have any of you brothas been real fat?

I didnt read all the replies but I think the best thing you could do to burn fat and inrease power is invest in some kettlebells. The brand I use is found on Dragondoor.com. There are plenty of videos on youtube on how to use them. I plan on getting certified as a kettlebell trainer within the next few months. The main thing to reach your goal is to not give up. The change you made is life long . Never forget that.
 
lol.....

I wasn't showing off....if it came out like that then i apologize....

I wish I could gain 10-15 more lbs...

I'm 6'2-6'3 185 lbs

and I'm a hardgainer....I can eat whatever and not gan a lb...but I have friends that blow up eating a big mac.....

anyway Boxing and MT are huge on cardio and I suggest anyone trying to get in shape to get up on that....
no wonder you've always been a soft ass nigga. you're built like a true bitch. 6'3 185lbs. lmfao. no wonder you need the net and sol to scoop women. i think i would actually kill you if i punched you just one time. wow you skinny jean wearing niggas are all suckers. :smh:
 
im benching/working out with 85 lbs dumbbells

You didn't have to lie :hmm:

but good luck to you



lol, I read that thinking the same thing. I remember the first time I picked up some 50 pounders when I first started working out early this summer.. I was like wtfffff... lemme put these shits down.


Update... This past Wednesday I Dumbbell Benchpress for the first time this year, at 6ft 196lbs I did...

(Each Hand)
60lbs x 10
70lbs x 10
85lbs x 8
95lbs x 3
100lbs x 1

Which is nothing special...I take 1 minute breaks between the first 3 sets, minute n a half for 4th, and a 2 minute break for the last.

It's just sort of a challenge getting into position with heavy dumbbell weight.

I would like to Dumbbell Press 100lbs in each hand for 10 reps one day.
 
Tampabay,

Focus on lots of cardio and well-placed small meals throughout the day to keep your body working, fam'.

Do you ever do the STATIONARY or RECUMBENT BIKE?

I am tall/lean in build (6'3" - 202 - 208lbs) ... but like to hit that for 35 - 42 mins on the hills profile setting. I hit it for 42 mins / level 20 / 14.6 - 15.0 miles / approx. 940 - 1030 calories / stationary bike. Great way to burn lbs if that's what you're aiming for, fam'.
 
i use to be 275 right after high school that was around 9 years ago.
i hit the cardio ONLY, and starved myself. WRONG way to go. I was skinny yea cool, but lost ALL my muscle and had loose skin since no muscle was there to fill up the lost fat.

I am 166 today, and have been hitting the gym for heavy weights for the last year or so, but STILL doing my cardio and eating healthier. I have gained the muscle back, and finally got the ladies jockin full force, SO i do NOT recommend, cardio and starving.

in retrospect, i recommend the following. 4-5 small meals through out your day, whole foods lean meat. lose only 150 calories a day no matter what your caloric intake is. INCLUDE weights in your regimen, but if you are on the stocky side tip the scales in favor of the cardio. remember exercise that gets your heart rate pumping at a semi-comfortable level is great. keep your protein on deck. when doing cardio DO NOT eat 1.5 hours before, or 1 hour after. Your body will take energy from your fat. If you do eat right before cardio, your body will take the energy from the glycerin in your blood, and sideline the fat.

once you get comfortable in doing all of that in your own routine. STICK TO IT. you will not see results unless you are disciplined.

im sure all of this shit soudns like a broken record. but its real. take it from me. I lost more then 100 pounds, and im just a regular mother fucker lol
 
how u do it bruh?

running 2 miles a day 4 days a week

light lifting

hit that steam room after EVERY work out

way I figured im strong as fuck and I just needed to lift light weight heavy reps...im not a body builder no need to keep bulking up..I had that lendale white/maurice clarett @ the combine frame going :smh::lol:

I cut back on the beef and pork...ate ground turkey instead of ground beef, not too much fast foods or fried foods
 
crazy this thread popped up, im going through similar shit.

I'm 6'2 300lbs. 16 days ago i 313. I just woke up and was sick of it. But heres the problem, Im really not sure if what im doing is working or i just lost water weight or some shit.

I switched my diet, cut out soda, white bread, sweets, fast food and fried food. Only eating chicken/tuna veggies and wheat bread and drinking water. Cut down my portion size by half or more.

Im walking over 2 miles a day on the tread mill and doing 20 to 30 minute of weights and then a 25 minute walk after dinner across the golf course near my house(hills)

I aint seeing no physical changes and the scale aint showing much but I feel 100 times better. I just don't know if im fucking up somewhere or should be doing something different. Like i said im a big motha fucka right now so, playing ball is out till i drop some pounds, but i can use any advice. I know this BGOL so im a take the jokes that come but if yall could throw in some advice to it would help.
 
crazy this thread popped up, im going through similar shit.

I'm 6'2 300lbs. 16 days ago i 313. I just woke up and was sick of it. But heres the problem, Im really not sure if what im doing is working or i just lost water weight or some shit.

I switched my diet, cut out soda, white bread, sweets, fast food and fried food. Only eating chicken/tuna veggies and wheat bread and drinking water. Cut down my portion size by half or more.

Im walking over 2 miles a day on the tread mill and doing 20 to 30 minute of weights and then a 25 minute walk after dinner across the golf course near my house(hills)

I aint seeing no physical changes and the scale aint showing much but I feel 100 times better. I just don't know if im fucking up somewhere or should be doing something different. Like i said im a big motha fucka right now so, playing ball is out till i drop some pounds, but i can use any advice. I know this BGOL so im a take the jokes that come but if yall could throw in some advice to it would help.


How did i miss this thread before?

Have you been checking your BF%? You may not look like you have lost weight, but you may be dropping body fat. At this point, that is what you should focus on losing, not so much the pounds, because that will come with the continuous drop of body fat.

Everything looks good with the diet, just make sure you are not cutting too many calories, which it does not sound like it is the issue. As far as the exercises go, it would help if we had an idea of the routine but just operating with what is here, I would say drop the after dinner walk, and stay focused on the 2 miles you are doing now. If you can comfortably walk the two miles, pick up the speed a little, get a little more intensity to it so you can still finish, but it be a little harder. Keep up the weights in the 8-12 rep, 3-4 set range. And focus more on compound moves (BP, squat, deadlift, lunges etc.)
 
Well here is my experience
I been struggling with my weight for the last few years, which is a even bigger issue for me because I'm trying to get a career working with athletes. So not only is being at a healthy weight good for my health, but it is vital to my paper. Last year was kinda rough on me with me having to go back to IN unexpectedly. Add stress from grad school, time constraints, depression, and laziness I went from 230 in Jan 09 to 262 in Dec 09. I don't like the way I feel or look, so I'm doing something about it. I am doing cardio 5x week on the treadmill doing 4:1 intervals(fast walk:jog) for 30 min and doing compound lifts 2 time a week. I didn't used to do cardio, which probably is the reason I couldn't lose weight like I wanted to. At my last weekly weigh in I was 252 @ 28% BF, which is a drop in both numbers. I still have a long way to go and I hope that I am at a healthy weight by April.

Some will probably make fun of me for gaining weight when I'm one of the ones that really should know better, but I'm taking control and fixing it. Like I said my livelyhood is at stake.
 
:lol:

Its crazy cuz my body fat wasn't even that high, just drinking too many beers :lol:

Im back on deck now though :cool::dance:

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How did i miss this thread before?

Have you been checking your BF%? You may not look like you have lost weight, but you may be dropping body fat. At this point, that is what you should focus on losing, not so much the pounds, because that will come with the continuous drop of body fat.

Everything looks good with the diet, just make sure you are not cutting too many calories, which it does not sound like it is the issue. As far as the exercises go, it would help if we had an idea of the routine but just operating with what is here, I would say drop the after dinner walk, and stay focused on the 2 miles you are doing now. If you can comfortably walk the two miles, pick up the speed a little, get a little more intensity to it so you can still finish, but it be a little harder. Keep up the weights in the 8-12 rep, 3-4 set range. And focus more on compound moves (BP, squat, deadlift, lunges etc.)

Im doing the 2 miles every day, try to jog a few of it but only in 20r 3 minute burst. 2 is the minimum i'm doing this week working my way up to 3. today was 2.5 in 48 minutes, i do the 2 in abou 37-40 minutes. i try to keep a 3mph pace. the weights is 25/20/15 3 sets. dead lift/squat/press/curls/shoulders. right after my walk.bout hour and half a day. appreciate your time
 
crazy this thread popped up, im going through similar shit.

I'm 6'2 300lbs. 16 days ago i 313. I just woke up and was sick of it. But heres the problem, Im really not sure if what im doing is working or i just lost water weight or some shit.

I switched my diet, cut out soda, white bread, sweets, fast food and fried food. Only eating chicken/tuna veggies and wheat bread and drinking water. Cut down my portion size by half or more.

Im walking over 2 miles a day on the tread mill and doing 20 to 30 minute of weights and then a 25 minute walk after dinner across the golf course near my house(hills)

I aint seeing no physical changes and the scale aint showing much but I feel 100 times better. I just don't know if im fucking up somewhere or should be doing something different. Like i said im a big motha fucka right now so, playing ball is out till i drop some pounds, but i can use any advice. I know this BGOL so im a take the jokes that come but if yall could throw in some advice to it would help.

Sounds like you really off on a good foot. If you can get by without the wheat bread, or any grain/sugar carbohydrates, you'd see great results.

Your body burns energy either by converting sugars/carbs into glucose OR by going into liplysis. Lipolysis is when the brain recognizes its no longer receiving direct sugar as energy so it tells the body to start running off of stored fat... breaking done the stored fat into energy, and urinating out whats left, which is water and ketones.

If you can cut out the wheat and other carbs you can be down to 220 lbs in no time... and you'll feel great almost instantly, as it only takes the brain 2-3 days to begin lipolysis. Everything you do throughout the day, work, walk, run, weightlift, will be using your stored body fat.

I got my lil brother on this diet, he just hit 18 so he been going to 24 hour fitness with me at nights. He was 251 during thanksgiving, trying to get in shape before he goes off to college... I got him doin 45 minutes of stationary bike 4 days a week and various weightlifting shit Mon/Tue/Thurs/Fri and since Thanksgiving he went from 251 and is now 216.

It is a hard diet to start, since we have processed grains and sugars thrown in our face on a daily basis, but if u can limit yourself to meats and vegetables until you 15 or so pounds of you goal weight, which you'd then start slowly adding more foods to your diet, you would be able to see giant-HEALTHY-weight loss every week.
 
Sounds like you really off on a good foot. If you can get by without the wheat bread, or any grain/sugar carbohydrates, you'd see great results.

Your body burns energy either by converting sugars/carbs into glucose OR by going into liplysis. Lipolysis is when the brain recognizes its no longer receiving direct sugar as energy so it tells the body to start running off of stored fat... breaking done the stored fat into energy, and urinating out whats left, which is water and ketones.

If you can cut out the wheat and other carbs you can be down to 220 lbs in no time... and you'll feel great almost instantly, as it only takes the brain 2-3 days to begin lipolysis. Everything you do throughout the day, work, walk, run, weightlift, will be using your stored body fat.

I got my lil brother on this diet, he just hit 18 so he been going to 24 hour fitness with me at nights. He was 251 during thanksgiving, trying to get in shape before he goes off to college... I got him doin 45 minutes of stationary bike 4 days a week and various weightlifting shit Mon/Tue/Thurs/Fri and since Thanksgiving he went from 251 and is now 216.

It is a hard diet to start, since we have processed grains and sugars thrown in our face on a daily basis, but if u can limit yourself to meats and vegetables until you 15 or so pounds of you goal weight, which you'd then start slowly adding more foods to your diet, you would be able to see giant-HEALTHY-weight loss every week.

:eek: Well I guess before I knock it, I'll try it. I've been outta of the gym for almost 2 weeks now, getting back to it this Monday. Before I left, I weighed 179.8lbs, goal is 170lbs, I'm about 187lbs right now.

So your saying all you eat is vegetables, fruits, and meats but no processed food at all? Do you still watch your calories?

Can anyone answer this? Is calories just engergy or is there such a thing as bad calories?

Like lets say, can you get fat off of eating 4,000 calories a day of fish or chicken without exercise?
 
Sounds like you really off on a good foot. If you can get by without the wheat bread, or any grain/sugar carbohydrates, you'd see great results.

Your body burns energy either by converting sugars/carbs into glucose OR by going into liplysis. Lipolysis is when the brain recognizes its no longer receiving direct sugar as energy so it tells the body to start running off of stored fat... breaking done the stored fat into energy, and urinating out whats left, which is water and ketones.

If you can cut out the wheat and other carbs you can be down to 220 lbs in no time... and you'll feel great almost instantly, as it only takes the brain 2-3 days to begin lipolysis. Everything you do throughout the day, work, walk, run, weightlift, will be using your stored body fat.

I got my lil brother on this diet, he just hit 18 so he been going to 24 hour fitness with me at nights. He was 251 during thanksgiving, trying to get in shape before he goes off to college... I got him doin 45 minutes of stationary bike 4 days a week and various weightlifting shit Mon/Tue/Thurs/Fri and since Thanksgiving he went from 251 and is now 216.

It is a hard diet to start, since we have processed grains and sugars thrown in our face on a daily basis, but if u can limit yourself to meats and vegetables until you 15 or so pounds of you goal weight, which you'd then start slowly adding more foods to your diet, you would be able to see giant-HEALTHY-weight loss every week.

Im give it a shot starting monday, want to see how this weeks weight loss went first. mondays are my weigh in days that will be 3 weeks for me. but i will definitely give it a shot. question, what bout fruits? or do i give them up as well.
 
:eek: Well I guess before I knock it, I'll try it. I've been outta of the gym for almost 2 weeks now, getting back to it this Monday. Before I left, I weighed 179.8lbs, goal is 170lbs, I'm about 187lbs right now.

So your saying all you eat is vegetables, fruits, and meats but no processed food at all? Do you still watch your calories?

Can anyone answer this? Is calories just engergy or is there such a thing as bad calories?

Like lets say, can you get fat off of eating 4,000 calories a day of fish or chicken without exercise?

4000 calories is too much. Calories are important, but someone 190lbs who works out 3-4
times a week is going to be burning 2500 calories a day, unless your like 5'4".

It really does come down to balancing your food, obviously if you cut the carbs, lose 15 lbs,
then go eat a whole pizza, then the next day a bucket of lo mein and 6 pot stickers, your going to gain it all back.

100% whole wheat is clearly the best choice, so the fact your already fine with eating that
is a great, as some people can only eat white bread.

The reason this diet works, is because your essentially giving your body every resource it
needs except for energy. When you eat carbohydrates, its pretty much broken into glucose (sugar)
immediately and whatever isn't stored fairly quick, is put right into your fat cells.
So by subtracting carbs, your still getting vitamins, fiber, protein... everything but immediate sugar.

So say you have limited carbs throughout the day, then go for a 45 minute bike ride, or jog, run,
hell even a walk... once your body is in lipolysis, everything you do is directly burning the stored
energy, which is the fat in your cells.

Really what we are trying to manage is the amount of glucose your body intakes, and how it spikes
your blood-sugar and insulin levels.

So learning what times of food converts to the most glucose is important. I can't stress this
enough, the physical shape that our bodies are in is a direct result of how we treat it. There
are very few cases of someone being overweight because they eat too much salad.

So if pure glucose = 100 glucose rating, a baked potato would equal 85 on the glucose index. White rice is about 88.

Because they are such basic carbohydrates that they are pretty much instantly converted to sugar,
your body can't use it all that quick, so it goes to fat. Brown rice is only 55... because it hasn't
been bleached over and over and destroyed of its nutrients.

The reason every doctor will tell you to eat 100% whole wheat bread is because its packed with
nutrients that your body has to break down, so its not going right to glucose, which in turn
isn't raising your blood-sugar levels or releasing excess insulin.

Another thing, if your like me and love pasta, cook it al dente (not as long... like 5min as opposed
to 8-12). Its a little harder when you take it off the stove, but its not broken down as much as
so it's not going to be converted immediately to glucose.


Sorry, kinda went all over the place... been a long day. To answer your question, look at
pieces of meat that aren't breaded, have no sweet sauces on them, and see how much calories/carbs they have.

You can get a piece of chicken breast, skinless, unbreaded, and it would be roughly 130 calories
and 0 carbs. You throw that on some romaine lettuce with some ceasar dressing, and you have
yourself a meal thats no more than 200 calories and 3 or 4 carbs.

If you can eat that 20 times a day and eat 4000 calories, I'm not sure any diet is going to
help you till you decide you want to eat properly... though I realize it was a hypothetical question.

But my point is, healthy foods, that are packed with nutrition, are most commonly low in calories and sugar.

Fat also is not an issue. In fact, you could have 2 scrambled eggs (without milk... milk is
loaded with sugar) and 3 pieces of bacon for breakfast and you'd be eating about 270 calories and
roughly 1g of carbs... a perfectly fine meal... plus thats about 19g of protein, which is nearly
1/3rd of what you'd want in a day, all from that small meal.

I need to get to bed, and this response I feel is probably too many things all at once, but
basically, you never want to over eat. 4000 calories is bad no matter how you cut it... and
eating 4000 calories of salad and meat is a lot harder than 4000 calories of Pizza and Sandwhiches.

If your trying to weigh 170lbs, I'm guessing your near the 5'11" height, as that would put you
in the 24 BMI, which is considered healthy. At 170lbs you should be eating 2200-2400 calories
a day. I would say get used to eating in that range, just make sure its 2400 healthy, non-sugar-filled
calories, and not 2400 calories of Ice Cream and shit like that.

At the end of the day, its all about balance. Today I probably had 1500 calories. Thats eating 4 meals... and I'm not
dieting. I worked out, did 20 miles on the exercise bike then went and worked on my back and legs. I'm not hungry, I just eat
for the energy that I am going to need throughout the day. Once you have your right balance, I bet you'll find it hard to
eat 2000 calories 7 days a week. And once you get to that part, your not going to beat yourself up for having some pizza
on Sunday while watching the game, because you know, 'ok, i ate 3000 calories today, but I'm probably going to be around
1500-1800 calories for the next 6 days, and probably 80-120g of carbs each day' so even that one day would put you below your
daily avg of 2200-2400 for the week.

Damn sorry, way too much of a rant. Hopefully its not so long that you don't even read it. :lol:
 
Im give it a shot starting monday, want to see how this weeks weight loss went first. mondays are my weigh in days that will be 3 weeks for me. but i will definitely give it a shot. question, what bout fruits? or do i give them up as well.

Yea, right now for you, you would want to stay off of fruits. For your weight, I'd say you have a good 110-120 lbs to hit your 24 BMI, which is considered "Healthy". At this point, you'd want to stay between 20g-30g of carbs a day. One slice of White Bread is like 19g of carbs. An apple I believe is something like 30g. So just an apple would be your daily carb intake.

The reason I say to stay around 20-30g, is this will pretty instantly put your body into Lipolysis. Like I said above, a skinless chicken breast is 0g of carbs... a fillet of Salmon is 180 calories, 0g of carbs. The fact the number is so low doesn't mean you can't eat... this is not a starvation diet. snack on slices of ham, cheese, salami, turkey. I had about 6 slices of cheese and some ham as a snack on wednesday, I probably had 400 calories and maybe 3g of carbs.

I can't say exactly how much you'll lose, because everyone is different, but my cousin, he weighed over 350lbs. We went to the doctor, got blood work done, then to a nutritionist. The nutritionist told him a healthy male's body produced 2-4 units of insulin a day... he was producing nearly 22.

He lives up in Stockton (about 2 1/2 hours from me) so I never actually saw dude eat on a daily basis, but my guess is he was probably eating 5000 calories a day and I'd guess 500+ g of carbs. Any way, he has gone off and on the diet during the holidays, but when he was dedicated, he lost about 65lbs in 9 weeks... over 7 lbs a week, Consistently! I can't say your going to lose 6.854lbs a week, but I can say if you limit your carb intake to 20-30g, and work out 3 times a week, while eating consistently throughout the day (never go more than 5 hours between meals/snacks) you will lose weight.


One other thing about Lipolysis.. it is the secondary way for the body to burn energy. The main way, unfortunately, is glucose. I bring this up, because if you go severely off for even just a day... say eat half a large bucket of popcorn at the movies, then some pasta or pizza or chips or bread late that evening, your brain is going to tell your body to go back to glucose... and it'll take another 2 or 3 days to re-enter lipolysis. So if you ever are thinking of going off, "just for that one day", remember that meal(s) is probably going to set you back nearly a week.
 
4000 calories is too much. Calories are important, but someone 190lbs who works out 3-4
times a week is going to be burning 2500 calories a day, unless your like 5'4".

It really does come down to balancing your food, obviously if you cut the carbs, lose 15 lbs,
then go eat a whole pizza, then the next day a bucket of lo mein and 6 pot stickers, your going to gain it all back.

100% whole wheat is clearly the best choice, so the fact your already fine with eating that
is a great, as some people can only eat white bread.

The reason this diet works, is because your essentially giving your body every resource it
needs except for energy. When you eat carbohydrates, its pretty much broken into glucose (sugar)
immediately and whatever isn't stored fairly quick, is put right into your fat cells.
So by subtracting carbs, your still getting vitamins, fiber, protein... everything but immediate sugar.

So say you have limited carbs throughout the day, then go for a 45 minute bike ride, or jog, run,
hell even a walk... once your body is in lipolysis, everything you do is directly burning the stored
energy, which is the fat in your cells.

Really what we are trying to manage is the amount of glucose your body intakes, and how it spikes
your blood-sugar and insulin levels.

So learning what times of food converts to the most glucose is important. I can't stress this
enough, the physical shape that our bodies are in is a direct result of how we treat it. There
are very few cases of someone being overweight because they eat too much salad.

So if pure glucose = 100 glucose rating, a baked potato would equal 85 on the glucose index. White rice is about 88.

Because they are such basic carbohydrates that they are pretty much instantly converted to sugar,
your body can't use it all that quick, so it goes to fat. Brown rice is only 55... because it hasn't
been bleached over and over and destroyed of its nutrients.

The reason every doctor will tell you to eat 100% whole wheat bread is because its packed with
nutrients that your body has to break down, so its not going right to glucose, which in turn
isn't raising your blood-sugar levels or releasing excess insulin.

Another thing, if your like me and love pasta, cook it al dente (not as long... like 5min as opposed
to 8-12). Its a little harder when you take it off the stove, but its not broken down as much as
so it's not going to be converted immediately to glucose.


Sorry, kinda went all over the place... been a long day. To answer your question, look at
pieces of meat that aren't breaded, have no sweet sauces on them, and see how much calories/carbs they have.

You can get a piece of chicken breast, skinless, unbreaded, and it would be roughly 130 calories
and 0 carbs. You throw that on some romaine lettuce with some ceasar dressing, and you have
yourself a meal thats no more than 200 calories and 3 or 4 carbs.

If you can eat that 20 times a day and eat 4000 calories, I'm not sure any diet is going to
help you till you decide you want to eat properly... though I realize it was a hypothetical question.

But my point is, healthy foods, that are packed with nutrition, are most commonly low in calories and sugar.

Fat also is not an issue. In fact, you could have 2 scrambled eggs (without milk... milk is
loaded with sugar) and 3 pieces of bacon for breakfast and you'd be eating about 270 calories and
roughly 1g of carbs... a perfectly fine meal... plus thats about 19g of protein, which is nearly
1/3rd of what you'd want in a day, all from that small meal.

I need to get to bed, and this response I feel is probably too many things all at once, but
basically, you never want to over eat. 4000 calories is bad no matter how you cut it... and
eating 4000 calories of salad and meat is a lot harder than 4000 calories of Pizza and Sandwhiches.

If your trying to weigh 170lbs, I'm guessing your near the 5'11" height, as that would put you
in the 24 BMI, which is considered healthy. At 170lbs you should be eating 2200-2400 calories
a day. I would say get used to eating in that range, just make sure its 2400 healthy, non-sugar-filled
calories, and not 2400 calories of Ice Cream and shit like that.

At the end of the day, its all about balance. Today I probably had 1500 calories. Thats eating 4 meals... and I'm not
dieting. I worked out, did 20 miles on the exercise bike then went and worked on my back and legs. I'm not hungry, I just eat
for the energy that I am going to need throughout the day. Once you have your right balance, I bet you'll find it hard to
eat 2000 calories 7 days a week. And once you get to that part, your not going to beat yourself up for having some pizza
on Sunday while watching the game, because you know, 'ok, i ate 3000 calories today, but I'm probably going to be around
1500-1800 calories for the next 6 days, and probably 80-120g of carbs each day' so even that one day would put you below your
daily avg of 2200-2400 for the week.

Damn sorry, way too much of a rant. Hopefully its not so long that you don't even read it. :lol:

Preciate it, before I went on break I was eating about 1,800 calores a day on average but I also was still eating wheatbread, lean pockets, and yogurts daily, just in moderation.

As much as I like working out n all, I will always love eating a rediculous amount of food without limitations more.

I'm chasing that elusive 8 pack so your advice sounds excellent getting me there. I'll update ya on how it goes.
 
Any trainer that advises only cardio should get a new profession.

Get the Ads Diet book. It's the real deal and not a diet but a life style. It's eating clean with regular foods. You do not have to count calories if your eating clean. Cardio and weight lifting are essential in weight lose. If you only do cardio you will lose muscle too which is not what you want. Get a professional designed weight lifting program. Their all over the net. Home Grown Muscle is a great book with good programs. You don't need to do more, you just need to do it better. Check out the Ads Diet forum on Men's Fitness Forums. Big Ups on what you done so far.
 
Any trainer that advises only cardio should get a new profession.

Get the Ads Diet book. It's the real deal and not a diet but a life style. It's eating clean with regular foods. You do not have to count calories if your eating clean. Cardio and weight lifting are essential in weight lose. If you only do cardio you will lose muscle too which is not what you want. Get a professional designed weight lifting program. Their all over the net. Home Grown Muscle is a great book with good programs. You don't need to do more, you just need to do it better. Check out the Ads Diet forum on Men's Fitness Forums. Big Ups on what you done so far.

wrong
get on an elliptical for 30-40 mins and go hard
your WHOLE body will be sore the next day. You can get toned as well as lose weight doing the right cardio
runners and swimmers usually have some of the BEST bodies. The thing is everyone`s body reacts different to different exercises,but you can definitely lose weight and keep muscle definition. Most of these books are bullshit to begin with...
 
:eek: Well I guess before I knock it, I'll try it. I've been outta of the gym for almost 2 weeks now, getting back to it this Monday. Before I left, I weighed 179.8lbs, goal is 170lbs, I'm about 187lbs right now.

So your saying all you eat is vegetables, fruits, and meats but no processed food at all? Do you still watch your calories?

Can anyone answer this? Is calories just engergy or is there such a thing as bad calories?

Like lets say, can you get fat off of eating 4,000 calories a day of fish or chicken without exercise?

#

1. (Abbr. Cal) The unit of heat equal to the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of 1 kilogram of water by 1°C at 1 atmosphere pressure. Also called kilocalorie, kilogram calorie, Also called large calorie.
2. A unit of energy-producing potential equal to this amount of heat that is contained in food and released upon oxidation by the body. Also called nutritionist's calorie.


yes there are bad calories
shit that you usually have to cook for longer are usually bad calories. stuff that cooks really fast are usually better for you
vegies,fish,etc etc...


you ever notice after you eat some pasta or lasagna or pizza how hot you feel and how your body temp rises?
 
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1. (Abbr. Cal) The unit of heat equal to the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of 1 kilogram of water by 1°C at 1 atmosphere pressure. Also called kilocalorie, kilogram calorie, Also called large calorie.
2. A unit of energy-producing potential equal to this amount of heat that is contained in food and released upon oxidation by the body. Also called nutritionist's calorie

I've read that as well, going by that than it means their's no such thing as a good or bad calorie when it comes to weight lost, a calorie is just a calorie.
 
I've read that as well, going by that than it means their's no such thing as a good or bad calorie when it comes to weight lost, a calorie is just a calorie.

You're just confused. There are two different laymen's definitions of calorie. A calorie is a unit of energy needed to heat a kilo of water one degree Celsius. That is the energy part. Now, as it relates to food, the "bad" calorie foods are the ones that are lacking in nutrients. A chicken breast may be 200 calories and so may 3 Chicken Nuggets. Same energy is provided to the body, but the amount you would eat would be more. Not only that, a cup of let's say broccoli might have 20-30 calories and be nutrient-dense.

So basically it's all about how it fills you up, plus carbs and fats are easier to break down, thus requiring less energy from your body.

There's a fitness forum FULL of good shit.
 
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