Mueller Report Out! (AG Barr Edition: download within)

Yeah. When they vote "no", they'll all be on the record willfully supporting a criminal. Make them commit to it...otherwise, when they're back up for election and Trump isn't on the ballot, they'll see they would have handled things differently but it clearly wasn't important enough for the Dems to impeach so "what could they do?" while Trump was burning everything down.

An impeachment trial would put everything on the record.
Also look how many already done fell on the sword due to Trump.. .Bitch ass Paul Ryan was Speaker of the house and was like

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Oh. He's not going to jail and that's only possible once he's out of office. I have zero faith in wealthy whites..especially a former POTUS being put in prison even when he's out of office. However, he's likely already got sealed indictments waiting for him once he's out of office.
you know the SDNY already has him on the hook.
 
I agree with you here. I don't think there is any way they move forward without hearing from Mueller first.

With the early conclusions being drawn up by the various news reporters covering this case yesterday, There's no place yet to go.

As I said earlier Mueller must be protected until he appears before the House. Mueller's testimony will seal the deal on Trump.
 
I understand that.
He will not be a sitting president forever.
Get that fucker under oath.

Chances of him going to jail without impeachment ...0

Chances of him going to jail with impeachment... greater than zero

Chances of Republicans bringing him up on impeachment...0

Chances of Democrats bringing charges..

:giggle:...zero.

Ths SDNY is waiting for him to get out of office so the chance of him going to jail are the same with or without impeachment
 
After reading this report, it's clear that they need to push forward. If he's not impeached, the power of the House to impeach is worthless. He's wildly abusing his power.

exactly they gotta do it on principal
people are so scared of trump's "base"
nearly no one gave him a chance b4 the election
now ppl are terrified of stirring up the gop base
looks like he needed foreign interference just to get in
like you said the constitution is meaningless if the dems don't go on offense here
just appoint him king if you're not going to fight against this shit
i want everybody to testify esp Mueller
 
Watching CNN people in the middle of the country are stupid and don't care. The talking points worked. They are used to CSI and tv dramas that wrap up in 2 weeks.

They won't care until 15 years from now when the movie drops then they will say "I had no idea all of this happened!" "Nobody ever told us this was going on!"

Microwave mentality and social media has their minds WAF.

Sadly
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Oh. He didn't literally say, "you have to stop the investigation today". However, he took steps to do that very thing. For instance, he made Mueller release Flynn from his cooperating agreement. He asked him if there was an immediate charge being filed directly because of Flynn's cooperation. Mueller said no. Barr made him release him. That's one example of him forcing a wind-down indirectly. Barr is too smart to directly say "this is over". He can do it in other ways without being directly accused of shutting it down.

Also, we don't know if Mueller feels like it was slowed down. We don't know what Mueller thinks because we didn't get his unedited summary nor has he spoken publicly about it.

Maybe he didn't shut it down, but a lot of coincidental things happened once Barr took over.


I think Mueller kind of stated that he was ending this sooner then he would like...

From what I got.... If he felt that he could have gotten a subpoena to force talk to trump to talk without a lengthy process... he would have done it and he was disappointed that the investigation was so limited.
 
I’ll say this about impeachment....
if the Dems do It.... you start the process either in the fall or next year... let the hearings on it Cloud Trump’s (re-election) campaign...

No need to rush this... wait until after Barr and Mueller testify. Muellers testimony as to what he found on obstruction are key...

If he says... I left it up to Congress to decide then you impeach trump...

Force Repubs to say... We disagree with Muellers statements and want to move on..

Then make all of them bitches... appear complicit
But Dems have to be careful


Mueller is also a straight shooter

If he says on the record that ... Even though we found evidence of possible acts of obstruction...If I was judging this under normal prosecutorial standards ... I don’t think we have enough to find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.. so I would not have recommended a criminal obstruction charge.

That’s the potential problem... He says that.. then all shit is basically off the table and the Democrats would appear to Be doing shit For no reason...


That’s another reason... Why Dems have to be careful with this.

We don’t have a sworn lie on the record for trump like we did for Clinton.
 
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I think Mueller kind of stated that he was ending this sooner then he would like...

From what I got.... If he felt that he could have gotten a subpoena to force talk to trump to talk without a lengthy process... he would have done it and he was disappointed that the investigation was so limited.

Also remember, Barr would have had to approve the subpoena request. Which now, I have doubts he would have done. The real questions mueller needs to be asked is if he felt pressured by Barr to finish prematurely.
 
I’ll say this about impeachment....
if the Dems do.... you start the process either in the fall or next year... let the hearings on it Cloud Trump’s (re-election) campaign...

No need to rush this... wait until after Barr and Mueller testify. Muellers testimony as to what he found on obstruction are key...

If he says... I left it up to Congress to decide then you impeach trump...

Force Repubs to say... We disagree with Muellers statements and want to move on..

Then make all of them bitches... appear complicit
But Dems have to be careful


Mueller is also a straight shooter

If he says on the record that ... Even though we found evidence of possible acts of obstruction...If I was judging this under normal prosecutorial ... I would not have recommended criminal obstruction charge.

That’s the potential problem... He says that.. then all shit is basically off the table and the Democrats would appear to Be doing shit For no reason...


That’s another reason... Why Dems have to be careful with this.

We don’t have a sworn lie on the record for trump like we did for Clinton.

100%.

And you make Trump’s no collusion and no obstruction talk look right and his fake news talk look right.
 
100%.

And you make Trump’s no collusion and no obstruction talk look right and his fake news talk look right.

He's going to do that anyway! He's literally going to run on that regardless of whether he's impeached or not. He can't give someone a card he's already playing!

However, he can't deny Congress in the way he denied Mueller.
 
Now couple that above with this. Remember Barr said Mueller laid out both sides of the argument on the obstruction examples. Except for the fact that we don't see that in those examples from the report. He made the case for obstruction with no counter-arguments. We know Barr wouldn't have redacted the counterarguments so what he just LYING in his memo?



Exactly...

Here is the thing..... Mueller did that twice..

Remember when I talked about how it ended up being nothing when it came to Trump’s editing the letter... and mueller did that when going over another instance of possible obstruction...

But that’s like two out of 10 possible acts of Obstruction..... Mueller did not hold anything back on the Flynn, Comey, and McGahn situation...

The McGahn situation alone is damning enough... Mueller used substantial evidence several times and directly said the president tried to hinder the Russian investigation...

That’s why I continue to say... that I don’t think Kats in the media really read this thing...

This shit is fucking damning...

If I were Cummings... I’d definitely bring McGahn , Corey, and Priebus to testify...

This shit is going to be good
 


It’s too late now

Unless it includes sworn testimony from Trump... this report means shit...

Plus there is no way that Rudy’s team would have the investigatory access like Mueller...

Like are you going to ask Bannon for a statement and dude is going to say something different then was he testified too...

Man this shit show is fucking Amazing. I can’t get enough of it
 
It’s too late now

Unless it includes sworn testimony from Trump... this report means shit...

Plus there is no way that Rudy’s team would have the investigatory access like Mueller...

Like are you going to ask Bannon for a statement and dude is going to say something different then was he testified too...

Man this shit show is fucking Amazing. I can’t get enough of it

This is the fox news of reports. Just gives republican false talking points.
 
At least half those people think impeachment means removal. And when he is not removed they’re going to be dejected.

And he is not going to be held accountable. Not really. What if he doesn’t fight the house impeachment at all just to get to the Senate before the election? Everyone just pleads the fifth and doesn’t delay so the vote happens quickly. What happens to the base is at the end of all this, not only is Trumo still in office, not only have Dems used their big gun on him, but the only thing that has been done to him is that he has been found not guilty.

Then the next time he does something crazy he can look at the Dems and say impeach me again, i fucking dare you.

Look he should be impeached and he probably will. I’ll just say this, when it happens I don’t want to hear no shit about no voting from anyone on the left. His supporters are going to be as white hot about voting in 2020 as Dems were in 2018.

And I don’t want to hear any crying that he’s still in office after it’s over because there’s no chance he won’t be.


I completely agree with you.. that’s why I say... if you pull the trigger wait until end of the year or early 2020.... there are a lot of repub seats open next year..

Shit will be interesting...

But to make this happen... you have to get the unredacted report and testimony in public from key people related to the report...

If you have McGahn say in front of the American people that I resigned because I felt that what the president asked me to do was illegal...

If he says... I felt like I was trapped (the same line he used in the report) then you have your headline right there.
 
If I were Cummings... I’d definitely bring McGahn , Corey, and Priebus to testify...

This shit is going to be good

Even this highly-redacted report should be enough for them to start setting up public hearings....at a minimum. If you don't officially impeach Trump, you go full speed putting the pressure on them with an all-out investigation in others ways that COULD lead to a formal impeachment trial.
 
The McGahn situation alone is damning enough... Mueller used substantial evidence several times and directly said the president tried to hinder the Russian investigation...

He literally says that he couldn't draw conclusions on certain items because of the noncooperation of Trump and his associates (especially on Russia-related matters). Barr came out leading with "Trump fully cooperated with the investigation" yet the report shows he clearly didn't and tried to obstruct at every opportunity.
 
Even this highly-redacted report should be enough for them to start setting up public hearings....at a minimum. If you don't officially impeach Trump, you go full speed putting the pressure on them with an all-out investigation in others ways that COULD lead to a formal impeachment trial.

Yeap.. this is what the playbook should be and I hope that it is what they are about to do...

Which is why I’m telling people that bringing impeachment right now.. like tomorrow is a mistake..

Have the hearings... put these people on record... have your show.... then bring impeachment after the public hears from some of the main people involved.

We will also get more shit after Roger Stones trial...

Until his trial is over... the public probably want see the redacted sections...

But I’ll tell you this ... and it’s based on a footnote that I read...

If Roger stone is convicted or pleads... and that section is still redacted....... then we have some huge questions about who that person is.
 
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