Is every action understandable when you know the back story?

Are all actions understandable with a full knowledge of someone's history?


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People either have reasons, or excuses.

Isn’t that similar to how, depending on perspective, someone can be viewed as either a terrorist or a freedom fighter?

I remember hearing the phrase “more excuses than a hooker at church” growing up. But someone with compassion could call those “excuses” reasons.
 

This kid never had a chance. :smh:

He was 17! A fucking child who bounced from foster care to the care of his grandmother, who made no effort to find him when he ran away two years before. A kid dealing with schizophrenia, depression and autism, who was off his meds. Who ran away from his loser family that beat the shit out of him so badly his grandmother was taken to jail.

He doesn't deserve prison. He deserves intensive rehabilitation-- therapy, education, mentorship, whatever medication he needs.

Maybe he could be saved, reformed and become a positive contributor to society in 10 years.

Society fucking failed him. He's "paying his debt to society" when it should be reversed.

The last news on him was that his appeal of his life sentence was denied in 2020. They're going to spend more punishing him than they would have attempting to rehabilitate him.

Mother of 17-year-old alleged murderer of U of Texas ballerina is a convicted prostitute who makes porn films and took drugs throughout her pregnancy​


The mother of alleged murderer Meechaiel Criner, 17, is a convicted prostitute who makes pornographic films and took drugs throughout her pregnancy. Vivian Lafrance Criner, 43, claims to be based in Las Vegas but was arrested on prostitution charges in Shreveport, Louisiana last September and still has an active warrant out for her arrest. She was also part of a prostitution ring busted by Louisiana's Caddo County police department in March 2015 and was, on that occasion, released on a $700 bond.

Criner, who uses the stage name De Collecter, is currently thought to be in Nevada where she sells X-rated videos for $75 each and uses social media sites to promote them. But although active online, the mother-of-five has not come forward to speak about her youngest son who was charged with the murder of Portland dance student Haruka Weiser, 18. On the day Meechaiel's arrest was announced, Criner created a Go Fund Me Page aimed at raising funds for a book she hopes to publish on sexual hygiene. Written in error-strewn English, the page describes the 'years of research' she did while working as an 'adult star' and says the aim is to create bodies that are 'smell free zones'. On April 5, the day that Weiser's battered body was discovered beside an Austin creek, Criner was busy plugging a 'bootie clip' on Twitter – and continued to do so, even after her son was charged.

Meechaiel, who had been living rough in a derelict building close to the University of Texas campus, was arrested two days after Weiser's remains were found and was caught with some of the dance student's possessions. The 17-year-old is thought to have arrived in Austin late last year, having made his way there via Seagoville and McKinley - where he was caught shoplifting – after running away from his grandmother's Texarkana home.

He had lived with Mary Wadley, 62, since the age of 'five or six' according to his great uncle Leo Criner, 61, and spent his earliest years in foster care. Wadley, who made no effort to find her grandson after he ran away in August 2015, is now thought to be travelling to Austin to visit him in jail.

The teenager, who endured a chaotic upbringing at the hands of his mother and grandmother, also suffers from a panoply of medical conditions – among them schizophrenia, depression and autism. He is thought to have been taking medication for the latter but, says his uncle, had not had access to the drugs for six months prior to the murder.

Meechaiel was also subjected to violence by Wadley while still very young and, in 2009, was discovered with both of his eyes swollen shut and with marks on his face following a beating.

Although his grandmother claimed to be disciplining the boy and said he had suddenly turned as she hit him on the back with a belt, when asked why he was being punished, the child appeared not to know. The police file, seen by Daily Mail Online, adds: 'Criner [Meechaiel] spoke as if he were mentally handicapped and "slower" than normal children. At no time was he taken for medical treatment.'

An addendum to the report, written by Criner's CPS case worker, says Wadley described her actions as 'whooping' him and, when asked why, became irate but later said it was because the boy had been 'acting up'. Criner's grandmother, although initially booked into the local jail, was later freed with a warning and a $2,000 fine.

His health problems, said his uncle Leo, who also lives in Texarkana, can be traced back to his mother, who was 'on drugs real bad' during her pregnancy. 'His mother, when she was carrying him, she was on drugs real bad. Real bad,' he said. 'When she had him, she really didn't want him. She didn't want this kid around.

'Him and his sister were in one foster home after another until their grandmother came into the picture. To my knowledge, as long as they were with their grandmother, they were pretty much alright.'

Criner, who continued to plug her X-rated clips on YouTube over the weekend, rarely bothered to see any of her children and allowed two of the five to be permanently taken into foster care. 'She had very little if anything to do with him at all,' he said. 'As he grew up, she would have some contact with him. Maybe two or three months at a time. But no extended time to raise him up or teach him anything. She was not that kind of mother.'

He also claims that the convicted streetwalker has no idea who the fathers of any of her five offspring might be and added that the children 'could have been brought by the stork for all I know.' 'I don't know who his [Meechaiel's] daddy is,' Leo said. 'Never saw him, never even heard his name. Never. I don't know who the daddy of any of her babies is. She got five kids and I couldn't tell you who the daddy of any of them is. Any of them. I know who the mommy is because that's my sister's child. As for who the daddy is, they could have been brought by the stork for all I know.'

Criner, who is yet to comment on her son's arrest, has not been in contact with any of her relations and is thought to be in Las Vegas. Daily Mail Online has been unable to reach her for comment.

Meechaiel remains in the custody of the Austin PD and has been charged with the first degree murder of Oregon native Weiser.

Video footage of the night she was killed appears to show him brandishing a 'sharp silver object', although police have refused to confirm whether or not she was stabbed to death. The stretch of Waller Creek behind the University of Texas Alumni Center, where Weiser's body was found, remains cordoned off and an autopsy is expected to be completed later this week.

However, despite Meechaiel's arrest, Leo says he still does not believe that his great-nephew is responsible for Weiser's death. 'Truly in my heart, I don't believe he really did this,' he said. It's not in him. He don't have that type of mentality or mindset. He added: 'He was always an amenable young man, helping me around the yard. He was not no bad kid at all. He was well liked.

'He's been failed by the system and his grandmother failed him really bad. Now he's paying the price for that.'

h/t @DESTRO, who posted the link in another thread
 

This dude was out of rehab and banging sex workers at 14.

Maybe people are being too harsh on him. Of course, what he did was wrong. He also obviously had a bad upbringing. That does NOT mean his father and mother deserved to be killed. It's not letting him off the hook. But he turned out the way he did for a reason.

Nick Reiner once admitted to losing his virginity to a sex worker he paid with stolen money from his parents, Rob Reiner and Michele Singer Reiner, years before his arrest in connection to their tragic deaths.
“I was just looking at the different [Craigslist] profiles, and this one [profile picture was] just an ass shot,” the screenwriter, 32, revealed on the “Dopey” podcast in 2017.
“That’s the only thing that was her profile picture — and it had a number,” he detailed. “I called her up when I was about 14 or something, and her going rate was about $200.”
“This is the part of the story that I don’t usually tell, but I’ll tell it anyway,” Nick added. “I got $200 from my parents.”
He clarified that he didn’t tell his parents what the money was for. “I didn’t say, ‘Hey, look, I’m going to be with a [sex worker] tonight. Do you think you have an extra $200?'”
“It was also like 1 a.m. … She comes over. I didn’t know how it worked, so I tried to kiss her. "She didn’t want that,” he detailed.
Describing the experience, Nick admitted to not finding the woman attractive but not caring because he “was young.”
“I was like, ‘This is awesome,'” he continued. “[I lasted] 15 seconds … I kind of felt like s–t, but I was like, ‘That’s awesome.’ Then I realized I had more money on me, and I called her back. She came for a second time.”
“I never asked her name and I never really got into any specifics of anything,” Nick added, explaining he ate a “pot brownie” beforehand and “was extremely blazed.”
“But I still would have done it if I was sober,” he said.
Nick, who has been in and out of rehab, admitted to getting the idea to contact a sex worker online through a fellow outpatient rehab patient.
On Sunday, Page Six revealed that Nick had been arrested on murder charges after his parents were found stabbed to death at their Los Angeles home.
He’s being held at Twin Towers Correctional Facility without bail.
Leading up to Rob and Michele’s death, the actor had reportedly gotten into a heated altercation with Nick at Conan O’Brien’s Christmas party on Saturday.
A neighbor of the couple told The Post on Monday that Nick had a history of violence, but they “never thought it would ever get to this point.”
 
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