Grambling State Football team, aint show up for bus ride

[largebillsonlyplease]

Just heard on HLN that GSU was fined 20k.

should've been 100k

 

[BigATLslim]

You dudes got it twisted. Black schools have money for what they want to do. The administrations are top heavy, the prexy is over paid, and most of the mofo that work there think there shit don't stank. You are dealing with a culture that must be changed. The problem is, no one has the nuts to change it. Believe me, I know what the fuck I am talking about. Last thing... The alumni at our schools are shitty. We don't give back... I can understand why sometimes too. Bad food, terrible housing, mofo getting their asses whipped or shot, girls getting raped in student housing. I could go on.. We got a host of problems that can be fixed immediately, but who has the nuts to fix it?

Either way, lack of funding or misappropriation of funding, the money ain't gettin' to the school so we can eat as a community, PERIOD!

You are right, though, administration ain't SH!T at these HBCU's and I mean, ain't SH!T!

Discussing a black school getting a High level football team is reaching to far. Its a long process. However there is no reason that we can't put together a basketball team that can't win a National Championship is less that 8-10 years. The problem is that a lot of people would have to sacrifice there children. What I mean by that is that they would have to give up going to Duke, NC, or whomever to go to a HBCU, hope they get playing time on TV then go on to the NCAA to dominate. Thats a long process in itself. Also before the players even show up the coach staff and athletic directors all have to be on board that this is a goal vs I'm just here until something better pops up. One other thing that I thought off is getting money through wresting. With the younger boys I see them taking more interest in wrestling these days as they see Anderson Silva, GSP, and Jon Jones on TV dominating. Brazilian JuJitsu is going to be too expenive, but Wrestling is at damn near every high school and is a great base to get into MMA which could be used at the college level to attract more athletes.

No sirno sir...not at all.

Like my unlce told me in '89, "If you can PLAY, they will FIND you". That's why they call 'em scouts...that's they job!

Then the MSM sells you on this Linebacker U and NFL U and all that sh!t, it's not the school, per se, it is the money that goes into the facilities because they knew THEN as they knew NOW that sports, especially football, would keep the college gravy train going once we figured out that college is more about remuneration than education!

Man I salute these guys making a stand because they are standing up for what many people havent talked about, especially in this thread. The funding to the school itself went from 31 Million to 13 Million, so the whole school is hurting but these football players are getting more press than if the whole student body rose up and said something so i commend them for that.
As far as blacks playing at HBCUs i dont understand why not. If you taleneted you are talented and will get picked up at the next level. I remember watching Colts games when Dungy was the coach and most of the O-line came from HBCUs but the O linemen so no one paid attention but there are players from HBCUs that make it to the NFL. Hell Jerry Rice came from Missisppi Valley State, i couldnt find that on a map if my life depended on it. The only other current player i can think of is Antoine Bethea (Colts starting Safety) because he went to my school. Cuz at that level talent talks no matter what.
Being a graduate of an HBCU this shit hurts to look at, I wish HBCU administration would just stop being happy with titles and acutally get to work of improving the school. If you want money to come in you need a good football program, its just the way of the world and let that rising tide raise all ships. But the admin tends to get comfortable and wants to look good vs. doing good and oh putting a little extra in they pocket....
Been wanting to get that off my chest for a while

Man, you hit the nail on the head.

Black Americans are the earliest and most consistent adopters of technology , by ethnicity groups in the U.S.

You mean to tell me, that you can't mount a twitter, facebook, and youtbe campaign amongst middle school prospects and high school recruits to band together, get that history about HBCU's and go in groups of 2 or more.

They do that sh!t at the D-1 level so how come it can't work for HBCU's? Field still 100 yards and the basket ball goal is still 10 feet. The same way they came in to recruit us OUT we can come back 10 times stronger in a fraction of the time to recruit right back and make them fight for OUR dollars, but never get 'em!

Bruh...they don't want to hear that! It's too easy to blame everyone, and everything else, instead of looking within the schools. Piss poor management, and lack of quality leadership is the issue at most of the HBCUs. You would have to be a fool to send your kids to Tuskegee with the living conditions I witnessed at that University. Last week the "committee" for Tuskegee and Morehouse Classic game threaten to move the game to Montgomery or Atlanta (currently played in Columbus,GA). Columbus pretty much told them to go ahead and leave.

Man, lil' sis went there in '01. She prissy as hell...I couldn't believe that was her first choice and she had the grades to go D-1.

My momma saw them dorm rooms and I knew it was a rap for the housing authority. My mommma called they asses EVERY f*cking week until her baby girl dorm and her baby girl's friends' dorms had the right facilities for women to be able to be safe and take a shower that was consistent with being clean.

To be honest, I don't see how any of you who attend HBCU's can hold your head up high. Off tradition, yeah, but hell if you have gone there since '80, you're part of the problem. Ain't no way, we have the opportunities we have now and schools look like they did when they were first built...after about 25 years.

I know this though, Alabama A&M (my mom's alma mater) has one of the most beautiful campuses PERIOD of any college. Why can't everybody else do that?

I don't know, that's why I'm asking.

The Division II school I went to is UNRECOGNIZABLE from when I attended in the mid 90's. That is what it should be like for HBCU's. Ain't no gotdamn way an alum in they 60's sharin' the same dorm stories of someone in they 30's.

Just heard on HLN that GSU was fined 20k.

Insult to injury.

You're the onlyone here in this thread that has come close to getting it right. Two words: Bobby Jindal

Re-read this quote from SI:

'Ask school officials why the football team and other programs are struggling and they quickly shift attention from personality conflicts and staffing decisions to the budget. Since 2007-08, overall state funding for Grambling has gone from $31.6 million to $13.8 million. The school has attempted to bridge that gap by increasing tuition, but it has fallen short, and cuts have been made across the board. Approximately 127 staff members have been laid off since 2008 and furloughs are common. Professors have also been asked to teach an extra class each year for free. Generally, the school has "cut to the bone," says Leon Sanders, Grambling's vice president for finance.'


The argument of the right wing, Republicans and libertarians in cahoots with the racists, is that with integration, the HBCU is unnesessary. De-fund them, and they will wither and die. Combine that with a bunch of self serving, money grubbing, elitist, thieving, tratorious administrators and you have Morris Brown and Grambling.

Fam, THANK YOU!

 

[max-dawg]

if you follow the money or lack thereof, you'll find the root of this bullshit.

there's no reason why ANY school in 2013 should be riding buses on trips over 5 hours in duration. fuck dat.

 

[alexw]

if you follow the money or lack thereof, you'll find the root of this bullshit.

there's no reason why ANY school in 2013 should be riding buses on trips over 5 hours in duration. fuck dat.

yup

and youre not winning any games after being on a bus for that long

that has to be hell for an athlete

 

[samh32]

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[professor153]

Props to them. I'm proud that these young men didn't act ghetto and shit...They pulled a power move and it worked nicely.

 

[hussla's paradice]

...and they got their asses beat 48-0 from having to drive overnight to get to that game, complete & total BULLSHIT!

Grambling's ENTIRE situation lays @ the door of the school President, Doug Williams already knew that if sponsors that wanted to donate to the football program went thru the B&GF, their money would have ended up elsewhere, which is why he did what he did!!!

I had seats behind GSU bench. The entire team was demoralized.


sidenote.

Southern University is new dorms and a makeover.

 

[samh32]

I had seats behind GSU bench. The entire team was demoralized.


sidenote.

Southern University is new dorms and a makeover.

So I guess Bobby Jindal failed at trying to merge of Southern University and The University of New Orleans. I'll give it five more years, and the majority of HBCUs will no longer exist in the south.

 

[SIDESHOW]

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[samh32]

See what I mean!! Listen to the President of the University say he did not know about the conditions in the locker room. He needs to be gone by Monday morning. Why is this idiot giving an interview looking like a grown azz fool? Again poor leadership and zero accountability.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

he lying

how the fuck he ain't know the place have mildew and the floor was ruined.. he been out of the country?

 

[a1rimrocka]

A First-Hand Look At Grambling Weight Room
http://www.hbcugameday.com/2013/10/grambling-players-show-and-tell-their.html

New developments continue to emerge more than 24 hours after Grambling State's players refused to show up to travel for a road game. Early Saturday, ESPN obtained a letter from Grambling players expressing their grievances with the administration. The letter touched on everything from unsanitary conditions in the weight room to long bus trips to coaching decisions.

Entire letter (PDF)

"The athletic complex is a place where we as a team prepare for competition. In our opinion, the complex is in horrible condition, and has many hazards that may contribute to our overall health. First, the complex is filled with mildew and mold. Mildew and mold can be seen on the ceiling, walls and floor, and are contributing to water leaks because of faltering walls and ceilings. Grambling student-athletes are not the only ones complaining about this particular hazard. When Lamar University came to play our team they refused to go in the locker room for half time due to mold and mildew."​

Saturday evening, Grambling defensive back Naquan Smith went one step further--he showed the world exactly what he and his teammates have been using as a weight facility.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>SEE OUR STRUGGLE <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SQUAD&amp;src=hash">#SQUAD</a>!!! <a href="http://t.co/PjwJ1XtnbR">pic.twitter.com/PjwJ1XtnbR</a></p>&mdash; Naquan Nate Smith (@NateDaGreat26) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateDaGreat26/statuses/391762356570562560">October 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>ON THE BEHALF OF THE GRAMBLING STATE FOOTBALL TEAM OUR PRAYERS GO OUT TO EDDIE ROBINSON JR. AND HIS FAMILY <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SQUAD&amp;src=hash">#SQUAD</a></p>&mdash; Naquan Nate Smith (@NateDaGreat26) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateDaGreat26/statuses/391756601457000448">October 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[hussla's paradice]

Props.

 

[Coldchi]

Dang! That must have really traumatized the heck out of you! Did yall win?

hell naw.....Jason Williams (white chocolate) was too much for our point guards.
nigga was breaking ankles and doin all those crazy ass And-1 passes during the game.
all i cared about was getting back home safe.......fuck that game.....






shit! @ Grambling weight room.......gotdamn.....

 

[hussla's paradice]

So I guess Bobby Jindal failed at trying to merge of Southern University and The University of New Orleans. I'll give it five more years, and the majority of HBCUs will no longer exist in the south.

seriously.

 

[playahaitian]

A First-Hand Look At Grambling Weight Room
http://www.hbcugameday.com/2013/10/grambling-players-show-and-tell-their.html

New developments continue to emerge more than 24 hours after Grambling State's players refused to show up to travel for a road game. Early Saturday, ESPN obtained a letter from Grambling players expressing their grievances with the administration. The letter touched on everything from unsanitary conditions in the weight room to long bus trips to coaching decisions.

Entire letter (PDF)

"The athletic complex is a place where we as a team prepare for competition. In our opinion, the complex is in horrible condition, and has many hazards that may contribute to our overall health. First, the complex is filled with mildew and mold. Mildew and mold can be seen on the ceiling, walls and floor, and are contributing to water leaks because of faltering walls and ceilings. Grambling student-athletes are not the only ones complaining about this particular hazard. When Lamar University came to play our team they refused to go in the locker room for half time due to mold and mildew."​

Saturday evening, Grambling defensive back Naquan Smith went one step further--he showed the world exactly what he and his teammates have been using as a weight facility.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>SEE OUR STRUGGLE <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SQUAD&amp;src=hash">#SQUAD</a>!!! <a href="http://t.co/PjwJ1XtnbR">pic.twitter.com/PjwJ1XtnbR</a></p>&mdash; Naquan Nate Smith (@NateDaGreat26) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateDaGreat26/statuses/391762356570562560">October 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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the staph infections in the NFL and here...

the O' Bannon case against the NCAA

the investigation into the BOWLS finances

Clowny & Wiggins...

Johnny Football...

even going back to Reggie Bush and Cam Newton....

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[samh32]

the staph infections in the NFL and here...

the O' Bannon case against the NCAA

the investigation into the BOWLS finances

Clowny & Wiggins...

Johnny Football...

even going back to Reggie Bush and Cam Newton....

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Man I got much respect for these young men who stood up against the system. You best believe there are cleanup crews working right now trying to fixed some of the disgusting facilities. We had better gyms in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[bcotton85]

if you follow the money or lack thereof, you'll find the root of this bullshit.

there's no reason why ANY school in 2013 should be riding buses on trips over 5 hours in duration. fuck dat.

Preach!!!!

 

[bcotton85]

he lying

how the fuck he ain't know the place have mildew and the floor was ruined.. he been out of the country?

Yep he's been traveling with Grambling money!

 

[Diamels]

You know Eddie Robinson is turning in his grave like a rotisserie chicken. Stories like this is why this nation's top black Athletes will not consider going to HBCUs

 

[bcotton85]

A First-Hand Look At Grambling Weight Room
http://www.hbcugameday.com/2013/10/grambling-players-show-and-tell-their.html

New developments continue to emerge more than 24 hours after Grambling State's players refused to show up to travel for a road game. Early Saturday, ESPN obtained a letter from Grambling players expressing their grievances with the administration. The letter touched on everything from unsanitary conditions in the weight room to long bus trips to coaching decisions.

Entire letter (PDF)

"The athletic complex is a place where we as a team prepare for competition. In our opinion, the complex is in horrible condition, and has many hazards that may contribute to our overall health. First, the complex is filled with mildew and mold. Mildew and mold can be seen on the ceiling, walls and floor, and are contributing to water leaks because of faltering walls and ceilings. Grambling student-athletes are not the only ones complaining about this particular hazard. When Lamar University came to play our team they refused to go in the locker room for half time due to mold and mildew."​

Saturday evening, Grambling defensive back Naquan Smith went one step further--he showed the world exactly what he and his teammates have been using as a weight facility.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>SEE OUR STRUGGLE <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SQUAD&amp;src=hash">#SQUAD</a>!!! <a href="http://t.co/PjwJ1XtnbR">pic.twitter.com/PjwJ1XtnbR</a></p>&mdash; Naquan Nate Smith (@NateDaGreat26) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateDaGreat26/statuses/391762356570562560">October 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>ON THE BEHALF OF THE GRAMBLING STATE FOOTBALL TEAM OUR PRAYERS GO OUT TO EDDIE ROBINSON JR. AND HIS FAMILY <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SQUAD&amp;src=hash">#SQUAD</a></p>&mdash; Naquan Nate Smith (@NateDaGreat26) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateDaGreat26/statuses/391756601457000448">October 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Doug Williams played in them same shoulder pads.

 

[KrafMatik]

President and AD need to go just off GP. Them facilities raggedy as hell.

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[Savage X]

Just when Bama State gets new academic and athletic facilities, they get audited by the State and it shows MASSIVE corruption. Best believe the wheels are in motion to turn ASU into Montgomery University or something.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...-University-s-revenue-bond-ratings-downgraded

 

[Blu Diablo]

Discussing a black school getting a High level football team is reaching to far. Its a long process.

Wrong! Most cats on this board are too young to realize that FAMU beat Miami in '78. Schnellenberger replaced Lou Saban (Yeah, Nick's father) the NEXT year with a goal of producing a National Championship within 5 years, the 'Canes won their first in '83.

A First-Hand Look At Grambling Weight Room
http://www.hbcugameday.com/2013/10/grambling-players-show-and-tell-their.html

Shit like this is inexcusable when Doug Williams had already purchased the new flooring and these assholes didn't installed it because they wanted to power trip about the money.

You're the only one here in this thread that has come close to getting it right. Two words: Bobby Jindal

Re-read this quote from SI:

'Ask school officials why the football team and other programs are struggling and they quickly shift attention from personality conflicts and staffing decisions to the budget. Since 2007-08, overall state funding for Grambling has gone from $31.6 million to $13.8 million. The school has attempted to bridge that gap by increasing tuition, but it has fallen short, and cuts have been made across the board. Approximately 127 staff members have been laid off since 2008 and furloughs are common. Professors have also been asked to teach an extra class each year for free. Generally, the school has "cut to the bone," says Leon Sanders, Grambling's vice president for finance.'


The argument of the right wing, Republicans and libertarians in cahoots with the racists, is that with integration, the HBCU is unnesessary. De-fund them, and they will wither and die. Combine that with a bunch of self serving, money grubbing, elitist, thieving, tratorious administrators and you have Morris Brown and Grambling.

All racism is rooted in economics. The Civil Rights movement never fully addressed this angle which is why racists maintain the ability to be subversive.

The worse part in all of this is that these administrations are complicit in the racists argument and gives them "valid" grounds to attack how HBCUs are run.

 

[Coldchi]

President and AD need to go just off GP. Them facilities raggedy as hell.

yet at Oregon........their $68 million investment.
it damn sure helps with recruitment. i bet GSU doesn't show recruits their facilities on recruitment visits.

 

[samh32]

You know Eddie Robinson is turning in his grave like a rotisserie chicken. Stories like this is why this nation's top black Athletes will not consider going to HBCUs

Grambling treated this coaching legend like crap in the end.​

 

[D-TOWN REP]

The school wanted the money to filter through them first cuz they were going spend it on other things and crooked ass shit like that

Same as other HBCUs workers fucking with the money and stuff coming up short

agreed at the integration aspect.
the kool aid says you have to go to these white schools to make it to the pro's that's bullshit. grambling itself has over 100 nfl alumni

but the parents have to tell these kids to go to these schools and the parents aren't really trying to hear all of that

Shit Jason Hatcher went to Grambling and he one of the top DTs in football right now

 

[a1rimrocka]

if you follow the money or lack thereof, you'll find the root of this bullshit.

there's no reason why ANY school in 2013 should be riding buses on trips over 5 hours in duration. fuck dat.

Uhh I get your point but a school in NC flying to play in GA, for example... that's a bit excessive. There's a reason why some schools are in D2, D3, etc. and it's finances. Alumni have to play their part as well.

One of their complaints was discontinuing a tradition of staying in a hotel for HOME games. My alma mater (WSSU) cut that out too this season, except for homecoming.

 

[samh32]

Just when Bama State gets new academic and athletic facilities, they get audited by the State and it shows MASSIVE corruption. Best believe the wheels are in motion to turn ASU into Montgomery University or something.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...-University-s-revenue-bond-ratings-downgraded

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Like I said earlier...there is a push by these southern republican governors to take over HBCUs and them become part of the State school system.

 

[LSN]

good for them for taking a stand

 

[samh32]

You take a 5 star recruit on a campus tour and show him this. How could you lose when you got that Nike, BCS, Alumni, and fan money. Oregon gets new uniforms every game. Grambling gets new uniforms every generation.

 

[SIDESHOW]

 

[woodchuck]

The locker and weight rooms are complete shit, the unis are not thoroughly cleaned after games (one rumor is that sometimes detergent was not used), water leaks through the walls, and there's mold and mildew everywhere, and the visiting team flat out REFUSES to enter the locker room for halftime due to a fear of staph infections, and your Pres (Who claims to have an open door policy!) don't know? Aight.

 

[Electric Relaxation]

I can see NBC, State Farm, etc. backing out of the Bayou Classic. Attendance has been dwindling over the years anyway, and this is an easy out. Unless a miracle happens (celebrity benefactor), things will probably get worse before they get better.

 

[woodchuck]

I can see NBC, State Farm, etc. backing out of the Bayou Classic. Attendance has been dwindling over the years anyway, and this is an easy out.

Too easy. Ego and pride trumps the greater good.