Thought Experiment: what would happen if Black Americans boycotted the two party system for ten years?

First part of what I typed is true Asians have the lowest voter turnout in America. Still got a hate crime bill with this regime.

Latinos are white legally, Democrats pander and cater to GOP voters. Black Americans should follow suit and vote GOP. Maybe Dems will do the same. Got nothing to lose at this point. If they chose to vote.
We got one of those hate crime bills also. They don't do much. You know what Asians didn’t get? GOP types saying stop all hate. Stop Asian hate was a national rallying cry meanwhile Black lives will never matter to the GOP. The last cac that asked us what we got to lose fuct the country up pretty bad so we lost quite a bit. Thanks but no.
 
you serious?do you know how many local, state, federal, county, parish, hood elections are going down without our input? when you look at the hard numbers of who voted vs eligible black folks who can vote, that shit is straight up sad.. us sitting out of shit for 10yrs, won't change a damn thing. when white folds didn't allow us to vote, they didn't give a fuck and now we can, they still dont' give a fuck. Sitting out of any election or two party system is not an option. vote for something or somebody but damnnit vote!
 
Not only do we need to leave the two party system, but we need to figure out how we can create our party to look after our own interests.
 
Let THEM suffer??? Remember all that stuff I mentioned. The GOP is targeting US! We will be the ones that suffer. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Either you're incredibly dumb or an agent. :dunno:
bruh, if your choice is nothing or worse, and will continue to be that way, and you accept that, you are the one incredibly dumb.

once again, no leverage. a vote is for getting things your way, not out of fear if you dont vote at all, it will be worst. you aleady lost
 
The first part of what you typed is bullshit so let's ignore it. Half of Latinos think they white so they know it's WS for the win. Only about 10 percent of us think they white so they vote republican.
you just talk out of your ass.

most latinos vote democrat and per actual research by pew:
only a third consider themselves white after being called hispanic first
 
you just talk out of your ass.

most latinos vote democrat and per actual research by pew:
only a third consider themselves white after being called hispanic first
Read a little further down on the page until you get to that 40% number. Looks like you the talking out ya ass.
 
Read a little further down on the page until you get to that 40% number. Looks like you the talking out ya ass.
that is the wrong context and still not half. mine is based on an actual number, you just made shit up, and they vote democrat by far.
 
The electoral process would just go on and all the local positions will be filled with even more people that don't have your best interests otherwise at least threatened by your non vote.
 
I can't blame poor black folks for not giving a damn about politics. I thi k it would be a great hung for us to create our own party. Two party system is just indoctrination at the end of the day.
 
I can't blame poor black folks for not giving a damn about politics. I thi k it would be a great hung for us to create our own party. Two party system is just indoctrination at the end of the day.
Freudian slip.
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I sill think this is a malformed thought experiment, because the key to an effective boycott is holding some form of leverage (usually spending power) over a business or institution as a threat to their reverse.
In this scenario, I cannot see how us not voting poses any leverage. Utilizing leverage more effectively, would be collectively voting independently for a third party that better caters towards our interest.
 
I sill think this is a malformed thought experiment, because the key to an effective boycott is holding some form of leverage (usually spending power) over a business or institution as a threat to their reverse.
In this scenario, I cannot see how us not voting poses any leverage. Utilizing leverage more effectively, would be collectively voting independently for a third party that better caters towards our interest.

Also using leverage more effectively would be creating coalitions of voting blocks that support issues we support. Instead of making our vote less consequential we should be looking to make it more consequential. I know this is blasphemy because they have been teaching us to hate other races as much as they (white people) do but finding issues to align ourselves with the latino's the asians even the new immigrants would give our issues more power. Black people have a lot of political power in America. We may not realize it but our representation in politics is much stronger than latinos or asians. While we have that strength we can use their votes to help push our issues.
 


If Muslims boycotted the next election, it would be a short term disaster.

But, upon losing and finding out their power, I bet the Democrats never fuck around and find out again.

It would be smart in the long run.
 
I sill think this is a malformed thought experiment, because the key to an effective boycott is holding some form of leverage (usually spending power) over a business or institution as a threat to their reverse.
In this scenario, I cannot see how us not voting poses any leverage. Utilizing leverage more effectively, would be collectively voting independently for a third party that better caters towards our interest.

Read the thread title and OP again. You’re not understanding the scenario— what you are suggesting is not at all at odds with the thought experiment.
 
Read the thread title and OP again. You’re not understanding the scenario— what you are suggesting is not at all at odds with the thought experiment.

Thought Experiment: what would happen if Black Americans boycotted the two party system for ten years?​


What am I missing? It literally says what would happen if we boycotted (i.e. not vote) the two-party system for ten years..
And my answer was, not voting alone isn't an empowering act that can net positive results. Now if I am missing something please be specific with your comments and we can take it from there.
 

Thought Experiment: what would happen if Black Americans boycotted the two party system for ten years?​


What am I missing? It literally says what would happen if we boycotted (i.e. not vote) the two-party system for ten years..
And my answer was, not voting alone isn't an empowering act that can net positive results. Now if I am missing something please be specific with your comments and we can take it from there.

"Boycotted the two-party system"

That means the two-party duopoly-- Democrats and Republicans.

It is right there in the thread title and also spelled out in the first post:

In ten years, voting GOP would still not be an option but Dems would see that Black America has another option— Not voting for them, either by not voting or voting third party. Maybe in 20 years that will have led to better representation and make the ten years a worthwhile investment?

The crux of your post was "Utilizing leverage more effectively, would be collectively voting independently for a third party that better caters towards our interest."

Third party. That's outside of the two-party system. The thought experiment was deliberately phrased to allow that as a tactic.
 
"Boycotted the two-party system"

That means the two-party duopoly-- Democrats and Republicans.

The crux of your post was "Utilizing leverage more effectively, would be collectively voting independently for a third party that better caters towards our interest."

Third party. That's outside of the two-party system. The thought experiment was deliberately phrased to allow that as a tactic.
How are dual-party systems in all-white countries compromised without any black voters? The only thing that would happen if we don't vote is that the people who are running for election will not have to cater to the needs of black folks pushing the axis of balance between the two parties further towards the right.
 
How are dual-party systems in all-white countries compromised without any black voters? The only thing that would happen if we don't vote is that the people who are running for election will not have to cater to the needs of black folks pushing the axis of balance between the two parties further towards the right.

What you wrote would be true if this was a permanent boycott. If the black vote disappeared. That's not what the proposal is.

If Democrats lose by a margin where black voters could have made the difference, and then that vote is up for grabs in the next election, the politicians and consultants would cater to that constituency rather than take it for granted.
 
What you wrote would be true if this was a permanent boycott. If the black vote disappeared. That's not what the proposal is.

If Democrats lose by a margin where black voters could have made the difference, and then that vote is up for grabs in the next election, the politicians and consultants would cater to that constituency rather than take it for granted.
Well, basically you are saying what would happen if were to become hypothetical free agents, thinking that one of the two will give into our demands. But in actuality the reverse would occur where both sides would ignore us, forcing us to either become permanently irrelevant or buy into the newer system created by our void. In other words, it would be just another empty toothless tiger threat similar to the 1% Wall Street protest and typical rent strike protest!
 
What you wrote would be true if this was a permanent boycott. If the black vote disappeared. That's not what the proposal is.

If Democrats lose by a margin where black voters could have made the difference, and then that vote is up for grabs in the next election, the politicians and consultants would cater to that constituency rather than take it for granted.

Many here seem to be ignoring the elephant (pun intended) in the room: if republicans win the presidency and either of the two houses of congress next time, there will not BE another election, not a real one, anyway. Our subsequent elections will be just like the elections of Putin. The strongman, once installed, NEVER loses an election.

Idiots and people who were throwing spitballs in civics class (back when they taught it) don't know this.
A lot of them here.

Also, am I the only one who thinks the idiot who started this thread has more than one screen name? Change your name. Change your profile. I can smell the stink of idiocy on 'im still.

Up, up and away....lurking to do today.
 
The idea of boycotting elections is feeble minded at the least. If Black people were to boycott Fourth of July, Christmas and Thanksgiving the impact would be far more impactful.
Correct, because of the leverage of our purchasing power to hold over their heads. However, with this shit, I fail to see any leverage whatsoever.
 
What you wrote would be true if this was a permanent boycott. If the black vote disappeared. That's not what the proposal is.

If Democrats lose by a margin where black voters could have made the difference, and then that vote is up for grabs in the next election, the politicians and consultants would cater to that constituency rather than take it for granted.
No. The Republicans would pass nationwide laws to suppress the Black vote so they would never have to worry about the Black vote again. This is what Republicans have done wherever they have power.
 
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