T-Mac 100% is a beast. a 6'7 guard with handleS??? nigguz was havin fights between him and kobe being better.
when has allen ever lead the league in scoring or have any type of mvp?
i'll wait.
Kobe named NBA 'Player of the Decade'
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T-Mac 100% is a beast. a 6'7 guard with handleS??? nigguz was havin fights between him and kobe being better.
when has allen ever lead the league in scoring or have any type of mvp?
i'll wait.
Kobe was as much Shaqs robin as Scottie was to Mike, if not more. Kobe didn't hit his prime till probably 94-95 and even had a season where they were 500 and missed the playoffs. Duncan has ALWAYS been the best player on his team for all 3 rings. I don't like duncan or kobe but duncan has this.
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You make a good point. But the criteria isnt all about scoring or an all-star MVP. The consistency of Ray Allen cant be questioned. He's also argubly the BEST shooter and free throw shooter in the history of the league. He also managed to do something Tmac never has. He's managed to get a team out of round one in his lifetime. That cant be forgotten when talking about TMac. The dude aint a winner and he has zero playoff success at age 30. For an all decade team there an argument but imma stick with Jesus (Shuttlesworth). Ill move Pierce and slide TMac to the wing spot before i move Ray.
for all of the Kobe stans lets do it like this
the winner of this award should be the player with the most Finals MVPs in the decade or the most League MVPs of the decade or both. with that math, guess who wins in a runaway
Shaq, hands down.
If you can count Kobe from 90-93 then u can definately count shaq from 97-99
the winner of this award should be the player with the most Finals MVPs in the decade or the most League MVPs of the decade or both. with that math, guess who wins in a runaway
Shaq, hands down.
If you can count Kobe from 90-93 then u can definately count shaq from 97-99
wade and lebron are entering there 7th year in the nba.
would u rather have ray on the wing or wade or lebron?
also im talking about T-mac in terms of his basketball skills.
he was a pure scorer who was unstoppable...but him not making the 2nd round crushes all that.
and faggit ass chauncey has a case.
son check yo dates
that's not bill russell-esque.
it's not even earvin johnson-esque.
and for those of you who follow sporting news' nonsense, i invite you to meet some of the writers and hold a conversation with them. the writers will tell you themselves that MUCH of what they write is junk the EDITORS pull out of their asses.
ex.
EDITOR: let's run a top 10 ______________ of all time column this week. run with it.
WRITER: ok, where should i get the top 10 from? fans? coaches? players? broadcasters?
EDITOR: nah, use these: (names 10 off the top of his head)
100% fact.
total creation, eh?
putting his talents aside, shaquille o'neal single-handedly changed the way officials called games.
in addition to that, shaquille o'neal got paychecks for A LOT of players who would've never otherwise made rosters. look back at how the WORSTern conference teams (especially PUSSific division) teams were loading almost half their rosters with beef just to attempt to counter a single player.
neither tobe nor tim duncan have had that kind of significant impact on professional basketball in this decade.
i try to tell 'em. but the homo is strong with them.
some of the writers at sporting news are very approachable and will freely volunteer their writing practices.
Makes no sense at all. Shaq was easily the most dominant player for the first half of the decade. 1 league MVP, 3 finals MVP's. The second half he's been average at best.
1st half of decade 27 ppg 12 rpg 2.5 bpg
2nd half of decade 18 ppg 9 rpg 1.7 bpg
His numbers fell drastically after left the lakers. By the time he went to Miami he was 32 and his dominant years were behind him.
Wade and Bron dont have the body of work. All-Decade emcompasses the entire decade. They only have numbers to justify half the decade. Guys on this list should have numbers spanning the entire time frame. They simply dont man.
And Chauncey doesnt really have a case. He was a journeymen who got his legs late and became a force in the mid 00's. He doesnt have the resume (for the entire decade) to go against any of the guys on those lists.
because?
Bro, he should have won MVP his first year in Miami. He was flat out robbed.
Scott Pollard alone owes Shaq 20 mil and Shaq is the main reason Duncan didn't play his rightful position of center his whole career after Robinson left.
This is for the whole decade though. He won 4 rings as did Kobe and was the best player/ Finals MVP for 3/4 while Kobe was 1/4.
truthfully, i couldn't put an ALL DECADE staring 5.
aside from shaquille o'neal and tim duncan, there aren't enough players who have put in a SOLID body of work for the entire decade.
the list is LONG.
we could do a whole thread on that topic alone.
seattle fans would bring up guys like jerome james and jim mcilvaine.
The funny thing about this whole thread is if KG was healthy during the playoffs this thread wouldn't exist. There's no way people would put Kobe over Duncan or Shaq if they didn't win last year.
Nobody questioned shit. Most b-balls fans were happy that a player with classic skills was finally being rewarded.
Taking Phoenix from 29 wins to 62 wins (in his first year) was reason enough to win an MVP.
That's really dumb. Fact is, they'll ALWAYS give it to a big man if there's one with reasonable credentials on a successful team. Nowitzki was overdue to win, and that was his best shot. He had a solid (if not his best) regular season on a team that won 67 games.
He got a late start, but if you count his prime years then he certainly qualifies. As for stats, he's an all-time great shooter and assists man. No other player in history has averaged over 11 Assists, 50% from the Field, 90% from the Line and 47% from the 3-PT line in the same season. That's as perfect as it gets in terms of guard-play, offensively. And that was just two years ago, when he finished 9th in the MVP voting. He's basically done that for the last 5 years, and was just a couple of notches below that the previous 4 or 5 with Dallas.
Well, every two-time MVP is in the Hall of Fame.
White OR black.
Nash's PLAY is what attracts fans. Not his hype. People can see what he does with their own two eyes, and they like it. CLASSIC player.
Horrible shooter.
Not a good shooter, and only an average assist man. Flash over substance. Talk about hype. I guess young black fans need someone to cheer for.
What has Lebron done wrong so far???
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Not with the turn around Phoenix had with Nash's first year there.
Phoenix more than doubled their win total from the previous season. Shaq had a good year but not dominant. Nash completely turned Phoenix around in one year.
Jason Kidd did the same thing in his first year in Jersey. Now he got robbed that year. No way Duncan should have won MVP.
they don't have the body of work????????????????
come on now son.
Dwyane Wade has the body of work.
Lebron James has the body of work.
i don't see jesus in they league.
and chauncy >>>>>
And if "if" was a spliff man we'd all be high, high, high.
McIlvaine made like 9 mil a year for 6-7 years lmao yeah, the list goes forever.
how is that his fault????
so what the other teams sucked.
4 rings is 4 rings.
Kobe???
icb
Tony Parker has been better this decade then Ray. 3 rings, 1 finals MVP, #1 guy on 1 championship, #2 guy on the other two.
Allen was the 3rd best player on 1 championship team. Good player but has never been the leader on a championship contending team.
The real team of the decade should be
C: Shaq *POD
F: Duncan
F: Bryant
G: Allen
G: Iverson
C: Yao
F: Garnett
F: McGrady
G: Nash
G: Kidd
The younger cats haven't played enough years to qualify in my book. What ya'll think?
C: Shaq *POD
F: Duncan
F: Bryant
G: Allen
G: Iverson
C: Yao
F: Garnett
F: McGrady
G: Nash
G: Kidd
The younger cats haven't played enough years to qualify in my book. What ya'll think?
seattle was 1 of the funniest examples.
1 season they took 7 dudes 6'10" or taller on the active playoffs roster. during the regular season they carried 8 dudes 6'10" or taller on the roster.
Please don't underestimate Coach D'Antoni, and his system's influence on that turnaround also.
Coach Pop = COD.
Kobe = POD.
And Shaq didnt turn Miami around? Bullshit. You cant look at what a MVP brings to one team without looking at what he takes from another. Lets not cherrypick. When Nash left Dallas, they didnt miss a beat, in fact they actually improved and won more games. Conversely, win Shaq left LA they went from 56 wins and a finals appearance to 36wins and missing the playoffs (with the so-called Player of the decade still leading the team mind you. lol!). Theres two sides to that coin my man. Shaq should have won the MVP that year. That was utter bullshit. Not to mention Nash only plays one side of the court. Man Nash being MVP was and always will be a joke.
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and kobe shitted on all of them