I'm just not understanding...why can't Cris Carter get in da HOF?!?!?

[Tuco]

Jerry Rice is a no-brainer. that goes without saying. Emmitt Smith, he deserves it. But you mean to tell me in his THIRD year of eligibility that Cris Carter STILL hasn't been voted in? Aside from Rice, Carter was as dominant at that time. The guy was an absolute BEAST! Am i missing something?

 

[woodchuck]

I can't wait to watch the show today. Last year, he lost his cool on TV. I wonder if he'll lose it today.

 

[mathtest]

Jerry Rice is a no-brainer. that goes without saying. Emmitt Smith, he deserves it. But you mean to tell me in his THIRD year of eligibility that Cris Carter STILL hasn't been voted in? Aside from Rice, Carter was as dominant at that time. The guy was an absolute BEAST! Am i missing something?

, c/s about the missin something part, i kinda think maybe we r maybe cause he played in that 100 catch era where guys like herman moore and brett Permian were gettin 90-100 catches every yr so his dominance dident stad out

 

[breal1]

If Shannon Sharpe Can't get in, there's no fuckin way Chris should.

 

[Complex]

His dominance stood out, because behind Jerry Rice him and Tim Brown were consistently the best receivers of the 90's, and they did it multiple years not like Sterling, Andre Rison or Herman Moore.

Richard Dent, Shannon, Tim Brown should get in also.

But look how long it took Derrick Thomas, I think some of these football voters are wannabe baseball HOF voters the way they vote.

 

[B-Witty]

andree reed is a 1st ballot.. fuck the hof .... thurman thomas was too...... fuck the hall of fame....... they all full of shit

 

[Complex]

Marshall Faulk, Deion Sanders, Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis are all eligible next year.

I'd only pick Marshall and Deio out of those four

 

[Yogi Bear]

, c/s about the missin something part, i kinda think maybe we r maybe cause he played in that 100 catch era where guys like herman moore and brett Permian were gettin 90-100 catches every yr so his dominance dident stad out

Art Monk kicked off that era and HE kept it going and unlike Brett Perriman he was one of the dominant receivers of his era who did it for a numer of years. Must have pissed folks off.

 

[qseal00]

I thought it was widely known that Cris Carter was a huge asshole. I grew up with my stepfather following the Vikes and he never liked Carter because of that. Or so he says.

 

[alexw]

I thought it was widely known that Cris Carter was a huge asshole. I grew up with my stepfather following the Vikes and he never liked Carter because of that. Or so he says.

I agree with this post. Dude was a huge asshole and cokehead. But you should be judged by what you do on the field not off. Fuck the voters. Former and current players should vote players into the HOF. Letting these geeky non athletic sport writers judge greatness is an oxymoron.

 

[Complex]

He was a cokehead with Philly, not with the Vikes

But he wasn't an asshole, he mentored many young receivers and players during the offseason.

Even used himself as an example to not do drugs.

 

[MonkeyBizness]

it's a timing thing. he'll get in but it'll take maybe 2 more years.

there weren't going to make him a first ballot dude. and this year, Rice had to be the only WR to make it in. he'll get in, if not next year (depending on who else is going in) or the year after.

 

[malaki]

damn richard dent isn't in there?

 

[FJP]

Honestly man I respect football voters for this. The Hall of Fames as a whole are getting too "crowded". Shit is becoming the "Hall of very Good". To me you have to dominant. Not just putting up stats for years. Thats not necessarily domination. Shit look at Drew Bledsoe and Kerry Collins. Both of those cats (if memory serves me right) are top 10 in yards and alot of other stats all time, but neither one of them will sniff the hall. Cris Carter was very good.. I wouldnt call him an all time great.

Carter never excelled in the playoffs, he never was "the" man on "the" team. To me a Hall of Famer is someone to be revered, someone who made a profound impact on the game. Example, Carter and Moss could have the same stats and Moss would get in over him just based on impact. Moss was "THE" WR in the NFL for multiple years. He impacted the game, his position like no one in a long time. And for that Moss will likely get in first ballot..

Basically this is my take on it, I wouldnt be mad if he got in, but I have no problem with him not making it.

 

[KrafMatik]

Marshall Faulk, Deion Sanders, Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis are all eligible next year.

I'd only pick Marshall and Deio out of those four

Martin deserves to get in the first go round but he most likely won't get in until a couple years later.

 

[voodoo]

If being a cokehead was in issue Michael Irvin wouldn't be in...

What's plaguing Carter is the playoffs and general lack of hype during his career. sometime the HOF can come down to popularity.

 

[pollux]

Marshall Faulk, Deion Sanders, Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis are all eligible next year.

I'd only pick Marshall and Deio out of those four

Martin deserves to get in the first go round but he most likely won't get in until a couple years later.

Huh? Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis are 4th and 5th all time in rushing history. They're all getting in. I agree, though. I, for the life of me, don't know why Chris Carter can't get in.

 

[Esquire1978]

andree reed is a 1st ballot.. fuck the hof .... thurman thomas was too...... fuck the hall of fame....... they all full of shit

Yea, the HOF is becoming a joke to me. Guys retire as "no brainers" then when the 5 years is up all of a sudden these reporters who never played with their agendas come in and say all kinds of nonsense to tear them down. The argument I heard yesterday was Cris Carter never forced defenses to scheme for him...that's why he's not in. BULLSHIT! This MF finished with 11,000+ yards and 130 TDs. These guys are full of shit and determined to make him wait. Tim Brown and Andre Reed should be in too (Receivers get the shaft from the Hall).

Every year the shit becomes more and more of a joke to me b/c of how political the voters are..."Vote for my guy...we'll vote for your guy.", etc.

 

[vader]

Carter is being blackballed because he was on that dope. He is more than qualified to be in the HOF, fuck all those pussies that refuse to give this man his respect......

 

[Esquire1978]

Huh? Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis are 4th and 5th all time in rushing history. They're all getting in. I agree, though. I, for the life of me, don't know why Chris Carter can't get in.

That's just it though...they're not going to take 3 RBs in all likelihood. That's just how they work. Of those 3 Martin will get the shaft before Bettis or Marshall. Deion is going to be like Emmitt and Jerry yesterday...he's absolutely 1st ballot. They can only take 5 so with Tim Brown, Andre Reed, Cris Carter...you add Martin, Faulk, Bettis, and Sharpe. That's when it's clear someone gets the shaft and they start the whole, "This guy has been waiting..." Bullshit!

 

[JD Walker]

Why can't Andre Reed get in should be the question. I'm still stunned that Coon ass Irvin got in before Art Monk. Irvin had only 5 DECENT years in his career, the rest were garbage. On top of that he wasn't intrical in Dallas's playoff run. You could have plugged a white boy like Ed McCaffrey in his position and Dallas still would have won those Superbowls. This nigga got busted for coke I don't know how many times and still got in.

Chris Martin and Bettis deserve to go on the 1st ballot.

 

[bgque12]

I agree with this post. Dude was a huge asshole and cokehead. But you should be judged by what you do on the field not off. Fuck the voters. Former and current players should vote players into the HOF. Letting these geeky non athletic sport writers judge greatness is an oxymoron.

But Michael Irvin gets in C. C. is the 2nd greatest WR ever to play the game! The voters of the HOF delegitamize it by the bullshit voting they do. This guy can get in but not on the first ballot and all that other BS. If there is one person that thinks C.C. should not be in but MICHAEL IRVIN BELONGS SHOULD HAVE THEIR VOTE TAKEN FROM THEM!!

 

[pollux]

That's just it though...they're not going to take 3 RBs in all likelihood. That's just how they work. Of those 3 Martin will get the shaft before Bettis or Marshall. Deion is going to be like Emmitt and Jerry yesterday...he's absolutely 1st ballot. They can only take 5 so with Tim Brown, Andre Reed, Cris Carter...you add Martin, Faulk, Bettis, and Sharpe. That's when it's clear someone gets the shaft and they start the whole, "This guy has been waiting..." Bullshit!

Man, I heard some reporter the other day saying he wouldn't vote for Sharpe, if he had a vote, b/c he was just a "pass catcher". He never blocked or anything. While I agree, the man was a beast. And he leads all TE's in TD's. In my opinion, if 5 get in it's Deion, Curtis Martin, Marshall Faulk, Jerome Bettis, and Chris Carter. Sorry Sharpe. He would get in the year after next.

 

[FJP]

But Michael Irvin gets in C. C. is the 2nd greatest WR ever to play the game! The voters of the HOF delegitamize it by the bullshit voting they do. This guy can get in but not on the first ballot and all that other BS. If there is one person that thinks C.C. should not be in but MICHAEL IRVIN BELONGS SHOULD HAVE THEIR VOTE TAKEN FROM THEM!!

Um...Cris Carter is nowhere near the 2nd greatest. Randy Moss has made a bigger impact than Carter. Irvin is in because he was the dominant WR on the dominant team of his era. Irvin changed the prototype for a WR. He was the start of the big physical downfield threat. Carter to me racked up alot of garbage stats. A bunch of stats collected but they had no real effect on the outcome of his team. . Stats alone dont make you a Hall a Famer.

 

[bgque12]

Honestly man I respect football voters for this. The Hall of Fames as a whole are getting too "crowded". Shit is becoming the "Hall of very Good". To me you have to dominant. Not just putting up stats for years. Thats not necessarily domination. Shit look at Drew Bledsoe and Kerry Collins. Both of those cats (if memory serves me right) are top 10 in yards and alot of other stats all time, but neither one of them will sniff the hall. Cris Carter was very good.. I wouldnt call him an all time great.

Carter never excelled in the playoffs, he never was "the" man on "the" team. To me a Hall of Famer is someone to be revered, someone who made a profound impact on the game. Example, Carter and Moss could have the same stats and Moss would get in over him just based on impact. Moss was "THE" WR in the NFL for multiple years. He impacted the game, his position like no one in a long time. And for that Moss will likely get in first ballot..

Basically this is my take on it, I wouldnt be mad if he got in, but I have no problem with him not making it.

IF YOU THINK MOSS IS GONNA GET IN AND CARTER CAN'T YOU ARE SERIOUSLY TRIPPING!!!!!!! IF THEY ARE HOLDING SOMETHING AGAINST CARTER WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GONNA DO TO MOSS?

 

[JD Walker]

Irvin changed the prototype for a WR.

Irvin DIDN'T DO SHIT. He ain't top 10 in anything. This nigga only got 65TD and 11900 Yards. Chris Carter has 2wice as many TDs and still can't get in? WTF? Irvin was a typical SLOW possession receiver. Those came a dime a dozen back then. The big playmakers on that Dallas team was Alvin Harper and Jay Novachek. The work horses were that O-Line, Moose, and Emmit.

Michael Irvin IS NOT a HOF Receiver.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

Um...Cris Carter is nowhere near the 2nd greatest. Randy Moss has made a bigger impact than Carter. Irvin is in because he was the dominant WR on the dominant team of his era. Irvin changed the prototype for a WR. He was the start of the big physical downfield threat. Carter to me racked up alot of garbage stats. A bunch of stats collected but they had no real effect on the outcome of his team. . Stats alone dont make you a Hall a Famer.

... Chris Carter was the Vikings in the 90s before Moss came along...

 

[bgque12]

Irvin DIDN'T DO SHIT. He ain't top 10 in anything. This nigga only got 65TD and 11900 Yards. Chris Carter has 2wice as many TDs and still can't get in? WTF? Irvin was a typical SLOW possession receiver. Those came a dime a dozen back then. The big playmakers on that Dallas team was Alvin Harper and Jay Novachek. The work horse was that O-Line, Moose, and Emmit.

Michael Irvin IS NOT a HOF Receiver.

Unfortunately, he is a HOF WR because they voted him in but he shouldn't be. His stats are damn near identicle to Gary Clark

 

[Complex]

Huh? Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis are 4th and 5th all time in rushing history. They're all getting in. I agree, though. I, for the life of me, don't know why Chris Carter can't get in.

I don't think Martin and Bettis are first ballot, though both will get in. Look at Bettis yards per carry. At least during his career you could say that Curtis Martin was one of the three best backs in the league certain years, you can't say that about Jerome Bettis. Bettis had a long career with a lot of carries.

 

[JD Walker]

... Chris Carter was the Vikings in the 90s before Moss came along...

And another thing, Randy Moss got big numbers on that Viking team in large part due to Chris Carter and Jake Reed drawing double teams. If it was just Randy Moss alone on that team, he wouldn't have the number he has today...

Unfortunately, he is a HOF WR because they voted him in but he shouldn't be. His stats are damn near identicle to Gary Clark

I'm lookin at "Easy" Ed McCaffrey's numbers, he's only 10 TDs behind Irvin, and mind you, Ed came off the bench most of his career. BTW, before the rest of you clowns talk shit, Easy Ed has 3 rings. 1 with the 9ers and 2 with Denver. And that fool made big plays.

 

[Complex]

Honestly man I respect football voters for this. The Hall of Fames as a whole are getting too "crowded". Shit is becoming the "Hall of very Good". To me you have to dominant. Not just putting up stats for years. Thats not necessarily domination. Shit look at Drew Bledsoe and Kerry Collins. Both of those cats (if memory serves me right) are top 10 in yards and alot of other stats all time, but neither one of them will sniff the hall. Cris Carter was very good.. I wouldnt call him an all time great.

Carter never excelled in the playoffs, he never was "the" man on "the" team. To me a Hall of Famer is someone to be revered, someone who made a profound impact on the game. Example, Carter and Moss could have the same stats and Moss would get in over him just based on impact. Moss was "THE" WR in the NFL for multiple years. He impacted the game, his position like no one in a long time. And for that Moss will likely get in first ballot..

Basically this is my take on it, I wouldnt be mad if he got in, but I have no problem with him not making it.

I'd call Chris Carter one of the ten best at his position. During the 90's you don't think he was one of the top three receivers?

He was a 8 time pro bowler. Plus what QB's did he have?

To state some more

Tim Brown was a 9 time pro bowler
Andre Reed was a 7 time pro bowler
Shannon Sharpe was a 8 time pro bowler
Art Monk was a 3 time pro bowler
Russ Grimm was a 4 time pro bowler

 

[alexw]

JD, your cowboy hate gets worse and worse every day

its not our fault that jerry rice doesnt like women bruh

its not our fault that we destroyed you fools in the 90's

as for Irvin, he changed the way the position was played, he was a leader, he made every big catch in big fucking games

and numbers are good too

stop the bullshit that those receivers were a dime a dozen

thats just laughable hatred

oh well, when jerry decides to get some pussy with his queer ass, holla at the cowboy fans

 

[Esquire1978]

And another thing, Randy Moss got big numbers on that Viking team in large part due to Chris Carter and Jake Reed drawing double teams. If it was just Randy Moss alone on that team, he wouldn't have the number he has today...

That's just not true man...Randy Moss came into the league and took it by storm. Defenses were forced to adjust and still couldn't stop that man.

The 2 highest scoring offenses the league has ever seen had 1 think in common...RANDY MOSS! Not Cris Carter...not Wes Welker.

 

[BlackaRican]

Being from Detroit I like Bettis but he is no way in hell a first ballot HOF..Faulk and Sanders will be only locks for next year class..

 

[JD Walker]

That's just not true man...Randy Moss came into the league and took it by storm. Defenses were forced to adjust and still couldn't stop that man.

The 2 highest scoring offenses the league has ever seen had 1 think in common...RANDY MOSS! Not Cris Carter...not Wes Welker.

The Vikings were putting up big numbers on offense prior to Moss.

Again, Jake Reed and Chris Cater were 2 receivers you HAD TO DOUBLE TEAM. Where does that leave Moss? In single coverage. He'll win that battle most of the time, unless you get physical with him (Moss is not physical at all), Revis proved that. Hell, Revis himself sad Moss was lazy.