Ricky Smiley is getting tired of you niggas

[shaddyvillethug]

P

i was talking to him and i meant nobody as in "ain't nobody even said all that" meaning myself, since the nigga quoted me when he said that.

also, don't let shaddy play you my boy lol put your glasses on.

this mad points thirsty lol

How am I playing him?

we shootings dice at the cook out talking shit wit Brews in our hand kicking the bo bo’s

you hearing what we saying
But not listening

 

[shaddyvillethug]

I'm trying to get you to keep it consistent.

You looking shifty. Let's stand on what we say and be clear about direction toward solutions.

Mind games

 

[cashwhisperer]

Be careful what u think

oooooooooowheeeeee!!!

Nigga I'm shivering!

 

[shaddyvillethug]

oooooooooowheeeeee!!!

Nigga I'm shivering!

For what?
I was just generally speaking

 

[sammyjax]

We tool up, we create networks of like-minded people in and around our communities, we relax our expectations in an attempt to work together (even if/when we don't agree), we get rid of the individualistic mindset about family, we establish boundaries and respect other's.

We let Ms. Gail down the street know she can call me if she don't feel safe, even though she know not to call me to cut her grass

Be ok with stopping and giving a neighbor's kid a ride a few blocks, it establishes a rapport. You know Raquel or Rickey when you see them and their people know who you are and they can trust you.

Stop telling on every gotdayum body.

If you see a suspicious vehicle, don't call police. Just go get ya shit and watch em.

Unless you scared, in which case you should go to church.

I don't know about you but I do all this already. And then some. And there's still crimes being committed. Because like you said there's always gon be criminals. Make up yo mind.

But you not willing to do it?
Learn how to talk to them niggas when they smoking in front of somebody door. Instead of going in the house calling 12

there it go again. you can't continue this exchange without making this false point. you stuck. idk if you can't drop this one or refuse to, but it looks like you are in need of somebody to have a different discussion with. STAY ON TASK.

nigga you saying misdemeanor shit! smoking weed on a porch? fuck is you on man? nigga I'm talking about CRIME.

Ok, I get it. You're not making the calls.

But you're complicit with other other people doing it (calling police)? Just as bad and the enemy of progress.

nigga do you know what complicit means? because that's not how you use that.

You imagining a reality in which we can operate totally outside the system. That's fantasy.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

there it go again. you can't continue this exchange without making this false point. you stuck. idk if you can't drop this one or refuse to, but it looks like you are in need of somebody to have a different discussion with. STAY ON TASK.


nigga do you know what complicit means? because that's not how you use that.

You imagining a reality in which we can operate totally outside the system. That's fantasy.

I looked up the definition

 

[sammyjax]

que'd


So I'm supposed to go have a talk with 30-year old nigga like this about protecting the community? instead of calling the police?

niggas are not serious.

 

[sammyjax]

P

How am I playing him?

we shootings dice at the cook out talking shit wit Brews in our hand kicking the bo bo’s

you hearing what we saying
But not listening

I'm listening to who I was talking to.

 

[cashwhisperer]

For what?
I was just generally speaking

you sure?

 

[cashwhisperer]

niggas are not serious.

?

 

[dHustla]

protected from who?

Protected from predators, violent criminals, and crimes of opportunity

 

[sammyjax]

?

the conversation that posits that you could've changed Stanley's 30 year old spirit if you woulda just caught him and talked to him as he was walking up to kill and rob that old man.

It's not really a serious conversation.

 

[dHustla]

que'd


So I'm supposed to go have a talk with 30-year old nigga like this about protecting the community? instead of calling the police?

Yea. Its doesn't have to be aggressive, every confrontation doesn't have to be physical. Just speak like a man, with respect.

The hands off approach is part of the problem & how we got here.

 

[cashwhisperer]

Why niggas think a racketeering charge is bullshit for niggas who CLEARLY and OVERTLY racketeer, AND to further sing songs about it for the purpose of showing off and gaining clout?

 

[cashwhisperer]

Yea. Its doesn't have to be aggressive, every confrontation doesn't have to be physical. Just speak like a man, with respect.

The hands off approach is part of the problem & how we got here.

bruh....

 

[dHustla]

there it go again. you can't continue this exchange without making this false point. you stuck. idk if you can't drop this one or refuse to, but it looks like you are in need of somebody to have a different discussion with. STAY ON TASK.

nigga you saying misdemeanor shit! smoking weed on a porch? fuck is you on man? nigga I'm talking about CRIME.


nigga do you know what complicit means? because that's not how you use that.

You imagining a reality in which we can operate totally outside the system. That's fantasy.

Some of those responses were before I read some of your posts, I read some of them out of order so if it seems like I go back to a prior point, overlook it.

Yea, complicit. You ok with the system working the way it was designed to.. to round up black folks.

You're right, I kinda see operating independent of the system as somewhat possible and part of the solution.

Fantasy, tho?

 

[sammyjax]

Why niggas think a racketeering charge is bullshit for niggas who CLEARLY and OVERTLY racketeer, AND to further sing songs about it for the purpose of showing off and gaining clout?

Money crime is ethically/morally ambiguous territory to me. Money shit is a game of how much do you know. I'm firmly against people stealing from people though.

If the racketeering charge is because he profited from rapping about some shit, I think that's bogus.

 

[cashwhisperer]

You ok with the system working the way it was designed to.. to round up black folks.

The niggas committing the crimes against Black people are okay with the system working the way it was designed to.. to round up black folks.

Some even see it as a badge of honor, street credibility and respect....until they get put in that cage.

 

[illdog]

Geniuses...really believe we can incarcerate our way out of the root causes of crime..poverty/unemployment/poor education...All the fruits of racism.?

 

[cashwhisperer]

Money crime is ethically/morally ambiguous territory to me. Money shit is a game of how much do you know. I'm firmly against people stealing from people though.

If the racketeering charge is because he profited from rapping about some shit, I think that's bogus.

I think we all agree it's bogus without any other evidence.

But according to the reports, they have a lot more evidence than rap lyrics. The lyrics are just the icing on the cake.

 

[sammyjax]

Some of those responses were before I read some of your posts, I read some of them out of order so if it seems like I go back to a prior point, overlook it.

Yea, complicit. You ok with the system working the way it was designed to.. to round up black folks.

You're right, I kinda see operating independent of the system as somewhat possible and part of the solution.

Fantasy, tho?

ok so that's not what complicit means. complicit means playing an active role in something. i just have an opinion on something. wisen up lol

you can't have a system that totally operates outside the system man. it's not possible. not in reality. it's nothing more than a thought exercise, aka imagining.

what does your community police force do when it encounters a nigga that raped and killed a baby?

 

[sammyjax]

I think we all agree it's bogus without any other evidence.

But according to the reports, they have a lot more evidence than rap lyrics. The lyrics are just the icing on the cake.

yeah the other shit, good luck niggas lol

but criminalizing lyrics is bs

 

[dHustla]

ok so that's not what complicit means. complicit means playing an active role in something. i just have an opinion on something. wisen up lol

Yea yea, that's what I meant

 

[cashwhisperer]

yeah the other shit, good luck niggas lol

but criminalizing lyrics is bs

Thing is, some movies are fiction and some movies are documentaries.

Rappers are rapping documentaries these days.

They should disclaim that their lyrics are based on factual events. Otherwise they leave themselves wide open.

 

[cashwhisperer]

Geniuses...really believe we can incarcerate our way out of the root causes of crime..poverty/unemployment/poor education...All the fruits of racism.?

Who said that? Nobody said prison is the answer to the solving poverty, unemployment and poor education. Nobody.

Two different conversations.

 

[Kaotic]

I wonder do these niggaz ever target rich honkie neighborhoods.

Those neighborhoods have paid armed security onsite...

 

[sammyjax]

Thing is, some movies are fiction and some movies are documentaries.

Rappers are rapping documentaries these days.

They should disclaim that their lyrics are based on factual events. Otherwise they leave themselves wide open.

astute observation. well said.

 

[sammyjax]

Who said that? Nobody said prison is the answer to the solving poverty, unemployment and poor education. Nobody.

Two different conversations.

this keeps happening.

 

[dHustla]

Who said that? Nobody said prison is the answer to the solving poverty, unemployment and poor education. Nobody.

Two different conversations.

Go up far enough and its the same conversation.

Crime is a symptom of poverty, poor education, and less opportunities. Then that same crime justifies police budgets & building more prisons to put the poor, undereducated in.

 

[cashwhisperer]

Go up far enough and its the same conversation.

Crime is a symptom of poverty, poor education, and less opportunities. Then that same crime justifies police budgets & building more prisons to put the poor, undereducated in.

Young Thug might be rich but his mind is stuck in poverty. I know the government created those conditions but does that mean he gets a pass to continue to commit and direct niggas to commit crimes? At 30 years old?

 

[dHustla]

you can't have a system that totally operates outside the system man. it's not possible. not in reality.

I don't believe that. I think we can do a lot more to be self sufficient, even operating within this fucked society. Independent doesn't mean outside the system, just not completely dependent upon it.

 

[sammyjax]

I don't believe that. I think we can do a lot more to be self sufficient, even operating within this fucked society. Independent doesn't mean outside the system, just not completely dependent upon it.

That's a sidestep g. You went general again.

That's why I keep saying this isn't a serious conversation and stay on task. We were specifically talking about having a community policing structure that operates and exists outside of the existing system. With this statement you just zoomed back out to philosophy.

Independent has a couple of definitions, one of which definitely means outside of and I still submit that whichever definition of independent you go with, it can't happen with regard to systems of law. Even a community full of D's Angel's has to interface with the existing legal/justice/law enforcement system at some point, and is bound to abide by "arbitrary white man's laws".

 

[dHustla]

Nawl, you wanna make it specific to community policing, I never once said that. I think its bigger than just that.

Although what initiated the conversation was my objection to relying on social services that were not designed for us & have never benefited black people. The solution, as I see it, should be on more than one front. We have to interact with each other better, communicate, have understanding, be patient, be willing and able to approach threats without running & telling. Keeping a community safe requires more than just an enforcer, which is part of the problem with policing now; it requires relationships, rapport, respect, presence. The shit you don't get from driving in your garage, closing the door, and looking out the window hoping niggas get locked up.

I understand your desire to simplify it and make it sound like I'm suggesting starting a cult, but thats not what I'm suggesting at all.

There are some neighborhoods in Atlanta that have their own security policing. They not calling po-po or wishing it on niggas by just having an opinion on it.

 

[TENT]

Lock them all up.
Turn prisons into ovens.
Smoke everyone like they did to the Jews.
I wonder if the pilot light is still lit in Auschwitz and Krakow?

 

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