MONDAY NIGHT WARS BACK IN EFFECT WWE v TNA v AEW aka The Pro Wrestling Thread

[EPDC]

That's they're style. Telling a high flyer/ Luchador not to do a high spot is like telling The Undertaker not to do the Tombstone Pile driver. It's all risky stuff. That's wrestling.

Bullshit. A pile driver is a wrestling move. Big E’s injury was an accident. This spot was negligence. There was no need to do this spot other than to pop the crowd for a quick ten seconds, Penta had the belts right there in his hands and instead decides to do a Canadian destroyer off a ladder onto two sets of tables outside the ring? TK needs to stop encouraging this shit. Sloppy shop for real.

 

[blackman80]

I watched this week show of AEW Dynamite!!..It was ok!!....I like the Kenny Omega vs Jeff Cobb match!!..I knew that Danielson was going to turn on Omega when he got in the ring!!..The Blackpool Combat Club is kicking everyone asses in AEW!!..lol.....That MJF and Jungle Boy segment was good!!...

It was a ok show!!

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

Rhea in that dress....

 

[Mastermind2002]

Bullshit. A pile driver is a wrestling move.

Which not done properly can INJURE someone. Steve Austin broke his neck from a botched pile driver. Sloppy shop?

Big E’s injury was an accident.

As was this.

This spot was negligence. There was no need to do this spot other than to pop the crowd for a quick ten seconds, Penta had the belts right there in his hands and instead decides to do a Canadian destroyer off a ladder onto two sets of tables outside the ring? TK needs to stop encouraging this shit. Sloppy shop for real.

The wrestlers wanted to do that spot. It was structured into the match. The spot didn't go as planned and resulted in a injury therefore it was an accident. The whole style of Lucha Libre is to be flashy and pop the crowd. It involves a lot of risky high spots.That's the whole point. It has zero to do with negligence and more to do with your ignorance.

 

[Mastermind2002]

 

[Mastermind2002]

So basically Rick Steiner is transphobic.

 

[NightMare Paint]

So basically Rick Steiner is transphobic.

The most shocking thing to me is that it wasn't Scott yelling random shit at strangers for once

 

[c_commander]

Accidents happen bro. Is it also sloppy shop when Big E got hurt?

Big E got hurt because of spot that was supposed to advance a story that was dumb because of how Big E is built this was just a dumb spot in the middle of a spotfest

 

[EPDC]

Which not done properly can INJURE someone. Steve Austin broke his neck from a botched pile driver. Sloppy shop?



As was this.



The wrestlers wanted to do that spot. It was structured into the match. The spot didn't go as planned and resulted in a injury therefore it was an accident. The whole style of Lucha Libre is to be flashy and pop the crowd. It involves a lot of risky high spots.That's the whole point. It has zero to do with negligence and more to do with your ignorance.

I get it. You like the Flippy shit and will always cape for it.

That spot did not advance the story and was just a move done to pop the crowd.

Big E got hurt because of spot that was supposed to advance a story that was dumb because of how Big E is built this was just a dumb spot in the middle of a spotfest

Exactly. The Big E injury, like the Austin injury he mentioned above were accidents that happened. Same thing with Droz/DLo Brown.

Accidents happen in wrestling.

This shit that happened last night was no accident. It was negligence due to a bunch of spot monkeys doing spot monkey shit that doesn't advance the story.

Last week, Vikingo almost broke his neck doing spot monkey shit...but it "looks cool"....

The Lucha Bros minus whale wrestle blowup dolls if they want to do all that spot monkey shit.

 

[c_commander]

So basically Rick Steiner is transphobic.

Not a surprise unfortunately

 

[Mastermind2002]

I get it. You like the Flippy shit and will always cape for it.

That spot did not advance the story and was just a move done to pop the crowd.

Here we go with that narrow minded, one size fits all WWE way of thinking again. Not every move done in a Lucha Libre style match is suppose to advance a story. That's what you guys don't seem to understand. Spotfests is what Lucha Libre is. It's suppose to pop the crowd. They do this shit all the time in Mexico. Sometimes accidents happen.

This shit that happened last night was no accident. It was negligence due to a bunch of spot monkeys doing spot monkey shit that doesn't advance the story.

You can take those WWE sunglasses off at anytime. This is what happens when you see things from a narrow scope.

Last week, Vikingo almost broke his neck doing spot monkey shit...but it "looks cool"....

Vikingo did a signature move that he does ALL the damn time. He did the same move last night at ROH Supercard Of Honor. It's a spot that's he's known for but you wouldn't know that Mr. Casual.

]The Lucha Bros minus whale wrestle blowup dolls if they want to do all that spot monkey shit.

Your ignorance is showing big time Bro but don't worry Wrestlemaina starts today. Aren't you happy?

 

[Mastermind2002]

Big E got hurt because of spot that was supposed to advance a story that was dumb because of how Big E is built this was just a dumb spot in the middle of a spotfest

Whether a spot that results in injury advances a story or not is irrelevant. Different styles emphasize different things.

 

[Mastermind2002]

The most shocking thing to me is that it wasn't Scott yelling random shit at strangers for once

Yeah you figure that would be a Scott Steiner thing.

 

[chrislee]

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

From clotheslines to 450 splashes, you can get hurt doing any wrestling move. It doesn't matter what style, what organization, what intention - accidents happen.

And it's just weird as fuck that y'all are using injuries to fuel your biases and tribalism.

 

[Mastermind2002]

From clotheslines to 450 splashes, you can get hurt doing any wrestling move. It doesn't matter what style, what organization, what intention - accidents happen.

And it's just weird as fuck that y'all are using injuries to fuel your biases and tribalism.

BINGO!

 

[XXXplosive]

God damn! Fuck! Top Flight can't catch a break. No pun intended.

SMH. These fools gonna learn one day about all these dumbass flips, dives and high spots.
Even this indy basement mark that y'all love agrees it was pointless.
One day, one of them gonna end up paralyzed or dead.

 

[Mastermind2002]

SMH. These fools gonna learn one day about all these dumbass flips, dives and high spots.
One day, one of them gonna end up paralyzed or dead.

That's the risk you take with Lucha Libre and other styles of wrestling. Injuries are gonna happen period regardless of style.

 

[XXXplosive]

That's the risk you take with Lucha Libre and other styles of wrestling. Injuries are gonna happen period regardless of style.

A lot of this shit barely resembles wrestling anymore and comes off more like gymnastics and wanna-be cirque du soleil.

 

[NightMare Paint]

From clotheslines to 450 splashes, you can get hurt doing any wrestling move. It doesn't matter what style, what organization, what intention - accidents happen.

And it's just weird as fuck that y'all are using injuries to fuel your biases and tribalism.

Perro Aguayo Jr. died doing basic bumps. Every match is really a roll of the dice.

 

[EPDC]

Perro Aguayo Jr. died doing basic bumps. Every match is really a roll of the dice.

Y'all are making my point. Yes, every match is a roll of the dice. Why the fuck would you want to add EXTRA risk doing this dumb shit that again, does not move the story of a wrestling match?

 

[c_commander]

Yeah you figure that would be a Scott Steiner thing.

Rick Steiner is on the school board of Cherokee County in Georgia. They made sure to go after CRT which isn't taught, for example, so him being transphobic is not a surprise.

White Parents Rallied to Chase a Black Educator Out of Town. Then, They Followed Her to the Next One.

Cecelia Lewis was asked to apply for a Georgia school district’s first-ever administrator job devoted to diversity, equity and inclusion. A group of parents — coached by local and national anti-CRT groups — had other plans.

www.propublica.org

The beautiful thing about wrestling is the various styles from strong style to technical wrestling to lucha libre,etc. To say that anyone who doesn't like the flippy shit is some WWE fanboy is ridiculous when they have some of this too but it isn't done to a ridiculous degree where a highspot is done a mile a minute often thru furniture in the majority of the matches. A canadian destroyer is extremely dangerous, one off the top rope even more so. A canadian destroyer off of the top rope not the turnbuckle onto to tables that are supposed to break onto the floor(not the ring which is better cushioned than the floor) 10 feet below is reckless and/or stupid. Hell Fenix got his arm broken this time last year doing something from the ring to the floor involving a table that wasn't even a quarter as dangerous as the spot last night.

 

[c_commander]

Whether a spot that results in injury advances a story or not is irrelevant. Different styles emphasize different things.

Actually it does matter. It's one thing to try to advance a story and another to do something just for the sake of doing something. Don't you like Kenny Omega matches because many of them particularly vs Okada harken back to previous spots and matches as a form of storytelling?

 

[fu2]

Don't know if anyone is watching (or even noticed) that NXT Stand and Deliver is on but it's been ok so far. Glad they are giving Indi a shot at holding the women's title.

For the tag title match I thought it was funny that Booker T legit didn't seem to know who the person was that interfered and needed an explanation

 

[Mastermind2002]

A lot of this shit barely resembles wrestling anymore and comes off more like gymnastics and wanna-be cirque du soleil.

There was NEVER a golden rule of what Professional wrestling should look like or be. There were ALWAYS different styles of wrestling. That's why I never held a tribal mindset that wrestling should be a certain way. Rather I appreciate the different styles. If wrestling was all one way it would be boring.

 

[Mastermind2002]

Actually it does matter. It's one thing to try to advance a story and another to do something just for the sake of doing something.

As I explained in a previous post to @EPDC in Lucha Libre not all moves in a match are done to advance a story. Some spots are done to get a reaction from the crowd then when they're ready they'll do a spot that advances the story.

Don't you like Kenny Omega matches because many of them particularly vs Okada harken back to previous spots and matches as a form of storytelling?

That's a different style. The philosophy is completely different. I wouldn't judge a Japanese strong style match using the guidelines of Lucha Libre and vise versa. Each style should be judged within it's own perimeters.

 

[xspade7]

Stop doing dumb shit....don't do shit you don't know how to do! If i'm the booker you on a PPV be safe outthere, if you fuck my product up im sending you to developmental after the injury heals, so you can learn the basics from a veteran trainer/coach.

 

[fu2]

 

[Mastermind2002]

 

[Multi - Personality]

Dudes crazy...

 

[BK Pop]

Horrible u s title match. They could have saved that for a house show

 

[Mastermind2002]

Cena/Theory match wasn't very good and did nothing to elevate Theory with that finish. If that's all Cena is gonna do he might as well never leave Hollywood.

 

[Mastermind2002]

Good 4 way tag match. Wish it would've gotten more time but for what they did it was awesome.

 

[BK Pop]

Good 4 way tag match. Wish it would've gotten more time but for what they did it was awesome.

Yeah ricochet didn't tap into any off his movez

 

[Simply Sickenin']

If they're determined to use stadiums for Mania, I wish they'd avoid the west coast. Isn't it like 6pm over there right now?

Entrances always look better in the dark. But with this long ass stage it might not matter for most people