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i can't.... If those bikers were car drivers (yes we have vette,camaro and charger clubs around here that do drives and snarl traffic sometimes) and dude plowed them because he was scared, would your argument be the same? Phuck no, because since you don't ride a bike you can't relate, just like crackers can't relate to blacks when it comes to stand your ground. Now, lets go back and apply the law. When you take a motor vehicle and intentionally run over someone(regardless of what your reasoning is) it's a crime..so is leaving the scene of an accident around here and one that caused bodily harm makes it a felony..
You can't see the suv driver breaking the law can you? You know why?


Exactly !
 
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had the suv driver counted to 7 m-i-s-s-i-s-s-i-p-p-i
the bikes would have passed by
and nobody would have nothing to talk about....

The suv driver definitely added fuel to the fire by hitting the biker who slowed down....
Imop, a road rage reaction (nigga moment), which set off a chain reaction...
Clue the bondocks nigga moment...

(a accident on your bike could be your last, a accident in a range rover airbags deploy)

the bikes passed hundreds of riders...including myself...without incident...(why couldnt this be the hells angels, which would make for a much more interesting argument)

This !^^^^^
 
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it's a completely different type of minority/majority situation though. You really shouldn't make the comparison.
when i read comments like
"i hate all bikers" , i think not.
 
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Some of you people are so fucking delusional it's sicknin'.

I saw a whole lot of craziness in that video and I don't see where most of it was justified. Yeah something might have happened before the beginning of the video...but we don't know what. Even when dude stopped and taunted the SUV driver (dumb ass on his part), no one was hurt. If he saw this one biker wanted to play I would have called the cops then. Harm didn't happen until the driver decided to run over people and their combustible engine bikes.

I'm not saying anyone here is in the right (the biker group displayed some serious reckless driving after the running over) not to mention when dude pulled open the door (yes for those of you commenting without watching the video a car door was opened) but dude needs to be charged. The SUV driver I mean. And the dude who short stopped initially. Now if he did that because of something that we don't see in the video, someone need to speak up. But considering the video of these cats driving on the wrong side of the road I don't think anyone is going to believe anything said without concrete evidence.


My point is, stop defending everyone in this piece of shit and hope that the proper people are charged accordingly. Since dude is a business owner at this point at least the hurt dude can sue in civil court.

I swear some of ya'll priorities are fucked up.
 
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Reckless too. He was an asshole too.
There are no "good guys" here. But this went from typical macho-road rage bullshit to a serious incident when the suv driver ran people over.



That's not what the video shows. There was no one opening doors (who has a modern vehicle that doesn't have automatic door locks?) until after he had run over their friends.
Watching the vid again, they were setting up to leave when the SUV took off. If the driver was scared, and he had a right to be even though he was just as much of an instigator, lock your doors and call the cops.
I have my own family and would have avoided this because I don't wrap my masculinity up in driving.

I hate how they're referred to as a "gang".
Yeah cats making it seem like once dude stopped and got hit everyone else jumped off their bikes and started jumping on tha SUV.
Of course they gonna stop and see if tha dude was alright who was on tha bike what they were supposed to take off???
Tha most charged up tha situation would have gotten BEFORE tha suv driver started running motherfuckaz over would have been a heated argument.
At that point tha bikers had no reason to attack tha suv driver physically.
But once he ran people over all bets were off.

I want niggaz to show me exactly what mark of tha video all these people start getting off their bikes to approach tha suv??Only 1 person got off his bike and he didn't even get half way to where tha fallen biker or SUV was at.
Everyone was stopped looking to see what was up then tha SUV starts running motherfuckaz over.

And why a whole bunch of Black people always gotta be a gang???Just cause they on bikes don't mean they 1%ers.
 
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when i read comments like
"i hate all bikers" , i think not.


Bikers are a minority group you agreed to be a part of, you knew what you were signing when you became a biker.

And on the off chance that you DID NOT know what you were signing up for, bikers are a minority group that you can choose NOT to be a part of if you ever came to the conclusion that the life wasn't for you.

I'm not saying that bikers aren't viewed unfairly but the black/bikers, white/car drivers comparison is not a good one, imo.
 
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Bikers are a minority group you agreed to be a part of, you knew what you were signing when you became a biker.

And on the off chance that you DID NOT know what you were signing up for, bikers are a minority group that you can choose NOT to be a part of if you ever came to the conclusion that the life wasn't for you.

I'm not saying that bikers aren't viewed unfairly but the black/bikers, white/car drivers comparison is not a good one, imo.

SO Are you suggesting I not do or stop doing something Legal that I want to do because its unpopular and I may be singled out for it ?
Tell you what ...NO and I will not be set aside as though my life doesnt count because someone else doesnt like it or want me to move about on a vehicle they dont like.
Again why I stay strapped ....
 
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2nd biker surrenders in Henry Hudson Parkway chase; no charges filed
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Eyewitness News

NEW YORK (WABC) -- A motorcyclist has been arraigned on charges of reckless driving after prosecutors said he touched off a tense encounter with the driver of an SUV and a throng of other bikers that ended in a violent confrontation in Manhattan.

Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, N.J., was also charged with unlawful imprisonment. His bail was set at $1,500 cash. His attorney, H. Benjamin Perez, said his client denied all the allegations.

"He will come back to fight this case and clear his name," he said.

A second suspect, Allen Edwards, 42, of Jamaica, Queens, surrendered to police at the 33rd Precinct Tuesday night. It is believed he is the man who punched the rear window of the SUV with his fists at the end of the video.

He had been held and questioned overnight, and police initially said he would be charged with reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing. But the office declined to prosecute at this time, pending further investigation of the entire incident.

Prosecutors served notice that they intend to take the case against Cruz to a grand jury - a sign that more serious charges are likely.

Karen Friedman-Agnifilo, the prosecutor overseeing the case, said authorities were trying to build the strongest cases possible.

"Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation, and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes," she said.

Cruz is believed to be the motorcyclist who cut off the Range Rover before he was rear-ended in the crash that started the incident.

The SUV driver, Alexian Lien, 33, bowled over the bikers and their motorcycles after the initial accidet. While the rest of the group gave chase, one of them recorded the incident. The next stop was by the George Washington Bridge ramp, where one biker ripped open the car door, forcing Lien to flee again.

Eventually, the heart stopping chase ended up on 178th Street, where the Range Rover became trapped by traffic with the raging bikers right behind him. The video shows the bikers smashing in the windows, but stops short of the brutal assault that followed.

According to police, Lien was dragged out of the car and beaten in front of his horrified family. He was taken to a hospital where he needed stitches for his face. His wife and 2-year-old were not injured.

Meanwhile, the mother and wife of another biker left paralyzed are speaking out. Edwin Mieses, 32, suffered broken legs, rib fractures and spine injuries and is paralyzed.

"All his ribs, fractured," mom Yolanda Santiago said. "His lungs are so badly bruised."

Wife Dayana Mieses says her husband was only trying to help the fellow biker who was injured in the initial fender bender.

"Being bent over, helping this guy, is why he got crushed," Dayana Mieses said. ""His aortic valve detached from his heart when the accident happened. Eight out of 10 people don't survive that...but he did. He's a survivor. He's paralyzed from the waist down. His spine was broken in two different places, and there's no hope for that as well."

Mieses said she understands the family in the SUV was scared, but she doesn't believe they were in any danger.

"What they don't know about the bike life is that they're a family, they're not out there to hurt people," she said. "My husband has a heart of gold. He stopped to help the man get up because that's all they do for each other, help each other."

Still, she feels her husband is the victim in this case.

"If he would have stopped after he initially hit that one person and noticed people were trying to help, there was no need for him to take off," she said. "For them to follow him and try to yank him out there car, to take off again and keep on driving and get beat up. If he would have stopped the first time, he would have know they were there to help [Cruz], Because that's what people do. They help each other. Bikers aren't a gang. They're not in a gang."

She says blame lies with Lien, who she says profiled the bikers.

"He's not even charged, and he's the victim," she said. "How is he the victim, because he can walk? How is he the victim, because he can walk his daughter down the aisle. My husband can't do any of that anymore. So I blame him, and he needs to come forward. Because he has a lot of bills to pay. Because for the rest of my life and my husband's life, we're going to be paying bills that, on a job I have, I will not be able to make on my own."

Police are still searching for the man who used his helmet to bash the front window of the SUV. Authorities released a photo of the man, who has a flag sticker of "Guyana" on the rear of the motorcycle.

Anyone with information regarding the incident is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS (8477).
 
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SO Are you suggesting I not do or stop doing something Legal that I want to do because its unpopular and I may be singled out for it ?
Tell you what ...NO and I will not be set aside as though my life doesnt count because someone else doesnt like it or want me to move about on a vehicle they dont like.
Again why I stay strapped ....

Strawman argument and I knew you'd go in that direction.

Whether or not you should be allowed to ride a bike is not what I'm debating.

Your bikers to black people comparison is what I'm debating.

Bikers are a minority group, blacks are a minority. That's where the comparison stops.
 
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I mean...what is the purpose of riding motorcycles down a major highway like this. The cops should have laid down spike strips, and lock all their azzes up.:smh:


Thanks for posting bc this is a pretty good example of restraint. Do you see how the Police Officer keeps a safe distance? Point is- and it's been made- when you are in a car driving aggressively around people on bikes you can kill someone. Let them pass... people who ride don't fuck with cars they ride past them... it's about speed and riding on the edge... pushing it. The bikers had no reason to fuck with the dude driving the car until he gave them one. But, as soon as someone on a bike recognizes a threat (and to a rider it's not hard... years on the road leaves you with an acute sense of awareness) it escalates quickly bc it's life or death.
 
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Is the driver (Lien) being charged with running over the bikers? Although what the bikers did at that point was in poor taste it was his duty to let them leave instead of running them over.
 
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Don't know if this was posted but check what this cac said




Marc Roffman wrote: "Here is some additional information you all might want to read. This is my personal experience with this situation. I made sure to post this on the support site as well. As a trucker that would deliver in north jersey and New York I am familiar with these gangs. I can hopefully clarify a few things. First the initial "accident" is part of a game they play. They ride in a huge group and will operate together to slow down traffic. Next they pick out high end vehicles targeting people with families in them, the targets will usually be white or Asian. Then one of the riders will do a "brake check" and stop suddenly in front of the target vehicle causing a minor bump. In some cases they will just roll back into their target vehicle. They will then mob the vehicle demanding money and or begin attacking the person inside. It is their practice to also slash the tires to prevent the vehicle from escaping. Truckers are well aware of them and are advised not to stop. You can clearly see in the video how they are well practiced in this style of attack. The police in NY have backed off them after an officer ran one down using his vehicle a few months back. The video was all over the net so I advise you to check it out. These "bikers" ride dirt bikes and sport bikes very few of which are street legal and even fewer have plates. They run red lights, stop signs, and have no regard for the law. If you are ever in this situation do not stop, immediately call the police and do whatever you have to to keep them from boxing you in. NEVER leave the scene of an accident if you are not under direct threat!!! Only run if you have no other choice, and again immediately call the police. This is not rare by any means, the only reason this incident got any attention is because of the helmet cam video being posted on the net. If you see anyone in this situation, call the police. Make no mistake confusing these punks with true bikers. You will rarely if ever see a member of these gangs on a Harley. Do not for a minute blame true bikers for this kind of behavior. Bikers like those involved in the 2 million Bikers to DC Rally are American Patriots and would be among the first to come to your aid. A final note, always be aware of motorcycles and share the road. Check your mirrors and don't ride anyone's bumper, motorcycles have a much smaller profile then a car and are harder to see."
 
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Don't know if this was posted but check what this cac said
everything that came outta his mouth(words he typed)smells like shit...bikers are profiled, similar to how blacks are. I didn't say the "plight" was the same, I just said we are PROFILED, by cars and cops. i need to just stay outta this thread.
 
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1 douchebag outta several hundred. we(bikers)get profiled. black person robs a white lady, we get profiled. dudes won't even TRY to see the parallels, because they are on the high horse as usual.
 
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Update On Driver In Range Rover Who Got Beat In Front Of His Wife & Child For Running Over Bikers!

"Reports say the biker, Jay Meezee, is in a coma and is paralyzed from the waist down (Poetic justice). The group has a Facebook page (The bikers) and is calling for some fundraising, claiming to show how badly this biker was injured by the driver of the SUV - whose name is Alexian Lien according to the New York Post - prior to the chase and road rage incident. His wife wants to sue the man in the SUV.


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Edwin E. Mieses, 26, of 17 Bernard Ave., Nov. 28, charged with operating a motor vehicle after license was revoked, illegal possession of a Class D narcotic, operating a motor vehicle with defective equipment and on five outstanding warrants;
Arrested Again in May, Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.
In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show."
[Stick0311]

Man those bikers were breaking every road law known to man during their ride. "We were actually obeying the law" What bullshit! Let me tell you this you fucking bikers. You are giving the Harley Riders a bad name. They should not call you "bikers" they should call you "Thug Riders" Next time you fucking ride in a pack obey the rules of the road. You guys were just acting like you do every day in society, No respect for others or the law!.
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[Bigs]

@Stick0311 Like they do every day on that once a year rally?

Where are all you cunting little just-joined fuckers coming from?
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[Stick0311]

@Bigs Bitch I have been around since Orgish.com fuk you pussy
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@Bigs - Let me guess you are one of the idiots who support that type of thug behavior. Those so called bikers had ZERO respect for the laws of the road nor the other occupants of the road. And those chicken shit little punk bikers demeanor change's the second they are with a group.
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[Bigs]

@Stick0311 Right, and over all that time you managed a whole 11.50 points? Get out.
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[Subvibes]

These TV hosts are idiots.
Gasping, and giving presumptuous info.
At the moment she says "Presumably they stopped to help him..." - The SUV's tires are already getting slashed at this point!
Still, at least Xavier said "That first guy that got hit, he did what's called a brake check."
Magic words, Xavier... Gonna get you and your mates in a whole lotta sheeeiiit now!
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Subvibes (31.06) [Sydney, Australia]
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[foghorn_leghorn]

@Subvibes Idiots indeed.
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foghorn_leghorn (646.00) [New York, United States]
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[jaydenfre]

@Subvibes The video was uploaded and went viral as one video.But they are insinuating people haven't seen everything that they show as if it was two separate videos.They're not stupid,They're intentionally trying to mislead people .
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[foghorn_leghorn]

@jaydenfre I guess that's why the deleted a number of those vids. To hide the bullshit they were doing.
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[jaydenfre]

@foghorn_leghorn Here it is,unless you're talking about another i haven't seen.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=319_1380522846
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@jaydenfre Someone posted a number of their vids before they deleted them on youtube. Showed them riding like morons and riding on the sidewalk.
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[danlilmcl]

These bikers slowed deliberately in front of that guy's vehicle and were fucking with him, and the first asshole got hit. The bikers are to blame for the whole mess.

Fuck these idiot talking heads, and their 'guest' who claims they were driving legally.
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[Fred Quimby]

funny how these liberal pieces of shits defend the thugs

they even got the video from worldstarhiphop
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[cajunmojo]

Fuck you xaxier forbes and everyone of the wanna be gangsta punk bike riders who have zero respect for the laws of the road.
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Well, that was a twisted account of the real story. It appeared to me that the reporter was trying to put the wrong reason for the viral video up first, then backtrack and play on emotion to make the RR driver look like the worse of the two parties involved. The guy on skype is full of shit and a liar, which all of the videos clearly show. This is typical of media whores.
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1 douchebag outta several hundred. we(bikers)get profiled. black person robs a white lady, we get profiled. dudes won't even TRY to see the parallels, because they are on the high horse as usual.

I actually like the gif that ninja crazy lmao
 
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1 douchebag outta several hundred. we(bikers)get profiled. black person robs a white lady, we get profiled. dudes won't even TRY to see the parallels, because they are on the high horse as usual.

A black person being profiled can lead to them being killed or in jail.

What can a biker being profiled lead to and how?
 
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I have read some of these comments and in conclusion I realize that the attitudes that most of you have are the very reasons bikers have to always be on the defensive. The real menice is you with the road rage. As many of you know I have been riding for decades. This is an escalation of unfortunate events. Until you have been damn near killed by a non caring, Bigoted against bikers, simply because they are on a bike and you dont like it hater, then you feel that he is somehow justified in almost killing someone. I have been on rides where there were 100 to 500 bikes and traffic control is extremely important due to the fact that anxious to go nowhere ass haters feel as though somehow a motorcycle rider is trying to take something from them. MOst times when we are that deep there is a police escort to protect us from you. I have damn near been run over more times than I care to remember by arrogance from the driver of a car. Bikers have kids wives and families which we also want to go home too. Someone bumps your car you get out and check the damage. Someone bumps your bike you are on your way to the emergency room. Big difference.
If the man in the car had simply let them just go ahead, this would never have happened. If he was so interested in protecting his family he would have stopped when he saw the commotion that could cause his family to be put in harms way.

I dont condone the actions of anyone in this scenario especially the hit and run driver who was in such a hurry he said fuck those bikes and hit one of them regardless of the bikers foolishness. What would it have cost him to just let them pass ? They did not give a damn about him or his Rover til he hit a bike. I can tell you this much , He got off light. I know cats who would have beat him to death right in front of his family. Tensions are just s high with bikers who want tostay alive. On the other hand if that were Texas there would have been shots fired probably by the driver and the bikers. I said all that top say
Was it worth not letting the pack go on about their business rather than exercise the road rage by hitting one of them then more of them ?.. and with your family in tow ?

To All you biker haters ,,, the next time someone discriminates against you for being black or female or dark or light _____fill in the blank, just remember your attitude as it pertains to bikers and the broad brush you paint us all with.
Youre the reason I stay strapped At all times and especially when I ride.

Unless I missed something in the video, the guy originally hit by the SUV was way to close to the SUV for the driver to see his break lights. He pulled in front of the car and immediately stopped. There was no way for that SUV to stop. Now you are saying that the SUV should have just let the bikes pass but everyone does not know what they are expected to do by bikers. That biker did a really risky move and paid the price for it. The the bikers then decided to punish the driver for their buddy's mistake so the driver took off, as he should have done with his wife and kid in the car. I know one of the bikers got run over but the driver did not put himself in that situation.
 
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A black person being profiled can lead to them being killed or in jail.

What can a biker being profiled lead to and how?
I cant count how many threads on BGOL where folks say they hate bikers. Usually its because some asshat was riding like a maniac. What do people do when they hate bikers? Try to injure them. Where could that leave someone? Dead or in jail. Now, before you go off and try to call me some kind of idiot, I'm saying the profiling is the same. What folks don't realize is bikers get stopped ALL the damn time from cops just fucking with us.
 
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Strawman argument and I knew you'd go in that direction.

Whether or not you should be allowed to ride a bike is not what I'm debating.

Your bikers to black people comparison is what I'm debating.

Bikers are a minority group, blacks are a minority. That's where the comparison stops.

How do you come by the ability to tell me how I should feel about being a target Because Of my legal right to ride a motorcycle ??
Should I go around slapping the shit out of everyone smoking a cigarette in places i happen to be be in ? You can try to diminish this bigotry all you like its not ok.. period. Discrimination is Discrimination...no matter what criteria you decide to apply it.
 
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show me in any of the videos where a crime was commited before the point when the suv plowed the bikers..traffic offenses excluded..

Its not a matter of them doing a crime. Its the fact that when they were on the Van Wyck and GCP in Jamaica, Queens none of these dudes tried to slow down cars or do any shit but ride. Why...cause in that area on that highway doing that shit and trying to check anyone will get you......handled.
 
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Just curious. What is there to understand about the " culture" that would instantly let us non bikers know what " proberly" happened? Also why bikers attempt to slow down cars on purpose

You don't ride so you don't know. It is pointless to try to explain something to non-bikers because all you know is two doors, two bumpers and some airbags.

I have read some of these comments and in conclusion I realize that the attitudes that most of you have are the very reasons bikers have to always be on the defensive. The real menice is you with the road rage. As many of you know I have been riding for decades. This is an escalation of unfortunate events. Until you have been damn near killed by a non caring, Bigoted against bikers, simply because they are on a bike and you dont like it hater, then you feel that he is somehow justified in almost killing someone. I have been on rides where there were 100 to 500 bikes and traffic control is extremely important due to the fact that anxious to go nowhere ass haters feel as though somehow a motorcycle rider is trying to take something from them. MOst times when we are that deep there is a police escort to protect us from you. I have damn near been run over more times than I care to remember by arrogance from the driver of a car. Bikers have kids wives and families which we also want to go home too. Someone bumps your car you get out and check the damage. Someone bumps your bike you are on your way to the emergency room. Big difference.
If the man in the car had simply let them just go ahead, this would never have happened. If he was so interested in protecting his family he would have stopped when he saw the commotion that could cause his family to be put in harms way.

I dont condone the actions of anyone in this scenario especially the hit and run driver who was in such a hurry he said fuck those bikes and hit one of them regardless of the bikers foolishness. What would it have cost him to just let them pass ? They did not give a damn about him or his Rover til he hit a bike. I can tell you this much , He got off light. I know cats who would have beat him to death right in front of his family. Tensions are just s high with bikers who want tostay alive. On the other hand if that were Texas there would have been shots fired probably by the driver and the bikers. I said all that top say
Was it worth not letting the pack go on about their business rather than exercise the road rage by hitting one of them then more of them ?.. and with your family in tow ?

To All you biker haters ,,, the next time someone discriminates against you for being black or female or dark or light _____fill in the blank, just remember your attitude as it pertains to bikers and the broad brush you paint us all with.
Youre the reason I stay strapped At all times and especially when I ride.

Basically it's like this... there are riders, and there are drivers.

Drivers don't know. Tru just explained it elegantly, props to him on that.

Beatdown posted info on what a trucker said it might be. IF this was the case, then the bikers brought it on themselves, and I don't feel so bad. I still feel bad about dude being paralyzed, but that's a dangerous stunt to pull IF that is the case.

But what I see from the comments is that you can instantly recognize a real rider, because he/she knows the who/what/when/where/why/hows of the situation.

And peeps who say they didn't see the SUV bump the bike clearly aren't riders either, because I saw and knew what happened instantly, the first time I saw it.

Bikers protect each other because we know the dangers and often have seen them first-hand (drivers texting/not looking/not caring/just plain careless). ONLY the bad habits get publicized. But when we do rides for Trayvon, juvenile diabetes, sickle cell, etc. you don't see coverage of that at all.

Demonize bikers if you want, but your only as tough as long as you're behind that wheel. Respect us and you will also get respect.
 
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Unless I missed something in the video, the guy originally hit by the SUV was way to close to the SUV for the driver to see his break lights. He pulled in front of the car and immediately stopped. There was no way for that SUV to stop. Now you are saying that the SUV should have just let the bikes pass but everyone does not know what they are expected to do by bikers. That biker did a really risky move and paid the price for it. The the bikers then decided to punish the driver for their buddy's mistake so the driver took off, as he should have done with his wife and kid in the car. I know one of the bikers got run over but the driver did not put himself in that situation.

The thing is...if he stopped suddenly. Then they'd be complaining about that because there were biker behind him as well. Someone back there would have been injured.
 
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Thanks for posting bc this is a pretty good example of restraint. Do you see how the Police Officer keeps a safe distance? Point is- and it's been made- when you are in a car driving aggressively around people on bikes you can kill someone. Let them pass... people who ride don't fuck with cars they ride past them... it's about speed and riding on the edge... pushing it. The bikers had no reason to fuck with the dude driving the car until he gave them one. But, as soon as someone on a bike recognizes a threat (and to a rider it's not hard... years on the road leaves you with an acute sense of awareness) it escalates quickly bc it's life or death.


Okay...well I'm glad this undercover cover was on the scene to deescalate this situation. I mean what give the biker the right to open the cab drivers door?


 
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A black person being profiled can lead to them being killed or in jail.

What can a biker being profiled lead to and how?

This is the ignorance we deal with every single day. :smh::smh::smh:
 
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Unless I missed something in the video, the guy originally hit by the SUV was way to close to the SUV for the driver to see his break lights. He pulled in front of the car and immediately stopped. There was no way for that SUV to stop. Now you are saying that the SUV should have just let the bikes pass but everyone does not know what they are expected to do by bikers. That biker did a really risky move and paid the price for it. The the bikers then decided to punish the driver for their buddy's mistake so the driver took off, as he should have done with his wife and kid in the car. I know one of the bikers got run over but the driver did not put himself in that situation.



Think about what you just said.
If he was going that fast he couldnt just stop immediately in front of the car.
They were however, going slow enough that he could have stopped
Despite popular belief, A Motorcycle is not some magic machine that just appears out of no where to trick you. Dont be surprised if the driver of the rover get charged as well.
He certainly will be on the hook for millions in the soon to be pending lawsuit.
Was the road rage it worth it ?
 
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Okay...well I'm glad this undercover cover was on the scene to deescalate this situation. I mean what give the biker the right to open the cab drivers door?




You just don't understand biker culture. :rolleyes:
 
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You don't ride so you don't know. It is pointless to try to explain something to non-bikers because all you know is two doors, two bumpers and some airbags.



Basically it's like this... there are riders, and there are drivers.

Drivers don't know. Tru just explained it elegantly, props to him on that.

Beatdown posted info on what a trucker said it might be. IF this was the case, then the bikers brought it on themselves, and I don't feel so bad. I still feel bad about dude being paralyzed, but that's a dangerous stunt to pull IF that is the case.

But what I see from the comments is that you can instantly recognize a real rider, because he/she knows the who/what/when/where/why/hows of the situation.

And peeps who say they didn't see the SUV bump the bike clearly aren't riders either, because I saw and knew what happened instantly, the first time I saw it.

Bikers protect each other because we know the dangers and often have seen them first-hand (drivers texting/not looking/not caring/just plain careless). ONLY the bad habits get publicized. But when we do rides for Trayvon, juvenile diabetes, sickle cell, etc. you don't see coverage of that at all.

Demonize bikers if you want, but your only as tough as long as you're behind that wheel. Respect us and you will also get respect.

Well Stated !
 
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Try to injure them.

I find it hard to believe that bikers are profiled by car drivers to the point they people try and injure them on a consistent basis. That has to be a rarity. I could be wrong though.


Now, before you go off and try to call me some kind of idiot, I'm saying the profiling is the same.

Did you mean to say, "I'm not saying the profiling is the same"?

How do you come by the ability to tell me how I should feel about being a target Because Of my legal right to ride a motorcycle ??
Should I go around slapping the shit out of everyone smoking a cigarette in places i happen to be be in ? You can try to diminish this bigotry all you like its not ok.. period. Discrimination is Discrimination...no matter what criteria you decide to apply it.

I'm not trying to diminish anything. It's not the same is all I'm saying.
 
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Don't know if this was posted but check what this cac said
Did that pasty ass cracker talk about tha bikers on Harleys who shoot up casinos,pick random fights with non bikers and extort small businessmen or is this tha "Black sports bike riders are tha only evil ones and white Harley riders are all saints???
Fuck this pussy ass bitch.
 
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im bout done with this sorry ass thread holla
 
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