I would have loved that
Joss Whedon to Direct a Standalone Batgirl Movie
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I would have loved that
I know folks who work over there they just had a celebration in Philly and a union meeting this weekend
The recent events are not being received well at all
I'm gonna leave it there for now.
The recent events are not being received well at all
I'm gonna leave it there for now.
yeah
Michael Keaton batman is
Muthafuka.
Cuz...
Seriously wtf is going on over there
SERIOUSLY?
Watch Oliver's joke at the 12:10 mark in the video above.
John Oliver has some words for Warner Bros. Discovery's 'new business daddy'
John Oliver fears his new bosses at Warner Bros. Discovery might be 'burning down my network for the insurance money.'
someone is going to make it... just won't be named Bat anything, nore will it be made by DC
Muthafuka.
Cuz...
Seriously wtf is going on over there
SERIOUSLY?
Watch Oliver's joke at the 12:10 mark in the video above.
John Oliver has some words for Warner Bros. Discovery's 'new business daddy'
John Oliver fears his new bosses at Warner Bros. Discovery might be 'burning down my network for the insurance money.'ew.com
new management
cleaning house: projects talent staff and production deals (shout out to Bad Robot)
nothing solid... just look at how many Mark Milar movies / stories incorporate Batman...
shit - if Wanted stayed book accurate - it would have been a trilogy
to replace them with the female versions as the trinity moving forward.
his appearance in flash is likely a cameo
same with supergirl-they planned to kill henry cavill superman.
but the new DCEU head guy said fuck that lets scrap both movies and reboot completely
Vicious aka Viciously Accurate
I hope the world order regime is right about all this.
Seems stock holders already not happy
I'm going to get killed for this but i still think Eminem would have done that role well.
The Dish: Amid Layoffs, How David Zaslav Might Deal With J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot, DC’s Walter Hamada & New Warner Bros. Pictures Chiefs Mike De Luca & Pam Abdy
Warner Bros Discovery Layoffs Loom David Zaslav JJ Abrams' Bad Robot, DC's Walter Hamada & New Warner Chiefs Mike De Luca And Pam Abdy,
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You think that bad robot deal gonna end well?
The Dish: Amid Layoffs, How David Zaslav Might Deal With J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot, DC’s Walter Hamada & New Warner Bros. Pictures Chiefs Mike De Luca & Pam Abdy
Warner Bros Discovery Layoffs Loom David Zaslav JJ Abrams' Bad Robot, DC's Walter Hamada & New Warner Chiefs Mike De Luca And Pam Abdy,
You think that bad robot deal gonna end well?
Bro how they gonna fumble a jj Abrams deal?
The new director of Warner Bros. thinks JJ Abrams is a scammer
Industry watched JJ get over on Paramount
and he hasn't delivered on his WB contract...
Good lawd
Yeah, WB paid ol JJ a quarter billion three years ago and haven't gotten any films or scripts yet.
How ‘Batgirl’ Axing and James Franco’s Castro Casting Highlight Hollywood’s Persistent Erasure of Latinos (Column)
With Warner Bros. axing the Leslie Grace film and James Franco cast as Cuban Fidel Castro, Latino problems in Hollywood are as dire as ever.
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How ‘Batgirl’ Axing and James Franco’s Castro Casting Highlight Hollywood’s Persistent Erasure of Latinos (Column)
By Clayton Davis
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It wasn’t a great week for Latinos in Hollywood, but I’m sure many of you knew that already.
Between Warner Bros. axing the release of “Batgirl” starring Leslie Grace, HBO Max canceling the coming-of-age comedy TV series “The Gordita Chronicles” and James Franco being cast as Cuban dictator Fidel Castro in an upcoming feature, Latinos are being mercilessly discarded and overlooked in the entertainment business. Worse yet, not many seem to care.
Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav addressed the controversial “Batgirl” decision during this week’s company earnings call, saying, “we’re not going to put a movie out unless we believe in it.”
Zaslav may not have realized how much truth he shared in that sentence.
Indeed, Hollywood doesn’t believe in Latino stories, creators or feelings. That’s a fair assumption based on our treatment in the business up to this point. However, this isn’t just the way we “feel.” Concrete data backs it up.
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The Annenberg Inclusion Initiative released its findings on the absence of Hispanic and Latino representation in the film industry in September 2021. Its findings were even worse than many suspected. An examination of the 1,300 top-grossing films released in the U.S. in the last 13 years found only six Afro-Latino lead or co-leads in the time period. Even more so, less than 5% of more than 52,000 characters examined had speaking parts.
Wouldn’t that have been a wake-up call? Obviously not.
In the last decade, with controversies such as #MeToo and #OscarsSoWhite highlighting the longstanding inequality in the Hollywood ranks, executives and producers have hit the press circuit, sharing their new “unbridled focus” on creating “welcoming” and “nurturing” environments, all with the added promise to “do better.”
It’s been mostly lip service.
Leslie Grace, star of the canceled production “Batgirl”FilmMagic
Being sympathetic to the persistent hemorrhage of people losing their jobs at WarnerMedia over the last two years, especially in the aftermath of the closed acquisition merger in April, a quick scan might have provided context clues as to why the company cancelled what was supposed to be the first Afro-Latina-led superhero film. This is the same studio that faced criticism for the lack of Afro-Latino representation with “In the Heights.”
There was palpable excitement and enthusiasm for “Batgirl,” even if many of us acknowledged we weren’t anticipating the “Citizen Kane” of the DCEU. Grace, the Dominican breakout star from “In the Heights,” was moving towards her most significant moment in Hollywood, one that could have young Latinas seeing themselves represented on screen for the first time.
Now, with the rug pulled out from under us, should Latinos just accept this as a possible quality issue or, worse yet, a way to catch a simple tax break? Should Latinos begin to prepare for any other Latino-themed projects, such as the Mexican superhero film “Blue Beetle” starring Xolo Maridueña, to face a similar fate?
And when we thought it couldn’t get any more ridiculous, a headline that reads like an Onion article emerges — “James Franco to Play Cuban Revolutionary Fidel Castro in Indie Film ‘Alina of Cuba’.”
The sighs and eye-rolling were significant. Sexual misconduct allegations and recent settlement aside (still believe cancel culture exists?), I found myself Googling Franco’s ethnic roots to see if I may have missed if the Portuguese-Swedish-Russian actor had newfound Latino roots. He does not.
Criticism came swift from social media users and Hollywood figures such as Oscar-winning Cuban producer Phil Lord (“Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse”) and Emmy-winning Colombian actor John Leguizamo.
Some users tried to point out inconsistencies with Leguizamo’s criticism, by pointing to his previous role as Italian plumber Luigi in 1993’s “Super Mario Bros.” However, aside from Luigi not being a real-life figure responsible for murdering thousands of his people, there continues to be a fundamental failure to understand the underrepresentation of marginalized groups, such as Latinos, and how they cannot consistently see themselves in media. Some have even tried to call out Cuban actress Ana de Armas’ upcoming portrayal of Marilyn Monroe in “Blonde,” evidently missing out on the multiple portrayals of the classic starlet throughout the decades.
This asinine logic continues to permit Latino roles to continue to be occupied by non-Latino actors such as Javier Bardem (Spanish) playing Desi Arnaz in “Being the Ricardos,” whose cousin, Miguel Bardem, is directing the Franco vehicle “Alina of Cuba.”
It remains unclear when the excuses will end for Latino exclusion. With Netflix recently laying off nearly all of its agency employees for Con Todo, its Latino-focused platform for content and audience, it looks like Hollywood still has a ways to go in terms of equality.
Latinos are not disposable and are not culturally ambiguous. Latinos are 500 million people that span the globe. Learn about us.
How ‘Batgirl’ Axing and James Franco’s Castro Casting Highlight Hollywood’s Persistent Erasure of Latinos (Column)
With Warner Bros. axing the Leslie Grace film and James Franco cast as Cuban Fidel Castro, Latino problems in Hollywood are as dire as ever.
How ‘Batgirl’ Axing and James Franco’s Castro Casting Highlight Hollywood’s Persistent Erasure of Latinos (Column)
By Clayton Davis
Plus Icon
It wasn’t a great week for Latinos in Hollywood, but I’m sure many of you knew that already.
Between Warner Bros. axing the release of “Batgirl” starring Leslie Grace, HBO Max canceling the coming-of-age comedy TV series “The Gordita Chronicles” and James Franco being cast as Cuban dictator Fidel Castro in an upcoming feature, Latinos are being mercilessly discarded and overlooked in the entertainment business. Worse yet, not many seem to care.
Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav addressed the controversial “Batgirl” decision during this week’s company earnings call, saying, “we’re not going to put a movie out unless we believe in it.”
Zaslav may not have realized how much truth he shared in that sentence.
Indeed, Hollywood doesn’t believe in Latino stories, creators or feelings. That’s a fair assumption based on our treatment in the business up to this point. However, this isn’t just the way we “feel.” Concrete data backs it up.
Related Stories
VIP+
How Annapurna and ‘Stray’ Stand Out From Hollywood’s Gaming Efforts
‘Games of Thrones’ Star Sean Bean Says Intimacy Coordinators ‘Spoil the Spontaneity,’ Decries Censorship
The Annenberg Inclusion Initiative released its findings on the absence of Hispanic and Latino representation in the film industry in September 2021. Its findings were even worse than many suspected. An examination of the 1,300 top-grossing films released in the U.S. in the last 13 years found only six Afro-Latino lead or co-leads in the time period. Even more so, less than 5% of more than 52,000 characters examined had speaking parts.
Wouldn’t that have been a wake-up call? Obviously not.
In the last decade, with controversies such as #MeToo and #OscarsSoWhite highlighting the longstanding inequality in the Hollywood ranks, executives and producers have hit the press circuit, sharing their new “unbridled focus” on creating “welcoming” and “nurturing” environments, all with the added promise to “do better.”
It’s been mostly lip service.
Leslie Grace, star of the canceled production “Batgirl”FilmMagic
Being sympathetic to the persistent hemorrhage of people losing their jobs at WarnerMedia over the last two years, especially in the aftermath of the closed acquisition merger in April, a quick scan might have provided context clues as to why the company cancelled what was supposed to be the first Afro-Latina-led superhero film. This is the same studio that faced criticism for the lack of Afro-Latino representation with “In the Heights.”
There was palpable excitement and enthusiasm for “Batgirl,” even if many of us acknowledged we weren’t anticipating the “Citizen Kane” of the DCEU. Grace, the Dominican breakout star from “In the Heights,” was moving towards her most significant moment in Hollywood, one that could have young Latinas seeing themselves represented on screen for the first time.
Now, with the rug pulled out from under us, should Latinos just accept this as a possible quality issue or, worse yet, a way to catch a simple tax break? Should Latinos begin to prepare for any other Latino-themed projects, such as the Mexican superhero film “Blue Beetle” starring Xolo Maridueña, to face a similar fate?
And when we thought it couldn’t get any more ridiculous, a headline that reads like an Onion article emerges — “James Franco to Play Cuban Revolutionary Fidel Castro in Indie Film ‘Alina of Cuba’.”
The sighs and eye-rolling were significant. Sexual misconduct allegations and recent settlement aside (still believe cancel culture exists?), I found myself Googling Franco’s ethnic roots to see if I may have missed if the Portuguese-Swedish-Russian actor had newfound Latino roots. He does not.
Criticism came swift from social media users and Hollywood figures such as Oscar-winning Cuban producer Phil Lord (“Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse”) and Emmy-winning Colombian actor John Leguizamo.
Some users tried to point out inconsistencies with Leguizamo’s criticism, by pointing to his previous role as Italian plumber Luigi in 1993’s “Super Mario Bros.” However, aside from Luigi not being a real-life figure responsible for murdering thousands of his people, there continues to be a fundamental failure to understand the underrepresentation of marginalized groups, such as Latinos, and how they cannot consistently see themselves in media. Some have even tried to call out Cuban actress Ana de Armas’ upcoming portrayal of Marilyn Monroe in “Blonde,” evidently missing out on the multiple portrayals of the classic starlet throughout the decades.
This asinine logic continues to permit Latino roles to continue to be occupied by non-Latino actors such as Javier Bardem (Spanish) playing Desi Arnaz in “Being the Ricardos,” whose cousin, Miguel Bardem, is directing the Franco vehicle “Alina of Cuba.”
It remains unclear when the excuses will end for Latino exclusion. With Netflix recently laying off nearly all of its agency employees for Con Todo, its Latino-focused platform for content and audience, it looks like Hollywood still has a ways to go in terms of equality.
Latinos are not disposable and are not culturally ambiguous. Latinos are 500 million people that span the globe. Learn about us.
I like everything David Zaslav has done so far. As it relates to Jar Jar Abrams I don't see how the guy got a contract with DC/Warner after he screwed up the Star Wars trilogy. I guess its true about Hollywood is a place where you fail up.
Zaslav realizes that you have prune a hedge to make it grow. No need to hang on to dead weight.
Batgirl Test Screening Score Was Same As Black Adam's First Cut
BYSARAH LAUDENBACH
PUBLISHED 4 DAYS AGO
Batgirl, the DC film scrapped because of low test screening scores, had the same score as the upcoming Black Adam - which is still getting released.
Batgirl's test screening score was reportedly the same as the first cut of Black Adam. Batgirl was a DC film expected to be released sometime in late 2022, starring Leslie Grace in the title role alongside major name likes J.K. Simmons, Brendan Fraser, and Michael Keaton. Black Adam, an upcoming addition to the DC Universe, is a feature film starring Dwayne Johnson that is scheduled to premiere on October 21, 2022.
Batgirl began development in March of 2017, with Joss Whedon at the helm. However, Whedon left the project a year later, and Christina Hodson was brought on to write a new script for the film in April of 2018. In May of 2021, Adil El Arbi and Bilall Fallah were hired to direct the film, when it was also announced that Batgirl would premiere on HBO Max. Casting and filming quickly followed this announcement, and by March of 2022, filming was complete. On August 2, 2022, DC and HBO Max's parent company, Warner Bros. Discovery, announced that even though Batgirl was close to completion, they had no intention of releasing it. WB Discovery reportedly blamed poor test screenings and reception, and decided that rather than sinking money into reshoots, they would simply shelve the project completely.
Now, film reporters Erik Davis and Umberto Gonzalez have claimed that Batgirl's test screening score - the score so poor that WB Discovery decided to scrap the project - was the same as the director's cut of Black Adam. While the scores were the same, Batgirl was shelved, but Black Adam has gone on to have a full theatrical release. Read Davis and Gonzalez's comment below:
Since the announcement of Batgirl's cancellation, it's been reported that the initial cut of the film that was shown had incomplete VFX work and a temp score, and still managed to test in the 60s. While this isn't a phenomenal score, it isn't uncommon for first screenings of films to score low - the 2017 horror phenomenon It tested in the 60s as well, and the film went on to become the 5th highest-grossing R-rated film in history. Batgirl also reportedly tested the same as Shazam! Fury of the Gods, another DC project which is still set to have a full theatrical release.
Although WB Discovery claimed they decided to scrap Batgirl because of its test scores, the film testing in the 60s is fairly normal. Black Adam and Shazam! Fury of the Gods both tested at the same score, and not only have they not been canceled, but they're getting a full theatrical release. Even if Batgirl did go on to be released, it would have only appeared on HBO Max anyway. The film's cancellation has led to big concerns over future DCEU movies receiving the same treatment, and with DC having just promised a 10-year plan styled after Marvel's MCU, it's unclear what other projects might get the Batgirl ax.
We keep predicting this sh*t exactly cuz
Thoughts?
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Man...
This "BATGIRL" shit just keeps pissing Me off.
I really thought Zaslav was going to make some changes for the better.
But with "THE FLASH", it just the same Old WHITE Boys Network.
Two Moroccan Filmmakers and an Afro-Latina got NO LOVE from Zaslav and his Cronies.
Yet, they give a Violent Psychotic Groomer and Thief every supportive chance possible in the book.
Yeah.
Sounds Mighty WHITE To Me!
Just fuckin' admit you're Racist and Sexist.
I seriously doubt Adil & Bilall directed a shitty "BATGIRL" film.
If the film tested badly, maybe that was due to it still not being finished.
But WB gave out this "narrative" as some silly excuse to prop up "THE FLASH" film.
Which was over double the Production costs.
And wanted to saved face at the expense of the "BATGIRL" creatives.
I own quite a few "FLASH" T-shirts. He one of my favorite Comic Book Characters.
But I can't wear those shits now.
And once my trial ends with HBO Max, I plan on dropping it in protest.
At my gig, one of my customers is this Chinese-American Dude who I always talk Comics and Pop Culture with.
He's way more pissed about this than I am.
Dude was going on about how the DISCOVERY+WB Merger just continues the "CRACKER-ASS CRACKERS" (his words) System.
This "BATGIRL" shit just keeps pissing Me off.
I really thought Zaslav was going to make some changes for the better.
But with "THE FLASH", it just the same Old WHITE Boys Network.
Two Moroccan Filmmakers and an Afro-Latina got NO LOVE from Zaslav and his Cronies.
Yet, they give a Violent Psychotic Groomer and Thief every supportive chance possible in the book.
Yeah.
Sounds Mighty WHITE To Me!
Just fuckin' admit you're Racist and Sexist.
I seriously doubt Adil & Bilall directed a shitty "BATGIRL" film.
If the film tested badly, maybe that was due to it still not being finished.
But WB gave out this "narrative" as some silly excuse to prop up "THE FLASH" film.
Which was over double the Production costs.
And wanted to saved face at the expense of the "BATGIRL" creatives.
I own quite a few "FLASH" T-shirts. He one of my favorite Comic Book Characters.
But I can't wear those shits now.
And once my trial ends with HBO Max, I plan on dropping it in protest.
At my gig, one of my customers is this Chinese-American Dude who I always talk Comics and Pop Culture with.
He's way more pissed about this than I am.
Dude was going on about how the DISCOVERY+WB Merger just continues the "CRACKER-ASS CRACKERS" (his words) System.
thieves
I still think that thing is gonna leak some how some way