Debate: Is Toronto less racist than any American city ?
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If you really believe that the Canadian government didn't use chemical warfare (aka crack cocaine) against Native American people come down to the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver.
As for trying to make things better with POC, Canada is going to the exact same far-right backlash that America and every other country in the world is going through right now. It's looking like their far-right political parties are about to sweep the next election.
Yes, black people ran to Canada during slavery, but that's not because Canada was a shining example of human tolerance. It happened because
1) the British ended slavery 30 years before the United States did because of uprisings in Central America. Canada was a British colony
2) slave labor doesn't work well in all economies. And Canada was just one of those places.
Canada never had a policy of mass incarceration. There are no private prisons and the criminal sentences are comparable to what a person might have got in the late 70s. Then again, that's hardly unique. America is the outlier here.
As for making amends with First Nation people, remember the incident on Standing Rock where the people were trying to stop an oil pipeline from being pushed through their reservation? That same company is doing the same damn thing in Canada, the only difference was that they succeeded.
The main reason Canada puts on the appearance of making nice is that a lot of their world reputation is based on being a friendly tolerant country. it's the same reason the United States passed the civil Rights act.
I'm not even going to get started on the number of white Canadian gangs that have killed people of color just for existing. It makes the papers for a couple of days and then disappears.
Good info....I dont think anyone here is saying Canada isnt racist....just not as bad as the USA....you said it yourself...USA is the outlier with prisons....there is a reason for that
Black people live with racism every day Boss...its not a hot topic for us....its life....I grew up seeing colorism in Jamaica, a majority Black nation....trust me, we are under no illusions about Canada...but the USA has historically been worse and is definitely worse now
The one thing I will say is that if you are highly money motivated type A type individual, the USA will offer you more opportunities to make (and lose) crazy sums of money than Canada...that's not because USA is less racist...its because it's more capitalist
This is 100% true. I have a lot of team members from Vancouver. Half of them are asian and the other half are caucasian of one variety or another. One Ukranian woman complains loudly about the Chinese taking over downtown VC and the rising cost of living.
Side note: White people from certain parts of Canada are always shocked to hear about level racial animosity in the States. Not to say they can't be racist, but it's just not bred into them as it is down in the USA. I think it's because there were never any really large numbers of Africans or freed slaves in Canada to form any real threat to the europeans there. White people in the US and the south were constantly in fear of enslaved men and women uprising and returning a little bit of what they suffered on their captors. They still scared of us to this day.
Few things
1 he's headed to the bay area where literally it's the same but with more diversity here period
2 he's saying this might stand out elsewhere but here.,.. as it does stand out there. As he's making it stand out. As he's beating his chest about a place not being racist while pointing out how an engineer had to be a car salesman and got lucky and then made a lot of money off of it
But let's keep going
1 he's headed to the bay area where literally it's the same but with more diversity here period
2 he's saying this might stand out elsewhere but here.,.. as it does stand out there. As he's making it stand out. As he's beating his chest about a place not being racist while pointing out how an engineer had to be a car salesman and got lucky and then made a lot of money off of it
But let's keep going
You really hit it on the head with that last paragraph. That's the main reason why I moved to the United States. The other reason is that American cities are usually a lot bigger and closer together than Canadian cities are. If you can't make money in one place it's fairly easy to move to another and get your bread there. on the other hand, if you're struggling in a place like Vancouver you would literally have to change time zones to get to a city anywhere near that size.
As far as racism goes, when I tell Americans of any shade that I come from Canada most people have this misconception that it's an ultra-liberal paradise with free healthcare and no crime. or they'll say something like, "I took a trip to Vancouver once it's a really nice place why would you ever want to leave?" it doesn't help that practically every Canadian I know has this bizarre idea that their city, province, or country is a microcosm of everything good in the universe. I think a lot of it really just comes down to opinion, situation, and location. Just like almost any other country.
I made a wrong turn in Vancouver, tried to use someone's driveway to turn around and ended up getting stuck in the snow.
The white home owner came out, saw of my situation and said, "I can understand a Chinaman getting stuck like this, but a white boy like you? that's just shameful."
I've seen plenty of racist shit in the United States, but even the worst American has never been that brazen about it. Especially not to a complete stranger. It makes me wonder how he would have acted if I wasn't white.
Nobody cares cracka
My question is... How high of a percentage of black people is there??? It sounds like when small towns say "There's not much racism here..." But they have a miniscule black population that mainly walk around like it's still the 1950s...
Toronto is the 4th largest city in North America including mexico city..only american cities larger are New york, and LA
The 10 most populous countries in North America are:
- Mexico City (Mexico): 8,854,600.
- New York City (US): 8,550,405.
- Los Angeles (US): 3,971,883.
- Toronto (Canada): 2,826,498.
- Chicago (US): 2,720,546.
Black population estimated at around 260,000
These numbers are based on the boroughs, the city centre and not including the greater Toronto area (surrounding areas) where a lot more black people,Poc's, younger families etc live because you can actually find houses for less than a million dollars
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It does, but only once every 8-10 years or so and nobody is ever prepared when it happens. This was one of those years.
There are micro areas and neighborhoods that compare to Toronto in the US and there are bigger cities like Sacramento or my city of San Diego, but generally speaking, Toronto has probably less in your face racism that most US cities. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's just more polite and doesn't have the residual history behind it. It's a safer play to live there but you can have more wealth and financial reward in the US. This would be my preference.
Tolerant level or minimal racist American city with great job opportunities > minimal racist city in another country with standard living> American southern city with racist background and poor jobs.
Depends on where you are in life and what you are out to achieve.
Thank you, Bomani.
Technically it is an American city just like Mexico City, Rio De Janiero, Panama City etc. It is not a United States city.
Yeah, yeah, I know the rest of the world only recognizes US citizens as the default Americans.
not true.
past and present, the black man is scared shitless of the white man in every corner of this planet.
past and present, the black man is scared shitless of the white man in every corner of this planet.
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Uh oh....
T Dot what happened?!?
T Dot what happened?!?
They are so damn nice there and great housing and the women!!!!
But i would need to seriously fix my french up.
Man. Montreal is a great city. Yeah.. if not for the winters, it could imagine living there... loved it
Oh, stop it already!!! These threads kill me! Stop asking if T Dot is "less racist" than U.S. cites, or if Norway has less racism than blah, blah, blah! Enough with this nonsense. Y'all sound like people that move to the 'burbs, and then get shocked with a crime is committed out there. Crime has NO borders, and neither does racism. I don't care where you are, if there are poor and greedy people in a spot, there's crime. If there are white people in a spot, there's racism. Besides, what the fuck does "less racist" mean anyway?! They'll call me "darkie", but not "ni**er"? Stop it! The actual subject of this feel good story had to sell cars, because he wasn't allowed to be an engineer because of what and who he was, and we're supposed to portray T Dot as some beacon of hope on the top of a hill? FOH! For the record, Vancouver is one the THE greatest cities on this continent, but let's not get carried away.
It is a kinder and gentler racism tho..
Canada is like the rapist that uses lube..
Apologizes... Gives you cab fare to get home..
Call to make sure you ok...
Then be like
Ok good buddy
Then rape yo ass again..
The only time its blatant in your face racism is mostly economically...
Financial district...tech industry...real estate
But trust me if you a bruh from the state's you can make moves easier out there then out here...
But it does seem like they really try to push interracial relationships out there..
But u r a hunid
Where there are cacs there will be low self esteem../insecure generated hate
Aka
Racism
But if you a bruh and want to raise a god race based family..
In terms of housing and schooling
Waaaaay more bang for your buck...
America has some catching up to do...
Jew and the Italian mafia aren't allowed to run wild out there.
Like they do in nyc
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