Official NBA 2016-2017 Thread - 30 teams, 1 goal. 2 weeks left, so much can happen!!

[RoadRage]

They wanted JR and was ready to pay if whatever. They looking for a gunner to go with those big bodies, shit they even contact Manu.

Getting JR or Manu would be a mistake for them, because about time they are ready to make noise those players will be past their time... One thing the 76ers have on their side is time, and with time you can draft and develop your own players and if they don't pan out in three years you cut them, then you sign a vet.

 

[Mask]

Getting JR or Manu would be a mistake for them, because about time they are ready to make noise those players will be past their time... One thing the 76ers have on their side is time, and with time you can draft and develop your own players and if they don't pan out in three years you cut them, then you sign a vet.

Well they haven't been panning out so it was time to add a vet to that group.

Man these cats been rebuild since AI 2.0 left.

You noticed they traded after 2 weeks, got rid of a young player and bought in someone who's been around for a few years and plays hard nightly.

 

[Mask]

Hornacek's rotation gamble leads to big win for Knicks

Nov 1, 2016; Auburn Hills, MI, USA; New York Knicks head coach Jeff Hornacek during the third quarter against the Detroit Pistons at The Palace of Auburn Hills. Tim Fuller-USA TODAY Sports


I thank the basketball gods every time the Knicks play on ESPN and Hubie Brown is doing the analysis.

After the Knicks got out to an incredible start, something that has been extremely important to their two early victories, Brown lamented that it was imperative the Knicks' second unit "keep scoring" as he predicted a big second quarter for the Bulls. Sure enough, the Bulls quickly outscored the Knicks reserves leading to outscoring them 34-24 in the quarter thus taking a 57-56 lead into halftime after the Knicks led as many as 16.

As the first units went back and forth in the third, Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek had a very difficult decision to make. His team had been playing its third game in four nights under the spotlight of injury questions to their most important players. They were also on the verge of going 1-4, a disastrous way to start the season with a Sunday matinee game against the Utah Jazz staring them in the face as well.

So Hornacek gambled.

"We played our guys quite a bit tonight as far as minutes," Hornacek told reporters after the game. "But it's early in the season and we needed to get a win."

With the Knicks up three points starting the 4th quarter, Hornacek went back to Kristaps Porzingis, who had been sitting since 6 minutes remaining in the 3rd, and paired him with Brandon Jennings, Joakim Noah,Courtney Lee and Justin Holiday, keepingMaurice Ndour and Kyle O'Quinn on the bench.

The bet paid off immediately as the Knicks, behind seven quick Porzingis points, ran off 10 straight points to take a 94-81 lead, which forced the Bulls into a time out.

"We reacted quick when there was a mismatch," Porzingis said after the game. "A lot of times they switched on me with a guard and they gave it to me and I was able to attack and had good spacing. We got easy baskets from that."

That aggressive rotation adjustment put more pressure on his first unit, but it allowed for the separation ability that we haven't seen from this team during the Phil Jackson era.

"KP is a great shooter and when he made shots he was running lanes," Hornacek said. "I thought Brandon Jennings did a great job running and attacking and getting easy buckets."

Moreover, Hornacek went back to Derrick Rose at 9:24 of the fourth and Carmelo Anthony at 7:24 and the combination was able to sustain the lead and ultimately close out what was a critical 117-104 win in the Windy City.

While the Knicks bench continues to be an issue, particularly scoring the basketball, Knicks fans probably feel good seeing that Hornacek isn't afraid to make adjustments. Especially game-changing decisions that result in big road victories against quality opponents.

 

[Mack1052]

YOU???

That man doesn't know pain when it comes to Seeing Williams

 

[Complex]

Them injuries did him in

He was weak mentally also. We saw that when he went to a big market.

It ain't like he had DRose injuries.

 

[Complex]

The 76ers would be fools to trade anyone now.. Folks be thinking the 6ers are just bullshiting not trying to get better, but in reality they have a master plan that folks going to clearly see few years from now..

And have a roster full of 4/5's?

Exactly how do you play Noel, Simmons, Embiid, Okafor and the euro?

Meanwhile they have no players 1-3.

Stop discussing sports

 

[Mack1052]

So that's why they gave him a hundo Milly

 

[D-TOWN REP]

He was weak mentally also. We saw that when he went to a big market.

It ain't like he had DRose injuries.

Very weak mentally he even admitted he wasn't built for the bright lights

Dallas was always the right place for him

Big enough market but not huge like New York, Chicago, or LA

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

And have a roster full of 4/5's?

Exactly how do you play Noel, Simmons, Embiid, Okafor and the euro?

Meanwhile they have no players 1-3.

Stop discussing sports

You dont have to play them together and we are actively trying to move Noel. That team full of 4/5s is a past tense cliche at this point. You dont need to play them all together, and Embiid and Jah can play together once they get off of mins restrictions. Trading Grant was a smart move because we get a guy with a skillset we need instead of an energy guy.

Simmons is NOT a 4, and will be a matchup problem for anyone.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Well they haven't been panning out so it was time to add a vet to that group.

Man these cats been rebuild since AI 2.0 left.

You noticed they traded after 2 weeks, got rid of a young player and bought in someone who's been around for a few years and plays hard nightly.

Our process wasnt for anything to pan out by this point. Its really not hard to see things coming together, and anyone who watched the game last night can see Embiid is a player.

One thing is for sure, Id rather be a fan of THIS team with Embiid, Simmons and Jah, and potentially 2 high picks next year than a fan of a team who makes the playoffs as a 6-8 seed every year and gets bounced in the first round only to add players each year just to add them with no direction chief...

 

[Mack1052]

You dont have to play them together and we are actively trying to move Noel. That team full of 4/5s is a past tense cliche at this point. You dont need to play them all together, and Embiid and Jah can play together once they get off of mins restrictions. Trading Grant was a smart move because we get a guy with a skillset we need instead of an energy guy.

Simmons is NOT a 4, and will be a matchup problem for anyone.

Ideally y'all wanna a scoring 2 for Noel right? How many picks do the Sixers have besides their own in next years draft?

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Ideally y'all wanna a scoring 2 for Noel right? How many picks do the Sixers have besides their own in next years draft?

1 maybe 2. Our first priority is a PG who can shoot. For Noel a 2 would be idea tho since there are no PGs available who are better than those top ones in the draft next year

 

[Mack1052]

1 maybe 2. Our first priority is a PG who can shoot. For Noel a 2 would be idea tho since there are no PGs available who are better than those top ones in the draft next year

I would love Noel on the Nets. I would trade Bojan Bogdanovic for Noel and y'all 2nd rounder. We need rim protection and y'all need points

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I would love Noel on the Nets. I would trade Bojan Bogdanovic for Noel and y'all 2nd rounder. We need rim protection and y'all need points

Yall would actually have to add a pick for that deal. We wouldn't give up Noel AND a draft pick for dude straight up...

 

[RoadRage]

And have a roster full of 4/5's?

Exactly how do you play Noel, Simmons, Embiid, Okafor and the euro?

Meanwhile they have no players 1-3.

Stop discussing sports

I am fully aware who they have and what they don't have, believe it or not I know a lot more abut the sport than you give me credit...
But that ok they in year on in a three year plan to build a championship team and to me they are right on time...
Their goal this year should be to develop their big guys (usually big guys take longer to develop and there are less of them).. In next years draft they should target a P.G. and shooters then the following year they should draft roll players and start signing players to replace the youngsters who aren't developing right..
What you have to understand is that Rome wasn't built over night and unless your team is either the Cavs, Warriors, Spurs, Clippers or maybe the Raptors, other than those teams the 76ers are in a lot better shape than those other teams in the league...

 

[Mask]

I would love Noel on the Nets. I would trade Bojan Bogdanovic for Noel and y'all 2nd rounder. We need rim protection and y'all need points

Toronto want Noel

 

[Mack1052]

Yall would actually have to add a pick for that deal. We wouldn't give up Noel AND a draft pick for dude straight up...

Hmm

 

[RoadRage]

Again the 76ers shouldn't trade anyone until at least two more season, mainly due to their shouldn't be any pressure on them to win now, so as long as their payroll is down, they should allow all their big guys a chance to develop and prove they are the type of players they want to move forwards with... Then in two years they should have a clear idea on the character and ability of their players, then they can make the trades they want and used the pieces to fill in the roll players and specialist rolls needed..
Also that much young talent should be able to draw vets to want to play in Philly (this is where the owner must be willing to do his part and open up the pockets) and once that happens they should be in the similar position the Thunder was in 6 years ago..

 

[Mack1052]

Toronto want Noel

But what could they offer?

 

[Mask]

But what could they offer?

Hold up I'm see what they talking bout

 

[Mask]

 

[Mack1052]

Hold up I'm see what they talking bout

Idk why they would want him tho. They drafted two big man and signed Sully.

 

[Mack1052]

I remember seeing him as a freshmen in high school and he was doing those same moves. Coach Cap insisted he worked on his inside game but the young boy always had them skills

 

[Mask]

I remember seeing him as a freshmen in high school and he was doing those same moves. Coach Cap insisted he worked on his inside game but the young boy always had them skills

Same as Anthony Davis....that's why during the Olympics Davis hit a 3 and was booting up towards Cap

 

[Mask]

 

[Complex]

You dont have to play them together and we are actively trying to move Noel. That team full of 4/5s is a past tense cliche at this point. You dont need to play them all together, and Embiid and Jah can play together once they get off of mins restrictions. Trading Grant was a smart move because we get a guy with a skillset we need instead of an energy guy.

Simmons is NOT a 4, and will be a matchup problem for anyone.

Why do you respond without responding to the original post?

Simmons isn't a match up problem because he can't shoot. You can just give him a cushion and what can he do. He's not going to beat you off the dribble.

Ben Simmons is the same size as Blake. That's why I call him Blake without the insane athleticism. Blake was able to get by on that when he first came in the league.

And It's been proven already Embiid and Okafor can't play together, because both want and need the ball. Noel is tradeable, Okafor isn't.

And bullshit it's past tense, when they aren't multi skilled. Noel can play the 3? Okafor can play the 3? All of them have a defined position.

You can use Simmons the same way we use Randle and have him push the ball, but what position will he be guarding. Who will he be passing to who can make shots? 33% shooting Staukus who couldn't make shit with Boogie? So who else can you have in the game with him? You can't have Okafor, he's not a hard worker on defense.

 

[Complex]

I was wondering why he wasn't mentioned in the best center dicussion.

Because nobody is taking Whiteside over Towns

 

[Mask]

I was wondering why he wasn't mentioned in the best center dicussion.

Because nobody is taking Whiteside over Towns

Shit I'm taking Boogie over Whiteside

 

[RoadRage]

Why do you respond without responding to the original post?

Simmons isn't a match up problem because he can't shoot. You can just give him a cushion and what can he do. He's not going to beat you off the dribble.

Ben Simmons is the same size as Blake. That's why I call him Blake without the insane athleticism. Blake was able to get by on that when he first came in the league.

And It's been proven already Embiid and Okafor can't play together, because both want and need the ball. Noel is tradeable, Okafor isn't.

And bullshit it's past tense, when they aren't multi skilled. Noel can play the 3? Okafor can play the 3? All of them have a defined position.

You can use Simmons the same way we use Randle and have him push the ball, but what position will he be guarding. Who will he be passing to who can make shots? 33% shooting Staukus who couldn't make shit with Boogie? So who else can you have in the game with him? You can't have Okafor, he's not a hard worker on defense.

They are all young developing players who's body is not done growing... I would keep all of them and try to mold them into the players they need to be, but after two years they not developing right I will trade them off... To me, unless they are a real caner in the locker room, there is no need to trade them... The 76ers aren't going no where with in three years so why not be patient with their young players..

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Why do you respond without responding to the original post?

Simmons isn't a match up problem because he can't shoot. You can just give him a cushion and what can he do. He's not going to beat you off the dribble.

Ben Simmons is the same size as Blake. That's why I call him Blake without the insane athleticism. Blake was able to get by on that when he first came in the league.

And It's been proven already Embiid and Okafor can't play together, because both want and need the ball. Noel is tradeable, Okafor isn't.

And bullshit it's past tense, when they aren't multi skilled. Noel can play the 3? Okafor can play the 3? All of them have a defined position.

You can use Simmons the same way we use Randle and have him push the ball, but what position will he be guarding. Who will he be passing to who can make shots? 33% shooting Staukus who couldn't make shit with Boogie? So who else can you have in the game with him? You can't have Okafor, he's not a hard worker on defense.

Didn't see the original posts Bruh... Take it down a notch...

How has it been proven they can't play together? Link to an article? I live here and follow the team closely, and the ONLY reason they aren't playing together right now is because they are on minutes restrictions and Brown doesn't feel it makes sense to play the together an not be able to play either of them at all for long stretches of games.

In a league where position lines are blurred, you are using past tense rhetoric. Embiid can step out and hit the 3, thus taking the other teams 5 outside with him, freeing Okafor up to work. Okafor is a threat from 15 so he can also step out when need be.

The fact that you are comparing Simmons skillset to Randle's and Blakes brings pause, so I won't even entertain that aspect of your post, all due respect.

You act like Stauskasis a foundational piece playing 40 minutes a game, and we also just picked up Dude from the Thunder who is a stretch 4. All in all, we are a work in progress, you are action like we are a finished product with all your assumptions, which is cool, as you are entitled to your opinion and don't follow this team, just like I don't follow yours, which is why I don't make blanket statements based on BGOL, internet articles, si.com or Espn highlights...

All Due respect...

 

[Complex]

They are all young developing players who's body is not done growing... I would keep all of them and try to mold them into the players they need to be, but after two years they not developing right I will trade them off... To me, unless they are a real caner in the locker room, there is no need to trade them... The 76ers aren't going no where with in three years so why not be patient with their young players..

You only have so many years to prove yourself...before you decide to offer a second contract

You can't have a team full of bigs and no quality at your other positions.

Because of their low salary they don't even have trade them because you can't package them with anything.

It makes sense to trade to try to improve the overall quality rather than stunt each others growth and trade value.

Bullshit organizations do what Philly does....Sacramento does it to...that's why Boogie was going wtf during the draft. They do shit like draft two point guards in one draft(Minnesota) and draft back to back shooting guards(Stauskas and McLemore) and bigs in numerous drafts(Queens)...it's not hard to see why their organizations remain bad for so long.

 

[Complex]

Didn't see the original posts Bruh... Take it down a notch...

How has it been proven they can't play together? Link to an article? I live here and follow the team closely, and the ONLY reason they aren't playing together right now is because they are on minutes restrictions and Brown doesn't feel it makes sense to play the together an not be able to play either of them at all for long stretches of games.

In a league where position lines are blurred, you are using past tense rhetoric. Embiid can step out and hit the 3, thus taking the other teams 5 outside with him, freeing Okafor up to work. Okafor is a threat from 15 so he can also step out when need be.

The fact that you are comparing Simmons skillset to Randle's and Blakes brings pause, so I won't even entertain that aspect of your post, all due respect.

You act like Stauskasis a foundational piece playing 40 minutes a game, and we also just picked up Dude from the Thunder who is a stretch 4. All in all, we are a work in progress, you are action like we are a finished product with all your assumptions, which is cool, as you are entitled to your opinion and don't follow this team, just like I don't follow yours, which is why I don't make blanket statements based on BGOL, internet articles, si.com or Espn highlights...

All Due respect...

There is no blurred position, because it's also the position you defend.

Can you have Simmons defend a three? He's barely interested in defending a four.

Embiid is going to defend a three?

So you're limited in the roster you can put out there.

This is a league where a lot of teams are going small and causing match up problems, and Philly has 5 fucking 6'10 players on the roster...and half don't play defense.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

There is no blurred position, because it's also the position you defend.

Can you have Simmons defend a three? He's barely interested in defending a four.

Embiid is going to defend a three?

So you're limited in the roster you can put out there.

This is a league where a lot of teams are going small and causing match up problems, and Philly has 5 fucking 6'10 players on the roster...and half don't play defense.

So, a player can only play the opposing player who plays his same 'position' number?

Cool... have a good night bruh...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You only have so many years to prove yourself...before you decide to offer a second contract

You can't have a team full of bigs and no quality at your other positions.

Because of their low salary they don't even have trade them because you can't package them with anything.

It makes sense to trade to try to improve the overall quality rather than stunt each others growth and trade value.

Bullshit organizations do what Philly does....Sacramento does it to...that's why Boogie was going wtf during the draft. They do shit like draft two point guards in one draft(Minnesota) and draft back to back shooting guards(Stauskas and McLemore) and bigs in numerous drafts(Queens)...it's not hard to see why their organizations remain bad for so long.

Like I said earlier, Cool, call the organization what you want too.... Just like a particular organization who sacrificed a team to pay one player.... Nevermind...

All in all, I absolutely love the direction my team is going AND love the pieces we have and the opportunities we have to build on what we have and how we've set our team up to continue to grow. Some of you are cool with having amazing organizations who are content to be a 6-8 seed every year, only to get bounced in the first round, then pick up also rans or players just to make moves, and stay in that cycle. Just like some teams have too many guards, etc. we have 3 bigs, are in the process of moving one... Just because a player is 6-10 doesn't make him a prototypical BIG, which again is a past tense logic but if that works for you... cool... your opinion, your right.

Who has send we aren't going to make trades to improve, etc?!?!? It's 6 games into the season and you are making statements as if we are in year 5 of them all playing together and refuse to talk deals...

When we started this shit, it was publicly stated, we are on a 3-4 year plan TO TURN THIS TEAM AROUND, and we are just entering year 3 of when that statement was made. I'm cool with what we have and the direction I see this organization taking...

 

[Complex]

So, a player can only play the opposing player who plays his same 'position' number?

Cool... have a good night bruh...

If that's what you see from my post, cool

5 bigs and not a NBA worthy starter at positions one through three

Keep defending your bullshit organization that has been making bad moves for 20 years as if they've suddenly gotten it right. Hopefully next year because the first three picks might be smaller players you guys might not fuck it up