Mueller Report Out! (AG Barr Edition: download within)

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You see this

 

[Spectrum]

Exactly.

 

[Maxxam]

I remember Bill Clinton making a remark during Bush's first term... Americans would rather have someone who is strong and wrong than weak and right.

Dems almost always look weak

 

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Also after watching Elizabeth Warren’s interview on Rachel... Ive been pulled to the impeachment side...

but I still say.. Hold off until Mueller testifies after Barr...

I still think you have to have Mueller day in front of people “I intended Congress to make the decision on Obstruction”

If he says that.. Republicans who hinder that proceeding are on the clock.

I think that's what they're gunning for. I don't think they should do that though.... again, it's punting things to Mueller.

 

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Also that Mayor Buttigreg dude is fucking Rising right now...

He took so much of Beto's shine.

 

[fonzerrillii]

Mueller seems to walk a tight rope. If he didn't flat out recommend an impeachment suggestion or clear obstruction conclusion in his report then why would he in front of congress? If anything, I would expect him to answer questions like he wrote in his report. Essentially presenting the facts as investigated and written in his report. Pretty much sticking to that tightrope walk and basically saying Congress is going to have to make a final decision on what to do with the information.

Cause he is a straight shooter...

He said in his report that he felt that Congress was the one that needed to decide the criminality of a sitting president... or that sitting president could be charged when he left office..

So they can ask him... why did you go into details about the specific grounds of each element of obstruction.. (his answer will be because I was authorized to disclose crimes discovered in my investigation)....

Then the follow up would be... then why didn’t you specifically say that you found obstruction... (he would say that based on DoJ we can not charge a sitting president... therefore my report was written for others to decide... (paraphrasing) but that is what he said.

So then you would ask... so ultimately who did you write the report for... in my opinion he will refer to the two grounds that he stated as to how the decision of obstruction should be decided...

The one thing Mueller will not do.. is say that In his opinion as to the evidence ... on culpability .. if I was approaching this under normal prosecutorial standards.. I would have found that beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed obstruction...

He is too much of a straight shooter to do that.. knowing that DOJ can’t indict him as a sitting president... his statement could impact any possible future proceedings.



But Mueller could say that based on the evidence I don’t think I was presented with enough to determine if an indictment could be brought on obstruction..

And that is my worry ... and why I think Dems have to be careful how they do this.

 

[tical]

Very well said. Shit is beyond troubling & disturbing.

I don't think a lot of us fully appreciate where you have to be in your head to continue supporting a human being like Trump.
I've been saying from Day 1, if you've ever wondered how so many could carry out the crazy atrocities of dictators like Hitler and Mussolini then look no further.

I'm going to say something that a few of us have stated previous. When/if Trump wins the next election there is a serious chance that he's never leaving office afterwards. Deadly serious!

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

I don't think a lot of us fully appreciate where you have to be in your head to continue supporting a human being like Trump.
I've been saying from Day 1, if you've ever wondered how so many could carry out the crazy atrocities of dictators like Hitler and Mussolini then look no further.

I'm going to say something that a few of us have stated previous. When/if Trump wins the next election there is a serious chance that he's never leaving office afterwards. Deadly serious!

It's so fucked up. A played-out bad dream / nightmare which continues to play out on a day-2-day basis. Psychosis.

 

[tical]

Cause he is a straight shooter...

He said in his report that he felt that Congress was the one that needed to decide the criminality of a sitting president... or that sitting president could be charged when he left office..

So they can ask him... why did you go into details about the specific grounds of each element of obstruction.. (his answer will be because I was authorized to disclose crimes discovered in my investigation)....

Then the follow up would be... then why didn’t you specifically say that you found obstruction... (he would say that based on DoJ we can not charge a sitting president... therefore my report was writing for others to decide... (paraphrasing) but that is what he said.

So then you would ask... so ultimately who did you write the report for... in my opinion he will refer to the two grounds that he stated as to how the decision of obstruction should be decided...

The one thing Mueller will not do.. is say that In his opinion as to the evidence ... on culpability .. if I was approaching this under normal prosecutorial standards.. I would have found that beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump committed obstruction...

He is too much of a straight shooter to do that.. knowing that DOJ can’t indict him as a sitting president... his straight could impact any possible proceedings.



But Mueller could say that based on the evidence I don’t think I was presented with enough to determine if an indictment could be brought on obstruction..

And that is my worry ... and why I think Dems have to be careful how they do this.

^^^Beautiful! This type of back and forth is exactly the form of exchange I would expect. Dems are in a rough place. Because, ultimately, they don't have the numbers nor the Senate to do any real and immediate harm to Trump. If anything, going through all this and coming out on the other side would likely present symbolically for Trump and his party. Sentiments along the lines of "You can't hurt God's chosen one!" being a rallying call.

 

[Ing4life]

This shit got people going at it, and shooting out death threats.

 

[Spectrum]

This shit got people going at it, and shooting out death threats.

yooo

 

[tical]

This shit got people going at it, and shooting out death threats.

Almost guaranteed that this is going to get much worst. Folks weren't lying when they said Trump was going to help rip this country apart. Mean while the rest of the world and especially Russia is loving it. Everything is going according to plan. Rip them from the inside out!

 

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yo @Ing4life There is no way the country lasts 6 more years of this shit

 

[Spectrum]

This is why we need public hearings and this is why I specifically mentioned her before

 

[gene cisco]

I don't know man. Obama from my knowledge never faced against the other candidate and their Russian sponsors. This isn't your typical election climate anymore where a rockstar can rock on and win with straight swag! This is some Kremlin sponsored deep state KGB massive operation which I think you're not giving enough credit too.

I suspect they tried and to some degree have influenced some elections. But they haven't, until Trump, found a person indebted and greedy at all cost to sign up for their help. There's more than enough that's been reported and in the M.report itself to show how deeply ingrained they were in the election process.

BTW, you're right about the House. But consider, that's multiple elections across the country to logistically try to influence whereas the Presidency is about two people. The incumbent and the challenger which makes counterINTEL a lot easier to manage, implement and manipulate accordingly.

Obama also didn't face this 'eat your own' version of the left, but he's such a master politician that he might be the the only one capable of holding this motley crew that is the left together. Obama would beat Trump simply because he transcends Russian bots, Fox News, and Raw Story type shit. And lets face it, we have a country where a lot of voters are getting info from clickbait blogs that go viral on social media. Our elections will never be the same.

We can blame it on Russia and their tampering efforts, but Trump reached out to people that Obama talked to and Hillary basically told to piss off. He's deeply flawed and lies, but he is also blunt and truthful at times. That's what attracts people to him. He comes to these cacs in the midwest and tells them guys like him took their jobs and he's there to fix it. The left wants to focus on his Muslim and Wall rants.

Consider that this is the same guy that establishment republicans hated and democrats, not Russians, have helped transformed him into a republican god. Who keeps repeating the same mistakes in this fight?

Maaaan, the fact he would have interfered successfully but for the fact his aides refused to cooperate is damning enough. The level of corruption unveiled in the portions of the report we have access to is stunning.



You're definitely right that the presumptive Dem candidate will need to speak to what they stand for rather than campaigning solely on opposition to Trump. Most of the front runners seem to understand this already.

There's a world in which holding Trump accountable for his fuckery while campaigning on a platform of Democratic priorities aren't mutually exclusive.

Yeah, you can hold him accountable, but if the goal is to avoid 4 more years of Trump, I'd make focusing on this Russian shit secondary. If being in office is protecting him, shouldn't the goal be to oust him from the protection as soon as possible?

 

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[Amajorfucup]

Exactly.

Just getting time to look at shit.. Its alot man... And Silver needs to stfu. He had one job in november 2016 as a numbers and analytics guy. He failed miserably.

He took so much of Beto's shine.

Lets be honest.. the entire lot is a shit show. There is only one person who can beat Trump as of today. One.

This shit got people going at it, and shooting out death threats.

I wish April Ryan would shut up sometimes.

 

[cashwhisperer]

Also after watching Elizabeth Warren’s interview on Rachel... Ive been pulled to the impeachment side...

but I still say.. Hold off until Mueller testifies after Barr...

I still think you have to have Mueller day in front of people “I intended Congress to make the decision on Obstruction”

If he says that.. Republicans who hinder that proceeding are on the clock.

 

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[tical]

Obama also didn't face this 'eat your own' version of the left, but he's such a master politician that he might be the the only one capable of holding this motley crew that is the left together. Obama would beat Trump simply because he transcends Russian bots, Fox News, and Raw Story type shit. And lets face it, we have a country where a lot of voters are getting info from clickbait blogs that go viral on social media. Our elections will never be the same.

We can blame it on Russia and their tampering efforts, but Trump reached out to people that Obama talked to and Hillary basically told to piss off. He's deeply flawed and lies, but he is also blunt and truthful at times. That's what attracts people to him. He comes to these cacs in the midwest and tells them guys like him took their jobs and he's there to fix it. The left wants to focus on his Muslim and Wall rants.

Consider that this is the same guy that establishment republicans hated and democrats, not Russians, have helped transformed him into a republican god. Who keeps repeating the same mistakes in this fight?

That was before when he had the mystique of being an unknown and made promises. Moreover, his economical growth has completely been from the foundation and reserves left to him by his predecessor. Outside of that he's not added to this nation at all and rather has his taken away from it a great deal.

But we're in agreement on the Dem-side. If they're going to have a chance at all then they need to unite under "one flag and one person" sorta speak. The Dems, right now, are speaking with multiple voices which means they really have no voice. Whereas, Furor Trump speaks with one voice and everyone gets behind him no matter what.

The Dems, as we spoke about previously, need to systematically attack and amplify all the negatives of the Trump record. Which is nowhere as pristine as he claims and not let up. Voters need to truly see how bad of a President he has been for the country.

They've let him escape the repercussions of the failed N.Korea business. T
They've let him escape the disastrous consequences of his health care strategy etc.
They're not talking about the economical growth that starting to slow down.

Those are the things that's more likely to resonant with the everyday American.

 

[BDR]

He took so much of Beto's shine.

Booty judge ain’t no joke...

 

[Amajorfucup]

Booty judge ain’t no joke...

Fagget.

 

[Big Tex]

yooo

Wow!

 

[Big Tex]

Just getting time to look at shit.. Its alot man... And Silver needs to stfu. He had one job in november 2016 as a numbers and analytics guy. He failed miserably.

Lets be honest.. the entire lot is a shit show. There is only one person who can beat Trump as of today. One.

I wish April Ryan would shut up sometimes.

People think Biden will win back white working class voters because he’s biden. Who do you think are the main maga folks. If biden isn’t talking about kicking out Mexicans and muslims, they’ll ride with Trump again.

 

[Amajorfucup]

People think Biden will win back white working class voters because he’s biden. Who do you think are the main maga folks. If biden isn’t talking about kicking out Mexicans and muslims, they’ll ride with Trump again.

Biden is a walking disaster. I wasnt talking about him.

 

[Big Tex]

Biden is a walking disaster. I wasnt talking about him.

Ok good lol

 

[easy_b]

Biden is a walking disaster. I wasnt talking about him.

Hey I like Joe better than Bernie

 

[fonzerrillii]

Almost guaranteed that this is going to get much worst. Folks weren't lying when they said Trump was going to help rip this country apart. Mean while the rest of the world and especially Russia is loving it. Everything is going according to plan. Rip them from the inside out!

Man I'm avoiding twitter right now... Cause the RIGHT on on there talking straight up nonsense... And it's Cause you have fucking Verified Repubs on Twitter.. Straight up Lying to people..

Like this shit.. How the fuck can you read this report and honestly think these things.. they cant..
These figure heads know the Repub Base... Ain't reading shit..

 

[fonzerrillii]

We live in a World where the President Retweeted a Dude that said DNC Circle Jerk..



Seriously...

 

[fonzerrillii]

Jesus Fucking CHRIST... What the hell is he talking about




Repubs are straight up Making up Shit off the top of their dome..

 

[tical]

Man I'm avoiding twitter right now... Cause the RIGHT on on there talking straight up nonsense... And it's Cause you have fucking Verified Repubs on Twitter.. Straight up Lying to people..

Like this shit.. How the fuck can you read this report and honestly think these things.. they cant..
These figure heads know the Repub Base... Ain't reading shit..

We live in a World where the President Retweeted a Dude that said DNC Circle Jerk..



Seriously...

Jesus Fucking CHRIST... What the hell is he talking about




Repubs are straight up Making up Shit off the top of their dome..

This stuff is willful and to say it's dangerous is an egregious understandment. I talk about Psychology quite a bit for an illuminating purpose. Only a person(s) in such a state of extreme Psychosis can say and do the things you're posting everyday and not bat an eyelid. You truly have to see and process information deviantly.

The scary part and IMO the most dangerous part is it doesn't stop there.

Let's take the Immigration border thing as an example

How much of a leap does it take to view border crossings as an "invasion" of your country to viewing those "animals" as invaders to "shooting them on sight?"

This administration wouldn't lose a single vote!

 

[easy_b]

We live in a World where the President Retweeted a Dude that said DNC Circle Jerk..



Seriously...

Republicans are very stupid to think that is going to do anything in Waters district.

 

[Nzinga]

Republicans are very stupid to think that is going to do anything in Waters district.

They are trying to recast the narrative, unfortunately,
the facts simply damn Trump. The power now rests
with the Democrats; It is that simple. What are they
gonna do with it..

and remember

a. The man has been implicated in a felony in Federal Court, where he is Defendant No1. in the Michael Cohen case
b. He has conflict on interest issues
c. He has issues of self-dealing and nepotism
d. Mueller has cited him for 10 instances of obstruction of justice..


On collusion, the only thing left for Mueller to nail the bugger was to get Randy Critco to admit
that either he or Roger Stone were the ones talking Gucifer 2.0... Everything else is there. This
is like knowing that the rapist raped, and the woman was raped; and the only thing left to ascertain is
whether the nut in the woman belongs to the rapist...but then the rapist fires the police
commissioner and hire a new one who terminates the investigation

 

[older version]

Hate to sound like a Debbie Downer about her tweets but a hearing ain't healing us. A black family being in the WH for 2 terms with complete class woke up a dormant part of this country. They were still there yes but it feels like the Civil Rights era at times now. Just more code words used. We are broken for good.

Yeah man, she sounds like an operative for Elizabeth Warren more than anything else to me. Tweets like hers serve a confirmation bias.
In the end what you said is true. We had a Black President and their side had their own confirmation biases like "Obama is a muslim" "not born in America" etc.
so much that they believed it and Trump was at the forefront of that shit and used it to his advantage.

Obama was a two term President, and all their jibber jabber amounted to nothing when it came to the elections. They felt broken I guess.

Yes we have been thrown back to a time some of these cats have not seen but they are acting like we live in Utopia. If we lived in that kind
of situation, why do people think the movements and understanding of Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois, Khalid Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad, and Malcom X gained popularity?
These movements were fulfilling a need and we may get to hear the same things being said again once our people get frustrated with this
sinister system again.

 

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