atlanta today. in the middle of the highway
Beautiful
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
Police just executed an unarmed 17 yr old brotha (shot 10 times)
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Beautiful
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
Yup!
I’m just out here working hard every single day, just trying to be the best poster I can be....
I find this one funny....can't be true
"Walmart donates $10,000 to support Darren Wilson and the on going racist police murders #Ferguson #BoycottWalmart pic.twitter.com/lGRpvoleVO
2:26pm - 18 Oct 14"
someone could had donated under fake name (as walmart)
New report today reveals Mike Browns blood inside Wilsons vehicle and close range gunshot wounds in his hand. Basically this info may allow Officer Wilson off the hook and eliminate charges
Get ready for St Louis to blow a gasket
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/justice/ferguson-michael-brown-autopsy/index.html
Get ready for St Louis to blow a gasket
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/justice/ferguson-michael-brown-autopsy/index.html
"@ deray Mike Brown Official Autopsy Report Leaked. Must read. #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/111J6MnjUy
10:36pm - 21 Oct 14"
Official autopsy shows Michael Brown had close-range wound to his hand, marijuana in system
ST. LOUIS COUNTY • The official autopsy on Michael Brown shows that he was shot in the hand at close range, according to an analysis of the findings by two experts not involved directly in the case.
The accompanying toxicology report shows he had been using marijuana.
Those documents, prepared by the St. Louis County medical examiner and obtained by the Post-Dispatch, provide the most detailed description to date of the wounds Brown sustained in a confrontation Aug. 9 with Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson.
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A source with knowledge of Wilson’s statements said the officer had told investigators that Brown had struggled for Wilson’s pistol inside a police SUV and that Wilson had fired the gun twice, hitting Brown once in the hand. Later, Wilson fired additional shots that killed Brown and ignited a national controversy.
The St. Louis medical examiner, Dr. Michael Graham, who is not part of the official investigation, reviewed the autopsy report for the newspaper. He said Tuesday that it “does support that there was a significant altercation at the car.”
Graham said the examination indicated a shot traveled from the tip of Brown’s right thumb toward his wrist. The official report notes an absence of stippling, powder burns around a wound that indicate a shot fired at relatively short range.
But Graham said, “Sometimes when it’s really close, such as within an inch or so, there is no stipple, just smoke.”
The report on a supplemental microscopic exam of tissue from the thumb wound showed foreign matter “consistent with products that are discharged from the barrel of a firearm.”
Dr. Judy Melinek, a forensic pathologist in San Francisco, said the autopsy “supports the fact that this guy is reaching for the gun, if he has gunpowder particulate material in the wound.” She added, “If he has his hand near the gun when it goes off, he’s going for the officer’s gun.”
Sources told the Post-Dispatch that Brown’s blood had been found on Wilson’s gun.
Melinek also said the autopsy did not support witnesses who have claimed Brown was shot while running away from Wilson, or with his hands up.
She said Brown was facing Wilson when Brown took a shot to the forehead, two shots to the chest and a shot to the upper right arm. The wound to the top of Brown’s head would indicate he was falling forward or in a lunging position toward the shooter; the shot was instantly fatal.
A sixth shot that hit the forearm traveled from the back of the arm to the inner arm, which means Brown’s palms could not have been facing Wilson, as some witnesses have said, Melinek said. That trajectory shows Brown probably was not taking a standard surrender position with arms above the shoulders and palms out when he was hit, she said.
The county medical examiner, Dr. Mary Case, could not be reached. The assistant who performed the autopsy, Dr. Gershom Norfleet, relayed word that he would not comment.
That post mortem, conducted the morning after Brown’s death, comports in most ways with the findings of a private autopsy arranged by Brown’s family and made public Aug. 18.
In that one, Dr. Michael M. Baden, a nationally known forensic pathologist, said none of Brown’s wounds appeared to have been from shots fired at close range.
Baden noted then that there was no gunshot residue on the body, so it appeared to him that the muzzle of the weapon was at least one or two feet away. He said, “It could have been 30 feet away.”
A third autopsy was ordered by federal officials as part of their separate investigation of the shooting. Results of that one have not been revealed.
The county and private autopsies agree on the number and location of the wounds.
The official autopsy also confirmed that tissue from Brown was found on the exterior of the driver’s side of Wilson’s vehicle.
“Someone got an injury that tore off skin and left it on the car,” Graham said. “That fits with everything else that came out. There’s blood in the car, now skin on the car, that shows something happened right there.”
The toxicology test, performed by a St. Louis University laboratory, revealed tetrahydrocannabinol, THC for short, in Brown’s blood and urine.
Alfred Staubus, a consultant in forensic toxicology at the Ohio State University College of Pharmacy, said that THC could impair judgment or slow reaction times but that there was no reliable measurement to make those conclusions.
States that have legalized marijuana have struggled with the issue of how to measure impairment.
“The detection of THC in the postmortem blood of Michael Brown really indicates his recent use of marijuana (within a few hours) and that he may or may not have been impaired at the time of his death,” Staubus wrote in an email.
10:36pm - 21 Oct 14"
Official autopsy shows Michael Brown had close-range wound to his hand, marijuana in system
ST. LOUIS COUNTY • The official autopsy on Michael Brown shows that he was shot in the hand at close range, according to an analysis of the findings by two experts not involved directly in the case.
The accompanying toxicology report shows he had been using marijuana.
Those documents, prepared by the St. Louis County medical examiner and obtained by the Post-Dispatch, provide the most detailed description to date of the wounds Brown sustained in a confrontation Aug. 9 with Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson.
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A source with knowledge of Wilson’s statements said the officer had told investigators that Brown had struggled for Wilson’s pistol inside a police SUV and that Wilson had fired the gun twice, hitting Brown once in the hand. Later, Wilson fired additional shots that killed Brown and ignited a national controversy.
The St. Louis medical examiner, Dr. Michael Graham, who is not part of the official investigation, reviewed the autopsy report for the newspaper. He said Tuesday that it “does support that there was a significant altercation at the car.”
Graham said the examination indicated a shot traveled from the tip of Brown’s right thumb toward his wrist. The official report notes an absence of stippling, powder burns around a wound that indicate a shot fired at relatively short range.
But Graham said, “Sometimes when it’s really close, such as within an inch or so, there is no stipple, just smoke.”
The report on a supplemental microscopic exam of tissue from the thumb wound showed foreign matter “consistent with products that are discharged from the barrel of a firearm.”
Dr. Judy Melinek, a forensic pathologist in San Francisco, said the autopsy “supports the fact that this guy is reaching for the gun, if he has gunpowder particulate material in the wound.” She added, “If he has his hand near the gun when it goes off, he’s going for the officer’s gun.”
Sources told the Post-Dispatch that Brown’s blood had been found on Wilson’s gun.
Melinek also said the autopsy did not support witnesses who have claimed Brown was shot while running away from Wilson, or with his hands up.
She said Brown was facing Wilson when Brown took a shot to the forehead, two shots to the chest and a shot to the upper right arm. The wound to the top of Brown’s head would indicate he was falling forward or in a lunging position toward the shooter; the shot was instantly fatal.
A sixth shot that hit the forearm traveled from the back of the arm to the inner arm, which means Brown’s palms could not have been facing Wilson, as some witnesses have said, Melinek said. That trajectory shows Brown probably was not taking a standard surrender position with arms above the shoulders and palms out when he was hit, she said.
The county medical examiner, Dr. Mary Case, could not be reached. The assistant who performed the autopsy, Dr. Gershom Norfleet, relayed word that he would not comment.
That post mortem, conducted the morning after Brown’s death, comports in most ways with the findings of a private autopsy arranged by Brown’s family and made public Aug. 18.
In that one, Dr. Michael M. Baden, a nationally known forensic pathologist, said none of Brown’s wounds appeared to have been from shots fired at close range.
Baden noted then that there was no gunshot residue on the body, so it appeared to him that the muzzle of the weapon was at least one or two feet away. He said, “It could have been 30 feet away.”
A third autopsy was ordered by federal officials as part of their separate investigation of the shooting. Results of that one have not been revealed.
The county and private autopsies agree on the number and location of the wounds.
The official autopsy also confirmed that tissue from Brown was found on the exterior of the driver’s side of Wilson’s vehicle.
“Someone got an injury that tore off skin and left it on the car,” Graham said. “That fits with everything else that came out. There’s blood in the car, now skin on the car, that shows something happened right there.”
The toxicology test, performed by a St. Louis University laboratory, revealed tetrahydrocannabinol, THC for short, in Brown’s blood and urine.
Alfred Staubus, a consultant in forensic toxicology at the Ohio State University College of Pharmacy, said that THC could impair judgment or slow reaction times but that there was no reliable measurement to make those conclusions.
States that have legalized marijuana have struggled with the issue of how to measure impairment.
“The detection of THC in the postmortem blood of Michael Brown really indicates his recent use of marijuana (within a few hours) and that he may or may not have been impaired at the time of his death,” Staubus wrote in an email.
Evidence supports officer’s account of shooting in Ferguson
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...38c7b4-5964-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html
So this is a play . . . some, " Secret " African Americans support Wilson's account of the encounter.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...38c7b4-5964-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html
So this is a play . . . some, " Secret " African Americans support Wilson's account of the encounter.
The fix is in now I guess. Wilson is definitely not getting charged.
Justice Department condemns Ferguson leaks as effort to influence opinion
With a grand jury decision looming on whether a white police officer should face charges in the killing of an unarmed black 18-year-old in Ferguson, Mo., the investigation has sprung a few leaks.
New details from the inquiry into Michael Brown’s Aug. 9 death — all provided by unidentified sources and which seem to support Officer Darren Wilson’s story of what happened that day — have emerged in St. Louis and national news outlets in recent days.
The U.S. Department of Justice condemned the leaks Wednesday as “irresponsible and highly troubling” and said, “There seems to be an inappropriate effort to influence public opinion about this case.”
The details and news reports say that Brown struggled with Wilson in his patrol car and that Wilson’s gun went off in the car before a brief foot chase ensued.
There's really nothing to investigate. We don't have control over anybody leaking anything. - Ed Magee, spokesman for the St. Louis County prosecutor's office
Wilson ultimately shot Brown several times, and Brown’s body lay in the street for more than four hours, kindling a rage on the streets of Ferguson and St. Louis that has yet to wholly subside.
The leaks seemed to create a fresh rupture in trust with black St. Louis-area officials and protesters, who said Wednesday that they were upset with what they saw as another breakdown in the justice system because information from the supposedly secret grand jury continued to appear in the media. The grand jury’s decision is expected in November.
“There is no way there should be reports from all these anonymous sources and these ‘leaks’ ....This is supposed to play out in the courts and the justice system, and not the media,” said Patricia Bynes, a Ferguson resident and prominent voice in the protest movement. Quoting a popular chant, she added, “The whole damn system is guilty as hell.”
The New York Times reported that investigators found Brown’s blood on Wilson’s gun, on the interior door panel of Wilson’s car and on Wilson’s uniform.
The Washington Post reported that several black witnesses had provided details in secret grand jury testimony that supported Wilson’s account.
And the official autopsy report, obtained by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, showed a gunshot wound to Brown’s hand that appeared to be from close range. That seemed to support the officer’s account that there was a struggle for his gun inside his patrol car.
According to the preliminary police account, which was included in the autopsy report, the confrontation began when Wilson spotted Brown and a friend walking in the street:
Wilson “observed the two individuals, he requested that they get out of the roadway. The deceased became belligerent towards Officer Wilson.
“As Officer Wilson attempted to exit out of his patrol vehicle the deceased pushed his door shut and began to struggle with Officer Wilson, during the struggle the Officers weapon was un-holstered. The weapon discharged during the struggle.
“The deceased then ran down the roadway. Officer Wilson then began to chase the deceased. As he was giving chase to the deceased, the deceased turned around and ran towards officer Wilson.
“Officer Wilson had his service weapon drawn, as the deceased began to run towards him, he discharged his service weapon several times.”
Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Brown’s family, said he was not surprised by the autopsy report’s details.
“Several independent witnesses indicated there was a brief altercation between Michael Brown and Officer Wilson at the patrol car,” Crump said in a statement. “What we want to know is why Officer Wilson shot Michael Brown multiple times and killed him even though he was more than 20 feet away from his patrol car; this is the crux of the matter!”
But other activists and St. Louis-area officials saw the leaks as the crux of the matter, deriding news outlets for reporting the leaked information and investigative officials for leaking it.
“A non-transparent grand jury process and a leaky investigation is not the way the outcome of this important case should be determined,” tweeted St. Louis Alderman Antonio French, who participated in many Ferguson demonstrations. “These leaks do not help restore people's faith in the justice system. Quite the opposite.”
St. Louis County prosecutor’s office spokesman Ed Magee said his office probably wouldn’t investigate the leaks because prosecutors could not force journalists to divulge their sources and because the information could be coming from federal officials in Washington.
“There’s really nothing to investigate,” Magee said Wednesday. “We don’t have control over anybody leaking anything. All we can control is people in our office and the grand jury, and it’s not coming from us or the grand jury.”
He said that “you can tell by the information they have” that the leaks are not coming from the grand jury or the prosecutor’s office, citing reports using sourcing language such as “officials briefed on the investigation.”
“We’ve got a joint investigation going on [with federal officials], so we’re sharing information and we’ve been sharing information the whole time,” Magee said.
A Justice Department spokeswoman responded in a statement to the Los Angeles Times: “The department considers the selective release of information in this investigation to be irresponsible and highly troubling. Since the release of the convenience-store footage, there seems to be an inappropriate effort to influence public opinion about this case.”
The reference to the convenience-store footage alluded to a video released by Ferguson police on the same day they disclosed Wilson's identity. The video showed Brown apparently intimidating a store clerk shortly before the shooting.
Chris King, managing editor of the St. Louis American, a newspaper for black audiences, said law enforcement officials had offered him the leaks, saying “they had been briefed on the evidence and it didn't look good for Michael Brown supporters,” but he declined and decried “third-party hearsay” in an editorial for the paper.
“Tensions are so high that preparations for riots, if Wilson walks free, are discussed in sober terms in local and national media and on street corners,” the American said in its editorial. “The editors of these powerful publications have shown a lapse in judgment and ethics that is not only shameful, but actually dangerous. We declare a mistrial in the court of public opinion.”
With a grand jury decision looming on whether a white police officer should face charges in the killing of an unarmed black 18-year-old in Ferguson, Mo., the investigation has sprung a few leaks.
New details from the inquiry into Michael Brown’s Aug. 9 death — all provided by unidentified sources and which seem to support Officer Darren Wilson’s story of what happened that day — have emerged in St. Louis and national news outlets in recent days.
The U.S. Department of Justice condemned the leaks Wednesday as “irresponsible and highly troubling” and said, “There seems to be an inappropriate effort to influence public opinion about this case.”
The details and news reports say that Brown struggled with Wilson in his patrol car and that Wilson’s gun went off in the car before a brief foot chase ensued.
There's really nothing to investigate. We don't have control over anybody leaking anything. - Ed Magee, spokesman for the St. Louis County prosecutor's office
Wilson ultimately shot Brown several times, and Brown’s body lay in the street for more than four hours, kindling a rage on the streets of Ferguson and St. Louis that has yet to wholly subside.
The leaks seemed to create a fresh rupture in trust with black St. Louis-area officials and protesters, who said Wednesday that they were upset with what they saw as another breakdown in the justice system because information from the supposedly secret grand jury continued to appear in the media. The grand jury’s decision is expected in November.
“There is no way there should be reports from all these anonymous sources and these ‘leaks’ ....This is supposed to play out in the courts and the justice system, and not the media,” said Patricia Bynes, a Ferguson resident and prominent voice in the protest movement. Quoting a popular chant, she added, “The whole damn system is guilty as hell.”
The New York Times reported that investigators found Brown’s blood on Wilson’s gun, on the interior door panel of Wilson’s car and on Wilson’s uniform.
The Washington Post reported that several black witnesses had provided details in secret grand jury testimony that supported Wilson’s account.
And the official autopsy report, obtained by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, showed a gunshot wound to Brown’s hand that appeared to be from close range. That seemed to support the officer’s account that there was a struggle for his gun inside his patrol car.
According to the preliminary police account, which was included in the autopsy report, the confrontation began when Wilson spotted Brown and a friend walking in the street:
Wilson “observed the two individuals, he requested that they get out of the roadway. The deceased became belligerent towards Officer Wilson.
“As Officer Wilson attempted to exit out of his patrol vehicle the deceased pushed his door shut and began to struggle with Officer Wilson, during the struggle the Officers weapon was un-holstered. The weapon discharged during the struggle.
“The deceased then ran down the roadway. Officer Wilson then began to chase the deceased. As he was giving chase to the deceased, the deceased turned around and ran towards officer Wilson.
“Officer Wilson had his service weapon drawn, as the deceased began to run towards him, he discharged his service weapon several times.”
Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Brown’s family, said he was not surprised by the autopsy report’s details.
“Several independent witnesses indicated there was a brief altercation between Michael Brown and Officer Wilson at the patrol car,” Crump said in a statement. “What we want to know is why Officer Wilson shot Michael Brown multiple times and killed him even though he was more than 20 feet away from his patrol car; this is the crux of the matter!”
But other activists and St. Louis-area officials saw the leaks as the crux of the matter, deriding news outlets for reporting the leaked information and investigative officials for leaking it.
“A non-transparent grand jury process and a leaky investigation is not the way the outcome of this important case should be determined,” tweeted St. Louis Alderman Antonio French, who participated in many Ferguson demonstrations. “These leaks do not help restore people's faith in the justice system. Quite the opposite.”
St. Louis County prosecutor’s office spokesman Ed Magee said his office probably wouldn’t investigate the leaks because prosecutors could not force journalists to divulge their sources and because the information could be coming from federal officials in Washington.
“There’s really nothing to investigate,” Magee said Wednesday. “We don’t have control over anybody leaking anything. All we can control is people in our office and the grand jury, and it’s not coming from us or the grand jury.”
He said that “you can tell by the information they have” that the leaks are not coming from the grand jury or the prosecutor’s office, citing reports using sourcing language such as “officials briefed on the investigation.”
“We’ve got a joint investigation going on [with federal officials], so we’re sharing information and we’ve been sharing information the whole time,” Magee said.
A Justice Department spokeswoman responded in a statement to the Los Angeles Times: “The department considers the selective release of information in this investigation to be irresponsible and highly troubling. Since the release of the convenience-store footage, there seems to be an inappropriate effort to influence public opinion about this case.”
The reference to the convenience-store footage alluded to a video released by Ferguson police on the same day they disclosed Wilson's identity. The video showed Brown apparently intimidating a store clerk shortly before the shooting.
Chris King, managing editor of the St. Louis American, a newspaper for black audiences, said law enforcement officials had offered him the leaks, saying “they had been briefed on the evidence and it didn't look good for Michael Brown supporters,” but he declined and decried “third-party hearsay” in an editorial for the paper.
“Tensions are so high that preparations for riots, if Wilson walks free, are discussed in sober terms in local and national media and on street corners,” the American said in its editorial. “The editors of these powerful publications have shown a lapse in judgment and ethics that is not only shameful, but actually dangerous. We declare a mistrial in the court of public opinion.”
Yes this is strange like a play with actors and all. If things were like they said they would have presented that from jump and their never would have been no protesting. And yes our lives are on the line. Not just Ferguson. We are on deck where ever we are. It is just a matter of time. Here in Alabama southern values still rule with a heavy hand. All the money is going into the hands of the oppressor and these whites use that money to make white supremacy have a stronger hold.
To continue on without trying to organize and also work to be able to protect yourself. Would be like suicide.
There is not statue of limitations on murder. They could charge officer Wilson at any time. But they are very determined to have him rewarded for what he did. I tell you, something is going on that we might not be able to see with the human eye. If Obama had killed Mike Brown he would not have gotten the cover up and protection that Wilson had gotten. And Wilson was a nobody until this shooting had happened. There are some hidden forces behind this.
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
To continue on without trying to organize and also work to be able to protect yourself. Would be like suicide.
There is not statue of limitations on murder. They could charge officer Wilson at any time. But they are very determined to have him rewarded for what he did. I tell you, something is going on that we might not be able to see with the human eye. If Obama had killed Mike Brown he would not have gotten the cover up and protection that Wilson had gotten. And Wilson was a nobody until this shooting had happened. There are some hidden forces behind this.
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
Da fix is in & has been in.Man this shit aint adding up
Yep. He's walkin' away scot free.
seven or eight Black witnesses....man get the fuck out of here with that shit.
we as citizens of this country have absolutely NO protection for our lives from ANYONE.
local police, federal problem. Fuck all those powers that be that are sitting watching idle, by why we are getting mowed down one by one
we as citizens of this country have absolutely NO protection for our lives from ANYONE.
local police, federal problem. Fuck all those powers that be that are sitting watching idle, by why we are getting mowed down one by one
This is fucking crazy. Man WTF. So which forensic pathologist is better skilled? Because to my understanding is that there was no gun powder residue on Mike's hands and now this most recent autopsy show's that there was. Did they plant it? The contradicting statements by the chief of police. I mean WTF!!!
So let me guess their strategy is to release the results of the Grand jury right around the midterm elections. Our people react and they shut down the voting booths due to "looting and rioting" so they stay in power. Fuck the whole system. I've been pacing myself on the information intake bc of how angry all of this continues to make me, but there's ignoring it.
seven or eight Black witnesses....man get the fuck out of here with that shit.
we as citizens of this country have absolutely NO protection for our lives from ANYONE.
local police, federal problem. Fuck all those powers that be that are sitting watching idle, by why we are getting mowed down one by one
Have to actively build the economy.
I hate to say this at a time like this. But Elijah Muhammad warned us a long time ago. I myself am working to break the control and to break the spells and curses the world has been under every since the white devils emerged and came to power.
But if they do blacks a certain way and blacks continue to follow them they can only feel that blacks liked being treated that way.
For around 2 years I have had an old piece of a web site. But I have been working on building a nation for blacks here in the dirty south. And building a real black house. Right now I am going to finally start trying to do something with the site. Make changes and finally move to a more premium site after I learn more. So far I have not got any responses from the site. And I will continue to work on my own. I can understand people not responding to something they have never heard before or something that has no power and cannot provide jobs for the people they want to target.
There are 2 sides to every story. We have had many generations of only listening to the enemy. Everything blacks know, white told them. Or allowed them to know it. It is the hidden things that are important right now.
In this case right now I do not know what to say. But this case is a great show of white supremacy. I have seen white dudes here in the dirty south that will do you wrong, and then scream at you so what are you going to do about it. And why do they have the great power to do that when they are in a position to really fuck you up. Like something pulled you into this to be practice to what they want to do to you. Like a boxer getting a human to work out on instead of a heavy bag. And we know at one time martial artists, boxers, etc would work out on people that were given to them. And these people were given to them because they were following Jesus. Russia use to do this. America do what they claim other countries do. Only in America it is hidden and the rituals are not seen by the unlearned eye.
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
But if they do blacks a certain way and blacks continue to follow them they can only feel that blacks liked being treated that way.
For around 2 years I have had an old piece of a web site. But I have been working on building a nation for blacks here in the dirty south. And building a real black house. Right now I am going to finally start trying to do something with the site. Make changes and finally move to a more premium site after I learn more. So far I have not got any responses from the site. And I will continue to work on my own. I can understand people not responding to something they have never heard before or something that has no power and cannot provide jobs for the people they want to target.
There are 2 sides to every story. We have had many generations of only listening to the enemy. Everything blacks know, white told them. Or allowed them to know it. It is the hidden things that are important right now.
In this case right now I do not know what to say. But this case is a great show of white supremacy. I have seen white dudes here in the dirty south that will do you wrong, and then scream at you so what are you going to do about it. And why do they have the great power to do that when they are in a position to really fuck you up. Like something pulled you into this to be practice to what they want to do to you. Like a boxer getting a human to work out on instead of a heavy bag. And we know at one time martial artists, boxers, etc would work out on people that were given to them. And these people were given to them because they were following Jesus. Russia use to do this. America do what they claim other countries do. Only in America it is hidden and the rituals are not seen by the unlearned eye.
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
Every time I come in this thread
I get so fucking Mads
I get so fucking Mads
@deray McCulloch said that all the grand jury info would come out if there was a no-indictment. And here we are. #Ferguson
6:41am - 23 Oct 14
@tjsmith59 Replied @deray Per NYT,leaks from FBI. Not sure where all the rest R coming from.Many depts involved,could be anyone.
6:41am - 23 Oct 14
@tjsmith59 Replied @deray Per NYT,leaks from FBI. Not sure where all the rest R coming from.Many depts involved,could be anyone.
Justice Department Condemns Leaks In Michael Brown Case As Attempt To 'Influence Public'
The Justice Department condemned a series of leaks from the investigation into the shooting of Michael Brown by a police officer in Ferguson, Mo., The Los Angeles Times reported. The death of the unarmed black teenager on Aug. 9 sparked weeks of protests and a national debate over police tactics.
The leaks from the official inquiry into the shooting appear to support the account of the incident given by Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, that he and Brown struggled, and that he opened fire when Brown allegedly reached for his gun.
An unnamed Justice Department spokeswoman called the leaks "irresponsible and highly troubling" and said, "There seems to be an inappropriate effort to influence public opinion about this case," the Times reported.
An unidentified Justice Department official also told The Huffington Post's Ryan J. Reilly that Attorney General Eric Holder is "exasperated" by the apparent "selective leaks," in the case.
The leak of sensitive details about the official investigation have come from unnamed sources, and all seem to corroborate Wilson's account of what happened, that Brown attacked him in his car.
Unnamed government officials told The New York Times that Brown's blood was found on Wilson and on the interior of the police car, suggesting that at least some of the shots fired at Brown were at close range.
An official autopsy report obtained by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch revealed that Brown was shot in the hand at close range. The Post-Dispatch's report also cited experts not affiliated with the case who posited the findings suggest there was an altercation in the police car and that Brown was going for the officer's gun.
On Wednesday, unnamed sources told The Washington Post that seven or eight black witnesses have given testimony before a grand jury deciding whether to indict Wilson that was "consistent" with the officer's account. The witnesses have not gone public with their accounts for fear of their safety.
Other witnesses who have gone public about what they saw claim Brown was attempting to surrender when Wilson fired the fatal shots.
The release of the autopsy details was met with criticism by Ferguson officials and protesters; they say they're concerned that leaks from what is supposed to be a secret grand jury investigation indicate justice may be in jeopardy.
Ferguson resident and protester Patricia Byrnes told the Los Angeles Times, "There is no way there should be reports from all these anonymous sources and these 'leaks' ... This is supposed to play out in the courts and the justice system, and not the media," adding, "The whole damn system is guilty as hell."
St. Louis Alderman Antonio French, a prominent voice in the months following the incident, tweeted, "A non-transparent grand jury process and a leaky investigation is not the way the outcome of this important case should be determined."
Some protesters said they believe the leaks are intended to ready the public for the possibility that the grand jury will decide not to indict Wilson.
That decision is expected in November.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/23/justice-department-leaks-michael-brown_n_6032494.html
The Justice Department condemned a series of leaks from the investigation into the shooting of Michael Brown by a police officer in Ferguson, Mo., The Los Angeles Times reported. The death of the unarmed black teenager on Aug. 9 sparked weeks of protests and a national debate over police tactics.
The leaks from the official inquiry into the shooting appear to support the account of the incident given by Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, that he and Brown struggled, and that he opened fire when Brown allegedly reached for his gun.
An unnamed Justice Department spokeswoman called the leaks "irresponsible and highly troubling" and said, "There seems to be an inappropriate effort to influence public opinion about this case," the Times reported.
An unidentified Justice Department official also told The Huffington Post's Ryan J. Reilly that Attorney General Eric Holder is "exasperated" by the apparent "selective leaks," in the case.
The leak of sensitive details about the official investigation have come from unnamed sources, and all seem to corroborate Wilson's account of what happened, that Brown attacked him in his car.
Unnamed government officials told The New York Times that Brown's blood was found on Wilson and on the interior of the police car, suggesting that at least some of the shots fired at Brown were at close range.
An official autopsy report obtained by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch revealed that Brown was shot in the hand at close range. The Post-Dispatch's report also cited experts not affiliated with the case who posited the findings suggest there was an altercation in the police car and that Brown was going for the officer's gun.
On Wednesday, unnamed sources told The Washington Post that seven or eight black witnesses have given testimony before a grand jury deciding whether to indict Wilson that was "consistent" with the officer's account. The witnesses have not gone public with their accounts for fear of their safety.
Other witnesses who have gone public about what they saw claim Brown was attempting to surrender when Wilson fired the fatal shots.
The release of the autopsy details was met with criticism by Ferguson officials and protesters; they say they're concerned that leaks from what is supposed to be a secret grand jury investigation indicate justice may be in jeopardy.
Ferguson resident and protester Patricia Byrnes told the Los Angeles Times, "There is no way there should be reports from all these anonymous sources and these 'leaks' ... This is supposed to play out in the courts and the justice system, and not the media," adding, "The whole damn system is guilty as hell."
St. Louis Alderman Antonio French, a prominent voice in the months following the incident, tweeted, "A non-transparent grand jury process and a leaky investigation is not the way the outcome of this important case should be determined."
Some protesters said they believe the leaks are intended to ready the public for the possibility that the grand jury will decide not to indict Wilson.
That decision is expected in November.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/23/justice-department-leaks-michael-brown_n_6032494.html
Darren Wilson’s lawyer speaks out on leaked Brown autopsy
After details from an official autopsy on Michael Brown were exposed to reporters, legal counsel for the Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed the slain teen, spoke out for the first time since the investigation, saying “we were not responsible for any leaks to any media including those published in the NY Times and the St. Louis Post Dispatch.”
The Thursday morning statement went on to say: “Further, we are not in possession of any of the disclosed reports or the investigative report. Finally, as long as the Grand Jury continues to meet and the Department of Justice continues to investigate, any commentary on this matter should only be done in the appropriate judicial venue and not through the media.”
Hours after the details were published – which could bolster his killer’s claim of self-defense – one of the experts whose analysis was central to those claims told msnbc that her analysis of the findings had been taken out of context.
“You cannot interpret autopsy reports in a vacuum. You need to do it in the context of the scene, the investigation and the witness statements,” Dr. Judy Melinek said. “Sometimes when you take things out of context they can be more inflammatory.”
The report, obtained and published by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on Wednesday, provides the most detailed account of Brown’s injuries from the Aug. 9 shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, in which police officer Darren Wilson fatally shot the unarmed teen.
The findings align closely with an autopsy performed at the request of Brown’s family in late August, indicating Brown had been shot at least six times and suffered wounds to the head, upper body, arm and hand. This latest report indicates Brown suffered six entry wounds and three exit wounds.
But there is one key difference in the two reports – a discrepancy that could likely shape the perception of the events that led to Wilson’s killing of Brown.
The private autopsy, conducted by renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden, found that Brown’s wounds, including a wound to his right hand, suggested Wilson had been one foot to 30 feet away when he shot Brown – a distance not considered close range.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/forensic-expert-says-michael-brown-autopsy
After details from an official autopsy on Michael Brown were exposed to reporters, legal counsel for the Darren Wilson, the officer who shot and killed the slain teen, spoke out for the first time since the investigation, saying “we were not responsible for any leaks to any media including those published in the NY Times and the St. Louis Post Dispatch.”
The Thursday morning statement went on to say: “Further, we are not in possession of any of the disclosed reports or the investigative report. Finally, as long as the Grand Jury continues to meet and the Department of Justice continues to investigate, any commentary on this matter should only be done in the appropriate judicial venue and not through the media.”
Hours after the details were published – which could bolster his killer’s claim of self-defense – one of the experts whose analysis was central to those claims told msnbc that her analysis of the findings had been taken out of context.
“You cannot interpret autopsy reports in a vacuum. You need to do it in the context of the scene, the investigation and the witness statements,” Dr. Judy Melinek said. “Sometimes when you take things out of context they can be more inflammatory.”
The report, obtained and published by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on Wednesday, provides the most detailed account of Brown’s injuries from the Aug. 9 shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, in which police officer Darren Wilson fatally shot the unarmed teen.
The findings align closely with an autopsy performed at the request of Brown’s family in late August, indicating Brown had been shot at least six times and suffered wounds to the head, upper body, arm and hand. This latest report indicates Brown suffered six entry wounds and three exit wounds.
But there is one key difference in the two reports – a discrepancy that could likely shape the perception of the events that led to Wilson’s killing of Brown.
The private autopsy, conducted by renowned forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden, found that Brown’s wounds, including a wound to his right hand, suggested Wilson had been one foot to 30 feet away when he shot Brown – a distance not considered close range.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/forensic-expert-says-michael-brown-autopsy
yea...i wouldnt doubt it if one of those "folks" whos been hating Walmart for some other reason used their name.
Walmart/SAM aint about to fuck over that money they get from millions of Black folks over this bs.
Justice Department "MIGHT" have the final laugh...
Judge Dismisses Police Lawsuit Claiming A Right To Use Excessive Force
Chief U.S. District Judge Marsha Pechman has summarily dismissed a lawsuit filed by Seattle police officers who claim they have a Constitutional right to use as much force as they deem is warranted.
A few years ago, the U.S. Department of Justice investigated the Seattle Police Department after several high-profile incidents of excessive force. The investigation concluded that Seattle officers used excessive force about 20% of the time. In several instances, they pushed and beat suspects simply because they were disrespected, sometimes, even when officers had the subject in handcuffs.
The city came to an agreement with the Justice Department, and in 2013 they instituted new a use of force policy that defined “force” as “any physical coercion by an officer.” It requires all instances of force to be reported to a supervisor. It also requires officers to attempt to de-escalate a situation before resorting to force.
About 125 Seattle police officers - around ten percent of the Seattle police force - took issue with the new use of force rules and filed a federal lawsuit. The officers claim they have a Constitutional right, under both the Second and Fourth Amendments, to use as much force as they deem necessary in a given situation. The lawsuit calls DOJ’s findings on instances of excessive force “highly suspect” and rejects the idea of treating the mentally ill differently. The suit also asserts that police have a stand-your-ground type right not to have to attempt to de-escalate a situation before using deadly force.
According to the lawsuit police believe that their use of force by police is protected as self-defense:
“regardless of whether or not there existed less intrusive means, or alternatives to self-defense or defense of others, such as inflicting a less serious injury to, retreating from, or containing, or negotiating with a suspect".
This week, Chief U.S. District Judge Marsha Pechman summarily dismissed the police suit, ruling that it was without merit. Judge Pechman pointed out that the Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms - not the right to use them - and that the officers “grossly misconstrued” the Fourth Amendment when they claimed that it protects them, and not individuals who would be the subjects of excessive police force.
Athan Tramountanas, one of the lawyers who represented the officers expressed disappointment in the ruling, writing:
"My clients are disappointed in today's ruling, but remain resolute in their belief that the new use of force policy unreasonably restricts their ability to defend themselves and perform their jobs in a manner that best keeps themselves and the public safe."
There is no word yet whether the officers will appeal.
Judge Dismisses Police Lawsuit Claiming A Right To Use Excessive Force
Chief U.S. District Judge Marsha Pechman has summarily dismissed a lawsuit filed by Seattle police officers who claim they have a Constitutional right to use as much force as they deem is warranted.
A few years ago, the U.S. Department of Justice investigated the Seattle Police Department after several high-profile incidents of excessive force. The investigation concluded that Seattle officers used excessive force about 20% of the time. In several instances, they pushed and beat suspects simply because they were disrespected, sometimes, even when officers had the subject in handcuffs.
The city came to an agreement with the Justice Department, and in 2013 they instituted new a use of force policy that defined “force” as “any physical coercion by an officer.” It requires all instances of force to be reported to a supervisor. It also requires officers to attempt to de-escalate a situation before resorting to force.
About 125 Seattle police officers - around ten percent of the Seattle police force - took issue with the new use of force rules and filed a federal lawsuit. The officers claim they have a Constitutional right, under both the Second and Fourth Amendments, to use as much force as they deem necessary in a given situation. The lawsuit calls DOJ’s findings on instances of excessive force “highly suspect” and rejects the idea of treating the mentally ill differently. The suit also asserts that police have a stand-your-ground type right not to have to attempt to de-escalate a situation before using deadly force.
According to the lawsuit police believe that their use of force by police is protected as self-defense:
“regardless of whether or not there existed less intrusive means, or alternatives to self-defense or defense of others, such as inflicting a less serious injury to, retreating from, or containing, or negotiating with a suspect".
This week, Chief U.S. District Judge Marsha Pechman summarily dismissed the police suit, ruling that it was without merit. Judge Pechman pointed out that the Second Amendment protects the right to bear arms - not the right to use them - and that the officers “grossly misconstrued” the Fourth Amendment when they claimed that it protects them, and not individuals who would be the subjects of excessive police force.
Athan Tramountanas, one of the lawyers who represented the officers expressed disappointment in the ruling, writing:
"My clients are disappointed in today's ruling, but remain resolute in their belief that the new use of force policy unreasonably restricts their ability to defend themselves and perform their jobs in a manner that best keeps themselves and the public safe."
There is no word yet whether the officers will appeal.
yep if they make the announcement on the eve of the election. everyone gets to protesting, the police shut down the city and declare martial law...nobody goes to the polls to vote the CACs outta office on Tuesday.
I thought the gun was a last resort? That's worse than the dudes that come back and shoot up the playground after they lose a game. You don't need to be a cop if you aren't a dominating physical presence.
