DACA versus the black struggle

I don’t get why this is hard to comprehend for some here.
Because deep down America wants them here. Construction companies thrive from cheaper labor. Anything being built require health Insurance due to the sheee risks involved. You can underpay and never insure illegals abt save millions. When I roll past construction it’s all I see. America doesn’t want to hire white men with families to feed and insure. Hell naw. White man wants good pay and dental. Mexicans just want a job. White man wants illegals here. Don’t fall for the lies. They will never punish those hiring. Counterproductive. Home Depot would lose money.
 
Do you want to punish Mexicans or get them out of the workforce?

Your thread that you deleted was about illegal aliens showing their ass in the workforce.
I didn't delete anything. The thread is still here. It's the one you are responding in now. I'm all about punishing ANYONE who attacks black people. If there is legislation that allows that then I'm going to use it to my advantage to punish those people. Period. No different than other groups do with legislation. Ain't that what politics is about anyway? Reward and punishment?

****Correction it seems it was merged.
 
I didn't delete anything. The thread is still here. It's the one you are responding in now. I'm all about punishing ANYONE who attacks black people. If there is legislation that allows that then I'm going to use it to my advantage to punish those people. Period. No different than other groups do with legislation. Ain't that what politics is about anyway? Reward and punishment?

****Correction it seems it was merged.
Yea my bad. It was merged.

Wouldn’t it be a better punishment to take away their incentive to work in the USA?
 
Seen it first hand.

How do y’all think the Indians took over IT jobs? It’s hard to compete against a group that is willing to work for a fraction of the pay.

My first hand experience... my boss reached out to a contract company for an engineer. She didn’t know the company was majority India but that it didn’t matter at the time. But here is where the problem started. EVERY single resume that came across her desk was a person of Indian decent. Again, this wasn’t the problem. The problem was that those Indian applicants were based in Indian and required a work visa. This was only for a 6 month contract position.
She told them she wanted someone, not only stateside (in the US), but local. You know the company was still pushing immigrants on her. She literally had to threaten to go elsewhere for someone. She eventually pulled the offer.

But yeah, after reading the article it seems the Mexicans were trying to push the blacks out. The environment turned hostile. The business owner was looking to reduce cost and it backfired. But I do know of plenty of cases where it works out.
 
We already know your a trump cheerleader

Naw playa.. I understand very clearly Trump dont operate off morals..he knows the law and uses the law.

I cant hate a man that isnt ignorant in the eyes of the law.

Do i support him no...my moral obligation is bullshit when it comes down to law..learn that
 
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Wasn't addressing any one instance in particular. I was speaking about the gulf between Latino and black that exists generally. And as far as an alliance goes, there is none primarily due to the powers that be pitting one against the other to the detriment of both. Imagine what could be if all people of color united against the real enemy. :hmm:

The fact that there isn't one has nothing to do with the "powers that be". What reason would there have to be some alliance between Blacks and Hispanics? Especially when there are already Black Hispanics and they don't get treated well in that world. I'm not saying "fuck em" but y'all are acting like there's been some long standing connection to some people we never even had contact with before a particular time. They have no interest in forging any alliance with us but we kept talking this "people of color bullshit" Alliances should happen because of a common interest and through negotiation.
 
That is true.

However, we will never get politicians to change the law if we continue to let them use illegal alien as a rally cry.
We use the tools for the job at hand. Rich business need low wages. Low wages don't benefit us. Racist white folks fighting illegals do.
 
We use the tools for the job at hand. Rich business need low wages. Low wages don't benefit us. Racist white folks fighting illegals do.
It’s whack a mole then. This is why we still have this problem after decades.

Those illegals that ICE rounded up will be replaced instantly at another business. Eventually they will be back at that bakery if it doesn’t go under first.
 
It’s whack a mole then. This is why we still have this problem after decades.

Those illegals that ICE rounded up will be replaced instantly at another business. Eventually they will be back at that bakery if it doesn’t go under first.
So we get politicians to work for us. In the interim they don't so we use what we got until we get a better solution.
 
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/a...-bakery-labor-issues-pit-blacks-vs-hispanics/

At major Northwest Side bakery, labor issues pit blacks vs. Hispanics



In a nutshell the company had a policy of hiring illegals through temp agencies and not hiring qualified blacks from the surrounding communities. They did this because they could low ball the illegals and they wouldn't complain about lower wages and illegal working conditions. The blacks they did hire on where paid higher wages and the illegals took issue with it so they froze the blacks out. They did it by not communicating with them on job assignments and giving blacks the shittiest jobs causing a high turn over rate among black employees. This went all the way up to the Hispanic supervisors.

Some of the black employees got together and called ICE on the company and they did a sweep and now the company is 90% black and 10% Hispanic. The owner in turn sold the company claiming he couldn't make his obligations to his customers and now the Hispanic workers are trying to confront the black workers.

If you still think DACA and those safe haven cities that almost always seem to be in high black population areas are a good thing then you ain't paying attention. This is about resources and resources are a finite thing in this country. We can not afford to have to compete with a group of people who are willing to undercut labor laws and wage laws. A $14 an hour job to most of you may not mean a thing but to a lot of us it could mean the difference between life or death. Especially now since safety net programs are being cut everyday.


This story exemplifies a hardship of many African Americans in a work environment where you can also have illegals working and the supervisor is of or speaks the language of the illegals. Where we get treated like second class citizens. I know those work environments and living environments well. I totally understand them calling ICE. That was fucking beautiful. I personally never liked working with many illegals for that reason. They're prejudice blessed and sanctified by their religion. They move as one against you. I'll never forget how Black people were and are terrorized and killed by Mexican ese's in California. Suffice to say I will never hold any judgment against any African American Black person that calls ICE on illegals.
 
It’s whack a mole then. This is why we still have this problem after decades.

Those illegals that ICE rounded up will be replaced instantly at another business. Eventually they will be back at that bakery if it doesn’t go under first.
Yup. Cockroaches, like they call us. Spray for them motherfuckers and flick the light back on, its more of em.
 
Fourteen dollars an hour for working as an unskilled laborer in a bakery? If I owned the company I would be trying to lower my labor costs too.

How is working in a bakery unskilled labor?

I am clueless on what goes on in a bakery.

If I got a job at a bakery tomorrow, I am going to need a lot of training from somebody who knows what the fuck is going on.
 
The fact that there isn't one has nothing to do with the "powers that be". What reason would there have to be some alliance between Blacks and Hispanics? Especially when there are already Black Hispanics and they don't get treated well in that world. I'm not saying "fuck em" but y'all are acting like there's been some long standing connection to some people we never even had contact with before a particular time. They have no interest in forging any alliance with us but we kept talking this "people of color bullshit" Alliances should happen because of a common interest and through negotiation.

Your last sentence, in my opinion, is the only one that made sense and is the point I've been making.
All the rest of the negative you've been preaching just falls into the category of arguing for the sake of argument, again in my opinion. :hmm:
 
How is working in a bakery unskilled labor?

I am clueless on what goes on in a bakery.

If I got a job at a bakery tomorrow, I am going to need a lot of training from somebody who knows what the fuck is going on.

Guess what? You won't be hired as a baker, but labor. It is a major plant. All they are going to need your ass for is carrying huge sacks of flour and sugar and taking it where they tell you to and pouring it where they tell you. And then your ass will be cleaning the machines to prepare for the next batch. And when that batch is through you will be putting donuts in a box and sticking that box into another box to be shipped. Nope you won't be getting training, you will be getting orders.
 
No where near a CAC. I have owned my small business for 30 plus years. That is the point of view I am speaking from. Fuck this idea that only white people consider labor cost when starting business......


What idea. I don't understand how my folk take on someone else's idea about them . Just like the black panther movie brehs came out that joker crying about what I don't know.

That's good for u about your business.
 
I didn’t write the article or give the quote. Reality doesn’t change the perception of most white owners.

To me your both suspect because your like every other white trump supporter foaming at the mouth over illegal alien instead offering a real solution.

You more worried about getting your rocks off with ICE going after Mexicans then presenting real solution for high wages and more job openings for Black people.

So Sampson...dispute anything I have said that wouldn’t instantly eliminate illegal aliens from the work force. Let’s see your direct answer or solution.
Again, post your hand in the verification thread. It takes one minute. Of course you swerve what we’ve been talking about, AGAIN ignoring the anti-black attitude shown by Hispanics.
 
He’s a white boy who pretends to be black. That’s why he was cool with obama ignoring blacks while helping everybody else.
It’s obvious at this point. NUMEROUS times he’s been asked to verify himself because he says way too much suspect shit. He does the typical tactic of dodging direct questions. NOT ONCE in this thread has he addressed the illegals making it hard for Black people to work in that environment. All he wants to focus on is some kum bye ya shit. @Watcher put up or shut up, post your hand.
 
Y'all going at each other not addressing the real issue here. By the day, how and why is your support for DACA waining or, fuck it, increasing? For me, as many spelled out in here, Hispancis have chosen the Cac side and are in it for self-preservation. They will turn on us in a heartbeat. Sure, not all, but it wont be enough to stop them become the majority beneath white people and totally assuming the role of shitting on blacks alongside cacs.
 
It’s obvious at this point. NUMEROUS times he’s been asked to verify himself because he says way too much suspect shit. He does the typical tactic of dodging direct questions. NOT ONCE in this thread has he addressed the illegals making it hard for Black people to work in that environment. All he wants to focus on is some kum bye ya shit. @Watcher put up or shut up, post your hand.

This thread should tell stupid niggaz that no one will equate them to their own people. But negroes stay talking unity and equality while everyone else wants power.

The video shows how Hispanics will treat blacks when they’re in power. And the thing is these other non white groups have no white guilt in their racism.
 
It’s obvious at this point. NUMEROUS times he’s been asked to verify himself because he says way too much suspect shit. He does the typical tactic of dodging direct questions. NOT ONCE in this thread has he addressed the illegals making it hard for Black people to work in that environment. All he wants to focus on is some kum bye ya shit. @Watcher put up or shut up, post your hand.
Fuck you’re delusional.

I’ve given a solution to get them out of the work force permantly. How can they make a work environment hard for Black people if they aren’t here dumbass.

Present a better solution and answer the question. I’ll do your request when you answer my question.

You’re buddies with Megatron X claiming others are white. Comedy

The article clearing stats how white owners are pitting one against the other. But you two clowns ignore the white puppet master.
 
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He’s a white boy who pretends to be black. That’s why he was cool with obama ignoring blacks while helping everybody else.

It’s obvious at this point. NUMEROUS times he’s been asked to verify himself because he says way too much suspect shit. He does the typical tactic of dodging direct questions. NOT ONCE in this thread has he addressed the illegals making it hard for Black people to work in that environment. All he wants to focus on is some kum bye ya shit. @Watcher put up or shut up, post your hand.

A simple search with our usernames and ‘white people’ will reveal the truth.
 
Yes, and the exceptions means nothing. Hopefully by now, niggaz got their fucking heads right. I am glad Trump is president so these other groups can feel that wrath. Niggaz who been here for 500 years know what these whites are all about but these other groups who been here less than 50 years don't

Obama played these stupid niggaz for 8 years. They been up here worshipping this shit bag while he helping everyone else but screwing these dumb negroes. They refused to get anything out of his administration.

That's why I'm glad Trump is in office to light a fire up under these niggaz asses. They bitch and whine about voting but these same fools never tried to exercise their power with Obama. Hypocrites!

Good. You need Trump. He's the only one who will put


What is Trump gonna do?

Trump seems like he own man. He's use to taking his own orders. I wonder how he'll do with the elite watching over him? He does his own shit plus he's a psycho so he may not be controlled. He's already signing out executive orders so he better watch his back cause the elite may not like it.

This is the wife of you niggaz white savior. Jewish people have a notorious history of economically exploiting people and taking advantage of people especially the dumb negro.

Y'all complain about Trump everyday but The Sanders or Clintons would have been screwing you dumb coons while smiling in your faces. At least Trump is bold with how he feels.

Sanders voted to Bring Assatta Shakur back.

Sanders knew how dumb a lot of blacks were for them voting for obama and not getting anything out of him for 8 years.

I'm glad he's in office. We need open racism. Closet racism keeps these stupid niggaz asleep. People like Clinton, Sanders and that faggot Obama would've kept these stupid niggaz asleep. These got nothing when that faggot obama was in office and they expect to be taken seriously. They love obama for what reasons I don't know.

What’s the difference between Trump being in office vs when obama was in office? As far as niggaz go. I haven’t really seen any difference.
 
I been saying that Clinton and Sanders are way more dangerous than Trump. Trump is more straightforward which I can respect. Closet racist like Clinton or Sanders will have you thinking they're for you while behind closed doors plotting your demise.

But I don't know if you can get to these stupid niggas. They play stupid as if Obama was great for them. He's done nothing for these stupid niggaz.

This is the reason I want him in there so this can happen. They're not hearing you though. It's not like I like this person personally or think he's a good dude. He's a devil created to do evil.

Fuck this shit. Bring it! Let Trump in. You niggas want to stay on this plantation. Not me. I'm sick of being some damn Slave. I want independence. Sick of looking to whites for everything so they can keep controlling your destiny and keep killing you. You wonder why bw don't respect niggaz? This is it. How can you call yourself a man begging another man to treat you like a man???

What is Trump gonna do that Hillary isn't? One is out in the open with racism and the other is a closet racist. One has more of a track record of harming blacks as a whole but y'all make it seem like Trump is the worst of the two. I'm trying to understand that logic.

You say the lesser of two evils. One has a history of high encarceration of blacks than 2 previous republican presidents combined and the other had blacks discriminated against in housing. One refused to apologize to the blacks falsely accused of raping a white bitch and the other called blacks super predators. Which one is worse?

If you gave me a choice I'd rather deal with an honest out in the open racist. I know how to deal with them and can't maneuver them cause I know where they're coming from. I can't stand a pretender cause you're unaware of the danger theyll place you in.

I don't care who gets in there. I'm in Brazil chillin. Fuck this election don't vote. But I would rather have trump in office cause niggaz operate better in blatant racism and white supremacy. How do you think Black Wall Streer was created? It wasn't because of a loving, liberal and welcoming white population.

So what's gonna happen to blacks under Trump that hasn't happened under obama? Are police gonna start shooting unarmed blacks? Will there be high unemployment? Will a white racist shoot up a black church? Will the utopia under Obama become racist? What?
 
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Yeah that's a cocksucker. There was a time I use to think niggaz would do right but they can't. They want to imitate white behavior shit more than whites in this white supremacist world. They're White oppressor in black face. That's why I say put Trump in office to deal with these uppity, oppression corrupted, white copycat minded niggaz. I just wish there were enough niggaz on here to withhold their money from this site then we'd see what's up.

I don't think Obama attended one either and if he did he gave y'all a get off your ass speech. But That's why I like Trump. He's gonna be the best president blacks would need. Blacks will be forced to create their own economy and do for self like Black Wall Street under a blatantly racist administration. Those type of racist are the best to deal with. Hopefully blacks will stop looking to whites as their damn mommy and daddy. Do for self!

What is giving youth a good image when police are killing and beating the youth? Obama is a piece of dog doo doo.

I've said before that people like a Bernie Sanders, Obama and Clintons are more dangerous than a trump. With Trump you already know what he's on and how to deal with it. He's straight out with his racism but Clinton or sanders pretends to be for you while behind closed doors plotting your demise.

It's like walking down the steet in the hood with somebody you think is down with you but really setting you up to get smoked. Next thing you know he brings you into a dark ally talking to you about the NBA finals then bullets come flying at you from out of no where.

Obama is a pussy, a coward! You niggaz up here still defending this piece of shit you deserve to treated like low life form. You look like 5th graders asking stupid questions, 'what do you expect him to do.'

He been in there 8 years and have tried his best to ignore you niggaz but you still defend him like your his abused bitch still trying to protect the abusing husband cause you think it's love by him ignoring and abusing you.

But you have all the power in the world to protest trump. Defending somebody who's done nothing for you is a sign of a mentally defect person.

The black church who supports Trump I doubted is the reason I wanted him in office. With the church it's for financial reasons and not really caring about niggaz cause the church has always been a religious leech in the hood. I feel an outright racist will force blacks into self sufficiency. People like Obama and the Clintons have put niggaz to sleep for so long. A blatant racist will wake y'all up.

I've said before that I would rather deal with this type of person that one who pretends. Hillary or Sanders is more dangerous than Trump. With Trump you know what you're dealing with.

Don't vote! It's useless.

Start an economic base. Supporting black banks were the start. Also I said long ago you better learn some self defense. Whites as well as others are bold as hell. They think they're gonna just put their hands on you and get away.

Good you need Trump. He's gonna force you niggaz to do for self and to stop looking at whites as your damn mommy and daddy. Create your own economy and stop relying on whites for every damn thing, food, clothing, shelter, jobs, etc.

The same chic that was slobbering over Bush. The Obamas should treat niggaz like they're stupid. Niggaz stay backing them. But you knuckleheads are beginning to wake up the more the race soldiers stick it to you.

You're up here getting genecided, underemployed, poisoned and gentrified under their administration and they're telling you how you should vote. What arrogance they have towards you.

I still want to know what worse Trump will do that's not already done?
 
I hope trump gets in their. That's who we need. All this liberal shit gotta go. I would rather have somebody in office who I knows hate me instead of some democrat who pretends while fucking me up at the same time.

Obama, Clintons, sanders are no good for negroes. They've proven this. It's gonna be the same shit. You think these liberal politicians backing you while u getting fucked up.

U thought cause Clinton went into the black churches, smoked weed, and played the sax he was cool but yet yo ass got locked up more under his administration than bush and Reagan combined.

At least with trump I know what I'm dealing with. People says he won't be president but I believe he will.

Put Trump in office. That's what niggaz need. I'm sick of broken promises and being stabbed in the back by these liberals who take advantage of niggaz.

Get rid of affirmative action and social programs blacks keep relying. When this happens blacks will be forced to do for self, create their own jobs, their own economy and grow their own food just like B4 integration. No more relying on whites who give u nothing. We seen what relying on whites has done.

You dudes are still looking for some white savior. I would think you'd learn from Obama and Clinton but you haven't. That's why I say put trump in their. This passive shit gotta go. Let him take away every little benefit blacks have so they finally create their own fucking businesses and economy and have protection from racist police. These so called liberals all have to do is smile at you dudes and say MLK and niggaz fall asleep

Sanders is now your white knight since he said he marched with MLK. Many Jewish people marched with King and Jews stabbed black people in the back once laws were passed. These people will do the same once they get in office. Niggaz fall for this shit every election.

No blacks should be at these Trump protests yet. Blacks should be protesting Obama. That bastard has ignored blacks as blacks have been genocided out here by police and in every other way. I think it's hypocritical to criticize Trump but give that bastard, Obama, a pass.

What is Trump gonna do that hasn't been done to blacks under Obama???? Please tell me. So, we been living in a Utopia under Obama?

You dudes kill me with political shit. Whoever gets in there you're still gonna be treated like niggaz by everybody. The election will come and go and you'll still have the same issues finding jobs, experiencing racism, shot down by police, you'll be everybody pawn to use as usual, most hatred will still be directed at you, etc.

I've said the change will come when you build your own economy and stop looking at whites as mommy and daddy. Otherwise you still be treated like you've always been treated. At least with Trump he's bold with his beliefs so I can deal with that better.

Obama has done nothing but play you negroes. Obama is a piece of shit. He's shit you step on on the sidewalk.

Onama's a piece of shit. These niggaz giving him all this props are pathetic coons. He has done nothing but give these niggaz microscopic scraps and they're up here talking about missing him. This is only negro psyche...only negro psyche. Other groups would have been on his ass and had him kicked out of office. All you have to do is smile, give negroes a few scraps, and sing a song for them you'll be missed.

I said before that these stupid coons should be protesting Obama not Trump yet. But these coons won't cause they love Obama cause Obama gives them nothing.
 
Your last sentence, in my opinion, is the only one that made sense and is the point I've been making.
All the rest of the negative you've been preaching just falls into the category of arguing for the sake of argument, again in my opinion. :hmm:
Lol well NONE of what you just said makes sense, since you said ALL THAT just to agree
 
Guess what? You won't be hired as a baker, but labor. It is a major plant. All they are going to need your ass for is carrying huge sacks of flour and sugar and taking it where they tell you to and pouring it where they tell you. And then your ass will be cleaning the machines to prepare for the next batch. And when that batch is through you will be putting donuts in a box and sticking that box into another box to be shipped. Nope you won't be getting training, you will be getting orders.

You just described the job of a Apprentice.

The labor you described is training you in the fundamentals of bakery operations.

It’sas if you start out in McDonalds with no restaurant experience. They ain’t putting you on the grill and train you on making burgers....they start you out mopping floors, cleaning bathrooms, taking out garbage, assist unloading delivery truck, cleaning the eating area, etc.

It’s called starting at the bottom and working your ass up.
 
Fuck you’re delusional.

I’ve given a solution to get them out of the work force permantly. How can they make a work environment hard for Black people if they aren’t here dumbass.

Present a better solution and answer the question. I’ll do your request when you answer my question.

You’re buddies with Megatron X claiming others are white. Comedy

The article clearing stats how white owners are pitting one against the other. But you two clowns ignore the white puppet master.
So again, you avoid their anti black sentiment and you won’t post your hand AGAIN. Thanks for proving my point. Everyone can see you’re not black.
 
Had a lengthy conversation with a Cac perpetrator. Entire time he’s saying his name is A Cac name. He’s clearly Hispanic. Looks like A Mexican speaks like a Cuban. I ask his Nationality and he says nationalities mean nothing and launches into some shit about it people human construct. Mentions blacks, Mike Brown, etc. long short I ask to see his ID. It said Caucasian. Real name: Juaquin Garcia.

He tossed the race card line and I told him I was gonna touch him up. He goes “that would be assault!” Hispanic with Cac on his ID, talking shit about blacks. Less and less fucks given about DACA everyday.
 
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