New York Declares Juneteenth A Holiday For State Employees.....

geechiedan

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I posed the theory and question if he is some level of a dem operative or is on the payroll in some capacity a few weeks back.
That looks more true than ever with this thread.
Pathetic.
you posed bullshit...:rolleyes2::rolleyes2::rolleyes2: youre a keyboard activist thinking your changing the world by posting shit on a porn message board. That alone makes it hard to take you guys seriously...
 

geechiedan

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I only posted it because it makes sense as to why you are the way you are.
A person with a sense of humor...unlike yourself... you take yourself way too fuckin seriously dude :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2:
Juneteenth is gonna be a national holiday.

Is it really worth black peeps beefin over?

Still trying to figure out why you tagged me in here.
he tagged me too...then wanna get sensitive:smh::smh::smh::dunno::dunno::dunno:
 

geechiedan

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Don’t try to change your argument now that I’ve quoted what she said and pressed you about it!
The argument is the Juneteenth is a holiday that could have waited until AFTER other more important issues right???

The argument is ADOS didn't ask this right???

this what those memes were about and why supersav and kingtarq have their panties in a bunch..


Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) and Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) introduced a bill to recognize Juneteenth in their respective chambers last June, but it didn't gain momentum.

The bill was later reintroduced in February, and it was taken up by Congress this week. The Senate on Tuesday passed the legislation by unanimous consent, and later, the House passed the bill Wednesday.


On Thursday, President Biden signed the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act into law. However, Biden noted that “it’s not - it’s simply not enough just to commemorate Juneteenth.”

“After all, the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans didn’t mark the end of America’s work to deliver on the promise of equality, it only marked the beginning. To honor the true meaning of Juneteenth, we have to continue towards that promise because we’ve not gotten there yet,” Biden said.

but clearly there are those who want to blame someone for the holiday being made before other pressing issues... you want to point a finger...^^^^ there it is... continue to waste your energy on it :rolleyes2:
 

VAiz4hustlaz

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The argument is the Juneteenth is a holiday that could have waited until AFTER other more important issues right???

The argument is ADOS didn't ask this right???

this what those memes were about and why supersav and kingtarq have their panties in a bunch..

I said don’t try to change YOUR argument! YOUR argument was that Opal Lee should be blamed for Juneteenth being nothing but “tokenism and empty symbolic gestures.” I know you’re getting up there in age yourself, so evidently you’ve forgotten your own posts in this thread. I posted them below as a reminder. It was ME who noted that Ms. Lee said that there are other racial disparities that need to be addressed and that this momentum should be used for that. This is a direct refutation of what you said about her. And I had to post her quote five different times before you acknowledged it. And now you’re trying to use that as if it were the original argument YOU were making! Can’t make this shit up. You are one disingenuous mofo!




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Ms. Opal Lee is on the move. The 94-year-old activist from Fort Worth, Texas, who is oft-referred to as the “Grandmother of Juneteenth,” has already begun her annual Walk to D.C., as part of her efforts to see the momentous day recognized as a federal holiday.

@KingTaharqa @Supersav @VAiz4hustlaz @Soul On Ice


THERES YOUR CULPRIT!!! THATS WHO YOU NEED TO CHECK!! THATS THE PERSON WHO SET THE ADOS AGENDA BACK!!!

you guys are so upset with symbolic gestures....tell her about it since she pushed for it.
Tell Ms. Opal about the tokenism and empty symbolic gestures...

Just had to post the above for reference.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) and Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) introduced a bill to recognize Juneteenth in their respective chambers last June, but it didn't gain momentum.

The bill was later reintroduced in February, and it was taken up by Congress this week. The Senate on Tuesday passed the legislation by unanimous consent, and later, the House passed the bill Wednesday.


On Thursday, President Biden signed the Juneteenth National Independence Day Act into law. However, Biden noted that “it’s not - it’s simply not enough just to commemorate Juneteenth.”

“After all, the emancipation of enslaved Black Americans didn’t mark the end of America’s work to deliver on the promise of equality, it only marked the beginning. To honor the true meaning of Juneteenth, we have to continue towards that promise because we’ve not gotten there yet,” Biden said.

but clearly there are those who want to blame someone for the holiday being made before other pressing issues... you want to point a finger...^^^^ there it is... continue to waste your energy on it :rolleyes2:

I’m shocked that you’re finally pointing the finger at Democratic pols in Congress and holding them accountable!! This is all we’ve been saying the whole time!
 

geechiedan

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I said don’t try to change YOUR argument! YOUR argument was that Opal Lee should be blamed for Juneteenth being nothing but “tokenism and empty symbolic gestures.” I know you’re getting up there in age yourself, so evidently you’ve forgotten your own posts in this thread. I posted them below as a reminder. It was ME who noted that Ms. Lee said that there are other racial disparities that need to be addressed and that this momentum should be used for that. This is a direct refutation of what you said about her. And I had to post her quote five different times before you acknowledged it. And now you’re trying to use that as if it were the original argument YOU were making! Can’t make this shit up. You are one disingenuous mofo!

Just had to post the above for reference.



I’m shocked that you’re finally pointing the finger at Democratic pols in Congress and holding them accountable!! This is all we’ve been saying the whole time!
you should have gone back further for a much CLEARER reference and point

Fuck that... We need public policy changes
Who asked for this?

America loves giving out statues and holidays but when it comes to reparations we get excuses and even staunch resistance from our own who have decided they hate themselves. :;smh:

I'm living in the wrong timeline...
Holiday also benefits everyone not just so-called black descendants of prisoners of war.

Not a good look to keep taking these token gestures. What happened to accountability?
But people in here love the token gestures. Where the Dem lovers @geechiedan @AllUniverse17
I don't care about holidays. I'll trade public policy change for a day to cookout
Juneteenth is not a celebration cac. It's to honor our ancestors. I'm sorry people monetize your Jew holidays, but people who do the same to ours will be checked.



To which I responded....

:lol: want real change get your gun and go down to the capitol building. Otherwise you aint checkin shit. Juneteenth will get the same treatment as memorial day, labor day, hell mothers day and easter.. heres what you can do...find out the politicians and orgs who pushed for it and check them...


if theres one we def know...biden didn't push for it on his own.

Opal Lee, Sheila Jackson Lee and Sen. Ed Markey are the people who pushed hard for this holiday apparently over other things.. You wanna be mad at Biden and dem supporters who accept token gestures...WELL THEY JUST DID.. :hmm::hmm::hmm:

You wanna talk disingenuous?? you guys are cowards for not standing on your convictions.

You keep posting her statement that there are other racial disparities that need to be addressed and that this momentum should be used for that... I ask all of you DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WILL GET DONE?? you haven't answered it... (if you don't believe it then what she did is pointless...if you do believe it then you should be at the very least ok with Juneteenth as a federal holiday if not happy about it) SO WHICH IS IT??

I already voted for biden and the dems JUST LIKE MS OPAL AND ALMOST EVERY OTHER BLACK PERSON IN THE COUNTRY so how am I throwing her under some proverbial bus??

I'm NOT the one angry and disappointed Juneteenth is a federal holiday at this point in time... You guys are...and youre mad at the dems AND DEM SUPPORTERS for not only accepting token gestures but for pushing for them over other things that energy could go to.... now IS THIS YOUR POSITION OR IS IT NOT??
 

Supersav

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I said don’t try to change YOUR argument! YOUR argument was that Opal Lee should be blamed for Juneteenth being nothing but “tokenism and empty symbolic gestures.” I know you’re getting up there in age yourself, so evidently you’ve forgotten your own posts in this thread. I posted them below as a reminder. It was ME who noted that Ms. Lee said that there are other racial disparities that need to be addressed and that this momentum should be used for that. This is a direct refutation of what you said about her. And I had to post her quote five different times before you acknowledged it. And now you’re trying to use that as if it were the original argument YOU were making! Can’t make this shit up. You are one disingenuous mofo!






Just had to post the above for reference.



I’m shocked that you’re finally pointing the finger at Democratic pols in Congress and holding them accountable!! This is all we’ve been saying the whole time!
Finally
 

VAiz4hustlaz

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you should have gone back further for a much CLEARER reference and point

To which I responded....

Opal Lee, Sheila Jackson Lee and Sen. Ed Markey are the people who pushed hard for this holiday apparently over other things.. You wanna be mad at Biden and dem supporters who accept token gestures...WELL THEY JUST DID.. :hmm::hmm::hmm:

Ummmmm……so now YOU’RE the one calling it a “token gesture”?!?!?

You wanna talk disingenuous?? you guys are cowards for not standing on your convictions.

You keep posting her statement that there are other racial disparities that need to be addressed and that this momentum should be used for that... I ask all of you DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WILL GET DONE?? you haven't answered it... (if you don't believe it then what she did is pointless...if you do believe it then you should be at the very least ok with Juneteenth as a federal holiday if not happy about it) SO WHICH IS IT??


It has the CAPACITY to get done as long people are not content with symbolic “victories” like making Juneteenth a holiday (or a biracial non-ADOS President or Vice President or BLM street). This is the point that NUMEROUS posters have made on this thread but you can’t seem to understand.

I already voted for biden and the dems JUST LIKE MS OPAL AND ALMOST EVERY OTHER BLACK PERSON IN THE COUNTRY so how am I throwing her under some proverbial bus??

Your exact words were “THERES YOUR CULPRIT!!! THATS WHO YOU NEED TO CHECK!! THATS THE PERSON WHO SET THE ADOS AGENDA BACK!!!”

I'm NOT the one angry and disappointed Juneteenth is a federal holiday at this point in time... You guys are...and youre mad at the dems AND DEM SUPPORTERS for not only accepting token gestures but for pushing for them over other things that energy could go to.... now IS THIS YOUR POSITION OR IS IT NOT??

The position is disgust at the lack of positive substantive POLICY directed at and for Black ADOS from a political party that you “and almost every other black person in the country” (not) voted for. This has ALWAYS been the position.
 

geechiedan

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Ummmmm……so now YOU’RE the one calling it a “token gesture”?!?!?
re-read the earlier posts... I'm just repeating the sentiments people posted.... it could be described as outrage or great disappointment. Alot of people certainly aren't HAPPY thats for sure..

It has the CAPACITY to get done as long people are not content with symbolic “victories” like making Juneteenth a holiday (or a biracial non-ADOS President or Vice President or BLM street). This is the point that NUMEROUS posters have made on this thread but you can’t seem to understand.

Oh I do understand that.... I also understand that NUMEROUS posters (including yourself) are getting short on patience....hence all the animosity towards anyone who supports democrats (as if theres really a viable alternative at this point) hence all the outraged posts:

dasmybikepunk said: Who asked for this?

RoomService said: Fuck that... We need public policy changes

Supersav said: But people in here love the token gestures. (YOUR BOY supersav used those words)

Supersav said: I don't care about holidays. I'll trade public policy change for a day to cookout

KingTaharqa said: Juneteenth is not a celebration cac. It's to honor our ancestors. I'm sorry people monetize your Jew holidays, but people who do the same to ours will be checked.

do ANY of these people seem like theyre okay with this????

I also said point your outrage at specific politicians and organizations that were for responsible for pushing Juneteenth and seeing that thru when various other issues could have been pushed. Which is the complaint from your crew... I just gave specific names to the responsible parties...

Sheila Jackson Lee and Sen. Ed Markey and Ms Opal Lee....an ABC News headline reads Opal Lee, the 'grandmother of the movement' to make Juneteenth a federal holiday... thats who asked for it..

The position is disgust at the lack of positive substantive POLICY directed at and for Black ADOS from a political party that you “and almost every other black person in the country” (not) voted for. This has ALWAYS been the position.

of which you don't consider Juneteenth one of and we're back to the angry posts again.. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

question: your boy supersav called Juneteenth a token gesture and said he'd trade the holiday for something else...do you think he's throwing Ms Opal, for all her efforts in this issue, under the bus???
 
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geechiedan

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tweet that pic to Ms Opal... :smh::smh:

You wanna talk about disingenuous..nigga you wasted however many posts trying to pin me on throwing an old lady "under the bus" and this is what you really think of her accomplishment :smh::smh::smh:

now watch another 2 pages of posts denying it and saying how I'm actually insulting her blah blah blah:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

VAiz4hustlaz

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tweet that pic to Ms Opal... :smh::smh:

You wanna talk about disingenuous..nigga you wasted however many posts trying to pin me on throwing an old lady "under the bus" and this is what you really think of her accomplishment :smh::smh::smh:

now watch another 2 pages of posts denying it and saying how I'm actually insulting her blah blah blah:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

If you think Juneteenth was “her accomplishment” then you are already misguided.
 

VAiz4hustlaz

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again tell her that...its the social media era...you CAN contact her and let her know where you stand on the issue...

First of all, I highly doubt a 94 year-old woman is a regular on Twitter! At best, she may have representatives who do social media on her or her cause’s behalf.

Second of all, and more importantly, and as an addendum to my post above, this isn’t really “her accomplishment.” She is just a safe face for it. This is simply a milquetoast symbolic reaction to the social unrest from last year. No one even mentioned her in this thread until you introduced her as a distraction (and tagged me in it). But it’s what you always do.

So any ire should be directed to the politicians, legislators and other people in power who are failing to push substantive legislation and policies. You know, those people you like to distract us from. Especially that political party that receives 90% of the Black vote.

But you already know this. :hmm:
 

Supersav

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First of all, I highly doubt a 94 year-old woman is a regular on Twitter! At best, she may have representatives who do social media on her or her cause’s behalf.

Second of all, and more importantly, and as an addendum to my post above, this isn’t really “her accomplishment.” She is just a safe face for it. This is simply a milquetoast symbolic reaction to the social unrest from last year. No one even mentioned her in this thread until you introduced her as a distraction (and tagged me in it). But it’s what you always do.

So any ire should be directed to the politicians, legislators and other people in power who are failing to push substantive legislation and policies. You know, those people you like to distract us from. Especially that political party that receives 90% of the Black vote.

But you already know this. :hmm:
Wait he's still asking us to argue with a 94 year old black women as a way to deflect from the policy makers who give out crumbs and expect people to be satisfied?
 

geechiedan

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First of all, I highly doubt a 94 year-old woman is a regular on Twitter! At best, she may have representatives who do social media on her or her cause’s behalf.

Second of all, and more importantly, and as an addendum to my post above, this isn’t really “her accomplishment.” She is just a safe face for it. This is simply a milquetoast symbolic reaction to the social unrest from last year. No one even mentioned her in this thread until you introduced her as a distraction (and tagged me in it). But it’s what you always do.

So any ire should be directed to the politicians, legislators and other people in power who are failing to push substantive legislation and policies. You know, those people you like to distract us from. Especially that political party that receives 90% of the Black vote.

But you already know this. :hmm:
you'd be surprised how hip elderly people can be...

But to say that she's just a safe face for it for it is truly insulting since her efforts are documented and you repeatedly posted that she felt this was just one step in something more. Now youre saying she didn't even do that much..way to discredit your elder buddy :smh: :smh: :smh:

But since you wanna be angry at the legislators who did it...what did you say to Shiela Jackson and ed markey?? How did you express your dissatisfaction with this development to them?

I'm curious to know??


Wait he's still asking us to argue with a 94 year old black women as a way to deflect from the policy makers who give out crumbs and expect people to be satisfied?

No argument...just send her a tweet and let her know how you feel about the "token gesture"...you know..like you express here..

same question to you too

But since you wanna be angry at the legislators who did it...what did you say to Shiela Jackson and ed markey?? How did you express your dissatisfaction with this development to them?

I'm curious to know??
 

VAiz4hustlaz

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you'd be surprised how hip elderly people can be...

:rolleyes2:

Then again, you’re in that age range yourself, so perhaps you’re right!:D

But to say that she's just a safe face for it for it is truly insulting since her efforts are documented and you repeatedly posted that she felt this was just one step in something more. Now youre saying she didn't even do that much..way to discredit your elder buddy :smh: :smh: :smh:

Has nothing to do with “discredit(ing) my elder” but everything to do with understanding realpolitik , especially as it is played on Black America these days. Symbolism over substance as a way of quieting the “Negro masses” when they openly rebel. Give them a BLM street, a “Black” VP, and a federal holiday, but no substantive legislation whatsoever. And this tricknology is aided and abetted by people like you.

But since you wanna be angry at the legislators who did it...what did you say to Shiela Jackson and ed markey?? How did you express your dissatisfaction with this development to them?

I'm curious to know??

Black people been expressing our dissatisfaction with this brand of politics for a looooooooooong time, and someone your age should be aware of this. It has manifested itself in “ADOS” these days, but the general spirit behind it is nothing new. Even on BGOL, we have highlighted (and continue to highlight) the campaign against this brand of politics, only to be met with resistance from people like you.
 

geechiedan

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:rolleyes2:

Then again, you’re in that age range yourself, so perhaps you’re right!:D
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Has nothing to do with “discredit(ing) my elder” but everything to do with understanding realpolitik ,BLAH BLAH BLAH

its not an either/or binary choice... YOU yourself expressed that when you repeatedly posted her statement.. "We've got all of these disparities that we've got to address and I mean all of them. While we've got some momentum I hope we can get some of it done. We can have one America if we try," she told KTVT.

That sounds like she's not done yet and you agree....Now youre all Symbolism over substance as a way of quieting the “Negro masses” when they openly rebel. this tricknology is aided and abetted by people like you :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

who am I?? someone who voted for biden and the dem majority and people like me are the ones making it hard for ADOS, according to YOU... but heres the problem for you in this juneteenth issue....if you blame ME then you HAVE TO blame Ms Opal Lee because she's in the same boat...SHE voted for biden..SHE voted for the dem majority too and she literally campaigned and promoted the holiday... like I said you cant have it both ways..

Youve already said and shown in so many ways your anger and dismissal of the holiday and according to YOU Ms Opal is being USED as the face because who can be mad as an octogenarian right? so just OWN it....you and supersav and anyone else who has a problem with it.

BE HONEST... according to your various posts Ms Opal was used and juneteenth was a wasted effort... just admit it publicly and you'll feel better :giggle:
 
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