NBA 2018-2019 playoffs thread...finals is set..”Warriors vs Raptors 2-4” Raptors win the title!!!

[Spectrum]

but the crazy thing is; Lets say Klay was fully healthy, and so was Iggy; and boogie didnt tear his quad at the beginning of the playoffs; them fools would have beat Toronto without KD...

Honestly..you might not have needed all of that... i think if Klay doesnt have the acl injury the warriors win that game, it goes 7 and then you just never know...

 

[Day_Carver]

This team didn't need more talent. They needed to avoid a crazy injury big. that's all... they already have an unfair amount of talent (and shooters)

And their talent fits perfectly together!! That is really the main thing; they balance each other very well; And when they are engaged, its unbelievable to watch; and thats why players like Cook and Bell and Alphonso etc etc can come in and look like they do....

 

[Day_Carver]

Honestly..you might not have needed all of that... i think if Klay doesnt have the acl injury the warriors win that game, it goes 7 and then you just never know...

Klay was killing them so you absolutely right!!

 

[shaddyvillethug]

“Man if Klay Hadn’t got hurt”

 

[footloose]

nah he meant the knicks nigga

Kd go where kyrie go. Roc nation sports. Do the math

 

[REDLINE]

Kd go where kyrie go. Roc nation sports. Do the math

Wouldn’t last a year. Kyrie would be jealous of all the attention and questions about KD’s injury and recovery’s getting.

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

GTFOH. You didn't understand his response. He's not qualifying the injuries. He's saying, injuries aside, the team needs more shooters.

You're not going to have a team with Boogie, Curry, Klay, KD, Draymond, Iggy (and then Cook who is a great 3 point shooter) and then also have role players who can defend and also shoot too in a league where shooting is a premium. You're essentially asking for the Warriors by far the best starting 5 in the league and also have the perfect bench. Come on son.. if they didn't have the fluke injuries, they win easily... they shouldnt be able to have that type of starting five and also have the bench to survive losing KD and Klay and then also survive other injuries.

I'm still mad at the result but, even though I spent the finals begrudging the bench, I have to admit how absurd it is to think that could or should be possible.

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

but the crazy thing is; Lets say Klay was fully healthy, and so was Iggy; and boogie didnt tear his quad at the beginning of the playoffs; them fools would have beat Toronto without KD...

You don't even need all that. They had a good chance on winning STILL until Klay went down.

 

[4 Dimensional]

“Man if Klay Hadn’t got hurt”

I’m drunk off these ifs.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

I’m drunk off these ifs.

Super drunk

 

[REDLINE]

I’m drunk off these ifs.

“If” Kawhi was still on the Spurs...

Unfortunately, “Ifs” will forever be a part of this series. They don’t need to be talked about, but if you watched the series then you know.

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

they very tight knit; a lot of people have underestimated that....

A lot of "NBA insiders" should be fired if KD comes back.

 

[footloose]

Wouldn’t last a year. Kyrie would be jealous of all the attention and questions about KD’s injury and recovery’s getting.

I’m just saying that’s where it’s goin. Whatever happen after that is on them

 

[Day_Carver]

A lot of "NBA insiders" should be fired if KD comes back.

The thing about all those so called insiders is they don't know shit never! They just say whatever and hope that it sticks. Go back and look at his last year before becoming a free agent in OKC. Not none of them said he would go to GS, none! As a matter of fact I was the only who said he would go to GS or Miami fuckers laughed at me; I should be a dam insider.......

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Lol naw don’t try that
Kwahi was seeing the same d as Steph being blitz at the key double teamed to get the balmlout there hands


Only one has a teammate that can score 60
Only one has two Allstars beside him
Only one is shut down defender

Lying ass we just watched it
He was just inefficient

You cats quick to point out all star and capable of lol

Nigga kawhi was out there with multiple all stars too
He was also out there with a fellow defensive player of the year
And the soon to be most improved player in the NBA lolol

See how when you shine an actual light on shit it don't look the same?

I finally remembered who you were a fan of and your responses make sense


Be blessed fam

 

[REDLINE]

I’m just saying that’s where it’s goin. Whatever happen after that is on them

True

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Lying ass we just watched it
He was just inefficient

You cats quick to point out all star and capable of lol

Nigga kawhi was out there with multiple all stars too
He was also out there with a fellow defensive player of the year
And the soon to be most improved player in the NBA lolol

See how when you shine an actual light on shit it don't look the same?

I finally remembered who you were a fan of and your responses make sense


Be blessed fam

Yea he’s a spurms fan

 

[Lower9Nupe]

Who cares? Niggas cant even beat the Baby Dinosaurs and by the time they get back they'll be old. Nobody fears these dudes anymore bruh, it aint 2015 or 2017 no mo.

Keep believing that. (lol)

 

[Mr. Met]

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

I’m drunk off these ifs.

IF is the best word in the English language. You might understand who and what, but you don't understand why and how without understanding IF.

Many "champions" benefit from a bit of injury and matchup-related luck along the way, and injuries large and small have affected most playoff seasons. An injury tilted the championship odds at some point damn near every May or June.

2016- Curry, Igualdola, Bogut

2015- Kevin Durant; Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love

2012 & 2013 Miami Heat- Derrick Rose; Russell Westbrook, Serge Ibaka; Dwight Howard

2010 Lakers- Kendrick Perkins

2009 Lakers- Yao Ming; Kevin Garnett

2008 Celtics- Andrew Bynum

2005 Spurs- Joe Johnson

2004 Pistons- Karl Malone

2003 Spurs- Dirk Nowitzki

1999 Spurs- Patrick Ewing

In sports, IF is important because championships are overrated in general the way they're used to define players.

When you understand IF, you understand that "champion" doesn't mean "best." LeBron didn't become a better player when Derrick Rose got hurt but the benefits reaped from that bolstered his rep in a ridiculous way, suddenly acknowledging what had been true for years. Patrick Ewing was the best player on teams that made the Finals twice but his entire career is defined by not winning a championship his team could have won had he not been injured in 1999? But Tim Duncan is a GOAT based largely on five titles, three of which (at least) were won with a lot of luck? Bullshit.

Context is important. You can't just remember titles and ignore the circumstances behind them. Scoreboard don't lie but it don't tell the whole story, either.

 

[Rembrandt Brown]

IF is the best word in the English language. You might understand who and what, but you don't understand why and how without understanding IF.

Many "champions" benefit from a bit of injury and matchup-related luck along the way, and injuries large and small have affected most playoff seasons. Don’t listen to any asterisk talk, ever. Look at league history and you’ll find that an injury tilted the championship odds at some point damn near every May or June.

2016- Curry, Igualdola, Bogut

2015- Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love

2012 & 2013 Miami Heat- Derrick Rose; Russell Westbrook, Serge Ibaka; Dwight Howard

2010 Lakers- Kendrick Perkins

2009 Lakers- Yao Ming; Kevin Garnett

2008 Celtics- Andrew Bynum

2005 Spurs- Joe Johnson

2004 Pistons- Karl Malone

2003 Spurs- Dirk Nowitzki

1999 Spurs- Patrick Ewing

In sports, IF is important because championships are overrated in general the way they're used to define players.

When you understand IF, you understand that "champion" doesn't mean "best." LeBron didn't become a better player when Derrick Rose got hurt but the benefits reaped from that bolstered his rep in a ridiculous way, suddenly acknowledging what had been true for years. Patrick Ewing was the best player on teams that made the Finals twice but his entire career is defined by not winning a championship his team could have won had he not been injured in 1999? But Tim Duncan is a GOAT based largely on five titles, three of which (at least) were won with a lot of luck? Bullshit.

Context is important. You can't just remember titles and ignore the circumstances behind them. Scoreboard don't lie but it don't tell the whole story, either.

2015 thread On Life Without Durant for the Oklahoma City Thunder:

It was a wicked dilemma: A championship run would be the trump card in convincing Kevin Durant to stay in Oklahoma City, but to make that run, the Thunder and Durant would have to take an unknowable risk with his right foot.

In the end, Durant’s body spoke, and pushed a resolution upon an organization that is a mere 15 months away from a generational superstar hitting the free-agent market amid an unprecedented cap boom. Serge Ibaka is out at least a month after a knee scope, raising the possibility that he will miss some or all of the first round should the Thunder make it. A healthy Thunder team without Ibaka is still a dangerous animal, but it is hard to see them defending well enough to topple the juggernaut Warriors — the league’s best scoring team.

The championship odds got longer with Ibaka’s injury, and the risk/reward of Durant pushing through tilted more toward the “risk” side. When Durant’s foot started hurting on Thursday, everything pointed to this choice. The Jones fracture in Durant’s right foot should eventually heal fine if Durant spends enough time away from basketball, according to several trainers and foot specialists. Playing on it now, after a second surgery and these complications, carried a long-term risk of reinjury and created a situation that medical experts began to describe as untenable over the last 48 hours.

The Thunder and Durant are making the right choice, but it comes at a huge cost to the organization: It has likely lost its last chance to chase a ring with Durant before he becomes the most talked-about expiring contract since LeBron James in 2009-10.

 

[D'Evils]

 

[jasonblacc]

They would have swept Toronto if it wasnt for the injuries; Look how easy it was for them to score, those 12 mins kd played; mofo was on leg, him and boogie and klay and iggy; and Toronto couldnt do nothing with them....

I hate these type nonsense

KD player a 12 minutes

If he played the whole series your acting as if they wouldn’t have had to deal with adjustments. Clippers beat them twice and so did the rockets either tram is as good as the Raptors.

 

[LSN]

Kd go where kyrie go. Roc nation sports. Do the math

I will by subtracting you from the conversation

 

[LSN]

uh oh...so much for portland east?

I heard rumblings we are willing to max butler in which case we’d let dlo (RFA) sign w/ another team and not match...allegedly we’re not too crazy about the idea of maxing tobias harris as a consolation prize in which case we might keep dlo or see if he’s open to a sign and trade...all speculation...if we get kyrie and no one else and lose dlo then it’s kind of hard to be excited

 

[SpiritualPorn]

I haven't. That's why I hate them muthafuckas. Why can't Klay have a fucking ego and want to do his own thing like Kyrie?!

Ironically, the way this went down might keep Durant there. He got the validation of everyone knowing that the Warriors can't win without him so he might not feel the need to go somewhere else and prove he can win "on his own".

Who is to say that's a real story? Draymond was talking big shit to Durant.

The press would like us to believe they are players motivation. I'm sure they are to some.

However, this same season we saw Kareem selling championship rings.

When all is said and done, it's about that money.

The talking heads have a herd mentality as well. They do very little research about the topics they discuss past stats. Their personal biases and prejudices take over.

 

[SpiritualPorn]

This is why I hate this era of hot take sports media. Talking heads create a narrative about a player & casual fans will run with whatever these fools say.

Not even the casual fan. Dudes post this shit like it's the truth.

How could anyone believe that Kawai "Apple Time" story?

These guys get caught making up stuff all the time. Not exaggerating, pure Fabrications.

How can Brian Windhorst be from the area, supposedly know these people in Cleveland, yet never has broken a major NBA story? That fat fucker doesn't even look like somebody I would want anywhere near my team let alone an insider. He comes off low-key racist.

Yet, he gets a lot of airtime his opinions seem valid.

 

[SpiritualPorn]

A lot of "NBA insiders" should be fired if KD comes back.

A lot of these NBA insiders aren't that at all. They are just entertainers and story tellers.

They have it easy. If their predictions are right, then they look knowledgeable. If wrong, trash the person/team that you were wrong about.

Instead of giving LeBron credit for coming back from 3-1, they say "if Green wasn't suspended" while failing to mention Green should have been suspended for being "The Nutcracker" when down 3-1 to the Thunder.

GSW has gotten away with being a dirty team for a while.

 

[Day_Carver]

I hate these type nonsense

KD player a 12 minutes

If he played the whole series your acting as if they wouldn’t have had to deal with adjustments. Clippers beat them twice and so did the rockets either tram is as good as the Raptors.

I'm acting as if which team is better. Toronto was having a hard time stopping GS with a hurt klay, boogie, and iggy, with no KD; they knew KD was gonna play game 5; GS got anything they wanted with KD and the rest of them playing on 1 fucking leg; it's not rocket science to recognize and see how much easier the game would have been for GS, if they wasn't hurt; GS would have won the series easily like I said. But it is what it is....

 

[Amajorfucup]

uh oh...so much for portland east?

I heard rumblings we are willing to max butler in which case we’d let dlo (RFA) sign w/ another team and not match...allegedly we’re not too crazy about the idea of maxing tobias harris as a consolation prize in which case we might keep dlo or see if he’s open to a sign and trade...all speculation...if we get kyrie and no one else and lose dlo then it’s kind of hard to be excited

Knew they couldnt co-exist. But was looking forward to watching the disaster unfold.

 

[Amajorfucup]

I'm acting as if which team is better. Toronto was having a hard time stopping GS with a hurt klay, boogie, and iggy, with no KD; they knew KD was gonna play game 5; GS got anything they wanted with KD and the rest of them playing on 1 fucking leg; it's not rocket science to recognize and see how much easier the game would have been for GS, if they wasn't hurt; GS would have won the series easily like I said. But it is what it is....

 

[LordSinister]

Like my post if my squad ruined your franchise and now you feel good cause you might actually have a chance due to the injury/free agent situation

Some ninjas is so happy now. Houston, Philly, Milwaukee, Denver and LA if we get the Brow have a legit shot at the finals. It is what it is, but I'm not cheering for dudes giving it their all for a championship. I saw the Original IT do it in the Finals and that's how we grew up. Winning was the most important thing.

 

[Llano]

Not even the casual fan. Dudes post this shit like it's the truth.

How could anyone believe that Kawai "Apple Time" story?

These guys get caught making up stuff all the time. Not exaggerating, pure Fabrications.

How can Brian Windhorst be from the area, supposedly know these people in Cleveland, yet never has broken a major NBA story? That fat fucker doesn't even look like somebody I would want anywhere near my team let alone an insider. He comes off low-key racist.

Yet, he gets a lot of airtime his opinions seem valid.

There's no more true journalism in sports. Everybody wants to be the next Stephen A & get a multimillion dollar show, that's the goal for all of them.

Windhorst, the majority of these cacs along with that coon Whitlock are jealous fucks of athletes and want to steal their shine.

 

[SamSneed]

There's no more true journalism in sports. Everybody wants to be the next Stephen A & get a multimillion dollar show, that's the goal for all of them.

Windhorst, the majority of these cacs along with that coon Whitlock are jealous fucks of athletes and want to steal their shine.

I don’t watch that shit.

All I wanna see is highlights

 

[footloose]