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VAiz4hustlaz

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LIFT EVERY VOICE: THE BIDEN PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA
Joe Biden knows that African Americans can never have a fair shot at the American Dream so long as entrenched disparities are allowed to quietly chip away at opportunity. He is running for President to rebuild our economy in a way that finally brings everyone along—and that starts by rooting out systemic racism from our laws, our policies, our institutions, and our hearts.

The Biden Plan for Black America will:

  • Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps.
  • Expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system.
  • Make far-reaching investments in ending health disparities by race.
  • Strengthen America’s commitment to justice.
  • Make the right to vote and the right to equal protection real for African Americans.
  • Address environmental justice.

Has this gone into effect yet??

@Soul On Ice @Supersav @xfactor @gene cisco @Camille @geechiedan
 

xxxbishopxxx

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Reuters Fact Check
October 18, 20211:27 PMUpdated 4 months ago
Fact Check-Biden’s ambitious HBCU funding proposal challenged in Congress

By Reuters Fact Check

Misleading posts on social media sites say that the Biden administration cut funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by billions of dollars. Congress is still negotiating the amount to be allocated to HBCUs in reconciliation efforts. Posts on social media are misleading in saying that funding cuts have already taken effect, as it is a proposal that is being negotiated in Congress.

Articles (see examples archive.is/H2OGP and archive.is/ZdM8f ) sharing information on budget cuts for HBCUs and minority-serving institutions and a September 2021 congressional mark-up of the Build Back Better Act, observable here appear to be the catalysts for the misinterpretations on social media that the Biden-Harris Administration has made funding cuts to HBCUs.

One post reads, “Biden done cut HBCU funding by almost 40+billion down to 2 billion,” (here) while another says, “Biden’s spending plan cutting the budget at HBCUs by 88% is bullshit.. he does not like black people it’s only obvious at this point !!” (here)

Another user said, “So y’all ain’t gone say nothing about the BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CUTTING HBCU FUNDING!!!!!!!!!!!” (here)

A tweet saying “Joe Biden cut HBCU funding by over a billion..” is visible here .

The claims on social sites have prompted some HBCU leaders to address the misinformation.

Dillard University President Walter Kimbrough shared a Twitter thread on Oct. 5, 2021, on the notion that HBCU funding was slashed by $30 billion (here), saying, “It’s a lie.”

In his thread, he talks about what is given to HBCUs from the federal government through grants and development contracts (here) and how billions in funding were directed to HBCUs during the pandemic with the CARES Act (here) and Biden’s American Rescue Plan (here).

About the “cuts,” he said, “Biden-Harris pledged $70B to HBCUs & other MSIs (see campaign promise here ). “There has never been a proposal that audacious” (here) but that, “since partisan politics is now involved, Biden’s ambitious agenda is being scaled back. So the HBCU funding proposal, along with lots of others, have been revised. This happens all the time, both up and down.” (here)

More on the revision and lowering of the spending proposal here .

In an Oct. 8, 20201 article in Louisiana’s Monroe News-Star (here), Grambling State University President Rick Gallot said, “there’s a misconception that this proposal will lead to a decrease in HBCU funding when, in fact, the bill will lead to additional funding regardless of the outcome.”

Representatives for the White House told Reuters by phone that “the President has not cut funding for HBCUs.” According to a representative, “The President is committed to supporting and helping HBCUs.” (here).

The Biden administration also shared a fact sheet highlighting proposed HBCU funding for FY22. The document is viewable here .

Representatives from the Thurgood Marshall College Fund (TMCF) view the Build Back Better proposal as a “new $2 billion fund for HBCUs and Minority Serving Institutions (MSIs) research infrastructure.”

The organization recognizes the suggested funding as “a brand new pot of money that has not previously existed.”

To Reuters’ questions regarding cuts to HBCU funding, the TMCF representative said, “there has been a decrease based upon the original proposals set forth by the administration, but again, these were not existing programs, but new programs the original figures presented were aspirational goals.”

As of this article’s publication, final 2022 funding allocations for HBCUs are yet to be determined.

The country is waiting for the details of Biden’s proposed budget currently being reconciled by Congress. (More on how Congress decides on a presidential budget request is visible here .)

Reuters reporting on negotiations on Biden’s multi-trillion-dollar spending plan is reviewable here .
VERDICT

Missing Context. Online claims that the Biden Administration cut existing funding for HBCUs are untrue. The Biden administration has made ambitious proposals to increase funding which are currently being negotiated in Congress.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work here .

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VAiz4hustlaz

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Reuters Fact Check
October 18, 20211:27 PMUpdated 4 months ago
Fact Check-Biden’s ambitious HBCU funding proposal challenged in Congress

By Reuters Fact Check

Misleading posts on social media sites say that the Biden administration cut funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by billions of dollars. Congress is still negotiating the amount to be allocated to HBCUs in reconciliation efforts. Posts on social media are misleading in saying that funding cuts have already taken effect, as it is a proposal that is being negotiated in Congress.

Articles (see examples archive.is/H2OGP and archive.is/ZdM8f ) sharing information on budget cuts for HBCUs and minority-serving institutions and a September 2021 congressional mark-up of the Build Back Better Act, observable here appear to be the catalysts for the misinterpretations on social media that the Biden-Harris Administration has made funding cuts to HBCUs.

One post reads, “Biden done cut HBCU funding by almost 40+billion down to 2 billion,” (here) while another says, “Biden’s spending plan cutting the budget at HBCUs by 88% is bullshit.. he does not like black people it’s only obvious at this point !!” (here)

Another user said, “So y’all ain’t gone say nothing about the BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CUTTING HBCU FUNDING!!!!!!!!!!!” (here)

A tweet saying “Joe Biden cut HBCU funding by over a billion..” is visible here .

The claims on social sites have prompted some HBCU leaders to address the misinformation.

Dillard University President Walter Kimbrough shared a Twitter thread on Oct. 5, 2021, on the notion that HBCU funding was slashed by $30 billion (here), saying, “It’s a lie.”

In his thread, he talks about what is given to HBCUs from the federal government through grants and development contracts (here) and how billions in funding were directed to HBCUs during the pandemic with the CARES Act (here) and Biden’s American Rescue Plan (here).

About the “cuts,” he said, “Biden-Harris pledged $70B to HBCUs & other MSIs (see campaign promise here ). “There has never been a proposal that audacious” (here) but that, “since partisan politics is now involved, Biden’s ambitious agenda is being scaled back. So the HBCU funding proposal, along with lots of others, have been revised. This happens all the time, both up and down.” (here)

More on the revision and lowering of the spending proposal here .

In an Oct. 8, 20201 article in Louisiana’s Monroe News-Star (here), Grambling State University President Rick Gallot said, “there’s a misconception that this proposal will lead to a decrease in HBCU funding when, in fact, the bill will lead to additional funding regardless of the outcome.”

Representatives for the White House told Reuters by phone that “the President has not cut funding for HBCUs.” According to a representative, “The President is committed to supporting and helping HBCUs.” (here).

The Biden administration also shared a fact sheet highlighting proposed HBCU funding for FY22. The document is viewable here .

Representatives from the Thurgood Marshall College Fund (TMCF) view the Build Back Better proposal as a “new $2 billion fund for HBCUs and Minority Serving Institutions (MSIs) research infrastructure.”

The organization recognizes the suggested funding as “a brand new pot of money that has not previously existed.”

To Reuters’ questions regarding cuts to HBCU funding, the TMCF representative said, “there has been a decrease based upon the original proposals set forth by the administration, but again, these were not existing programs, but new programs the original figures presented were aspirational goals.”

As of this article’s publication, final 2022 funding allocations for HBCUs are yet to be determined.

The country is waiting for the details of Biden’s proposed budget currently being reconciled by Congress. (More on how Congress decides on a presidential budget request is visible here .)

Reuters reporting on negotiations on Biden’s multi-trillion-dollar spending plan is reviewable here .
VERDICT

Missing Context. Online claims that the Biden Administration cut existing funding for HBCUs are untrue. The Biden administration has made ambitious proposals to increase funding which are currently being negotiated in Congress.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work here .

Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

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Has the "Lift Every Voice" Plan gone into effect yet? Has it even been pushed?
 

VAiz4hustlaz

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BGOL Investor
Funding HBCUs with forgiven loans and grants don't count?

This is what was promised:

The Biden Plan for Black America will:
  • Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps.
  • Expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system.
  • Make far-reaching investments in ending health disparities by race.
  • Strengthen America’s commitment to justice.
  • Make the right to vote and the right to equal protection real for African Americans.
  • Address environmental justice.
 

xxxbishopxxx

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BGOL Investor
This is what was promised:

The Biden Plan for Black America will:
  • Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps.
  • Expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system.
  • Make far-reaching investments in ending health disparities by race.
  • Strengthen America’s commitment to justice.
  • Make the right to vote and the right to equal protection real for African Americans.
  • Address environmental justice.
Expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system

How does giving extra money to HBCU'S not count towards this goal?
 

xxxbishopxxx

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This is what was promised:

The Biden Plan for Black America will:
  • Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps.
  • Expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system.
  • Make far-reaching investments in ending health disparities by race.
  • Strengthen America’s commitment to justice.
  • Make the right to vote and the right to equal protection real for African Americans.
  • Address environmental justice.
Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps.

 

VAiz4hustlaz

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Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps.


SHOW ME executive actions and legislation where this is actually being pushed into effect!
 

xxxbishopxxx

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In other words, you can't produce it.
We had a whole discussion thread about the federal government funding black banks to help promote business and home loans in black communities. This was announced awhile ago.

You really seen to enjoy being functionally retarded when it comes to pushing your agenda.
 
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VAiz4hustlaz

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We had a whole discussion thread about the federal government funding black banks to help promote business and home loans in black communities. This was announced awhile ago.

You really seen to enjoy being functionally retarded when it comes to pushing your agenda.

Yes. Go back and read the thread. Supersav, snark and I dissected the bullshit for what it was.
 

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We had a whole discussion thread about the federal government funding black banks to help promote business and home loans in black communities. This was announced awhile ago.

You really seen to enjoy being functionally retarded when it comes to pushing your agenda.
Black banks and black capitalism doesn't improve the wealth gap. Never has and never will. This shits been pushed by every administration since Nixon. This isn't a new initiative
 

xxxbishopxxx

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Black banks and black capitalism doesn't improve the wealth gap. Never has and never will. This shits been pushed by every administration since Nixon. This isn't a new initiative
The problem as always when it comes to us is this one size fits all solution. I never said this was the only answer. Why can't it be apart of a bigger solution?

I get the impression it always gets thrown out there as the only solution or the main solution.

Am I wrong in that thought process?
 

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The problem as always when it comes to us is this one size fits all solution. I never said this was the only answer. Why can't it be apart of a bigger solution?

I get the impression it always gets thrown out there as the only solution or the main solution.

Am I wrong in that thought process?
It can't be apart of a greater solution because it's capitalism. No other group has made it this way. Individualism doesn't work. There is a reason why it's always given to us as the solution while others get wealthy through government assistance and actual money
 

xxxbishopxxx

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It can't be apart of a greater solution because it's capitalism. No other group has made it this way. Individualism doesn't work. There is a reason why it's always given to us as the solution while others get wealthy through government assistance and actual money
All right I will pause this debate for now. I just ordered the color of money so let me read it before I say anything else.
 

xxxbishopxxx

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It can't be apart of a greater solution because it's capitalism. No other group has made it this way. Individualism doesn't work. There is a reason why it's always given to us as the solution while others get wealthy through government assistance and actual money
With the color of money in my hand, page 279, the author literally says Black Banks need to be apart of a bigger plan to close the wealth gap, even though bringing this up often brings on the scorn of black socialists (paraphrasing).

She also says that the fact that they have not met those economic goals has more to do with the system they are setup to work in, rather than a true failure of the banks themselves (paraphrasing). However, black banks still need to be apart of the bigger conversation and solution.


Assuming you have access to the book and can read exactly what she wrote, would you care to comment?

 
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VAiz4hustlaz

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With the color of money in my hand, page 279, the author literally says Black Banks need to be apart of a bigger plan to close the wealth gap, even though bringing this up often brings on the scorn of black socialists (paraphrasing).

She also says that the fact that they have not met those economic goals has more to do with the system they are setup to work in, than a true failure of the banks themselves (paraphrasing). However, black banks still need to be apart of the bigger conversation and solution.


Assuming you have access to the book and can read exactly what she wrote, would you care to comment?

@VAiz4hustlaz

Is this question directed at Supersav or me?
 

VAiz4hustlaz

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Mostly Supersav. however, if you and him had similar thoughts on black banks in general, I wanted your opinion on this as well.

We probably don’t in that regard. Contrary to what you may think, we have different ideologies.
 

Supersav

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With the color of money in my hand, page 279, the author literally says Black Banks need to be apart of a bigger plan to close the wealth gap, even though bringing this up often brings on the scorn of black socialists (paraphrasing).

She also says that the fact that they have not met those economic goals has more to do with the system they are setup to work in, rather than a true failure of the banks themselves (paraphrasing). However, black banks still need to be apart of the bigger conversation and solution.


Assuming you have access to the book and can read exactly what she wrote, would you care to comment?
So if the system is set up to fail them why do you think they are needed? For morale purposes or symbolism like Obama? Yes it would be great to see black banks but it's not the solution. Where are these black banks getting the capital from? Usually it's larger white banks or corporations
 

xxxbishopxxx

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So if the system is set up to fail them why do you think they are needed? For morale purposes or symbolism like Obama? Yes it would be great to see black banks but it's not the solution. Where are these black banks getting the capital from? Usually it's larger white banks or corporations
That thread was started about black banks getting money from the federal government, not private industry.

The same federal government you are looking to for reperations.

You are the only one saying black banks are the solution. Her and I said the same thing, they should be one part of a bigger solution.

Did you read the book to see why exactly she felt that way or did you just watch some youtube videos and read some tweets?
 

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That thread was started about black banks getting money from the federal government, not private industry.

The same federal government you are looking to for reperations.

You are the only one saying black banks are the solution. Her and I said the same thing, they should be one part of a bigger solution.

Did you read the book to see why exactly she felt that way or did you just watch some youtube videos and read some tweets?
I read her book and the myth of black buying power by Dr Jared.
 

Supersav

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That thread was started about black banks getting money from the federal government, not private industry.

The same federal government you are looking to for reperations.

You are the only one saying black banks are the solution. Her and I said the same thing, they should be one part of a bigger solution.

Did you read the book to see why exactly she felt that way or did you just watch some youtube videos and read some tweets?
Explain how you think black banks will cut the wealth gap that has remained relatively unchanged since 1865?
 
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