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Transgenders in society: What’s your take?

DJCandle said:
I know most folks probably don’t wanna talk about, nor care to talk about this, but I’m starting to see this more and more and in my personal life via friends and family, so I’m sure others are too, so to address the elephant in the room, what are your thoughts on transgenders in todays society?

Do they bother you, do you care, do you take issue with their agenda, or are you fine with it and you don’t take issue at all?

Do you have any personal experience with them?

Are there any in your family or friends circle? Coworkers perhaps?

What does our future hold with this rapidly rising community who claim to have been here since the beginning of time?

I’ve done my due diligence and my stance is this:

I don’t care if they exist.

You can play dress up all day long and wear whatever tf you wanna wear and that’s cool. Long as you stay in your lane and leave me alone, I have no issue with you. My biggest issue is the delusion. The delusion that you couldn’t accept what you were born as and had to change it, plus you went as far as to completely change the English language to suit your agenda and force yourselves upon the world for acceptance, particularly with children. Plus the fact if you say anything contrary to their point, you’re canceled or a transphobe. Those things are a struggle for adults to deal with, let alone kids.

For me, fighting nature is a losing battle but we do it every single day so it’s a quandary. But I still feel that a biological man is a man, and biological woman is a woman. Full stop. Don’t call yourself a “woman” if you were born a man and vice versa.

There’s something about this that always feel wrong to me but that’s just my personal take.

Discuss.
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Post got fag drippings all over it
 
Chiyo said:
I think the questions come up because it touches so many parts of society now.

Do you support children transitioning?
Do you support them in gendered sports?
Do you support them calling themselves what they want to call themselves?

Everyone will fall somewhere differently on the spectrum I'd imagine.

Me personally? I fully support trans rights. I think they should live how they see fit, and shouldnt face disrespect for it.
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Respect is a two way street. The disrespect only comes when respect isn’t given, which seems to be often with this community.

If regular people are asking you not to call them “cisgender”, then you should respect this as well, not feel entitled to force your ways onto people and children.

Exist but co-exist.
 
Chiyo said:
Or they could be like me. Nerdy kid on the internet who found people like him and discovered:

"Oh im not the only black kid who isnt trying to be a rapper or Athlete and maybe im not weird at all"

The internet was an amazing tool for me as a kid, but I will say it was a lot less prominent back then. Very few kids had access to the web when I got on in the late 90s.
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Yeah, but when everyone in your group is bragging "they're gay and trans" and that was "the answer to all their problems" impressionable kids start to follow.
 
Chiyo said:
I think the questions come up because it touches so many parts of society now.

Do you support children transitioning?
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No
Chiyo said:
Do you support them in gendered sports?
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Hell no
Chiyo said:
Do you support them calling themselves what they want to call themselves?
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Call themselves whatever they want, as long as they don't demand that I do it.
Chiyo said:
Everyone will fall somewhere differently on the spectrum I'd imagine.

Me personally? I fully support trans rights. I think they should live how they see fit, and shouldnt face disrespect for it.
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I support people to do whatever they want as long as they don't force me to participate.
 
DJCandle said:
Respect is a two way street. The disrespect only comes when respect isn’t given, which seems to be often with this community.

If regular people are asking you not to call them “cisgender”, then you should respect this as well, not feel entitled to force your ways onto people and children.

Exist but co-exist.
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Coexisting is kinda forcing yourself at the end of the day because changing the status quo only happens with force.

I think throughout history we like to view things as just gradually happening. Womens rights, civil rights, workers rights. Like one day folks just got up and it was "Cool", but that isnt how humans work. Every change that happened only happened because it was pushed by force. When I was at Georgia tech I remember having to go through AJC archives for a paper and it was insane that even in the early 70's(Lifetime of many of the folks on here) the paper was still dealing with folks in Atlanta of all places writing in to cry about "Race mixing" being shown on public television just because blacks and puerto ricans were friends with whites on Sesame Street. Society had to force these people to change even when it made them uncomfortable the same way its forcing us.

Are new terms like cisgender annoying? Probably, but in the grand scheme of things a trans person calling me cis doesnt affect me. If its just their way of classifying someone who isnt trans then I dont see the big issue.:dunno:


Drayonis said:
Yeah, but when everyone in your group is bragging "they're gay and trans" and that was "the answer to all their problems" impressionable kids start to follow.
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Kids follow a lot of things. If they turn gay just because all of their friends are doing it then they were probably gay from the jump. Boys especially as girls can go either way as their sexuality in mostly formed by the male gaze anyway.
 
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Chiyo said:
Coexisting is kinda forcing yourself at the end of the day because changing the status quo only happens with force.

I think throughout history we like to view things as just gradually happening. Womens rights, civil rights, workers rights. Like one day folks just got up and it was "Cool", but that isnt how humans work. Every change that happened only happened because it was pushed by force. When I was at Georgia tech I remember having to go through AJC archives for a paper and it was insane that even in the early 70's(Lifetime of many of the folks on here) the paper was still dealing with folks in Atlanta of all places writing in to cry about "Race mixing" being shown on publish television just because blacks and puerto ricans were friends with whites on Sesame Street. Society had to force these people to change even when it made them uncomfortable the same way its forcing us.

Are new terms like cisgender annoying? Probably, but in the grand scheme of things a trans person calling me cis doesnt affect me. If its ust their way of classifying someone who isnt trans then I dont see the big issue.:dunno:
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Great post and I see where you’re coming from with the forcing and changing of the status quo.

I’d love to hear a woman’s stance on this cause from what I’m hearing, many women feel disrespected that men are coming into their spaces and, more or less, slapping them in the face with this movement. Many feel that womanhood is sacred and should be protected and it’s being taken away by men who can’t fathom what they go through. The rights women have fought for because words no longer have meaning eg. “Man” & “Woman.” Maybe @Camille & @cocobeauty can chime in on this.

Again, I don’t mind them existing. Wear a dress all you want but don’t force your ways onto people or align yourself with a struggle you’ve never endured.
 
ny1800 said:
Damn son, is Chappelle giving in? I know he talked about his shim friend but having one to open up for you when you don't need the money or white approval since we've been riding with you.
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I cant say he is or not, but this one is the one he been friends with for some time... and whe they were talking shit about him this is the one that stood up for him..so to say it hes been friends with this person for quite some time.. but thats their world i just thought i would share the weird experience that it was....very weird, but not uncomfortably weird...
 
My take is I’ve done a lot of listening and learning in the past few years, and while I don’t completely understand the physiology of being trans, I don’t think that understanding is necessary to respect a person’s place in society, and their gender identity.

That’s really all it comes down to for me. It costs me nothing to respect a person’s identity/preferred pronouns.

There’s a more nuanced conversation to be had, but I’m not sure if this is the right place for that conversation.
 
fwillia said:
My take is I’ve done a lot of listening and learning in the past few years, and while I don’t completely understand the physiology of being trans, I don’t think that understanding is necessary to respect a person’s place in society, and their gender identity.

That’s really all it comes down to for me. It costs me nothing to respect a person’s identity/preferred pronouns.

There’s a more nuanced conversation to be had, but I’m not sure if this is the right place for that conversation.
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You can have that conversation. The adults are listening.
 
Chiyo said:
Kids follow a lot of things. If they turn gay just because all of their friends are doing it then they were probably gay from the jump. Boys especially as girls can go either way as their sexuality in mostly formed by the male gaze anyway.
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I'm not talking about simply being gay. Go on youtube and type up "detransitioning". There are hundreds of videos on the subject from people who desransitioned and one of the biggest things they pointed (well many pointed) to was that they internet and pressure was a factor. Many of them outlined what I mentioned. They felt weird and like outsiders being that they were already gay, but the next step was to transition.
 
DJCandle said:
Again, I don’t mind them existing. Wear a dress all you want but don’t force your ways onto people or align yourself with a struggle you’ve never endured.
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This. I don't need to hate you, but if a person doesn't want their kids around it, fine. If someone doesn't want to call you by your "preferred pronoun" in passing, then fine too. My issue is the "forcing" aspect. You'll lose your job if you don't want to "play along" bullshit.
 
Live and let live just stay out of female spaces when kids are in there. Fucked up, maybe but we don’t owe you the choice to use the women’s restroom and have you girls wonder what is going on with the giant “lady”.

I’m have a Neanderthal mentality on this shit and I’m okay with it as a girl dad. Don’t make me fuck you up, sir/ma’am.

Apply that to playing sports as well.
 
Don Coreleone said:
We've always had them. It's just like gay people we've always had them and despite what modern media says the Black community never really had an issue with them until the shit just became blatant. Just to give examples in the 70s and I know these are celebrities but we rocked with people like Sylvester, Freddie Mercury, Elton John the 80's Luther Vandross, George Micheal and other people like lil Richard like come on who didn't know Lil Richard was gay. The choir director was usually gay but like I said when the shit got blatant that's just a bridge too far. Nobody wants to see blatant shit just running amok and that's what you have now. This shit with teaching kids, changing school books up etc etc that shit won't fly
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It's true that gay people have been around forever but gay and transgender are totally different though, none of those guys you mentioned wanted to be addressed as “ma'am/she/her”, wanted to use the womens restroom in public, Lil Richard and Elton John may have dressed in blouses and wore makeup but they didn't have on full dresses, miniskirts, halter tops and had fake boobs. This transgender rights stuff we're seeing now is totally new
phanatic said:
I respect that you admit you have a double standard. I think its because growing up, we knew lesbian studs and it was somewhat normalized in the hood, especially a place where you had to portray yourself a certain way to avoid conflict. We had gay dudes around, but they were just sissies, they weren't trying to dress like women.
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I don't even see it as a double standard because I'm not ACCEPTING either one of them as being the other gender, I'm simply playing along with the female sides delusion because it takes no effort. if either side asked me truthfully if I saw them as the other sex then I'd tell them no and that includes my female family member that lives as a man
 
yasky777 said:
This subject is touchy, I was fucking this chic from a near city, she has a son and a daughter and the girl was the athlete and the son was trying until he was diagnosed with an enlarged heart. The boy is a clear flamer to me we always saw signs of it coming… we all know the signs.
Anyway I have two sons one that’s 12 and the other special needs and don’t want them really socializing with each other. I know I’m wrong but the weirdness of it all makes shit tough.

One morning after I stayed the night with his Moms he asked if I’d take him to school and hit Starbucks on the way. I agreed because overall I like the kid but this mufucka was wearing jeggings and flannel covering his fingers with a white tshirt like girls. I watched him gracefully float across the park Iot as he went in for his beverage and all I could do is say he’ll naw, because nobody says to him yo. You act like a bitch chill out.
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Did he saunter or sashay :giggle:
 
BrownTurd said:
For me is should be considered rape if you don’t disclose a sex change to someone before having sex.

That’s pretty much all I require
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:puzzled: I dunno if I'd go as far as rape but I definitely agree there needs be disclosure on that information.
 
this is getting outta hand here i mean i woman is a woman and a man is a freaking man period..if a person comes to me im gonna say what it say on your driver's license if it has a m or a f thats what im calling you.i be damn if im calling a chic he or a dude she not gonna happen im so tired of this weird bull crap..
 
cashwhisperer said:
I have a female cousin that married a chick and introduced her to me as her husband....:hmm:

.......being an ugly ass bitch doesn't make you a man. :smh:
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I love you all motherfuckers. We can say shit to and around each other that we can't say to the rest of the fucking world.

It's not a surprise that this shit is being pushed off on us. I can't get with so many people getting on board with it. No baby has ever been born that when the doctor pulled it out and said, this is a trans baby

Not never. There is no agreement with what the doctor said you were at Birth. The doctor simply said, if this baby has a vagina, it is a girl. If the baby has a penis it is a boy. You look down see what you have and that's what you are. Just because a woman doesn't have Fallopian tubes doesn't make her a man

I'm sick of this shit and it's growing
 


Even though I don't fuck with Shapiro, he was on point and got the tranny outta pocket.
 
DJCandle said:
Respect. As an educator, do you agree with the agenda being placed in elementary schools to shape the minds of young children?

Do you call the trans males, male and vice versa?
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It’s complicated because some of these kids have parents that are transgender, so it’s deeper now of days. I don’t agree because it causes confusion, but I have to navigate it regardless of what I think.

It’s very normal now of days.
 
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As long as they tell people they are Trannies I have no problem with them, where they are at! But the minute I hear one trying to trick a straight man and gets their ass handed to them, well I look at them the same way I look at people who get off on kicking sleeping bears in the nuts, all that is fun in games until you wake up the wrong bear! And instead of suggesting we take down the bear for killing a man, we should say this is what you get when you play stupid games, the same should be said about trannies who get fucked up after their stunt goes wrong. Don't blame the man or bear, for dumb mistakes made by idiots!
 

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