CHAOS ON THE WEST SIDE HIGHWAY: Wild pack of motorcycling madmen chase family in SUV,
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Here is what I read...
A biker pulled in front of the car and slowed down, forcing Lien to stop — at which point, as seen on the gang’s video, the bikers stop and a confrontation ensues.
“They take their helmets and they start to dent his car, and apparently his tires are slashed with a knife,” Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said at a press conference Monday.
The panicked dad gunned the engine, striking several bikers — one of whom was seriously injured — as he sped off, with the pack of thugs in hot pursuit, police sources said.
http://nypost.com/2013/09/30/bikers-attack-suv-after-driver-rams-riders/
Since your opinion is clearly different, where did you get YOUR information from?
Here is what I read...
A biker pulled in front of the car and slowed down, forcing Lien to stop — at which point, as seen on the gang’s video, the bikers stop and a confrontation ensues.
“They take their helmets and they start to dent his car, and apparently his tires are slashed with a knife,” Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said at a press conference Monday.
The panicked dad gunned the engine, striking several bikers — one of whom was seriously injured — as he sped off, with the pack of thugs in hot pursuit, police sources said.
http://nypost.com/2013/09/30/bikers-attack-suv-after-driver-rams-riders/
Since your opinion is clearly different, where did you get YOUR information from?
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After he hit the first bike, according to information I've read, things escalated. When he stopped after hitting the bike there wasn't just conversation. Some bikers were banging on his car and his tires got slashed. It's after that happens that the SUV driver freaks out and tries to drive away, hitting many bikes/bikers in the process.
Given that version of events it's not unreasonable for the driver to try and get away from that group of bikers.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...er-bender-west-side-highway-article-1.1471585
"He’s surrounded by about 20 to 30 motorcyclists,” Kelly said. “They take their helmets and they start to dent his car and apparently his tires are slashed there with a knife."
When he hit that first bike..... There were no bikers bothering him at all.They were trying to help the injured rider....he freaked out and ran them over....period.
If I have a gun and am surrounded by a group of people who are simply standing there I can not whip out my gun and start shooting people.
The news is a bitch...They kept using the word gang and showing only the attack at the end and not the hit and run incident.
But the police will which is why charges have been dropped for one already.
The civil suits will be bad for dude...he gon be broke as hell....
Show me where he was being attacked after he hit the first bike...
Also that bike didnt slow down the rider with the camera sped up and the truck did too.
No brake light...
After he hit the first bike, according to information I've read, things escalated. When he stopped after hitting the bike there wasn't just conversation. Some bikers were banging on his car and his tires got slashed. It's after that happens that the SUV driver freaks out and tries to drive away, hitting many bikes/bikers in the process.
Given that version of events it's not unreasonable for the driver to try and get away from that group of bikers.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...er-bender-west-side-highway-article-1.1471585
"He’s surrounded by about 20 to 30 motorcyclists,” Kelly said. “They take their helmets and they start to dent his car and apparently his tires are slashed there with a knife."
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The panicked dad gunned the engine, striking several bikers — one of whom was seriously injured — as he sped off, with the pack of thugs in hot pursuit, police sources said.
I'm looking at tha video just like everyone else but I don't see any of that happening.What minute mark is this happening at???
The panicked dad gunned the engine, striking several bikers — one of whom was seriously injured — as he sped off, with the pack of thugs in hot pursuit, police sources said.
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That is what witnesses are for. So now you expect everything to be on video tape or it didn't happen? I know one thing, if they slashed that man's tires and started denting his car with helmets if that biker that ran over was innocent, he should have gotten the hell out of there when that started happening. If he didn't, he was in on it. The real story will come out eventually but until then, none of us knows what really happened.
I'm looking at tha video just like everyone else but I don't see any of that happening.What minute mark is this happening at???
The panicked dad gunned the engine, striking several bikers — one of whom was seriously injured — as he sped off, with the pack of thugs in hot pursuit, police sources said.
That is what witnesses are for. So now you expect everything to be on video tape or it didn't happen? I know one thing, if they slashed that man's tires and started denting his car with helmets if that biker that ran over was innocent, he should have gotten the hell out of there when that started happening. If he didn't, he was in on it. The real story will come out eventually but until then, none of us knows what really happened.
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http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/da-wont-charge-bike-assault-thug-in-suv-beating/
"Cops have gotten photos of hundreds of license plates from bridge and tunnel cameras and are trying to identify more of the bikers, who first swarmed Lien, his wife and child on the West Side Highway in HarlemSunday about 1:30 p.m.
"But some of the plates turned out to be stolen or belong to different bikes, making it tougher to ID the motorcyclists."
Can one of the bikers tell us about this part of the culture?
http://nypost.com/2013/10/02/da-wont-charge-bike-assault-thug-in-suv-beating/
"Cops have gotten photos of hundreds of license plates from bridge and tunnel cameras and are trying to identify more of the bikers, who first swarmed Lien, his wife and child on the West Side Highway in HarlemSunday about 1:30 p.m.
"But some of the plates turned out to be stolen or belong to different bikes, making it tougher to ID the motorcyclists."
Can one of the bikers tell us about this part of the culture?
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^This
Funny! Not one news article mentioned that the driver of the Range Rover hit & killed the biker BEFORE he ran over the other bike in the video!
Just remember, just about every rider drives a car, not every driver rides a bike. Don't think that the car is going to save you every time. Fuck around and catch one!
^This
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Has this ever been proven yet? So far, no one has said this but you.
Just remember, just about every rider drives a car, not every driver rides a bike. Don't think that the car is going to save you every time. Fuck around and catch one!
Has this ever been proven yet? So far, no one has said this but you.
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Police Chase Motorcycle Biker Brake Checks Cop Car Dash Cam Cops Chasing Motorbike Runs NOT Caught[ /B]
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they shouldve beat the shit out of that cracka for him being a fucking idiot
he was so scared that he nor his bitch couldnt call 911
nah, he knew he ran people over and thats why he didnt make the call
and sorry to my biking fam but if yall was chasing me, i wouldve been fucking yall up out there (hell another reason why that cac was dumb)
at that speed, just swerving at a bike wouldve fucked them up
white people arent that bright...they just get catered too
lmaoooooooo at no cops being around for 7 fucking mins
when does that ever happen?
they shouldve beat the shit out of that cracka for him being a fucking idiot
he was so scared that he nor his bitch couldnt call 911
nah, he knew he ran people over and thats why he didnt make the call
and sorry to my biking fam but if yall was chasing me, i wouldve been fucking yall up out there (hell another reason why that cac was dumb)
at that speed, just swerving at a bike wouldve fucked them up
white people arent that bright...they just get catered too
lmaoooooooo at no cops being around for 7 fucking mins
when does that ever happen?
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whats right is right whats wrong is wrong, i respect bikes on the road and i kind of know some of the things go thru, being that i use to drive 18 wheelers people dart in front of all the time not knowing that you can just take their life in an instant, but old boy on the bike was dead wrong i dont care if he was tryin to slow him down or not, i tell u what though , whether it be a bike or a porshe or lambo etc , if you mob me and try to open my door, this 1911 got 7+1 for yo ass, and the 380 got 7 more.
whats right is right whats wrong is wrong, i respect bikes on the road and i kind of know some of the things go thru, being that i use to drive 18 wheelers people dart in front of all the time not knowing that you can just take their life in an instant, but old boy on the bike was dead wrong i dont care if he was tryin to slow him down or not, i tell u what though , whether it be a bike or a porshe or lambo etc , if you mob me and try to open my door, this 1911 got 7+1 for yo ass, and the 380 got 7 more.
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New York News
Rally held for paralyzed biker in SUV Henry Hudson Parkway chase
Police are releasing new pictures, hoping to find these bikers.
The family of the biker who is in the hospital believes the driver of the SUV is responsible and should pay for what he did.
About 150 people protested in Morningside Heights Wednesday night, demanding justice for Edwin Mieses.
The 32-year-old is paralyzed and in a coma at St. Luke's Hospital after being run over by an SUV Sunday afternoon.
His wife sobbed, finding comfort in the crowd who prayed and held candles.
"A man got ran over. A man got paralyzed. He's in this hospital. He's in a coma. It wasn't because he was trying to hurt anybody, it wasn't because he's an evil person. It was because he tried to extinguish a situation that could have got worse, and did become worse," said Jose, one of Mieses' supporters.
The incident went viral online.
A helmet cam video shows the driver of a Range Rover hitting one biker after the biker allegedly stopped short on the West Side Highway.
Then the SUV was swarmed by a group of bikers.
The SUV driver, Alexian Lien, 33, bowled over the bikers and their motorcycles after the initial accident. The group gave chase until the next stop by the George Washington Bridge ramp, where one biker ripped open the car door, forcing Lien to flee again.
Eventually, the heart stopping chase ended up on 178th Street, where the Range Rover became trapped by traffic with the raging bikers right behind him. The video shows the bikers smashing in the windows, but stops short of the brutal assault that followed.
According to police, Lien was dragged out of the car and beaten in front of his horrified family. He was taken to a hospital where he needed stitches for his face. His wife and 2-year-old were not injured.
Biker Jerome Davis was there.
"Accidents are accidents. If something happens you stop right there. You think and stop. You don't keep reacting on," Davis said.
Organizers collected money for Mieses' family and they hoped to spread the message that biker clubs are not gangs.
Some say this was a low turnout because many were too afraid to attend the rally.
"We couldn't get into Manhattan. All of the bridges are locked down. We got in using the highway. That's why you don't see a lot of bikes out here. The police have it closed down and you cannot get in," said Victor Rodriguez, a biker.
"People are scared. They think this is trap off. They think they'll be harassed. Nobody wants to come down. I'm here because I'm legit, what they can they harass me for?" said Vic Bussa, a biker.
A motorcyclist has been arraigned on charges of reckless driving after prosecutors said he touched off the tense encounter.
Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, N.J., was also charged with unlawful imprisonment. His bail was set at $1,500 cash. His attorney, H. Benjamin Perez, said his client denied all the allegations.
"He will come back to fight this case and clear his name," he said.
A second suspect, Allen Edwards, 42, of Jamaica, Queens, surrendered to police at the 33rd Precinct Tuesday night. It is believed he is the man who punched the rear window of the SUV with his fists at the end of the video.
He had been held and questioned overnight Tuesday, and police initially said he would be charged with reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing. But the office declined to prosecute at this time, pending further investigation of the entire incident.
Prosecutors served notice that they intend to take the case against Cruz to a grand jury, a sign that more serious charges are likely.
Karen Friedman-Agnifilo, the prosecutor overseeing the case, said authorities were trying to build the strongest cases possible.
"Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation, and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes," she said.
Cruz is believed to be the motorcyclist who cut off the Range Rover before he was rear-ended in the crash that started the incident.
Police are still searching for the man who used his helmet to bash the front window of the SUV. Authorities released a photo of the man, who has a flag sticker of "Guyana" on the rear of the motorcycle.
Anyone with information regarding the incident is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS (8477).
New York News
Rally held for paralyzed biker in SUV Henry Hudson Parkway chase
NEW YORK (WABC) -- Scores of bikers gathered at the hospital where one of their own is paralyzed after a violent confrontation and attack on a family that was surrounded and scared for their lives.
Police are releasing new pictures, hoping to find these bikers.
The family of the biker who is in the hospital believes the driver of the SUV is responsible and should pay for what he did.
About 150 people protested in Morningside Heights Wednesday night, demanding justice for Edwin Mieses.
The 32-year-old is paralyzed and in a coma at St. Luke's Hospital after being run over by an SUV Sunday afternoon.
His wife sobbed, finding comfort in the crowd who prayed and held candles.
"A man got ran over. A man got paralyzed. He's in this hospital. He's in a coma. It wasn't because he was trying to hurt anybody, it wasn't because he's an evil person. It was because he tried to extinguish a situation that could have got worse, and did become worse," said Jose, one of Mieses' supporters.
The incident went viral online.
A helmet cam video shows the driver of a Range Rover hitting one biker after the biker allegedly stopped short on the West Side Highway.
Then the SUV was swarmed by a group of bikers.
The SUV driver, Alexian Lien, 33, bowled over the bikers and their motorcycles after the initial accident. The group gave chase until the next stop by the George Washington Bridge ramp, where one biker ripped open the car door, forcing Lien to flee again.
Eventually, the heart stopping chase ended up on 178th Street, where the Range Rover became trapped by traffic with the raging bikers right behind him. The video shows the bikers smashing in the windows, but stops short of the brutal assault that followed.
According to police, Lien was dragged out of the car and beaten in front of his horrified family. He was taken to a hospital where he needed stitches for his face. His wife and 2-year-old were not injured.
Biker Jerome Davis was there.
"Accidents are accidents. If something happens you stop right there. You think and stop. You don't keep reacting on," Davis said.
Organizers collected money for Mieses' family and they hoped to spread the message that biker clubs are not gangs.
Some say this was a low turnout because many were too afraid to attend the rally.
"We couldn't get into Manhattan. All of the bridges are locked down. We got in using the highway. That's why you don't see a lot of bikes out here. The police have it closed down and you cannot get in," said Victor Rodriguez, a biker.
"People are scared. They think this is trap off. They think they'll be harassed. Nobody wants to come down. I'm here because I'm legit, what they can they harass me for?" said Vic Bussa, a biker.
A motorcyclist has been arraigned on charges of reckless driving after prosecutors said he touched off the tense encounter.
Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, N.J., was also charged with unlawful imprisonment. His bail was set at $1,500 cash. His attorney, H. Benjamin Perez, said his client denied all the allegations.
"He will come back to fight this case and clear his name," he said.
A second suspect, Allen Edwards, 42, of Jamaica, Queens, surrendered to police at the 33rd Precinct Tuesday night. It is believed he is the man who punched the rear window of the SUV with his fists at the end of the video.
He had been held and questioned overnight Tuesday, and police initially said he would be charged with reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing. But the office declined to prosecute at this time, pending further investigation of the entire incident.
Prosecutors served notice that they intend to take the case against Cruz to a grand jury, a sign that more serious charges are likely.
Karen Friedman-Agnifilo, the prosecutor overseeing the case, said authorities were trying to build the strongest cases possible.
"Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation, and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes," she said.
Cruz is believed to be the motorcyclist who cut off the Range Rover before he was rear-ended in the crash that started the incident.
Police are still searching for the man who used his helmet to bash the front window of the SUV. Authorities released a photo of the man, who has a flag sticker of "Guyana" on the rear of the motorcycle.
Anyone with information regarding the incident is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS (8477).
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Biker attack video: Who is the real victim?
New York (CNN) -- The video seems clear: an SUV driver hits a biker on Manhattan's West Side, and sets off a violent chain of events. But now, a debate is raging over who should shoulder the blame for this disturbing attack.
Soon after the helmet cam video of the confrontation went viral, sympathies lay with the driver of the Range Rover.
Online commenters seemed to side with him. He was swarmed by a motorbike gang. He had his wife and 2-year-old daughter inside. He did what he had to do to protect them, they said.
But now supporters of the bikers being vilified for the weekend attack are pleading their case.
Charges dropped against biker
One biker cleared in SUV attack
Possible reckless pattern among bikers
Biker: SUV driver 'was a maniac'
They gathered Wednesday night outside the Manhattan hospital where one of the bikers, Edwin Mieses, lies comatose. He was run over by the SUV as the driver tried to escape.
"It is an unfortunate situation on both sides," said Lexie Filpo, who said she was one of the bikers. "I knew that car seemed reckless from the beginning. From when he first jumped on the highway. When things happened people were telling him to stop, to slow down, and he never did."
"The officers, they want to arrest the bikers; they should arrest the driver as well," Filpo said.
Swarmed by bikers
The incident took place on Manhattan's West Side Highway on Sunday. Police said a man driving a Range Rover struck a motorcyclist who had slowed down.
Previous reporting indicated the impact broke the motorcyclist's leg, but New York police Sgt. Lee Jones said Wednesday that the biker sustained only minor injuries.
The driver, Alexian Lien, pulled over and was surrounded by other bikers, part of a group called Hollywood Stuntz. They hit the vehicle and spiked its tires, police said.
The driver pulled away, plowing three more bikers, including the now-comatose Mieses.
The bikers chased him. Once he was stuck in traffic, they cornered the SUV. The video shows one biker using his helmet to smash the driver's side window.
Police said the bikers dragged Lien out of the SUV and beat him. His wife and daughter were unharmed.
Lien was later treated at a local hospital for slashes to his face, and released.
"I would do the exact same thing he did. I mean they threatened his family and started slashing his tires," one New Yorker, who didn't want to give her name, told CNN.
Jerome Davis said he witnessed a part of the confrontation, and described the SUV driver as a "maniac."
"If something happens, you stop right there. It's an accident. You think and stop. You don't keep reacting on," he told CNN's Erin Burnett on Wednesday.
But on CNN's "New Day" Thursday, Davis said, "Two wrongs don't make a right," and said it was clear the SUV driver was afraid.
"If I was in his shoes, I'd be scared," he said.
No charges against driver
Police have not said that they are seeking any charges against Lien.
But they arrested Christopher Cruz, who is seen slowing down in front of the Range Rover before he was bumped.
Cruz, 28, was in court Wednesday facing misdemeanor charges, including reckless driving. Cruz's attorney told reporters that his client is not guilty.
Cruz was to be released after posting $1,500 cash bail and a $15,000 insurance bond. In addition, his license was suspended and he was ordered to surrender his passport.
"His motorcycle was struck and he stood right there," Cruz's attorney H. Benjamin Perez told reporters. "He never assaulted this man. He never tried to assault him in any way. And he does not know any of the other motorcyclists who were involved in this beating."
A second biker, who police arrested, was released Wednesday when authorities determined that he may have been trying to help.
Allen Edwards, 42, originally faced charges of reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing, police said.
But that didn't mean the prosecutors were done.
"Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation, and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes," said Karen Friedman-Agnifilo, the prosecutor who is overseeing the case.
"After we investigate the facts and each person's individual actions, we will know what charges can be supported by the evidence. There is still a tremendous amount of investigation to be done."
The New York Police Department released images and asked for the public's help in identifying and locating suspects.
Police are also looking at a 2011 video that shows a separate case of biker violence. In it, riders appear to surround and antagonize a motorist.
Law enforcement officials told CNN they are examining the footage frame by frame, looking for possible patterns.
Standing vigil
Mieses' family says the real victim of the confrontation is the hospitalized biker.
"All of his ribs are fractured. His lungs are so badly bruised that he's still on a ventilator," Yolanda Santiago, his mother, told CNN affiliate WCBS.
His wife, Dayana, told CNN affiliate WBZ that Mieses got off his bike to help the SUV driver.
"And whatever he did, he got scared, he peeled off, and he paralyzed my husband on the way," she said.
Back at the vigil Wednesday night, the attendees raised almost $400. They hope to raise more at another vigil planned Thursday.
"I believe both of them should be charged because both of them were wrong—the biker and the guy in the car," said Victor Rodriguez.
Biker attack video: Who is the real victim?
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New York (CNN) -- The video seems clear: an SUV driver hits a biker on Manhattan's West Side, and sets off a violent chain of events. But now, a debate is raging over who should shoulder the blame for this disturbing attack.
Soon after the helmet cam video of the confrontation went viral, sympathies lay with the driver of the Range Rover.
Online commenters seemed to side with him. He was swarmed by a motorbike gang. He had his wife and 2-year-old daughter inside. He did what he had to do to protect them, they said.
But now supporters of the bikers being vilified for the weekend attack are pleading their case.
Charges dropped against biker
One biker cleared in SUV attack
Possible reckless pattern among bikers
Biker: SUV driver 'was a maniac'
They gathered Wednesday night outside the Manhattan hospital where one of the bikers, Edwin Mieses, lies comatose. He was run over by the SUV as the driver tried to escape.
"It is an unfortunate situation on both sides," said Lexie Filpo, who said she was one of the bikers. "I knew that car seemed reckless from the beginning. From when he first jumped on the highway. When things happened people were telling him to stop, to slow down, and he never did."
"The officers, they want to arrest the bikers; they should arrest the driver as well," Filpo said.
Swarmed by bikers
The incident took place on Manhattan's West Side Highway on Sunday. Police said a man driving a Range Rover struck a motorcyclist who had slowed down.
Previous reporting indicated the impact broke the motorcyclist's leg, but New York police Sgt. Lee Jones said Wednesday that the biker sustained only minor injuries.
The driver, Alexian Lien, pulled over and was surrounded by other bikers, part of a group called Hollywood Stuntz. They hit the vehicle and spiked its tires, police said.
The driver pulled away, plowing three more bikers, including the now-comatose Mieses.
The bikers chased him. Once he was stuck in traffic, they cornered the SUV. The video shows one biker using his helmet to smash the driver's side window.
Police said the bikers dragged Lien out of the SUV and beat him. His wife and daughter were unharmed.
Lien was later treated at a local hospital for slashes to his face, and released.
"I would do the exact same thing he did. I mean they threatened his family and started slashing his tires," one New Yorker, who didn't want to give her name, told CNN.
Jerome Davis said he witnessed a part of the confrontation, and described the SUV driver as a "maniac."
"If something happens, you stop right there. It's an accident. You think and stop. You don't keep reacting on," he told CNN's Erin Burnett on Wednesday.
But on CNN's "New Day" Thursday, Davis said, "Two wrongs don't make a right," and said it was clear the SUV driver was afraid.
"If I was in his shoes, I'd be scared," he said.
No charges against driver
Police have not said that they are seeking any charges against Lien.
But they arrested Christopher Cruz, who is seen slowing down in front of the Range Rover before he was bumped.
Cruz, 28, was in court Wednesday facing misdemeanor charges, including reckless driving. Cruz's attorney told reporters that his client is not guilty.
Cruz was to be released after posting $1,500 cash bail and a $15,000 insurance bond. In addition, his license was suspended and he was ordered to surrender his passport.
"His motorcycle was struck and he stood right there," Cruz's attorney H. Benjamin Perez told reporters. "He never assaulted this man. He never tried to assault him in any way. And he does not know any of the other motorcyclists who were involved in this beating."
A second biker, who police arrested, was released Wednesday when authorities determined that he may have been trying to help.
Allen Edwards, 42, originally faced charges of reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing, police said.
But that didn't mean the prosecutors were done.
"Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation, and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes," said Karen Friedman-Agnifilo, the prosecutor who is overseeing the case.
"After we investigate the facts and each person's individual actions, we will know what charges can be supported by the evidence. There is still a tremendous amount of investigation to be done."
The New York Police Department released images and asked for the public's help in identifying and locating suspects.
Police are also looking at a 2011 video that shows a separate case of biker violence. In it, riders appear to surround and antagonize a motorist.
Law enforcement officials told CNN they are examining the footage frame by frame, looking for possible patterns.
Standing vigil
Mieses' family says the real victim of the confrontation is the hospitalized biker.
"All of his ribs are fractured. His lungs are so badly bruised that he's still on a ventilator," Yolanda Santiago, his mother, told CNN affiliate WCBS.
His wife, Dayana, told CNN affiliate WBZ that Mieses got off his bike to help the SUV driver.
"And whatever he did, he got scared, he peeled off, and he paralyzed my husband on the way," she said.
Back at the vigil Wednesday night, the attendees raised almost $400. They hope to raise more at another vigil planned Thursday.
"I believe both of them should be charged because both of them were wrong—the biker and the guy in the car," said Victor Rodriguez.
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Fuck the stolen plate shit, cars got stolen plates too that's not a culture thing that's the choice o the individual
Fuck the stolen plate shit, cars got stolen plates too that's not a culture thing that's the choice o the individual
Why is my question not being answered?
From that helmet cam video, you can't see shit (or i can't see shit) as to what is really happening back there. You can't see if they're damaging his car, pulling on the door handle, etc. so again i ask do you guys know something i don't know or didn't see? I'm just curious....
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You ride what, a bicycle? Cause that's how you are talking.
Being a biker isn't being a character, it's being a human being who is acutely aware of the real dangers of the road, it's people in cages who think they are invincible.
Add to the fact that it's a Range Rover SUV, and he really thought he was the shit. FOH with that "he was scared for his family" crap, that's something that sells well with the pussified Americans who love a sob story.
Yeah I kinda think it is. Just like this scenerio:
If it was a group of white Harley boys and the driver was Hispanic or black, the story would be:
MANIAC/HOMICIDAL BLACK/HISPANIC DRIVER STRIKES DEFENSELESS BIKER THEN FLEES
But since they are either young, black, minority, or a combination, then they have to be in a "gang" (FYI some are in CLUBS, no different from Greek fraternities/sororities, AARP, AAA, Junior Achievement, etc). No one calls Harley riders as being part of a gang.
The most intelligent thing you've said in this thread.
You ride what, a bicycle? Cause that's how you are talking.
Being a biker isn't being a character, it's being a human being who is acutely aware of the real dangers of the road, it's people in cages who think they are invincible.
Add to the fact that it's a Range Rover SUV, and he really thought he was the shit. FOH with that "he was scared for his family" crap, that's something that sells well with the pussified Americans who love a sob story.
Yeah I kinda think it is. Just like this scenerio:
If it was a group of white Harley boys and the driver was Hispanic or black, the story would be:
MANIAC/HOMICIDAL BLACK/HISPANIC DRIVER STRIKES DEFENSELESS BIKER THEN FLEES
But since they are either young, black, minority, or a combination, then they have to be in a "gang" (FYI some are in CLUBS, no different from Greek fraternities/sororities, AARP, AAA, Junior Achievement, etc). No one calls Harley riders as being part of a gang.
The most intelligent thing you've said in this thread.
Coolio, the part directed at me is what happens to blacks in general in every aspect of life. That doesn't constitute to hate to me, just ignorance of facts and stereotypes being acted and reported on. The media feeds the notion that blacks are thugs, violent, uneducated, sex crazed, drug addicted, etc. so don't apply it to this situation when it happens on every faction of society on a daily basis.
Also, i disagree with the part about harmless defenseless white biker. If it's some old white man who's a weekend warrior or leisure rider then yeah it's as you said. But if those white bikers look like some sons of anarchy shit, wearing the cut and all, then it won't be no remorse and they will be called a gang.
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Also, i disagree with the part about harmless defenseless white biker. If it's some old white man who's a weekend warrior or leisure rider then yeah it's as you said. But if those white bikers look like some sons of anarchy shit, wearing the cut and all, then it won't be no remorse and they will be called a gang.
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Its bullshit. If there was a dead biker you think that wouldn't be on the news?!?!?!
Its bullshit. If there was a dead biker you think that wouldn't be on the news?!?!?!
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As far as the guy that ran over and is paralyzed in a coma, how does anyone know that he was attempting to help in the situation? He can't talk...he's in a coma.
I'm just sayin.
Had it been me in the SUV I woulda done the same thing. Difference is in Virgina we woulda had a shootout up and down the highway...
As far as the guy that ran over and is paralyzed in a coma, how does anyone know that he was attempting to help in the situation? He can't talk...he's in a coma.
I'm just sayin.
Had it been me in the SUV I woulda done the same thing. Difference is in Virgina we woulda had a shootout up and down the highway...
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Is it true the tires were slashed before he fled and bulldozed up out of there.
Is it true the tires were slashed before he fled and bulldozed up out of there.
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Common sense could've and would've prevented all this shit from happening..yo am out in town with my wife and kid celebrating our anniversary having a good ole time and I come across a group of bikers 20 to 30 deep..shit am pulling over to side and letting them niggus go about there merry way..
For the posters saying he was protecting his self and family my question is how much protecting did he do when first he already traumatized his kid by running over a biker and then ur ass just got beat right in front of your child and wife so again how much protection did he get done that day..the bikers were wrong so is the driver as well...
Common sense could've and would've prevented all this shit from happening..yo am out in town with my wife and kid celebrating our anniversary having a good ole time and I come across a group of bikers 20 to 30 deep..shit am pulling over to side and letting them niggus go about there merry way..
For the posters saying he was protecting his self and family my question is how much protecting did he do when first he already traumatized his kid by running over a biker and then ur ass just got beat right in front of your child and wife so again how much protection did he get done that day..the bikers were wrong so is the driver as well...
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The only people riding around (car/bike)with stolen plates are folks up to no good. So you want folks to believe these bikers with stolen plates were just peaceful human being. You want us to believe that there is some mysterious biker culture that allows them to rule the road. GTFOH
The only people riding around (car/bike)with stolen plates are folks up to no good. So you want folks to believe these bikers with stolen plates were just peaceful human being. You want us to believe that there is some mysterious biker culture that allows them to rule the road. GTFOH
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With your logic. You would bad mouth the people trying to get away in the Auroa movie shooting.
"So you were afraid for your family and decided to get them out of there but you still got shot. So how did you protect your family."
With your logic. You would bad mouth the people trying to get away in the Auroa movie shooting.
"So you were afraid for your family and decided to get them out of there but you still got shot. So how did you protect your family."
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Allegedly. I think that something happened. If he was really a homicidal maniac like the bikers are trying to make him out to be, he wouldn't have stopped when he hit the bike in the beginning of the video.
NO one can answer that. Not even the bikers who were riding with him at the time. ( I got one of the bikers perspective. )
Allegedly. I think that something happened. If he was really a homicidal maniac like the bikers are trying to make him out to be, he wouldn't have stopped when he hit the bike in the beginning of the video.
NO one can answer that. Not even the bikers who were riding with him at the time. ( I got one of the bikers perspective. )
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Yet how does this disqualify my statements
Yet how does this disqualify my statements
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