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President Obama: 'If You Don't Vote, That's a Vote for Trump'
  • By JOHN PARKINSON
Sep 28, 2016, 10:56 AM

President Obama has made it clear to voters: if you don't want Donald Trump as president, choose Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton instead.

“If you don't vote, that's a vote for Trump,” Obama stressed in a new line of attack during a radio interview with Steve Harvey that aired Wednesday morning. “If you vote for a third-party candidate who's got no chance to win, that's a vote for Trump.”

The president conducted the interview via telephone on Tuesday, reacting to the first presidential debate and urging listeners to register to vote.

“People just do not give [Hillary Clinton] credit, and part of it maybe is because she's a woman and we have not elected a woman president before,” Obama said. “But here's somebody who, as I said at the convention, is as qualified as anybody who has ever run for this office, and she's been on the right side of the issues that we care about, and we need to support her and that begins by making sure that everybody is registered and everybody is voting. The stakes in this election is so high.”

The president criticized Trump’s performance during Monday’s debate, noting the moments when Trump crowed about not paying federal taxes and capitalizing on the housing crisis.

"You know, for someone who wants to be president of the United States, and you're not thinking about the hardship of foreclosures and people losing their homes and being out on the streets, that your only focus is, how can I make a buck off it? Yeah, that's not the kind of person that I think we want representing us in the Oval Office," Obama remarked.

Obama also denounced Trump's treatment of women in the interview.

"You had somebody who basically insulted women and then doubled-down ... in terms of how he talks about them, and talks about their weight and talks about, you know, how they look instead of the content of their character and capabilities, which is not something that I want, not somebody I want in the Oval Office that my daughters are listening to, and that sons are listening to," Obama said. "And so, across the board, you know, you've got somebody who appears to only care about himself."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-vote-vote-trump/story?id=42416587

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EPDC said:
I'm holding my nose and voting for Billary, but I disagree with the logic.

A candidate should focus on earning a vote, not attempt to scare others into voting for them.
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In every election I have been alive for I would agree with you. This one is different.

Trump as President would be a catastrophe. I would vote Ted Cruz if it was just him vs Trump for President.

Also, the Democrats have presented a liberal platform. This should scare the shit out of everyone.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...rmanent_us_57eb7636e4b082aad9b7e9ab?section=&
 
"If you vote for someone other than Hillary or you don't vote at all, you are helping Hillary's opponent." — Michelle Obama in Philadelphia

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I thrived under Bush, under Obama, and I will thrive under Hillary or Trump. I would never leave my fate in the hands of someone whose not elected to act in my best interest.

If Trump can ruin black people as a collective, then we were too close to the edge, and should take that as a sign that being that close to the edge can no longer be an option.

I will not be manipulated into voting for someone who referred to me as a 'super predator'. I will not align myself with a party who is used to pacify me, and not truly empower me.

Fuck each and every one of those white supremacist, Skull and Bone faggots.
 
The same chic that was slobbering over Bush. The Obamas should treat niggaz like they're stupid. Niggaz stay backing them. But you knuckleheads are beginning to wake up the more the race soldiers stick it to you.

You're up here getting genecided, underemployed, poisoned and gentrified under their administration and they're telling you how you should vote. What arrogance they have towards you.

I still want to know what worse Trump will do that's not already done?
 
One of the reasons that there are not viable options other than republican or democrat is this type of thinking.

This logic is why we are under the control of the establishment democrats and republicans in national elections and have to choose between whichever candidates they give us.

The logic only serves to help keep the status quo.

I also read the article twice and saw a couple times he catered to the woman's vote but I must have missed him talking to the black voters.

BTW

I see him talking about Trumps lack of concern in regards to the housing crash, a crash in which many black people suffered but also many with money made a killing be able to buy those properties very cheaply.

What I don't see is what was done to fix that harm that was done. There was a HAMP program that while it allowed many to keep their homes it also allowed the banks to keep making their profits on loans for property that was no longer worth the loan amounts.

The program also allowed banks to discriminately decide who would be accepted.

The banks were bailed out to the tune of almost a trillion dollars.

But what was done for the people hurt by the banks ? Nothing much. If they were able to stay in their homes they stayed with underwater mortgages, if not they lost their homes and all they had put into them. But there was tremendous wealth lost and nothing done to alleviate that damage.
 
Maxxam said:
I'm not voting for Hillary. She'll win Ca by a landslide anyway.

Please don't just vote for that bitch and skip your mayor, propositions, state reps, city council and so on :smh:
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that cannot be said enough.

It would be nice if those on the national stage would say that as well.

I realize that you may not want to vote for Trump of Hillary .

I think Hillary is the right person for the job to continue what I have started ect ect ect.

This election is too important to allow Trump to win ect ect ect

But whatever you decide please please please make sure you vote locally for your school boards, your mayors, your judges, your DAs your sheriffs your legislators governors .

Use your vote to make a difference ..
 
ballscout1 said:
One of the reasons that there are not viable options other than republican or democrat is this type of thinking.

This logic is why we are under the control of the establishment democrats and republicans in national elections and have to choose between whichever candidates they give us.

The logic only serves to help keep the status quo.

I also read the article twice and saw a couple times he catered to the woman's vote but I must have missed him talking to the black voters.

BTW

I see him talking about Trumps lack of concern in regards to the housing crash, a crash in which many black people suffered but also many with money made a killing be able to buy those properties very cheaply.

What I don't see is what was done to fix that harm that was done. There was a HAMP program that while it allowed many to keep their homes it also allowed the banks to keep making their profits on loans for property that was no longer worth the loan amounts.

The program also allowed banks to discriminately decide who would be accepted.

The banks were bailed out to the tune of almost a trillion dollars.

But what was done for the people hurt by the banks ? Nothing much. If they were able to stay in their homes they stayed with underwater mortgages, if not they lost their homes and all they had put into them. But there was tremendous wealth lost and nothing done to alleviate that damage.
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It's too late for this election.

A realistic 3rd party option has to start with congressional seats.
 
Watcher said:
It's too late for this election.

A realistic 3rd party option has to start with congressional seats.
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I understand what you are saying but it is also what is always said election after election and nothing changes.

There is always something wrong with the others party candidate that makes it too important to waste a vote.

Notice how it is said to waste a vote ..The narrative is set.

And there may never be a realistic third party but the threat has to be real to make the established parties take notice.

The threat of Sanders supporters not voting democratic was enough to make the DNC change the platform. Time will tell if they intend to govern based on that.

But that threat got attention even though 90% had already polled for Clinton..

There will always be a reason given not to stray and to stay home where it's safe.
 
That seems like the unintentional consequence since Trump is losing really bad when it comes to black votes and he knows the third party has no chance of winning.

But before I vote for a third party I rather not vote.

Who is Gary Johnson and Jill Stein? :dunno:
 
I Wrote That I Despised Hillary Clinton. Today, I Want To Publicly Take It Back.
09/28/2016 09:03 am ET | Updated 1 hour ago

Bernie bro” rooting hard for Sen. Sanders.

Watching the candidate of my dreams get steam late and lose in the primary wasn’t so different from watching my favorite football team not have enough energy to complete a fourth quarter rally. Hopeful, exciting, but ultimately deflating and disappointing.

When Hillary Clinton became the presumptive Democratic nominee, I was distraught. Months before I had written about her on Huffington Post, explaining that I despised her not for her gender — as some of her supporters accused — but for her hawkishness, her center-left policies, her husband’s crime bill that incarcerated so many people of color, her support for the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and her inability to get progressive on climate change policy.

I’ve spent almost every waking hour of every day following this election, reading about Hillary, Donald Trump, both parties’ platforms, and the under-qualified Libertarian and Green Party candidates running. During these months of obsessing over my choice, I’ve watched my position slowly shift. I’ve felt myself start advocating for Hillary more than advocating a vote against Trump, culminating in last night’s debate when she finally, totally, completely won me over.

While it’s easy to make the case for voting against Trump, it occurred to me during the debate last night how much we’ve taken Clinton for granted.

In an election that features one of the most well-documented liars and scam artist businessmen to ever run for public office, much of the attention has been on him — how we can’t put him in office, give him keys to a nuclear warhead, trust him in the most powerful position in the world. Some of it has been more positive: how he’d turn the system on its head, be a Washington outsider, completely rewrite the script. While it’s easy to make the case for voting against Trump, it occurred to me during the debate last night how much we’ve taken Clinton for granted.

Let’s start with a simple but important position: Hillary Clinton is the most qualified person to ever run for president.

Measuring qualifications, of course, is somewhat subjective. She’s never served in the military and never run her own business, something previous candidates have done. But she was a secretary of state for four years, a U.S. senator for eight years, a first lady who lived in the White House, saw the challenges of being president up close and personal for eight years, a first lady of Arkansas, and a law professor to boot. If she were elected, she’d be the first former cabinet member to become president in almost 100 years.

Just months before 9/11, Hillary Clinton became a U.S. senator in New York. She served for eight years in the city and was a key architect of the $21 billion federal aid bill that helped rebuild the city after her term started with the worst tragedy New York had ever seen. But perhaps what she is most remembered for is fighting for the health bill that served first responders in the first 48 hours after the attack. While Donald Trump bragged about his building now being the tallest in New York City, Clinton was fighting the Environmental Protection Agency to admit the air wasn’t safe to breathe. That’s why Clinton has the support of so many 9/11 first responders and survivors: they remember her work as a senator of New York.

But guess what? Google “Clinton health bill 9/11” and you’ll find nothing but results about her nearly fainting outside a 9/11 memorial service, one she attended while diagnosed with pneumonia.

That wasn’t the first time Clinton had advocated for a strong health care bill, though. In 1994, a universal health care bill that Hillary Clinton pushed for had failed as the Clinton administration came into office. Then Democrats lost the House and then lost the Senate for the first time in 40 years. Democrats had essentially given up on health care reform, until First Lady Clinton helped the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). She’s largely credited with getting the bill into law, and it became the largest expansion of taxpayer-funded health insurance in three decades.

[Hillary] Clinton has traveled the world advocating a better life for women in places where that concept wasn’t even on the radar.

Today, the bill has resounding bi-partisan support, and 8.4 million children — many of them low-income — are enrolled in its program.

As she mentioned in the debate, her time as secretary of state required everything from traveling to 112 countries and debating peace deals and ceasefires, to negotiating the release of dissidents — men and women who pushed back against authoritarian regimes. What she didn’t mention was just how real that “stamina” was: She set records for travel as secretary of state.

But during Clinton’s time as secretary, she also advocated a powerful, important worldview: that the United States could be a force of good and progressivism across the world, advocating for human rights, development, and equality in nations that may not know any of those things. She pushed for investment and accommodation with Asian powers such as China, who she knows we can share mutual goals with like preventing war in the Asian Pacific and spurring economic growth by investing in the future of technology.

In the beginning of her term as secretary of state, Clinton had to win over President Barack Obama — something that, at the time, was not guaranteed. They had a heated primary battle and many thought they may never mend those wounds. But today, Obama is one of her biggest advocates. Despite publicly disagreeing with her at times, most notably on the specifics of Syrian intervention, he’s come to trust her counsel and had her present for some of their biggest moments in the situation room, such as when she helped him coordinate the assassination of Osama bin Laden.

Perhaps Clinton’s greatest blemish on her record is the destabilizing of Libya, which led to the Benghazi diplomatic compound attack. Certainly, it was one of the career bullet points that made me despise her. But despite $7 million dollars spenton Benghazi investigations, 1,982 published pages of reports on Benghazi, 10 congressional committees participating in investigations, 3,194 questions asked in a public forum, Clinton and her administration have been found guilty of zero wrongdoing. No “stand down” call was ever found, one of the cornerstones of the Republican claims. The family of Chris Stevens — the ambassador who became the face of the Benghazi tragedy after he was killed in the siege — has publicly objected to blaming Clinton for Benghazi.

Even more lost in the Benghazi witch hunt is a simple reality: during George W. Bush’s presidency, there were 13 attacks on U.S. embassies that killed 60 people. Yet his career and record were not marred by these. Despite that, Trump and his campaign still thought it should have been brought up in last night’s debate.

Throughout her time in public service, Hillary Clinton has negotiated ceasefires in Israel, put the Lilly Ledbetter Pay Equity Act into law, authored the Pediatric Research Equity Act (which helped re-label drugs to keep millions of children safe), and she got the EU, Russia, China and other world powers to participate in the crippling sanctions on Iran that forced the country to negotiate its nuclear plan out of existence. All while enduring propaganda that thrust Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation — from which there’s also been no evidence of wrongdoing, in fact, quite the contrary — into the public’s mind.

And throughout all that time, Clinton has traveled the world advocating a better life for women in places where that concept wasn’t even on the radar. She’s pushed for paternity leave here in the United States, and became a symbol of women’s rights and women’s progress everywhere. Looking at Secretary Clinton and reading about her accomplishments, it’s tough to think that it was just 100 years ago the U.S. elected the first woman to Congress. That 100 years later, she’s our first female candidate for president to win a primary.

Secretary Clinton, I’m sorry. ... You have accomplished far more in your life as a public servant than just about anyone that’s run for this office...

And what does she get for all of this work? As the debate wrapped up on Monday night, Clinton endured Trump’s threats to mention her husband’s adultery despite the fact he’s had three marriages, and been accused of rape and is a known adulterer. As she eviscerated him on calling women pigs and dogs, Trump lied about his position on the Iraq War, lied about his reasons for not releasing his tax returns, lied about his belief that climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese, lied about his feeling that pregnancy is an “inconvenience” for businesses, lied during his defense of unconstitutional stop and frisk, lied that crime is getting worse in New York, and then lied when he said his temperament was his greatest quality. And what did Clinton get?

On Fox News, they cut to their political analyst Brit Hume describing Clinton: “The TV audience saw the faces of the two candidates,” Hume said. “And she looked composed, smug sometimes ... not necessarily attractive.”

All this work, and what did Clinton get? She got an actual smug, young journalist named Isaac Saul writing about how I despised her, when I hardly knew the depth of her accomplishments, when I was clinging to the pipe dream of a Bernie Sanders presidency that may have never been in the cards, when my own father got ignored while he tried his best to talk some sense into me.

Secretary Clinton, I’m sorry. And I retract my previous position of hatred and angst towards you. You have made mistakes, some of them grave, and some of them unforgivable. Unfortunately, that comes with decades of life in the public eye, pressure and microphones in your face. But you have also accomplished far more in your life as a public servant than just about anyone that’s run for this office, and certainly far more than I ever will. When November rolls around, you’ll have my vote.

And you’ll get it enthusiastically.
 
Trump won't ruin black people as a collective... shit, we've been through slavery, post-reconstruction, Jim Crow, and lynchings and everything else they can throw at us. I look at it this way though... there is 1 seat up currently for replacement on the supreme court, and there will likely be 1 if not 2 more between now and 2020. It is guaranteed that if Trump wins, he will nominate a very conservative justice, and that justice will then be the 5th vote on the conservative side... the side that WILL vote to keep the new voting restrictions in place for the states that have been trying to implement them, which will encourage other states to do the same thing.... basically going against what was the voting rights act. There are other things that 5 (if not 6/7) conservative judges will do, but that one is current, and unquestionable (their intent). So if he gets into office, that will happen.
....plus, the KKK, neo-nazis, etc, love him. why would anyone want to give them a win?



Excelsior said:
I thrived under Bush, under Obama, and I will thrive under Hillary or Trump. I would never leave my fate in the hands of someone whose not elected to act in my best interest.

If Trump can ruin black people as a collective, then we were too close to the edge, and should take that as a sign that being that close to the edge can no longer be an option.

I will not be manipulated into voting for someone who referred to me as a 'super predator'. I will not align myself with a party who is used to pacify me, and not truly empower me.

Fuck each and every one of those white supremacist, Skull and Bone faggots.
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We will eventually need more than two parties. It has to start at the local, county, and state levels. Two party system is a joke, we need other viable options in the future. I am hungover from and fed up with the donkey and elephant circus.
 
mark115 said:
Oh well :dunno: a shitty Trump presidency may be the swift kick in the ass we need to finally get organized and start doing things on our own.
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Also try holding your breath hoping someone will acknowledge your "tantrum". There is no such thing as a protest vote.
 
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