You didn't answer the mans question sir.
DACA versus the black struggle
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They've been a fucking joke. From 1971, the prison industrial complex boomed. They've helped reform the criminal injustice system to have the biggest population in the world based on black bodies.
If you notice the trend, some black so-called 'leaders' have the very bad habit of picking up white ideas and running with them. That's why all those fools signed off on the war on drugs for years. Now, they signing off on other bullshit.
So you didn't even answer.
Just answer the questions. Hispanics made gains the last 50 years with white people running shit. Enough gains to pass by a community who had second place in this country on fucking lock. How the fuck black people going to take over the democratic party with Hispanic population and money growing like weeds? Shit, when we had a black president some of us were the dumb asses on that
"he's president of all America shit!" Best believe when Hispanics get their turn they ain't saying shit like that. I'm striving to get back to second place because we just had that shit. Got to get to second if we want first place, right? You think hispanics going to give up their advantage as easily as the black community?
You mention every Hispanic disappearing. If every Hispanic disappeared, yeah we'd still have to deal with cacs. Just like our folks did to get Civil Rights. At least our issues would be at the forefront instead of the fucking backburner.
There's no way you can have kids.
No way.
Sure didn't.
I'm being serious to. I'll field that shit to anyone who can answer. I'd love to have an answer. If I'm wrong, best believe I'll admit it. I've done it on this board before.
Let me ask you two serious questions and I hope you answer honestly. Since Hispanics have increased their population to damn near 20 percent in the last 50 or so years and have passed the black community in economic power, how has the black community benefited?
How will the black community benefit by the projected increased brown population growth and growing economic gap? 
White people being a problem is a given man. Do I have to state the sun is up? No. It's up. It will be up tomorrow. The day after. It's a fucking constant. Understand? Fuck republicans. If a snake bites me or a shark tries to consume me, they doing them. It's to be expected. If the dog you raised from a pup tries to bite you, there's a fucking problem.
And that's my gripe. White democrats have an agenda for their power and doing what's best for them, not the black community. People don't see the writing on the wall and it's cost a lot over there years.
Your problem is you think we don't pay attention to white systematic and everyday racism. We do. It's a fucking constant. Can't miss it. But what needs to be highlighted is the black community losing political and economic power to other demographics. Shit is not good for the community's future, but democrats love it.
Let me ask you two serious questions and I hope you answer honestly. Since Hispanics have increased their population to damn near 20 percent in the last 50 or so years and have passed the black community in economic power, how has the black community benefited?
Me,you and the majority of black people knows that the Republican Party are a racist party but give the Democratic Party a pass when it comes to racism. It was a Democratic president,who threw black people in prison the most in the last 30 years and started the militarization of the police. You can't forget,how Hiliary called us "super predators" during the 90's also.
He seems think,since well the Democratic Party ain't publicly shitting on black people,so that party is cool. That's not,how white supremacy work,black people as a whole should be more scared of the subtle racism from the Democratic Party than the open racism from the Republican Party. At least,you know what the Republican party thinks about black people instead of trying to figure out which candidate is or isn't racist towards us.
And,I'm sick of tired of people saying "The lesser of two evils" acting like it's a good thing. If,I had the options of eating spinach and broccoli,why should I have to eat the one that I least like when I don't like neither of them....that shit makes no sense at all.
Until,we start our own party or demand something from the Democratic party,this party will continue to ignore our issues.
Yes I did answer your question.They've been a fucking joke. From 1971, the prison industrial complex boomed. They've helped reform the criminal injustice system to have the biggest population in the world based on black bodies.
If you notice the trend, some black so-called 'leaders' have the very bad habit of picking up white ideas and running with them. That's why all those fools signed off on the war on drugs for years. Now, they signing off on other bullshit.
So you didn't even answer.
How the fuck black people going to take over the democratic party with Hispanic population and money growing like weeds? Shit, when we had a black president some of us were the dumb asses on that
I'm striving to get back to second place because we just had that shit. Got to get to second if we want first place, right? You think hispanics going to give up their advantage as easily as the black community?
You mention every Hispanic disappearing. If every Hispanic disappeared, yeah we'd still have to deal with cacs. Just like our folks did to get Civil Rights. At least our issues would be at the forefront instead of the fucking backburner.
There's no way you can have kids.
We can bypass Hispanics if the problem holding us back is addressed. WHITE PEOPLE
Is the next target going to be Asians because they bypassed us because white people still are applying systematic racism. We might as well be talking about cats and dogs bypassing us if you continue to ignore the cause of our non progress.
You must be joking with the kids comment. Our kids future is beyond fucked now because of the republicans running this country and making environment decisions. You did nothing.
https://www.motherjones.com/environ...-and-then-gutted-regulations-protecting-them/
You had MLK,Malcolm X,James Baldwin and many others warn us about white liberals yet some of us don't want to listen.
There will be no perfect party as long as white people are in it. If you can’t admit what the republicans are doing right now isn’t harming every black person in this country 1000fold compared to Obama’s 8 years your lying.
An all Black political party, yea right. The first organized event white people would have it squashed in a blink of an eye while you all talked about eskimos catching up to us.
Ok...white liberals and brown people are the main threat. Good news, they have no power in this country.
SOLVED
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-years/?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.a32703e123a2
Ain't been no progress bih
You didn't answer. I asked about how the community has benefited.
You keep talking about white people but they somehow are racists against brown and yellow people and those demographics have made unprecedented gains. So you want these 'poc' to be sympathetic to our plight when they can't get enough Asians into Ivy league schools and the tech sector and Hispanics doing their own thing?
So magically, these demographics are excelling like hell and you going to sell them to be allies against white people, right? That's the plan.
Still waiting to hear how we going to benefit or will benefit. Other demographics been killing it since Civil Rights.
Thing with white liberals is they need to listen to us and not the other way around. Shit starts to go awry when we listen to them. They can and have been allies, but they must be directed by us, not the other way around.
The last 45-50 years has been them dictating the pace. The fucking 80s and 90s. Just damn.
I don’t know how many times I have to say it....there will be no benefit if whites are in position of power. Those other groups white people dont hate as much as Black people. That simple. White people have mostly stayed out of their way. Hispanic growth has drawn the attention of the racists white people recently.You didn't answer. I asked about how the community has benefited.
You keep talking about white people but they somehow are racists against brown and yellow people and those demographics have made unprecedented gains. So you want these 'poc' to be sympathetic to our plight when they can't get enough Asians into Ivy league schools and the tech sector and Hispanics doing their own thing?
So magically, these demographics are excelling like hell and you going to sell them to be allies against white people, right? That's the plan.
Still waiting to hear how we going to benefit or will benefit. Other demographics been killing it since Civil Rights.
Hispanics are the greatest threat to white people losing the majority and power of position. That’s why Trump is going after them. See how smart they are...focus on the biggest threat.
And yes that’s the plan. When anyone doesn’t have the means to take on threat head on and alone they seek allies. Don’t you watch the Walking Dead.
I don’t care what anyone else is doing but Black people and white people. White people are not going to let a person of color push them out of power.
The day Hispanics represent 80% of the police force, run all of government I’ll start caring what they are up to.
The trees didn't know the lumberjacks came to harm them because the axe had a wooden handle.
#drakesong (ain't that about a bitch)?
The bill is some BS but still tho..
The bill is some BS but still tho..
This brother was going off.
Follow the thread
Follow the thread
Damn. Thanks for the drop. But if I weren't on BGOL, I wouldn't be seeing none of this. Far too many black politicians and talking heads bought and paid for.
BGOL is so biased it ain't even funny.Damn. Thanks for the drop. But if I weren't on BGOL, I wouldn't be seeing none of this. Far too many black politicians and talking heads bought and paid for.
Damn. Thanks for the drop. But if I weren't on BGOL, I wouldn't be seeing none of this. Far too many black politicians and talking heads bought and paid for.
You got members on this board that will defend the Democrats for their fuckery but quick to call you a Trump supporter....
And what's even more crazy nobody isn't willing to call out the Democrats policies.
You got members on this board that will defend the Democrats for their fuckery but quick to call you a Trump supporter....
And what's even more crazy nobody isn't willing to call out the Democrats policies.
Used to not be anything like that. It became hard to talk politics on BGOL after Obama. Fielding the same criticisms about democrats while Bush was in office didn't get you called a coon. Before Obama, there wasn't BGOL political group think. This cocksucker Trump just made it worse.
Swear around 2003 you could criticize democrats for Iraq/Afghanistan or their other fuckery without being called a Bush supporter. Now you talk about these pandering, incompetent fucks and you a republican or support Trump. Shit is childish.
Politics on BGOL has become more and more like the rest of the Internet. It's support group shit.
Yes, US Immigration Hurts ADOS.
ADOS Politics + Reparations 2020
Apr 16
image via iStock
Yes. US immigration hurts ADOS.
I didn’t want to believe it either.
Growing up in the liberal bastion that (used to be) DC, every progressive talking point was on my lips all of the time, regardless of whether it was correct or not.
(For example, I’ve long since stopped believing in socialism).
Being “anti-immigration” is for the “racist redneck fools” that hate brown people. Right?
Being “anti-immigration” means a person is unwise, hasn’t traveled the world, and probably hates Mexican food. Right?
For what it’s worth, I have traveled the world. And loved it! The world is beautiful and other cultures are amazing. I’m in no way advocating for xenophobia or racism. But we have to look at the facts.
US immigration hurts ADOS.
The Facts
Thanks to Twitter user IndyMama8 for her thorough research and links.
The first link that caught my eye was a PDF called “Immigration and the Economic Status of African-American Men.” In this Harvard study, a 10% increase in new workers — US immigrants — lowered Black employment by 5.9 points and increased Black incarceration by 1.3 points [1].
… What?
It was my first time seeing a correlation between US immigration and Black suffering. Increased incarceration has been a huge scourge on the ADOS community. Arguably, decreased employment directly leads to increased incarceration. If you can’t fend for yourself legally, you’ll fend for yourself illegally. No judgement about it, that’s just how things tend to go.
For years, we’ve had discussions about how crack cocaine lead to crime. Benign neglect lead to poor schools. Police profiling lead to increased wrongful incarceration and death. And yes, all of these things are true.
But hiding behind the screen of “It’s racist to think that” was yet another issue leading to ADOS disenfranchisement. Immigration leads to fewer jobs and reduced wages.
In a 2016 article following his research paper, George Borjas drove the point home again:
This … message might be hard for many Americans to process, but anyone who tells you that immigration doesn’t have any negative effects doesn’t understand how it really works. When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. [2]
In his paper, “Neoliberal Immigration Policy and Its Impact on African Americans,” University of Notre Dame professor Stephen Steinberg absolutely lays into US immigration policy for the immense harm it has done to the African American community. Specifically the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, which allowed non-white immigrants to legally naturalize in the United States for the first time.
That Act was created on the tail-end of the Black Civil Rights Movement (note the year — 1965), and allowed non-white immigrants to obtain jobs and labor “on the backs” of the ADOS residents that had paved the way [3].
In 2008, Vernon Briggs, a professor at Cornell University, testified before the U.S. Commision on Civil Rights. In that testimony he said:
Because most illegal immigrants overwhelmingly seek work in the low skilled labor market and because the black American labor force is so disproportionately concentrated in this same low wage sector, there is little doubt that there is significant overlap in competition for jobs in this sector of the labor market. Given the inordinately high unemployment rates for low skilled black workers (the highest for all racial and ethnic groups for whom data is collected), it is obvious that the major looser in this competition are low skilled black workers. [4]
The takeaways from research like this — immigration drives wages down. Immigration creates a surplus labor pool so that jobs are harder to get for native-born citizens. When jobs are open, ADOS are usually chosen last and hiring of ADOS is avoided whenever possible.
Again, this isn’t racist diatribe. This is supported by research, data, and by events such as what Dave Seminara described in the LA Times:
This dynamic played out recently at a large bakery in Chicago that supplies buns to McDonald’s. Some 800 immigrant laborers, most of them from Mexico, lost their jobs last year after an audit by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The Cloverhill Bakery, owned by Aryzta, a big Swiss food conglomerate, had to hire new workers, 80% to 90% of whom are African American. According to the "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">Chicago Sun Times, the new workers are paid $14 per hour, or $4 per hour more than the (illegal) immigrant workers. [5]
And, again, by Harvard professors Borjas, Grogger, and Hanson in their paper:
After a wave of raids by federal immigration agents on Labor Day weekend, a local chicken processing company called Crider Inc. lost 75% of its mostly Hispanic 900-member work force. … [F]or local African-Americans, the dramatic appearance of federal agents presented an unexpected opportunity. Crider suddenly raised pay at the plant. An advertisement in the weekly Forest-Blade newspaper blared ‘Increased Wages’ at Crider, starting at $7 to $9 an hour more than a dollar above what the company had paid many immigrant workers. (Wall Street Journal, 17 January 2007) [1]
Finally, a fourth paper. Ron Hayduk for The Aspen Institute:
Immigration appears to have, on balance, contributed somewhat to the declining fortunes of low-skilled workers, although the scale of the estimated effects varies from study to study. Consequently, while they may help boost urban economies- and the comparative advantage of the U.S. economy more generally as well as keep down the rate of inflation-they may also be contributing to heightened inequalities between groups and the degradation of work more generally (Fainstein, 1994)Similarly, although studies show immigration has no negative impacts for black workers taken as a whole, less-skilled black workers and black workers in high immigration areas with stagnant economies are negatively affected. … In high immigration areas … native black wages often do not keep pace with the rising wage trends that immigration brings for Anglos and Hispanics (Enchautegui 1993). [6]
Accusations that ADOS are an “Anti-Immigrant Group”
As I write this, liberal media outlets that know that being anti-immigrant is “racist” are scrambling to brand ADOS as an “anti-immigrant group.”
While we don’t always cite the facts and figures in our conversations about immigration (and some of us do, but even then) we feel and see the effects that uncontrolled immigration has had on our communities.
We take a lower-paying job and see those high wage jobs that “couldn’t be filled by anyone but foreign labor” have been taken by Asian and Indian immigrants.
Or, our cousins have been out of work for months because the local factory no longer hires people like them.
The heritage in our communities is disappearing, because without capital and with rising home taxes, we’re forced to move away from the neighborhood where we were born and a grandmother bought her first house. When we go back, the neighborhood is booming — with white, Asian, and Latino faces.
African-Americans (specifically ADOS) are usually told to stay in solidarity with interests outside of our own. And we have. For years. But as our wages decrease and our jobs leave and our neighborhoods become unrecognizable after generations of being the same, we find that that solidarity is not reciprocated.
Yes, American Descendents of Slavery is a label partially meant to exclude. It is very specific, especially as ADOS came about in connection with "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">demands for Reparations. And it is partially meant to exclude voluntary African immigrants from this claim as well.
Is this unjust? The debates rage back and forth. But the ADOS arguments can be summed up in the phrase,
I’m tired of being your mule.
“Why shouldn’t ADOS support voluntary African immigrants in their claim?” Well, why should we? As has often been repeated online “Pan-Africanism” remains a myth. Voluntary African immigrants rarely support us as we have been pressured to support them.
“Why do ADOS hate immigrants? Are they agents for Russia? Trying to tear the country apart?” Again, we do not hate immigrants. We hate what we have seen in our neighborhoods and with our jobs. We hate a system of government policies that continue an established pattern of benign neglect, prioritizing the rights of people who haven’t gotten here yet over people that have been here for generations. And no we are not agents for Russia. And we love this country and wish for its prosperity as a whole. We just wish that the country wanted that for us, and, beyond wishing, have finally moved to action.
Solutions for the Immigration Problem
“Immigrants are OWED by the US for imperialist policies that have DESTROYED these countries!”
Hey. I’m the last person that will stand between someone and their justice claim against the United States. The US and other organizations such as The World Bank and the IMF have in the past and continue today to enact horrific policy against the Global South.
However,
None of this responsibility lies at the feet of ADOS, no matter how many times you try to lay it there.
Immigration to this country plays into US imperialism. It doesn’t fight it. Lowered wages = lowered costs. Neoliberalist policy demands the most return for the lowest investment possible.
That’s why US companies start civil wars in Latin American countries to destabilize governments… so they can have an easier time planting and harvesting bananas [7][8].
That’s why US companies seize water sources in places like Mexico and Kenya and make it illegal for citizens there to access them [9][10].
That’s why the US fought for “free trade” deals like NAFTA that enabled US corporations to flood developing countries with cheap goods [11][12][13].
For those in the “solidarity” justice community, they’ve probably come across those three facts already.
An honest activist, seeing that US imperialism destroys countries internationally, would focus on ending the practices that permit this.
But, a lot of the activists out here right now are not honest. And they’re very anti-Black (native Black Americans).
It’s enough for them to continue to demand more labor and resources of ADOS, to ask us to keep fighting for immigration, to ignore the common threat against our own best interests, and to give up opportunities and community in service to the global interests.
It seems past time for the United States to close ranks. Stop admitting any immigrants, at all. “Legal” or “not legal.” And yes, I’m aware of how severe that sounds.
However, the nation has its priorities all mixed up.
Native-born citizens are suffering here. Infrastructure is crumbling and outdated.
We should examine birth-right citizenship for foreigners. Again. I know you hear that and think looney town.
But if you think about it, why does a foreign national only need to be born hereto gain access to the country’s entire resources and support? While native-born citizens are still scrambling to try to survive?
Stabilize the country’s economy with people that are from here. Build up communities. Hire people that have roots in the United States to fix and update the infrastructure. And stop using “we need foreign born scientists and technicians” as an excuse. You should have thought of that before. Meanwhile, you can invest in training native citizens now to try to catch up.
And, at the risk of doing labor for people that couldn’t give a f*** about me…
I do think that US imperialism needs to end. Curtail and reprimand corporations for land seizures and more horrific abuses. Close their factories down, seize their assets and use that money as recompense to ruined international communities. And end “Free Trade.”
[1] Immigration and the Economic Status of African-American Men by George Borjas, Jeffrey Grogger, and Gordon Hanson. Retrieved 4–17–19. Economica."); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">https://sites.hks.harvard.edu/fs...
[2] Yes, Immigration Hurts American Workers by George Borjas. Retrieved 4–17–19. Politico Magazine. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">Yes, Immigration Hurts American Workers
[5] Liberals say immigration enforcement is racist, but the group most likely to benefit from it is black men by Dave Seminara. Retrieved 4–17–19. Los Angeles Times. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">Liberals say immigration enforcement is racist, but the group most likely to benefit from it is black men
[10] The End of Poverty? dir. Philippe Diaz. Released 2015 by Cinema Libre Studio. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">THE END OF POVERTY?
[12] U.S. Corn Subsidies Said to Damage Mexico by Elizabeth Becker. Retrieved 4–17–19. The New York Times. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">U.S. Corn Subsidies Said to Damage Mexico
ADOS Politics + Reparations 2020
Apr 16
image via iStock
Yes. US immigration hurts ADOS.
I didn’t want to believe it either.
Growing up in the liberal bastion that (used to be) DC, every progressive talking point was on my lips all of the time, regardless of whether it was correct or not.
(For example, I’ve long since stopped believing in socialism).
Being “anti-immigration” is for the “racist redneck fools” that hate brown people. Right?
Being “anti-immigration” means a person is unwise, hasn’t traveled the world, and probably hates Mexican food. Right?
For what it’s worth, I have traveled the world. And loved it! The world is beautiful and other cultures are amazing. I’m in no way advocating for xenophobia or racism. But we have to look at the facts.
US immigration hurts ADOS.
The Facts
Thanks to Twitter user IndyMama8 for her thorough research and links.
The first link that caught my eye was a PDF called “Immigration and the Economic Status of African-American Men.” In this Harvard study, a 10% increase in new workers — US immigrants — lowered Black employment by 5.9 points and increased Black incarceration by 1.3 points [1].
… What?
It was my first time seeing a correlation between US immigration and Black suffering. Increased incarceration has been a huge scourge on the ADOS community. Arguably, decreased employment directly leads to increased incarceration. If you can’t fend for yourself legally, you’ll fend for yourself illegally. No judgement about it, that’s just how things tend to go.
For years, we’ve had discussions about how crack cocaine lead to crime. Benign neglect lead to poor schools. Police profiling lead to increased wrongful incarceration and death. And yes, all of these things are true.
But hiding behind the screen of “It’s racist to think that” was yet another issue leading to ADOS disenfranchisement. Immigration leads to fewer jobs and reduced wages.
In a 2016 article following his research paper, George Borjas drove the point home again:
This … message might be hard for many Americans to process, but anyone who tells you that immigration doesn’t have any negative effects doesn’t understand how it really works. When the supply of workers goes up, the price that firms have to pay to hire workers goes down. [2]
In his paper, “Neoliberal Immigration Policy and Its Impact on African Americans,” University of Notre Dame professor Stephen Steinberg absolutely lays into US immigration policy for the immense harm it has done to the African American community. Specifically the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, which allowed non-white immigrants to legally naturalize in the United States for the first time.
That Act was created on the tail-end of the Black Civil Rights Movement (note the year — 1965), and allowed non-white immigrants to obtain jobs and labor “on the backs” of the ADOS residents that had paved the way [3].
In 2008, Vernon Briggs, a professor at Cornell University, testified before the U.S. Commision on Civil Rights. In that testimony he said:
Because most illegal immigrants overwhelmingly seek work in the low skilled labor market and because the black American labor force is so disproportionately concentrated in this same low wage sector, there is little doubt that there is significant overlap in competition for jobs in this sector of the labor market. Given the inordinately high unemployment rates for low skilled black workers (the highest for all racial and ethnic groups for whom data is collected), it is obvious that the major looser in this competition are low skilled black workers. [4]
The takeaways from research like this — immigration drives wages down. Immigration creates a surplus labor pool so that jobs are harder to get for native-born citizens. When jobs are open, ADOS are usually chosen last and hiring of ADOS is avoided whenever possible.
Again, this isn’t racist diatribe. This is supported by research, data, and by events such as what Dave Seminara described in the LA Times:
This dynamic played out recently at a large bakery in Chicago that supplies buns to McDonald’s. Some 800 immigrant laborers, most of them from Mexico, lost their jobs last year after an audit by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The Cloverhill Bakery, owned by Aryzta, a big Swiss food conglomerate, had to hire new workers, 80% to 90% of whom are African American. According to the "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">Chicago Sun Times, the new workers are paid $14 per hour, or $4 per hour more than the (illegal) immigrant workers. [5]
And, again, by Harvard professors Borjas, Grogger, and Hanson in their paper:
After a wave of raids by federal immigration agents on Labor Day weekend, a local chicken processing company called Crider Inc. lost 75% of its mostly Hispanic 900-member work force. … [F]or local African-Americans, the dramatic appearance of federal agents presented an unexpected opportunity. Crider suddenly raised pay at the plant. An advertisement in the weekly Forest-Blade newspaper blared ‘Increased Wages’ at Crider, starting at $7 to $9 an hour more than a dollar above what the company had paid many immigrant workers. (Wall Street Journal, 17 January 2007) [1]
Finally, a fourth paper. Ron Hayduk for The Aspen Institute:
Immigration appears to have, on balance, contributed somewhat to the declining fortunes of low-skilled workers, although the scale of the estimated effects varies from study to study. Consequently, while they may help boost urban economies- and the comparative advantage of the U.S. economy more generally as well as keep down the rate of inflation-they may also be contributing to heightened inequalities between groups and the degradation of work more generally (Fainstein, 1994)Similarly, although studies show immigration has no negative impacts for black workers taken as a whole, less-skilled black workers and black workers in high immigration areas with stagnant economies are negatively affected. … In high immigration areas … native black wages often do not keep pace with the rising wage trends that immigration brings for Anglos and Hispanics (Enchautegui 1993). [6]
Accusations that ADOS are an “Anti-Immigrant Group”
As I write this, liberal media outlets that know that being anti-immigrant is “racist” are scrambling to brand ADOS as an “anti-immigrant group.”
While we don’t always cite the facts and figures in our conversations about immigration (and some of us do, but even then) we feel and see the effects that uncontrolled immigration has had on our communities.
We take a lower-paying job and see those high wage jobs that “couldn’t be filled by anyone but foreign labor” have been taken by Asian and Indian immigrants.
Or, our cousins have been out of work for months because the local factory no longer hires people like them.
The heritage in our communities is disappearing, because without capital and with rising home taxes, we’re forced to move away from the neighborhood where we were born and a grandmother bought her first house. When we go back, the neighborhood is booming — with white, Asian, and Latino faces.
African-Americans (specifically ADOS) are usually told to stay in solidarity with interests outside of our own. And we have. For years. But as our wages decrease and our jobs leave and our neighborhoods become unrecognizable after generations of being the same, we find that that solidarity is not reciprocated.
Yes, American Descendents of Slavery is a label partially meant to exclude. It is very specific, especially as ADOS came about in connection with "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">demands for Reparations. And it is partially meant to exclude voluntary African immigrants from this claim as well.
Is this unjust? The debates rage back and forth. But the ADOS arguments can be summed up in the phrase,
I’m tired of being your mule.
“Why shouldn’t ADOS support voluntary African immigrants in their claim?” Well, why should we? As has often been repeated online “Pan-Africanism” remains a myth. Voluntary African immigrants rarely support us as we have been pressured to support them.
“Why do ADOS hate immigrants? Are they agents for Russia? Trying to tear the country apart?” Again, we do not hate immigrants. We hate what we have seen in our neighborhoods and with our jobs. We hate a system of government policies that continue an established pattern of benign neglect, prioritizing the rights of people who haven’t gotten here yet over people that have been here for generations. And no we are not agents for Russia. And we love this country and wish for its prosperity as a whole. We just wish that the country wanted that for us, and, beyond wishing, have finally moved to action.
Solutions for the Immigration Problem
“Immigrants are OWED by the US for imperialist policies that have DESTROYED these countries!”
Hey. I’m the last person that will stand between someone and their justice claim against the United States. The US and other organizations such as The World Bank and the IMF have in the past and continue today to enact horrific policy against the Global South.
However,
None of this responsibility lies at the feet of ADOS, no matter how many times you try to lay it there.
Immigration to this country plays into US imperialism. It doesn’t fight it. Lowered wages = lowered costs. Neoliberalist policy demands the most return for the lowest investment possible.
That’s why US companies start civil wars in Latin American countries to destabilize governments… so they can have an easier time planting and harvesting bananas [7][8].
That’s why US companies seize water sources in places like Mexico and Kenya and make it illegal for citizens there to access them [9][10].
That’s why the US fought for “free trade” deals like NAFTA that enabled US corporations to flood developing countries with cheap goods [11][12][13].
For those in the “solidarity” justice community, they’ve probably come across those three facts already.
An honest activist, seeing that US imperialism destroys countries internationally, would focus on ending the practices that permit this.
But, a lot of the activists out here right now are not honest. And they’re very anti-Black (native Black Americans).
It’s enough for them to continue to demand more labor and resources of ADOS, to ask us to keep fighting for immigration, to ignore the common threat against our own best interests, and to give up opportunities and community in service to the global interests.
It seems past time for the United States to close ranks. Stop admitting any immigrants, at all. “Legal” or “not legal.” And yes, I’m aware of how severe that sounds.
However, the nation has its priorities all mixed up.
Native-born citizens are suffering here. Infrastructure is crumbling and outdated.
We should examine birth-right citizenship for foreigners. Again. I know you hear that and think looney town.
But if you think about it, why does a foreign national only need to be born hereto gain access to the country’s entire resources and support? While native-born citizens are still scrambling to try to survive?
Stabilize the country’s economy with people that are from here. Build up communities. Hire people that have roots in the United States to fix and update the infrastructure. And stop using “we need foreign born scientists and technicians” as an excuse. You should have thought of that before. Meanwhile, you can invest in training native citizens now to try to catch up.
And, at the risk of doing labor for people that couldn’t give a f*** about me…
I do think that US imperialism needs to end. Curtail and reprimand corporations for land seizures and more horrific abuses. Close their factories down, seize their assets and use that money as recompense to ruined international communities. And end “Free Trade.”
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[5] Liberals say immigration enforcement is racist, but the group most likely to benefit from it is black men by Dave Seminara. Retrieved 4–17–19. Los Angeles Times. "); background-size: 1px 1px; background-position: 0px calc(1em + 1px);">Liberals say immigration enforcement is racist, but the group most likely to benefit from it is black men
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Hell, refugees from Haiti can't even step foot on US land regardless of the obstacle... Earthquake, assassination, etc.
(opinion) https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...r-hypocrisy-full-display-he-tells-ncna1274121
I imagine DACA would definitely be a non starter if it were mainly black.
(opinion) https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...r-hypocrisy-full-display-he-tells-ncna1274121
I imagine DACA would definitely be a non starter if it were mainly black.
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