Superteams usually underperform - will Durant's Warriors be different?

No this is not what I am saying, I am saying that rhythm shooters like Durant ...

Your entire premise is wrong. Pure shooters don't need volume to make shots. Give them clean looks and they're going to make shots. Durant is not fucking Kobe. Stop bringing Kobe up. He's not a streaky, low percentage volume shooter.
 
Man KD will have the option to shoot anytime he wants and will be the first option.

The only way this doesn't work to the fullest offensively is IF they ONLY shoot 3s like they did to finish game 7. If Curry becomes disciplined and attacks (and distributes the ball less carelessly), it's going to be real poetry in motion, offensively. By default it's easily going to be the #1 offense in the league. It's just about how great it will be at this point.
 
Your entire premise is wrong. Pure shooters don't need volume to make shots. Give them clean looks and they're going to make shots. Durant is not fucking Kobe. Stop bringing Kobe up. He's not a streaky, low percentage volume shooter.

you don't want durant to get going immediately lol like he can. he killed the warriors when he got easy looks. soon as we were giving him easy looks from mid range and allowing him to the rim there was absolutely nothing we could do to stop it
 
you don't want durant to get going immediately lol like he can. he killed the warriors when he got easy looks. soon as we were giving him easy looks from mid range and allowing him to the rim there was absolutely nothing we could do to stop it

I actually think Durant is going to lead this team in scoring...and I actually think Curry is going to help make it happen by becoming a better PG. If he's talking about improving his game as he says he tries to do every off season, where else is he going to do it?.. it's not really possible for him to shoot THAT much better.
 
The only way this doesn't work to the fullest offensively is IF they ONLY shoot 3s like they did to finish game 7. If Curry becomes disciplined and attacks (and distributes the ball less carelessly), it's going to be real poetry in motion, offensively. By default it's easily going to be the #1 offense in the league. It's just about how great it will be at this point.
Let me ask you this, who are you going to be setting up these pick and rolls with and setting up screen with? You cannot set two screens or pick and rolls up at the same time, so at the end of the day, minus the razzle dazzle its still going to be either/or....
By choosing to run a pick an roll with K.D. instead of Curry or Thompson in reality how is that really an upgrade???
They be actually a better team doing this if all they did was iso's and attacking one on one, but with the team they have its going to be either/or....
 
you don't want durant to get going immediately lol like he can. he killed the warriors when he got easy looks. soon as we were giving him easy looks from mid range and allowing him to the rim there was absolutely nothing we could do to stop it
When he gets hot no one is going to stop him but if you notice most of his better games are the games he dominated the ball, the same can be said about Thompson and Curry..
The problem is how are they going to dominate with out dominating the ball knowing that there are only but so many shots per team a game...
 
So this team could run picks and rolls all day with Barnes on the floor, but it's not going to be possible with Durant on the floor? ok Road Rage :lol:
They seldom had any set plays for Barns, especially vs the Cavs, it was all Green, Curry and Thompson, with Barns in the corner as the kick out outlet guy...
 
Klay shoots 42% and he's all catch and shoot. :lol: So it's huge from 42% to 40%? :lol:

He's shot a higher clip than Klay multiple seasons and he had to do it as a ball-handler.

Now he's going to get completely squared up and just need to catch and shoot. I wouldn't be surprised if he shot at a higher percentage than Klay this season. he's a better pure shooter than Klay anyway...look at the shot charts and free throw percentage.
What is scary about Klay and Curry is that their 3 pt percentage would be higher if they did not jack up 30 footers while drinking Gatorade off one foot while texting. :lol:

Imagine them taking clean looks.
 
So this team could run picks and rolls all day with Barnes on the floor, but it's not going to be possible with Durant on the floor? ok Road Rage :lol:

Right. KD is going to get way easier shits in GS vs being at OKC. He ain't kicking out to waiters, ibaka, or Robinson. The double is really moot in this offense. I know RR understands this. Has to.
 
They seldom had any set plays for Barns, especially vs the Cavs, it was all Green, Curry and Thompson, with Barns in the corner as the kick out outlet guy...

They didn't need any cause the attention was on the other guys. Barnes was always open. He was the dead man.
 
I actually think Durant is going to lead this team in scoring...and I actually think Curry is going to help make it happen by becoming a better PG. If he's talking about improving his game as he says he tries to do every off season, where else is he going to do it?.. it's not really possible for him to shoot THAT much better.

right and the beauty is nobody has 0 fucks to give if durant is the leading scorer if we're winning.
 
Let me ask you this, who are you going to be setting up these pick and rolls with and setting up screen with? You cannot set two screens or pick and rolls up at the same time, so at the end of the day, minus the razzle dazzle its still going to be either/or....
By choosing to run a pick an roll with K.D. instead of Curry or Thompson in reality how is that really an upgrade???
They be actually a better team doing this if all they did was iso's and attacking one on one, but with the team they have its going to be either/or....

1st thompson doesn't run the pick and roll lol
2nd why can't you run the pick and roll with both curry and k.d. especially in a small lineup where he's the 4 or the 5? lol

you keep talking and don't make a lick of sense.
 
So this team could run picks and rolls all day with Barnes on the floor, but it's not going to be possible with Durant on the floor? ok Road Rage :lol:

exactly this nigga is convinced that adding a better scorer, dribbler, passer, rebounder, defender, driver, free throw shooter, 3 point shooter, post player, and a 7 footer at the small forward position is a downgrade.
 
Right. KD is going to get way easier shits in GS vs being at OKC. He ain't kicking out to waiters, ibaka, or Robinson. The double is really moot in this offense. I know RR understands this. Has to.
By this logic Kevin Love and Bosh should have much better stats... But in reality, Durant will not be left wide open, he was never wide open when teams used to triple team Westbrook... Nor was he wide open when he played with Harden, Westbrook and Ibaka...
What will hapen is the defense will rotate and if they kick the ball out to him he is going to have to make decisions fast with less time on the clock than he is used to..
Now many will think he should just shoot, but the problem is usually they been standing around waiting for a shot for long periods of time not being able to establish a rhythm, and for them to catch shoot with a close out guy rotating towards you is not as simple as folks make it out to be..
Thompson is great at this because is is usually the 2nd option and is able to keep his rhythm I just don't see how Curry, Thompson and Durant can be in rhythm with them all doing the same thing taking the same shots especially knowing that Curry and Thompson will be the first and 2nd option....
 
When he gets hot no one is going to stop him but if you notice most of his better games are the games he dominated the ball, the same can be said about Thompson and Curry..
The problem is how are they going to dominate with out dominating the ball knowing that there are only but so many shots per team a game...

you're lying. they don't dominate the ball lol.

when someone is hot or got it going we run plays to make sure they get the ball to shoot.
everything you're saying is the exact opposite of what happens.
especially thompson. when he has it going curry comes up the court waits for the play to pass it to thompson to catch and shoot
if curry has it he alternates. sometimes he takes it up they run the play. other times he doesn't even have the ball on purpose so he can run off the screens catch and shoot lol

you keep talking about dominating the ball with a team that lead the fucking league in assists this year for the 2nd year in a row
 
By this logic Kevin Love and Bosh should have much better stats... But in reality, Durant will not be left wide open, he was never wide open when teams used to triple team Westbrook... .

that never happened.
and when he was on the court with those players he was unstoppable
period.
 
exactly this nigga is convinced that adding a better scorer, dribbler, passer, rebounder, defender, driver, free throw shooter, 3 point shooter, post player, and a 7 footer at the small forward position is a downgrade.
Durant does those things great for his size but he is not a good dribbler for a small forward, not a great passer, not a great re bounder or defender (steph lit his ass up every single time KD switched over, something he couldn't do to Love), he drives ok but turns over and get called for charges way too much..
Look again go back to the Warriors OKC thread and you will see me say all these things, and this was not due to me rooting for one team over the other, it was non bias honest opinions...
 
you're lying. they don't dominate the ball lol.

when someone is hot or got it going we run plays to make sure they get the ball to shoot.
everything you're saying is the exact opposite of what happens.
especially thompson. when he has it going curry comes up the court waits for the play to pass it to thompson to catch and shoot
if curry has it he alternates. sometimes he takes it up they run the play. other times he doesn't even have the ball on purpose so he can run off the screens catch and shoot lol

you keep talking about dominating the ball with a team that lead the fucking league in assists this year for the 2nd year in a row
Steph and Thompson have the freedom to shoot anytime and any place on the court and keep shooting while they are hot... This works well with two players but as you can see when Green gets hot, its hard to manage enough shots for them to all be hot when three or more players are involved...
 
Nigga. Don't you see what you're typing. Now where is Durant going? :lol:.. to the greatest outside shooting team of all time
He lost me on that one. Now imagine Draymond grabbing the board and pushing the break with Curry on one wing and Klay on the other one with Iggy.

Or Durant grabbing the board and sprinting down the court with Klay and Curry as his wing.
 
Durant already loves to drive. He loves to drive more than anybody does he just rarely if ever had a real lane because of the lack of outside shooting in okc. i don't see him falling in love with the 3 he was already going to the rim and dunking on cats in okc off solo shit what you think he gonna do off of flare screens at the elbow where he only has to take 2 steps and he's at the rim or just wide open lanes with steph and klay spaced out or pick and rolls with green or steph where the pick and the roll guy can't leave either.
Correct because you can't cheat or leave Curry or Klay because not only are they great shooters they get their shots up so quickly. Leaving all kinds of open lanes for KD
 
My guess now is that Durant will average around 17pts, Curry 22, Thompson 18 Green 12... The Warriors shooting % will dip and unless they get more shots I think it will be different point distribution rather than increase production... You get production from either more shots (usually from more rebounds or better defense or shooting at a higher %) I just don't see Durant increasing the defense, rebounds or shooting % so all that other stuff is moot..
 
Now if they get other players who can create more shots, then the scenario changes dramatically..
 
They seldom had any set plays for Barns, especially vs the Cavs, it was all Green, Curry and Thompson, with Barns in the corner as the kick out outlet guy...

Right, so you Durant, who is the one of the greatest shooters of all time, can't be the kickout spot up guy on the team with the lead the league in ball movement?

And.. you can run screen and rolls with Klay, but not Durant. You can ran them with Curry, but not Durant. As a matter of fact, you can run even more with Durant because he can be the ball handler (unlike Klay).
 
Right. KD is going to get way easier shits in GS vs being at OKC. He ain't kicking out to waiters, ibaka, or Robinson. The double is really moot in this offense. I know RR understands this. Has to.

There will be no double teams, period with this starting lineup. None.
 
He lost me on that one. Now imagine Draymond grabbing the board and pushing the break with Curry on one wing and Klay on the other one with Iggy.

Or Durant grabbing the board and sprinting down the court with Klay and Curry as his wing.

impossible to defend. The Cavs gambled their entire defense on helping w/ not worrying about Barnes over the last 3 games...who was essentially self-checked shooting 18 percent from the floor. That strategy would have been gone.
 
Steph and Thompson have the freedom to shoot anytime and any place on the court and keep shooting while they are hot... This works well with two players but as you can see when Green gets hot, its hard to manage enough shots for them to all be hot when three or more players are involved...

no its not. because whoever is hot is who is going to shoot and who they want to shoot lol
no selfish dudes on this team. that's why klay can drop 37 in a quarter and curry is more than happy to just watch him score 37 lol

keep making stuff up
 
By this logic Kevin Love and Bosh should have much better stats... But in reality, Durant will not be left wide open, he was never wide open when teams used to triple team Westbrook... ....

Nigga.. ain't nobody ever triple team Westbrook. :lol:

Love is garbage. DO NOT enter him into this discussion.
 
impossible to defend. The Cavs gambled their entire defense on helping w/ not worrying about Barnes over the last 3 games...who was essentially self-checked shooting 18 percent from the floor. That strategy would have been gone.
like i said if barnes shoots 40% the shit is ugly. that's all he needed to shoot on wide open shots lol
 
Right, so you Durant, who is the one of the greatest shooters of all time, can't be the kickout spot up guy on the team with the lead the league in ball movement?

And.. you can run screen and rolls with Klay, but not Durant. You can ran them with Curry, but not Durant. As a matter of fact, you can run even more with Durant because he can be the ball handler (unlike Klay).
I think you and others are confusing rhythm shooters with kick out catch and shoot guys... A kick out shooter was a Robert Horry, Steve Kerr, Ray Allen in his later years and is what Love is trying to become...
These guys are like safety valves only to be used in case of emergency, they sit back and wait to be productive only when needed, what so hard is they sometimes go ten min with out even touching the ball.. Yet when they do get it, its often in a big moment with out warming up..
A rhythm shooter is like Kobe, Wade, Curry, Thompson and Durant, players who needs a pattern or rhythm of shots and touches in order to be effective... Usually the more they shoot the better rhythm they are able to get into...
I was a rhythm shooter who had problem shooting with few touches...
 
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