Speed HDMI cable, including Xbox One S.

If you are using a device to pass-through the HDMI signal, such as an AVR or a device that extends the length of the HDMI connection, that device must also be capable of supporting 4K UHD and HDCP2.2. If you are experiencing problems, make sure you are not using an older, Standard HDMI cable, and eliminate any additional devices between the Xbox One S and the television.

For best results, use the cable that is included with your Xbox One S and connect your Xbox One S directly to your 4K UHD TV.

Calibrating Your Television
Once your Xbox One S is setup and ready to go, you may want to fine-tune your TV to get the best possible picture. The Xbox One S includes a very simple HDTV calibration walk-through, which can help optimize your brightness, contrast, and color to get the best possible picture for your Games and Movies. To access this feature, go to Settings > Display & sound > Video output > Calibrate HDTV. Here you can walk through a few simple steps to improve your visual experience.

Game Mode
Modern televisions do a lot of work to process incoming video signals. Sometimes the television’s onboard processing effects can introduce latency, often called display lag, between what is going into the TV and what the player sees on screen. For watching movies and videos, these few milliseconds of latency are not noticeable. However, for fast-paced gaming this lag can introduce a very small delay between when you press a button and when the character reacts on screen. Many modern TV’s implement a setting called “Game Mode” which reduces the amount of processing the TV does, thereby reducing the latency between the game and the screen. For gamers looking to maximize the responsiveness when playing competitively, we suggest trying your TV in “Game Mode” to see if that improves your experience.

What if I don’t have a 4K TV?
Xbox One S automatically scales down any 4K and HDR content to the resolution your TV supports.

Still having problems?
If you’ve done everything right but 4K doesn’t work or you don’t see these settings, see Troubleshooting 4K and HDR on Xbox One S.

To learn what your TV can do, see Checking your TV’s 4K and HDR capabilities on Xbox One S.

Note: You must have an Xbox One S console and a 4K TV with HDR10 support to display 4K and HDR content. If you’re not sure, see Troubleshooting 4K and HDR on Xbox One S to learn how to check your console and TV.


Read more at http://news.xbox.com/2016/08/02/xbox-one-s-4k-hdr/#ScCjv8MFR94Jpifo.99
 
Is there a visible difference in the games or a difference in load times? I'm searching the net for a side by side comparison.
 
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Got the S this past Tuesday ( put the black Elite Xbox one in the bedroom) it is better- smaller, lightweight, process lil faster, 2 TB the games have more color "pop" and 4K is on point( I have Samsung 55" KS9000) if you have a 4K no brainer. If you don't have a 4K tv and don't invest into one till next year keep your Black Xbox one and wait till Scorpio comes out
 
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Is there a visible difference in the games or a difference in load times? I'm searching the net for a side by side comparison.
Yes and yes ( load times depending on the game/ but if you don't have 4K tv your not going to see the difference
 
For us that have a 4K tv it's a no brainer. Samsung Bs-8500 is a stand alone 4K but it was $400.00 now they dropped the price to $319.00 due to the S. But with the S you get 4K and whole new 2TB upscale gaming system.
 
For us that have a 4K tv it's a no brainer. Samsung Bs-8500 is a stand alone 4K but it was $400.00 now they dropped the price to $319.00 due to the S. But with the S you get 4K and whole new 2TB upscale gaming system.

I'm going to get a new TV when I move, so I might as well make it a 4K.
 
Digital Foundry: the best 4K TVs for HDR gaming
Looking to future-proof yourself with your next TV purchase? We've got you covered.​


The Xbox One S brings the HDR experience to gaming, in addition to supporting the latest 4K video formats and standards - and where it leads, others will follow. Expect PlayStation Neo to embrace the same technology, and of course, next year's Xbox Project Scorpio is a given. Meanwhile, Nvidia has already demonstrated HDR-compatible upgrades for PC gaming. Some of the demos we've seen look pretty impressive, but in order to take advantage of this new format, most users will doubtless require a brand new display that has the technology to handle both UHD resolution and high dynamic range.

In fully supporting the new UHD formats, there are several key factors that need to be considered. Ideally a display should conform to UHD Premium standards (full details in the sidebar) in order to provide the most accurate HDR presentation. This essentially lays down the minimum requirements for colour reproduction and contrast performance for both LCDs and OLED UHD screens, so HDR material is displayed as close to as intended as possible. And of course, a low level of input lag is an absolute must to ensure that videogames feel responsive to play.

Now, achieving all these standards is impossible at lower price points - and even some higher-end models struggle to get perfect performance, so a few compromises are inevitable when choosing your next display purchase. For example, colour, contrast and dynamic range vary between models and panel types. OLED display technology is the current king of the hill here, but the current price premiums can be crippling. However, even accepting that some compromises may need to made, a low level of input lag remains essential when gaming, and finding a display that keeps latency to a minimum while supporting HDR can be a minefield.

On first impressions, the Samsung KS7000 shapes up nicely: all the key UHD specs are adhered to, a VA panel delivers deep black levels, while game mode lowers input lag to just 21ms - all for a respectable £1300 for a 49-inch screen. However, the caveat here is that HDR content can only be displayed using movie mode, which results in a whopping 112ms of lag - so while the KS7000 attracts excellent reviews for its quality, and is a great buy for 4K gameplay, it falls out of contention if you're looking for UHD gameplay with HDR enabled.

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This is something that isn't made clear on most AV review sites, making an informed purchase decision for HDR gaming something of a crapshoot. Right now, the best bet is to find a display with low input lag in cinema/movie mode, which at least guarantees that HDR content won't be spoiled by an unexpected increase in controller response if game mode is rendered unavailable.

So just what are the best 4K HDR screens for gaming? To prepare ourselves for the new wave of high dynamic range console and PC gaming, we decided to put our money where our mouth is. We would assess a range of potentially viable screens, and at the end of it, we would be buying the screen that ultimately offers the best balance of performance, features and low latency. To that end, our local Sevenoaks Sound & Vision allowed us within their showroom to road-test every single UHD screen they had available, where we would specifically measure latency with a Leo Bodnar lag tester.

We came back with some interesting results, along with a shortlist of display's suitable for gaming for both HDR and regular SDR content. It's by no means a complete list, but good recommendations can be made for both entry-level and higher-end price points.

Panasonic DX750: The best mid-range HDR screen for gaming
With regards to overall price/performance ratio, the Panasonic DX750 immediately stood out during our testing, and it's the display we ultimately chose for HDR duties at the Digital Foundry office. The key selling point here is that game mode offers up a respectable 43ms input lag and can be used with HDR without degrading picture quality at all. All the core video processing remains intact and we get a natural HDR presentation combined with responsive controls. The panel also offers up superb black levels for an LCD that appear suitably inky in low light conditions, and delivers a colour gamut that only falls a little short of UHD Premium standards (86 per cent DCI P3).

The display ticks many of the boxes we are looking for, it's enough to deliver a solid HDR experience. However, the edge-lit design means that the screen is not capable of accurately dimming dark areas found in scenes with both bright and dark content visible at the same time. So content with mixed brightness can look washed out in darker scenes, but this also applies to most HDTVs with limited dimming capabilities. Peak brightness is also limited to just over 500 nits (rather than the 1000 specified for UHD Premium), meaning that specular highlights won't appear as provinces compared to on UHD Premium sets. For the price, though, it's the best HDR display for gaming out of the ones we've tested, and it's possible to have low input lag while displaying accurate images after calibration. £1180 for a quality 58-inch 4K display? Sold.

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Panasonic DX902: Low input lag, high-level performance

One of the promising performers is Panasonic's flagship DX902 set, which hits all the required standards and delivers a fairly quick 38ms input lag in the true cinema preset, with and without game mode activated. As with all of Panasonic's 2016 range, game mode works in conjunction with other picture modes (such as cinema) allowing for accurate images and HDR with low input lag.

Dedicated gamers should be able to enjoy most titles without the experience feeling compromised. A VA panel gives us deep blacks, while the use of FALD (full array local dimming) should help with maintaining these when bright and dark images are on screen at the same time when using HDR. The dynamic backlight implementation isn't without drawbacks such as occasional banding or haloing in demanding content, but is the only way for an LCD TV to handle the increases contrast of HDR without sacrificing black levels.

The downside, is that you're looking at around £2,700 for a 55-inch screen, which is the smallest size for this model. And for that kind of money OLED becomes a viable option - such as the LG B6V. Or you could go high-end and pick up the E6V instead, if money is no object.


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LG E6V: The OLED state of the art
LG's E6 sits just below the top of the range and delivers a vastly superior image to the Panasonic DX902 due to featuring incredibly deep black levels with excellent colour accuracy and contrast. It also supports both Dolby Vision and HDR10 standards. Game mode provides a very respectable 33ms response time for regular content, though this goes up to 64ms in movie mode, so there is the potential for HDR gaming to feel a touch sluggish for those sensitive to input lag. That said, the outstanding contrast levels on offer mean that standard range content can almost appear as impressive as a true HDR presentation, and as a TV for standard range (SDR) gaming, it's quite possibly the best available right now.

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Panasonic DX700: Low input lag at entry level prices
Not everyone has thousands to spend on a new UHD TV, though, and it's between the £800-£1500 price point for 40-55-inch screen where most purchases are likely to be made. It's possible to grab some real bargains by opting for an entry-level HDR display, although inevitable the experience won't be as impressive compared to UHD Premium branded sets, you can get a decent HDR experience, but not one that shows the true potential of the format. The Panasonic DX750 is our top pick of the bunch in this price bracket, but the DX700 is a cheaper alternative.

It delivers similar performance in a few areas and shaves off around £300 of the price: it comes with a VA panel delivering deep blacks and input lag comes in at 41ms with game mode, true cinema and HDR enabled. Colour gamut also covers 86 per cent of DCI P3. However, the compromise comes in the form of just 350 nits of peak brightness, limiting the impact of HDR - it doesn't go much brighter than regular HDTVs and the use of edge lighting means only specular highlights and dark scenes really benefit from the new format. Viewing angles are also limited, which is something to bear in mind.

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LG UH850V: Dolby Vision and HDR10 in an affordable package

The LG UH850V offers up 48ms of latency in cinema mode, which should provide a fairly responsive gaming experience when using HDR. It also delivers around 500 nits of peak brightness, and the colour gamut hovers around 90 per cent of DCI P3, so HDR can still provide an upgrade over standard range content. Dolby Vision is also supported, giving users more choice in terms of HDR content to watch However, contrast is limited by an IPS panel, which only produces greyish looking blacks and limits dynamic range in mixed contrast scenes. However, viewing angles are generous and this makes the display more suitable for off-axis viewing.


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Why HDR might not be the right tech for you
It's worth bearing in mind that once you have an HDR capable TV in hand, expectations should be managed in terms of the kind of upgrade on offer with many displays. For example, entry-level sets are unable to really show off the full capabilities of tech owning to LCD backlight limitations and lack of direct local dimming. You simply cannot make dark areas appear darker when there is mixed content on-screen with edge-based dimming, partially limiting higher dynamic range to brighter scenes. FALD (full array local dimming) does a much more convincing job and the results can look excellent. However, occasional halos or banding can be an issue with more difficult content, and this something only a self-emitting pixel display - like OLED - can avoid.

Outside of gaming, there's the issue of how HDR content is actually authored, and how this effects the experience across various viewing environments. HDR material itself is mastered to be displayed in a low light environment, making it unsuitable for viewing in bright daytime conditions. When HDR content is displayed, the backlight needs to be maxed out in order to display the increased brightness range for specular highlights, while the baseline white level is capped at a much lower 120 nits.

This is fine when viewing in a dark room, but in bright environments it's impossible to bump up the backlight any further in order to raise the baseline light output for normal details - essentially, all the headroom available during standard range content is being used to display highlights, so cannot be used to create an overall brighter image. As such, outside of bright highlights, HDR content with look dimmer than a standard range presentation when viewed in daytime conditions. To cut a long story short - if you game a lot in the day-time, the chances are that HDR will actually produce a worse image based on the technology currently available.


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LG UH850V
Panasonic DX750 Panasonic DX700 Samsung KS7000 Samsung KS9500
Panel Type
OLED IPS VA VA VA VA
HDR Support UHD Premium Yes Yes Yes UHD Premium UHD Premium
Colour Gamut (DCI P3) 96% 90% 86% 86% 96% 96%
Black Level (nits) 0.000 0.084 0.029 0.046 0.030 0.014
Peak Brightness (nits) 640 550 500 350 1000 1200
Movie/Cinema Lag 64ms 48ms 105ms 119ms 117ms 124ms
Game Lag 33ms 31ms 41ms 41ms 21ms 21ms


So with that in mind, we get the feeling that HDR is designed primarily for dedicated AV enthusiasts rather than the average viewer, and of course the limitations in current panel technology obviously played a part in creating the mastering standards. And as a result, those who are expecting to gain the benefits of HDR during daytime viewing may be disappointed, limiting the mass-market appeal of the technology.

That said, there's no doubt that HDR is a game-changer in the appropriate conditions, with wider colour gamuts and expanded dynamic range helping to deliver a much bigger upgrade to picture quality over the raw increase in pixel counts alone. However, it's early days for the HDR format, and it's clear that both hardware and content providers are still getting up to speed in terms of how best to implement the technology across a range of different displays. On top of that, providing a low input lag picture mode with HDR is something that clearly hasn't been factored in with this year's line-up. Of course this is likely to change as soon as the number of HDR-enabled games increases, though it may take some time.

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For those not interested in HDR, the Samsung KU6400 (KU7000 in North America) offers up great 4K performance at a low price point. Extremely low input lag, deep blacks and good colour accuracy all provide a solid experience. The KU6000 (KU6300 in the US) is the cut-down option, with a standard rec 709 colour gamut (the KU6400/KU7000's is slightly wider) and a direct backlit display rather than an edge-lit set-up.

Right now options are somewhat limited for gamers in need of a low latency screen for HDR. And balancing out a good ratio of price versus performance alongside the different panel types and standards (which can dramatically affect HDR performance) isn't as easy as it should be. The Panasonic DX750 hits the sweet spot for displays around the £1000 mark in terms of both screen size and feature set, while the LG UH850V provides a good alternative for those who prefer the wider viewing angles of an IPS panel.

In terms of higher-end models the Panasonic DX902 stands out as an excellent choice delivering solid performance in many areas. Alternatively, more casual gamers and those not too sensitive to input lag would do well to check out LG's E6V OLED (or perhaps the cheaper B6). At 64ms input lag is certainly tolerable for more casual HDR gaming, and you get the added benefits of superb contrast and native black levels that exceed even the best Plasma HDTVs.

Of course if HDR isn't of importance, there's a much larger selection of excellent displays with low input lag. Most of Samsung's 2016 line-up features under 25ms latency with game mode enabled and feature VA panels for dark black levels. The KU6400 and KU6000 stand out here with very good performance at low prices, and we'll be reviewing one of these Samsungs very soon. Those who prefer the wider viewing angles provided by IPS panels would be wise to look at the LG UH850V, which achieves a respectable 31ms in game mode. Meanwhile, those looking for a replacement for the excellent Panasonic and Pioneer plasmas should certainly check out LG's range of OLED screens. Game mode in the E6V is decent at 31ms, and performance in other areas is vastly superior to even the best LCDs on the market. Just be prepared for a truly wallet-lightening retail experience.

Many thanks to Sevenoaks Sound and Vision for allowing us direct hands-on access to every display tested in this article.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-the-best-4k-screens-for-hdr-gaming?


The Best 4K HDR TVs for Your Xbox One S

he Xbox One S is out August 2nd but in order to take advantage of all of its features, you’re going to need a compatible television. Microsoft’s mid-cycle refresh of the Xbox One may seem like a minor upgrade on paper, but the inclusion of HDR and 4K will make games and movies more immersive than ever. At least until Project Scorpio comes bearing VR support.

So before you head out and buy an Xbox One S, take a look at your current TV and decide if it's worth upgrading to get the most out of Microsoft’s new console. If you are upgrading your TV, here’s what you need to know to get the best Xbox One S experience.

What is HDR?


HDR stands for “high dynamic range” and has been used in the photography world for a long time. You may have noticed a “HDR” mode on your iPhone or Android, which helps capture more detail in dark or overly bright areas. HDR for televisions also aims to increase the level of realism and detail, but for video instead of still images.

With HDR, blacks will be deeper and darker and whites will be whiter. You’ll also get a wider range of colors with HDR to help reproduce subtle color differences. The goal of HDR is to provide a picture that’s more true to real life and while the effect is subtle, it’s noticeable when compared alongside non-HDR content.

HDR10 vs Dolby Vision
Here’s where HDR gets tricky - currently, there are two standards of HDR: HDR10 and Dolby Vision. Here’s what you need to know about each standard:

HDR10

HDR10 (aka HDR1000) is the open industry standard that has been adopted by TV manufacturers like Sony, LG, Samsung, Sharp and more. Movie studios behind HDR10 include 20th Century Fox, Netflix, Warner Brothers, Walt Disney and others. Every upcoming 4K capable Blu-ray player will support HDR10.

Dolby Vision

Dolby Vision is a proprietary standard created by Dolby and it promises some technical advantages over HDR10. Dolby Vision features 12-bit color depth vs HDR10’s 10-bit. Dolby’s standard also cranks out more nits of screen brightness than HDR10, which is great if you have a TV that can get that bright.

HDR10 vs. Dolby Vision: Which is better?

On a technical and theoretical level, Dolby Vision is superior. However, HDR10 wins by being the more widely adopted standard that doesn’t require specialized hardware. If you have the means to purchase a TV that supports Dolby Vision, you can do so without too much worry, as that TV will also be able to support HDR10. However, you’ll risk paying more for a Dolby Vision supported TV if that HDR format fails to get traction.

If all you want to do is to use your Xbox One S to its fullest potential, then a 4K HDR10 TV will be just fine, as there are no plans for the console to support Dolby Vision.

What 4K HDR TV should I buy?
LG 65EF9500 ($4,499)

If cost is no object, the LG 65EF9500 is one of the best 4K UHD TVs you can buy right now. PCMag says, “Once again, LG has produced an OLED display that offers the best picture you can buy.” The TV features an OLED display, which produces the blackest blacks and more vibrant colors than even a plasma TV could provide. It features great video processing and has a striking look with its 0.25-inch thin body. It also supports both Dolby Vision and HDR10, so your Xbox One S will work well with it, and you'll get the most out of any media that supports Dolby's proprietary technology.





Samsung UN65KS8000 ($2,799)

If you don’t drive a Bugatti and maybe want to feed your kids instead of blowing all your money on a TV, the Samsung UN65KS8000 is a great high-end choice. It supports HDR10, which will work great with the Xbox One S, and offers 4K resolution upscaling for all the 1080p content you’re likely still consuming. You’ll still get a gorgeous life-like picture, but just a tad less dynamic and eye popping as the LG.





Vizio P Series ($1,000 - $3,799)

Vizio has long been known as a budget brand, but the Vizio P Series proves the company can stand with the best. The P Series offers outstanding picture quality and also features a unique Android tablet remote, plus it has Google Cast and smart TV features built in. However, it doesn't actually support Dolby Vision and HDR10 formats yet. Vizio plans to patch in support, so while the Xbox One S will conceivably pair perfectly with the Vizio P Series, you will be waiting on an update patch before it can take full advantage of all of the console's features.

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Samsung UN55KU6300 ($898)

If you’re on a budget, the Samsung UN55KU6300 is your best bet. It offers both 4K resolution and HDR10 support for your Xbox One S. You don’t get the flexibility of having Dolby Vision support, but if all you want to do is play games and watch Blu-ray movies in HDR, the UN55KU6300 will do just fine. You do give up some color reproduction and brightness for this budget set, but if you’re upgrading from an old 1080p TV, you’ll be blown away by its sharpness and colors.





http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/07/28/the-best-4k-hdr-tvs-for-your-xbox-one-s
 
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Plan on getting my 4K TV at the end of the year but will probably wait for Scorpio still. Hope to have some details by then.
 
Xbox One S is the right console for 2016’s messy 4K-television market

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Sony and Microsoft are both trying to push console gaming into 4K, and the latest revision of the Xbox is doing that the right way for the current television market.

Earlier this week, Microsoft released the Xbox One S. This is a slimmer Xbox One that can upscale game content to 4K and can play 4K video like Ultra HD Blu-ray films. It starts at $300 for a 500GB model — although the $400 2TB version is the only one on store shelves right now. I’ve already reviewed it, and I think it’s the go-to Xbox One model for anyone looking to get a next-gen system. But, more than that, the Xbox One S is a savvy move from Microsoft to help settle a 4K TV business that is still a realm primarily for early adopters.

4K is a new video standard that comprises four-times the number of pixels of 1080p, which is sometimes called “full HD.” Between now and next holiday, Sony and Microsoft will have three different “4K” consoles. The Xbox One S is out now, and Sony is planning to launch the PlayStation 4 Neo sometime in the near future. At the Electronic Entertainment Expo trade show in June, Microsoft also revealed that it will launch the Xbox One Scorpio in 2017. The Neo and the Scorpio will both feature major horsepower improvements aimed at delivering improved visuals rendered at a 4K resolution. But while Sony may jump straight to the upgrade with Neo, Microsoft may benefit from launching the Xbox One S first.

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Microsoft is correct to emphasize HDR
4K is going to replace 1080p. It’s already happening on the high-end of the market. And in the same way that you can hardly find a 720p television today, you will probably have the same trouble with 1080p in a few years. But 4K isn’t that exciting of an upgrade for most people simply because of how far away they sit from their televisions. Once you’re 10 feet away (the average distance people watch their TVs from) the human eye typically can’t discern the difference between 1,080 horizontal lines of resolution and 2,160. Some people can see it, but you probably can’t.

Even if you can see a difference between 1080p and 4K from 10 feet away, your kick-ass vision will benefit far more from other exciting display technologies that are happening alongside the bump up in resolution. Most notably, high-dynamic range (HDR) could usher in image-quality improvements equivalent to the shift from standard definition to HD. HDR works by offering up a higher contrast range between the bright and dark colors on your screen. It also helps more accurately reproduce those colors so that every image looks more natural.

While 4K is an upgrade, HDR is where most average people will notice the improvements.

4K standards are still a headache
But while 4K and HDR are incredible, they are not always the same from one set to another because different manufacturers are still using varying standards.

Earlier this year, the Ultra HD Alliance settled on the Ultra HD Premium format, which is a resolution of 3850 x 2160, the BT.2020 color gamut, and HDR. If you see a device or content with the Ultra HD Premium trademark, it’s going to give you everything you need to get the most from the Xbox One S. But the problem is that this standard is so new that not even Sony is building TV sets that supports it yet. And even when you buy a set from manufacturers who support the standard, like LG or Samsung, it doesn’t mean you’ll get a plug-and-play experience out of the box.

We’re at a point with HD that you almost certainly have a few extra HDMI cables laying around your house. But guess what! Most of those are not going to work with UHD. You need the high-speed 2.0 HDMI cable (Xbox One S comes with one) to get the bandwidth required for 4K video at 60hz.

The result of all these standards and requirements is that you have a relatively high chance of plugging a 4K device, like the Xbox One S, into a “4K” TV that won’t produce a 4K or HDR signal.



Remember that 10-year period where you would visit your uncle and he’s have a 4:3 SD image stretched across a nice new 16:9 1080p display? We’re back in that phase again with 4K.

Xbox One S to save the day
But the good thing here is that the Xbox One S is going to give the market a reasons to meet UHD Premium standards. Between the Xbox One S and PlayStation 4 Neo, 4K-capable devices should surge in popularity over the next 12 months. If a manufacturer releases a set that doesn’t fully support the Xbox One S, it is severely limiting the appeal of that TV. Instead, you can probably expect most companies to start pointing out whether they are Xbox One S compatible.

This ensures that when Microsoft does launch Xbox One Scorpio in late 2017, the market will likely have already worked through the kinks of 4K and HDR. And that will potentially lead to a smoother launch for that device.

http://venturebeat.com/2016/08/06/x...console-for-2016s-messy-4k-television-market/
 
Damn, y'all got me contemplating trading in my Xbox One to get the S.

Truthfully, maybe not. I don't play the shit as much these days anyways.

I'll hold out till Scorpio
 
I glad I traded mine in....my old one was loud.
Not is loud as my PS4...LOL....but i am letting my PS4 go...I am going straight XBOX
 
I want an oled tv but the prices are crazy. Gonna wait until next year, maybe after year after CES.
 
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