"Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Keys

Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

bullshit..
niggas was killing each other long before N.W.A started rapping about it...
them niggas was only rapping about what was going on in cali..
at the time...


Preach.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

The disappearance of positive/political/pure hip hop and the emergence of d-boys/gangstas/thugs ect in the music industry does come across as a ploy to keep garbage in the fore front. Most of that shit doesn't even sell well yet we continue to see it everyday on tv and hear it non stop on the radio. Feels like a forced feeding at times.

That's a good point.

She's on point. You cats sound like your feelings are hurt.

yep
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

i'm not buying that gangsta rap shit, but if she wants to talk about real shit then more power to her. :hmm:
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

I ain't mad.

Gangsta Rap of today definitely isn't part of the solution. But let's not forget what is now known as Gangsta rap was initially an offshoot of Political rap and had a revolutionary feel. More anti-establishment anti-government slant. It was initially a street conscious type rap which Ice T, Ice Cube, Geto Boys and Tupac all were well versed in before it was perverted into Gangsta rap which turned to focusing on killing each other rather than unifying and uprising against the government, cops, and having social awareness on a street level. A theory as to how and why this happened is not without merit.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

She needs to focus on not singing through her nose. Black people been killing each other since before there was a thing called "gangsta rap" :smh:

LOL @ Biggie and Tupac being great black leaders...
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

"Remember that! In this white man's world. They can't stop us, we been here all this time, they ain't took us out... They can never take us out! No matter what they say! About us being extinct, about us being.. Endangered species, we ain't never gonn' leave this! We ain't never gonna walk off this planet.. Unless y'all choose to! Use your brain! Use your brain! It ain't them that's killing us, it's us that's killing us... It ain't them that's knocking us off, It's us that's knocking us off, I'm tellin you, you better watch it or be a victim... Be a victim in this white manz world." - Tupac Amaru Shakur "White Man's World."
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

She's right. Heroin flooded the neighborhoods after the riots in the '70s and get high music, nonsense songs and celebrities cosigning the get high mentality to numb our brains. There might not have been a comprehensive plan but it was one hell of a coincidence and the tools were there.

Fast forward a few years and the same thing happened - a resurgence in social consciousness came about and all it took was one group to go the other direction and make it cool. Not Ice T not Too Short - they weren't packaged right until later and they didn't have a connect at K-Day.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

what a lot of many of these rappers are doing are speaking on what's going on in the world from their perspective. the lyrics, rhymes or raps in these mcs or rappers' raps are all a reflection of what's going/been going on throughout the world.

That may be what some rappers are doing. What the record industry is doing is promoting rappers who sing about about sex, drugs, crime, violence, and capitalistic materialism over rappers putting out a positive message. :smh:

They aren't getting my money, and I don't listen to anyone that gives those degrading tunes any airplay. Call me old school.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

Gangsta rap did not make us kill each other and this black on black crime is bullshit the only reason that looks like that is because the black people that do most of the crime and killings are cities and areas that is mostly black , so else can they kill but blacks. I bet on the reservation Indian on Indian crime is high http://www.superthickgirls.com
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

She's right. Heroin flooded the neighborhoods after the riots in the '70s and get high music, nonsense songs and celebrities cosigning the get high mentality to numb our brains. There might not have been a comprehensive plan but it was one hell of a coincidence and the tools were there.

Fast forward a few years and the same thing happened - a resurgence in social consciousness came about and all it took was one group to go the other direction and make it cool. Not Ice T not Too Short - they weren't packaged right until later and they didn't have a connect at K-Day.


c/s

A lot of the the younger, and or less observant folks fail to see or remember. The change wasn't gradual from socially conscious jams to hard core "just kill that ni$&^$" songs, it was abrupt! Same folks supplied & encouraged people like Rick Ross (the real guy), supplied and encouraged cripin' bloodin' and the music to drive by.

One day the whole hood was bumping EPMD (which was considered hard at the time) the next, NWA (Huge difference!!). It was an about face. Face it they got a whole generation cosigning random violence, and defending stupid behavior.

Read Monster, I read it in 1995 pretty much clarified for me what the architects were attempting to do to the community throughout the rest of the country. I think Alicia got ballz of steel for saying this.
 
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Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

I'll put this in my "Stupidest Shit I've ever Heard" folder, thanks.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

cosign my dude..

that bullshit around her neck,
is the same rifle that the VietCong used to kill thousands of black men in the Vietnam war (3 of my uncles included).

this is the result of niggas bringin these half white babies into the world.

..a mind of warped confusion. :smh:



www.rkellyisguilty.com

Shiiiiiit
Black man had NO business in Vietnam.

Put things into perspective 1.5 million vietnamese died

that was truly a white mans war. any black person that died was sadly a pawn.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

I always had a feeling she wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, despite all of her talent. This certainly proves it.

:smh:
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

where the fuck u heard that from???
N.W.A (minus Cube) are from Compton.
but so what.
so are the Williams sisters,
and Anthony Anderson.

true, they werent no hard ass niggas,
but dont just be straight lyin up on here bruh. :smh:




www.rkellyisguilty.com

nwa?

Them dudes was from middle class households, bordering on upper middle class except for maybe Ez

it was all an act.

dudes was/is entertainers talking about killing black people
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

I always had a feeling she wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, despite all of her talent. This certainly proves it.

:smh:

This coming from Blunt? I thought you were All knowing when it comes to Celebrities? I'm not agreeing with her Outlandish statements but, she is intelligent. Didn't you know she was Valedictorian of one of NYC's most Academically gifted High Schools , graduated at 16, and was accepted into Columbia University in the Ivy League?
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

where the fuck u heard that from???
N.W.A (minus Cube) are from Compton.
but so what.
so are the Williams sisters,
and Anthony Anderson.

true, they werent no hard ass niggas,
but dont just be straight lyin up on here bruh. :smh:



www.rkellyisguilty.com

Agreed. Except for the D.O.C. wasn't from Compton either he was Born & Raised in Dallas, Texas.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

Didn't you know she was Valedictorian of one of NYC's most Academically gifted High Schools , graduated at 16, and was accepted into Columbia University in the Ivy League?

She could've used some college, apparently. Her thinking on this matter is on the NYC "hoodrat" level.

Mya was equally "gifted" scholastically.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

Gangsta rap did not make us kill each other and this black on black crime is bullshit the only reason that looks like that is because the black people that do most of the crime and killings are cities and areas that is mostly black , so else can they kill but blacks. I bet on the reservation Indian on Indian crime is high http://www.superthickgirls.com

:lol::lol::lol::smh::smh: seriously?!? even in these "mostly" black cities, the outskirts is probably "mostly" white and there are other races in the city but we decided to "kill that 'fool' on the corner". there was crime before but the murder rate skyrocketed after the "gangsta rap" era among young blacks. so it may not have started the violence but that shit was like throwing gas on a fire
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

That the bicoastal feud between slain rappers Tupac Shakur and Notorious B.I.G. was fueled “by the government and the media, to stop another great black leader from existing
B.I.G a great black leader
did I miss something?????

LOL @ Biggie and Tupac being great black leaders...


She wasn't calling Biggie and Tupac great black leaders, she was saying that gangsta rap was a ploy to keep the black youth proccupied with killing each other and a bicostal 'war the the likelihood of a great black leader coming out of that lot would be greatly diminished.


With that said, this is BS, as we've been killing each other for many years before this.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

She Has Her Own Opinion You Don't Have To Agree With Her She Is Not Making You Agree With Her.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

:lol::lol::lol::smh::smh: seriously?!? even in these "mostly" black cities, the outskirts is probably "mostly" white and there are other races in the city but we decided to "kill that 'fool' on the corner". there was crime before but the murder rate skyrocketed after the "gangsta rap" era among young blacks. so it may not have started the violence but that shit was like throwing gas on a fire

Where the fuck you live at :confused:

You can check the murder rates of places like New York, DC, Newark and Baltimore and the crime rate was highest when an almost 20% unemployment rate for blacks under Reagan merged with that crack epidemic that hit during the mid 80's.

"Gangsta rap" was the frustration from what the 60's, 70's and crack epidemic did to our communities.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

Gangsta rap may not have started gang violence, but anybody that would try to say it didn't blow the crip and blood recruitment numbers through the roof worldwide is full of shit. I seriously doubt that crip/blood shit would have made it too far beyond southern Cali had it not been for it being advertised/glamorized by gangsta rap.

And like somebody said, funny how NOBODY seems to like this shit on the radio now, nobody seems to be buying the shit, but we still got to get bombarded by it 24x7. SOMEBODY wants us hearing the shit.

:yes:

Cats just get mad when a woman says something opinionated these days.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

bullshit..
niggas was killing each other long before N.W.A started rapping about it...
them niggas was only rapping about what was going on in cali..
at the time...

So, let me see if I got this right. The music influences the way people dress, speak and dance (crip walkin') but does not in any way contribute to a person's action?:confused:
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

Her comments were rather naive and ignorant and is why a lot of musicians should just shut up and just sing. She can speak when her music and overall message is something different.

Where does she think those AK-47...which are russian military assault rifles in 60's, came from? What's the purpose?

Gangsta rap was the result of what was happening in the streets. Black people had already been turned upside down from the contelpro and fbi in the 60's.

you have absolutely NO idea what your talking about.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

I always had a feeling she wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, despite all of her talent. This certainly proves it.

:smh:

Of course.

On some level, she's defending black men which goes totally contrary to your beliefs.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

you have absolutely NO idea what your talking about.

I actually do. :hmm:

The AK-47 is a russian assault rifle.

Why is it in the black community :hmm:
How did drugs get in the black community in the 80's? Why?
What was the FBI trying to do in the 60's and 70's to black leaders and black organizations?

So why don't you school me on this blue cheese :hmm:
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

I dont think most of you who seem offended actually read the brief article

she didnt say that Ganster Rap was a cause of black killings

she said there was no such music, it was a ploy created by the media.

She's right. The media gave that type of rap music the "title" gangster rap and helped make it popular music.

The woman speaks the truth


 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

Sounds like she's trying to find her voice. I aint mad at that.
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

I dont think most of you who seem offended actually read the brief article

she didnt say that Ganster Rap was a cause of black killings

she said there was no such music, it was a ploy created by the media.

She's right. The media gave that type of rap music the "title" gangster rap and helped make it popular music.

The woman speaks the truth



Reading it again, you're actually right.

Just Ice was calling himself the gangsta of rap back in the mid 80's however. It wasn't an invented term and something they just gave us. I don't think gangsta rap was created for us to kill ourselves, we were doing that before. The government didn't force Scarface in to black households. It was used in a way they could profit from it, either through magazine ads or record sales. Sort of how we use pitbulls. You like to fight, well let me make some money off it.

The AK-47 shit was bullshit :dunno:
Killing the next black leader. I assume that was Tupac :dunno: I think young black people make make him more of a martyr than he really was. I don't think he was on the governments radar. :smh:
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

Gangsta rap is complete bullshit. It is some white sociopaths invention and sadly a lot of our people STILL buyin into the bullshit. The image is so powerful that it had half of you muh fuckas expecting us to be killin and fightin each other at the Million Man March .....well did we???:smh: No we didn't but some of us clearly are, and are the unwitting puppets of those who would like to destroy us. YT knows that art has the power to subliminally implant images and ideas into peoples minds. Only the ignorant believe that humans can watch hours upon hours of violent video games and listen to gansta rap and not have that shit twist yo fuckin wig. Muh fuckas can recite some bullshit gansta shit but don't know who Malcolm X is. :confused: And you think that shit is not by design?? gansta rap don't represent a reality any more then it creates that reality. It is the mill in which the fodder is made to allow 1 in 9 of us between 18-34 to be locked away in the dungeons of amerikkka. AN ENTIRE CULTURE has been manufactured for us through this bullshit - a twisted culture of death, hatred, violence, poverty, hopelessness and ignorance. fuck all these so called black record "moguls" who sold their companies, their souls and our children down the river for a dollar. fuck'em. bitches walkin around pushin some faggoty argyle clothes made in Taiwan.

For an oppressed people Art is a means of liberation not a way to make a dollar.

As for Alicia Keys....love that sistar. :yes::yes:
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

I dont think most of you who seem offended actually read the brief article

she didnt say that Ganster Rap was a cause of black killings

she said there was no such music, it was a ploy created by the media.

She's right. The media gave that type of rap music the "title" gangster rap and helped make it popular music.

The woman speaks the truth



BINGO!!!!!!
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

half black/white bitches/niggas always talk like this. I knew I was gonna see when I saw her selection of only DARK ASS niggas to date/fuck with. what the fuck did you think was going to happen??????
 
Re: "Gangsta rap was a ploy to convince black people to kill each other." - Alicia Ke

Gangsta rap is complete bullshit. It is some white sociopaths invention and sadly a lot of our people STILL buyin into the bullshit. The image is so powerful that half the muh fuckas that went to the Million Man March expected there to be fights and brothers killin each other.....well did they???:smh: No they didn't but some of us clearly are, and are the unwitting puppets of those who would like to destroy us. YT knows that art has the power to subliminally implant images and ideas into peoples minds. Only the ignorant believe that humans can watch hours upon hours of violent video games and listen to gansta rap and not have that shit twist yo fuckin wig. Muh fuckas can recite some bullshit gansta shit but don't know who Malcolm X is. :confused: And you think that shit is not by design?? gansta rap don't represent a reality any more then it creates that reality. It is the mill in which the fodder is made to allow 1 in 9 of us between 18-34 to be locked away in the dungeons of amerikkka. AN ENTIRE CULTURE has been manufactured for us through this bullshit - a twisted culture of death, hatred, violence, poverty, hopelessness and ignorance. fuck all these so called black record "moguls" who sold their companies, their souls and our children down the river for a dollar. fuck'em. bitches walkin around pushin some faggoty argyle clothes made in Taiwan.

For an oppressed people Art is a means of liberation not a way to make a dollar.

I actually agree with this.

But if NWA sells more than the Jungle Brothers, who are you going to put out?
If DJ Quik goes platinum, while X-Clan sells 200,000, what is the next artist you sign going to be like?

Record labels, have a responsibility to their shareholders, not to the community. Most people don't give a fuck about their community or the next man. Do you care what Apple's next iPhone is going to be like for stock purposes, or what service they do in the community :dunno:
 
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