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[Darrkman]

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Okay...well I'm glad this undercover cover was on the scene to deescalate this situation. I mean what give the biker the right to open the cab drivers door?

Cops show up and a bunch of dudes get outta dodge with a quickness.

 

[bham_brotha]

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I said it in the other thread but if they boxed me in and stopped me on the highway there would have been more than 1 of em run over.

 

[black-n-tan]

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Think about what you just said.
If he was going that fast he couldnt just stop immediately in front of the car.
They were however, going slow enough that he could have stopped
Despite popular belief, A Motorcycle is not some magic machine that just appears out of no where to trick you. Dont be surprised if the driver of the rover get charged as well.
He certainly will be on the hook for millions in the soon to be pending lawsuit.
Was the road rage it worth it ?

Did you see the video? The biker cut him off then put on brakes. How was that SUV supposed to stop? Could YOU have stopped? I could not have stopped. Did you see Beatdownrecord's post? It looks like they do that just to rob drivers but it backfired on them. It does not look like the driver was to blame. They need to sue the guys who decided to attack the driver initially because they were committing a crime. Those bikers are lucky that biker who got run over didn't die, or they would be charged with murder.

 

[TRUFICTION]

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I said it in the other thread but if they boxed me in and stopped me on the highway there would have been more than 1 of em run over.

So ...You think using deadly force was the way out ?
Would it be ok If I excercise my right to use deadly force as well ?

 

[Lattimore]

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Okay...well I'm glad this undercover cover was on the scene to deescalate this situation. I mean what give the biker the right to open the cab drivers door?

But what does this video prove? This incident has absolutely nothing to do with what happened Sunday? Did you watch this, btw? A cabbie hit a bike and they stopped the cabbie. Cabbie didn't panic and the bikers didn't pull him from the cab. The police showed up but the situation wasn't out of control. What was your point for bringing this to everyone's attention?

 

[Lattimore]

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Cops show up and a bunch of dudes get outta dodge with a quickness.

Did you watch the video? Nobody ran from the cops. As a matter of fact what do you expect a police officer to do at an accident scene; pass by and keep going?

 

[TRUFICTION]

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Did you see the video? The biker cut him off then put on brakes. How was that SUV supposed to stop? Could YOU have stopped? I could not have stopped. Did you see Beatdownrecord's post? It looks like they do that just to rob drivers but it backfired on them. It does not look like the driver was to blame. They need to sue the guys who decided to attack the driver initially because they were committing a crime. Those bikers are lucky that biker who got run over didn't die, or they would be charged with murder.

MAn let me tell you something
Im a Club president and a part of much larger network of bikers and people who do more for society through fund raisers and charity work than most people who drive cars everyday ...... which never gets publicized or the air play that this bullshit gets.
If there were a band of bikers doing some shit like that
There are people in the motorcycle community who would put an immediate stop to it and it would never make the news. Now you want o be real about it.
Let me give you the reality of this situation. If...IF those bikers were anything like a Biker Gang... many of which I do know who have national ties and affiliations, The first thing that would happen is that they would get his tags and make a few phone calls. From there Dudes life changes forever with him and his self righteous indignation. He and his family would never live another peaceful day. Trust me dude you have no Idea how this shit really works.
Dude fucked up and the shit escalated. They are all wrong, including Mr. Range Rover....His wallet is about to get real thin real soon for not stopping.

 

[spider705]

Heads up:

One of the bikers will be on cnn in the next hour.

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[samh32]

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But what does this video prove? This incident has absolutely nothing to do with what happened Sunday? Did you watch this, btw? A cabbie hit a bike and they stopped the cabbie. Cabbie didn't panic and the bikers didn't pull him from the cab. The police showed up but the situation wasn't out of control. What was your point for bringing this to everyone's attention?

It proves that when bikers are in numbers, they feel that they can take the law in their own hands. When the cop came and had his weapon drawn, he evened the score. You see they left their comrade on the ground. Come open my door after an accident and we will need an additional "amberlamps".

 

[ViCiouS]

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So ...You think using deadly force was the way out ?
Would it be ok If I excercise my right to use deadly force as well ?

in NYC - there is no other way... especially if the driver felt threatened...

put in me that situation on any street or highway in NYC - we ain't going to have shit to talk about until we're in front of a judge.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

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Yall niggaz still ain't point out where in tha video tha SUV driver was in danger which justified his use of his vehicle as a battering ram???

 

[TRUFICTION]

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Yall niggaz still ain't point out where in tha video tha SUV driver was in danger which justified his use of his vehicle as a battering ram???

They cant and they wont. They are driven by the blind hate for Bikers.

 

[black-n-tan]

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MAn let me tell you something
Im a Club president and a part of much larger network of bikers and people who do more for society through fund raisers and charity work than most people who drive cars everyday ...... which never gets publicized or the air play that this bullshit gets.
If there were a band of bikers doing some shit like that
There are people in the motorcycle community who would put an immediate stop to it and it would never make the news. Now you want o be real about it.
Let me give you the reality of this situation. If...IF those bikers were anything like a Biker Gang... many of which I do know who have national ties and affiliations, The first thing that would happen is that they would get his tags and make a few phone calls. From there Dudes life changes forever with him and his self righteous indignation. He and his family would never live another peaceful day. Trust me dude you have no Idea how this shit really works.
Dude fucked up and the shit escalated. They are all wrong, including Mr. Range Rover....His wallet is about to get real thin real soon for not stopping.

Man, let me tell YOU something.

You are so involved in this "biker thing" that you are starting to believe biker=character. Its kind of like the gun hobbyist thinking gun owner=good guy. Both are incorrect. I ride as well but I quickly learned that there are lots of assholes on bikes. I saw the video, the accident was the biker's fault and any unbiased eyes can see that. Then they, as a group decided to attack the driver, which caused the driver to flee. The cops did not find fault with the driver so the damaged biker will have to take his chances with a civil case, which he will most likely lose, considering his actions and his record. Good to see you back on the board by the way.

 

[TRUFICTION]

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Man, let me tell YOU something.

You are so involved in this "biker thing" that you are starting to believe biker=character. Its kind of like the gun hobbyist thinking gun owner=good guy. Both are incorrect. I ride as well but I quickly learned that there are lots of assholes on bikes. I saw the video, the accident was the biker's fault and any unbiased eyes can see that. Then they, as a group decided to attack the driver, which caused the driver to flee. The cops did not find fault with the driver so the damaged biker will have to take his chances with a civil case, which he will most likely lose, considering his actions and his record. Good to see you back on the board by the way.

First of all I have no stake in this
I hate that the Biker Image has to get another black eye over this
But there is plenty of blame to go around...IM not caught up in anything
But i also am not blind. PLain and simple... Dude panicked and his wife probably had something to do with that too... He will not be able to justify running over a man helping another man who was hit. The Civil suit will be won by the rider and The driver probably will be charged as well pending this investigation.
Yes Im a gun owner = good guy ...so it is true.

Show me where the car was being attacked after the initial hit and Ill shut up..
But I know you cant....I hope the biker on CNN next hour sheds some more light
All this BIker Gang bullshit is just that....People just need to stop letting their hate decide right from wrong. and thanks ...good to be back

 

[Lattimore]

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It proves that when bikers are in numbers, they feel that they can take the law in their own hands. When the cop came and had his weapon drawn, he evened the score. You see they left their comrade on the ground. Come open my door after an accident and we will need an additional "amberlamps".

Please watch the video again... nobody had a gun drawn. And nobody panicked. I still don't see what this proves?

 

[Varis]

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Wonder if they would of tried that with an armored truck

 

[DaAssWatcher]

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Man, let me tell YOU something.

You are so involved in this "biker thing" that you are starting to believe biker=character. Its kind of like the gun hobbyist thinking gun owner=good guy. Both are incorrect. I ride as well but I quickly learned that there are lots of assholes on bikes. I saw the video, the accident was the biker's fault and any unbiased eyes can see that. Then they, as a group decided to attack the driver, which caused the driver to flee. The cops did not find fault with the driver so the damaged biker will have to take his chances with a civil case, which he will most likely lose, considering his actions and his record. Good to see you back on the board by the way.

STOP!!STOP!!
Show exactly where in tha video tha other bikers are attacking tha SUV.
Don't show AFTER he ran some of them over and they caught him tha 1st time.
After tha 1st biker gets hit from behind(I don't care whos fault it is) show me where tha SUV driver was getting attacked.All I see is a bunch of bikers sitting on there bikes looking on then 1 biker is shown walking back towards tha biker who got hit from behind and tha Suv but never makes it halfway because tha SUV starts running motherfuckaz over.

 

[TRUFICTION]

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STOP!!STOP!!
Show exactly where in tha video tha other bikers are attacking tha SUV.
Don't show AFTER he ran some of them over and they caught him tha 1st time.
After tha 1st biker gets hit from behind(I don't care whos fault it is) show me where tha SUV driver was getting attacked.All I see is a bunch of bikers sitting on there bikes looking on then 1 biker is shown walking back towards tha biker who got hit from behind and tha Suv but never makes it halfway because tha SUV starts running motherfuckaz over.

HE cant.....he like the rest are driven by blind and unreasonable hatred
It will all come out in the end

 

[Darrkman]

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HE cant.....he like the rest are driven by blind and unreasonable hatred
It will all come out in the end

LOL...this case got bikers deep in their emotions in here.

 

[spider705]

Both sides are wrong. Driver and biker. Whether or not the bikers did anything, having that many people on bikes all stop and direct all their attention to you and only you, with their reputation (as sons of anarchy, stereotypical as our may be) is intimidating. I know it's wrong, but we can't get upset at this guy for panicking.

Now on CNN it's seeing one of the men had charges dropped by the prosecutors. Apparently he was hitting the window, but may have been trying to assist the driver? So was there an impact of some sort that incapacitated the driver? If so, then in my opinion it makes this even more unfortunate. He's groggy, disoriented, and all he sees is what looks like (to him) a hundred bikers with some banging on his window. He panicked and burnt out. can't fault him for that. You rarely are thinking straight after an impact of some sort that leaves you hurt/unconscious.

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[gene cisco]

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LOL...this case got bikers deep in their emotions in here.

So true. Take the bikes out of the fucking equation. What if 20- 30 people exited their vehicles and surrounded your car because you hit a vehicle in a caravan?

You know at least one is talking shit. With mob mentality, it's probably more.

 

[spider705]

HE cant.....he like the rest are driven by blind and unreasonable hatred
It will all come out in the end

I don't think it's a hatred of bikers.....that's harsh man....

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[Darrkman]

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Its on CNN now.

 

[spider705]

All that build up for nothing.....I'm gonna go play gta

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[TRUFICTION]

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When he hit that first bike..... There were no bikers bothering him at all.They were trying to help the injured rider....he freaked out and ran them over....period.
If I have a gun and am surrounded by a group of people who are simply standing there I can not whip out my gun and start shooting people.
The news is a bitch...They kept using the word gang and showing only the attack at the end and not the hit and run incident.
But the police will which is why charges have been dropped for one already.
The civil suits will be bad for dude...he gon be broke as hell....
Show me where he was being attacked after he hit the first bike...

Also that bike didnt slow down the rider with the camera sped up and the truck did too.
No brake light...

 

[TRUFICTION]

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LOL...this case got bikers deep in their emotions in here.

Damn right it does......

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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bike stunt

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Where's a Range Rover when you need one?

 

[Louis Koo]

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When he hit that first bike..... There were no bikers bothering him at all.They were trying to help the injured rider....he freaked out and ran them over....period.
If I have a gun and am surrounded by a group of people who are simply standing there I can not whip out my gun and start shooting people.
The news is a bitch...They kept using the word gang and showing only the attack at the end and not the hit and run incident.
But the police will which is why charges have been dropped for one already.
The civil suits will be bad for dude...he gon be broke as hell....
Show me where he was being attacked after he hit the first bike...

that's why he was arrested right?

 

[spider705]

When he hit that first bike..... There were no bikers bothering him at all.They were trying to help the injured rider....he freaked out and ran them over....period.
If I have a gun and am surrounded by a group of people who are simply standing there I gan not whip out my gun and start shooting people.
The news is a bitch...They kept using the word gang and showing only the attack at the end and not the hit and run incident.
But the police will which is why charges have been dropped for one already.
The civil suits will be bad for dude...he gon be broke as hell....

Can i ask you a question....

Are you basing what happened solely on that one video, or do you know something we don't know? Because i can't make heads or tails of what's going on back there. i don't see a whole lot going on, but it's do far back that you can't really see if they're damaging his car, pulling on the door, etc.

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[LSN]

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dope shit

bike stunt

 

[DaAssWatcher]

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HE cant.....he like the rest are driven by blind and unreasonable hatred
It will all come out in the end

See tha problem is they gonna say that all tha other bikers were stopped near tha dudes SUV.Notice I said STOPPED and nothing else cause thats all that was going on.
And if thats all tha justification that was needed for him to do what he did,how can these cats cry foul when cacs shoot at a group of Black males that aren't physically assaulting them because they felt threatened because it was more than 1 of them???
Yall sure as hell using tha same damn defense they would use.

 

[BGLR1212000]

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LOL...this case got bikers deep in their emotions in here.

nah its more like dumbass mutherfuckers in this thread...more reason to watch my back when I ride...but even the reactions of some in this thread echo the sentiments of everyday people. got me feelin some kinda way, cuz I don't ride like that, but I could easily have fallen victim to somebody who "woulda ran all them mutherfuckers over".

 

[TRUFICTION]

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See tha problem is they gonna say that all tha other bikers were stopped near tha dudes SUV.Notice I said STOPPED and nothing else cause thats all that was going on.
And if thats all tha justification that was needed for him to do what he did,how can these cats cry foul when cacs shoot at a group of Black males that aren't physically assaulting them because they felt threatened because it was more than 1 of them???
Yall sure as hell using tha same damn defense they would use.

That concept is too easy to understand...

 

[black-n-tan]

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STOP!!STOP!!
Show exactly where in tha video tha other bikers are attacking tha SUV.
Don't show AFTER he ran some of them over and they caught him tha 1st time.
After tha 1st biker gets hit from behind(I don't care whos fault it is) show me where tha SUV driver was getting attacked.All I see is a bunch of bikers sitting on there bikes looking on then 1 biker is shown walking back towards tha biker who got hit from behind and tha Suv but never makes it halfway because tha SUV starts running motherfuckaz over.

HE cant.....he like the rest are driven by blind and unreasonable hatred
It will all come out in the end

I can't show you that because the video doesn't show it. All I can say is what was reported. I did not hear anyone report that the driver was unprovoked in running over that biker either, have you? Also, I ride almost every day so how can I be blinded by hatred??? I just saw a bunch of assholes trying to take over a road, makes no difference to me what they were riding.

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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Official: Biker may have been trying to help SUV driver

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New York (CNN) -- Prosecutors dropped charges Wednesday against one of two men arrested in connection with an attack over the weekend on an SUV driver who was swarmed by bikers on a New York City street.

"We are taking Sunday's crimes extremely seriously, and will proceed with charges in a manner that enables us to build the strongest cases possible," said Karen Friedman-Agnifilo, the prosecutor who is overseeing the case.

Charges against motorcyclist Allen Edwards were dropped. The 42-year-old biker had originally faced charges of reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing, the New York City Police Department said.

But that didn't mean the prosecutors were done.
Biker injured clash with SUV driver
Motorcycles, SUV clash on NYC streets
Police say the driver, identified by a source as Alexian Lien, called 911 on Sunday saying bikers were driving erratically.
Police say the driver, identified by a source as Alexian Lien, called 911 on Sunday saying bikers were driving erratically.

"Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation, and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes," said Friedman-Agnifilo said in a statement. "After we investigate the facts and each person's individual actions, we will know what charges can be supported by the evidence. There is still a tremendous amount of investigation to be done."

The incident has drawn attention because much of it was captured in a video that shows Edwards just before the alleged assault.

Edwards is one of the bikers seen pounding on the windows of a Range Rover after it was forced to stop in traffic following a chase by bikers -- an account confirmed by a police official.

Edwards may have been trying to protect the driver of the SUV who had come under attack, according to one witness, a law enforcement official said.

If so, that may not be obvious in the video, which appears to have been shot by a biker, because it ends before the driver of the SUV is dragged from the vehicle, which also held his wife and 2-year-old daughter.

Edwards, who surrendered to police, is cooperating with authorities, the Manhattan district attorney's office said.

Police have said the SUV driver, identified by a source with knowledge of the incident as businessman Alexian Lien, initially called 911 on Sunday afternoon to report that bikers were driving erratically on the West Side Highway.

Police say Lien sped off after allegedly accidentally hitting one biker, Christopher Cruz, who had moved in front of his SUV and then slowed.

Cruz, 28, was in court Wednesday facing misdemeanor charges, including reckless driving. Cruz's attorney told reporters that his client is not guilty.

He was to be released after posting $1,500 cash bail and a $15,000 insurance bond. In addition, his license was suspended and he was ordered to surrender his passport.

Investigators say Lien told them he feared for his life when bikers surrounded his vehicle, pounding on it and slashing his tires.

He stepped on the gas and hit three more bikers, injuring one of them -- Edwin Mieses -- critically.

"All of his ribs are fractured," Mieses' mother, Yolanda Santiago, told WBZ, "his lungs are so badly bruised that he's still on a ventilator."

Mieses' wife said he had been trying to help the first biker who was initially hit by the SUV when he, too, was hit.

His family has said he is paralyzed and in a coma.

Police said the biker group, called "Hollywood Stuntz," chased the driver, whose flat tires forced him to stop.

Cornered, Lien was beaten, police said. He was treated at a hospital for slashes to his face and released. Neither his wife nor his child was hurt.