Cam'ron Explains where things went wrong with Jim Jones on Instagram Live + Max B, Chrissy, Jay Z

[tallblacknyc]

nah it deserved it - the crowd response to this was so hard- almost like any DMX joint in 98 99
I'ono - that was a TOUGH year in music... even a mediocre single from 98 would destroy the club today never mind the charts

I got a feeling Cam is going to be invited to Drink Champs real soon

lol i kno..i'm juss saying people use to go retarded when santana town use to come on..i remember being at a latin club and they played this shit and even the spanish cats was goin nuts off it..shit was funny they playing that reggaeton shit for like 20 mins straight than they threw this shit on and they even had more energy for this than their own music lol.. that's why i said that track got wayyyyyyyyyyyyy to much love

 

[tallblacknyc]

Dipset was shooting porn too! How can people forget the Dipsexxx videos?!? BGOL is slipping!

that was actually big joe's line.. he actually behind like 4 urban mags now to.. so if u wanna go extended family some more yes dipset dealt in porn and currently under the urban mag game

 

[tallblacknyc]

Don't forget those DVDs spawned Smack DVDs which went into Battle Rap.

Dipset had a huge influence on hip hop culture. Pretty much any movement that captures tha major hip hop cities have a world wide effect

crazy thing is when u say smack dvd i'm still mad that these 2 dominican cats from the heights never got their full shine like they was suppose to..they had a public access show in manhattan back in the day called "mad cyphas" that use to come on like 11:30pm on either sunday or monday ..this like 99... these nigs had all these dudes on b4 they was signed or household names hell while most of them were still in highschool.. jae mills and most hated, jae hood, t-rex, murda mook, etc..that's when all them nigs was extra hungry and they use to go in..i mean that show was way ahead of it's time.. in fact that's how a lot of them got noticed and that's the rumor how jae mills got noticed by puff..industry nigs was watching that show on the low low.. it was funny cause eventually them young cats started peeping the comp and it started being group wars like most hated started beefing with these spanish harlem cats, t-rex started beefing with some cats, and so on and so on.. them nigs started spitting extra hot rap beef shit..some nigs found out t-rex info and background and went in on his life, his shorty, his fake past..yo shit was nuts.. it's crazy how that show never got it's credit and how it never elevated past that..that shit was suppose to be smack dvd, that shit was suppose to be all them rap battle concerts they have now.. that shit is a quiet pioneer for mad of these freestyle nigs..lot of them dudes spun off to do shit in the industry off that show..them cats who made that show should be millionaires for real for real

 

[shaddyvillethug]

This nigga just be talking

 

[Tdot_firestarta]

if he releases the pull it video

than this track prob would've got more burn and the live on lenox albulm sells more


than maybe they release vacant lot ft no limit

Man this track was my SHIT

 

[ak_rep]

I peeped it out but I don't remember anybody addressing the clothing line. I thought they made some money off that.

I didn't take any of those dudes seriously outside of Killa. As artists. And Killa Season was the last time for that. I think they maximized the movement because if it were up to me, shit wouldn't have went anywhere.

 

[tallblacknyc]

also people 4get another spinoff from dipset..the slowbucks clothing line..lot of dudes was rocking them shirts at 1 point

 

[tallblacknyc]

they also was 1 of the first groups to really push a lot of their mixtape videos on wssh.. they got a lot of underground music vids on that website where they even kinda made it their main source for video outlet.. jordan tower use to shoot a lot of wssh videos for dipset(that's actually how i first met him)..many other major artist started following suit

 

[Joe Money]

that was actually big joe's line.. he actually behind like 4 urban mags now to.. so if u wanna go extended family some more yes dipset dealt in porn and currently under the urban mag game

Okay. I thought Duke da God was behind Dipsexxx. I'm still trying to find Skyy Black's Hottie Hood Girls scene from one of those DVDs. The links are way past dead on here, of course.

What are the four urban mags that Big Joe is involved with now.

 

[keone]

also people 4get another spinoff from dipset..the slowbucks clothing line..lot of dudes was rocking them shirts at 1 point

until

 

[playahaitian]

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[playahaitian]

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[ViCiouS]

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I know this is going to be comedy

 

[Day_Carver]

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interesting....

 

[tallblacknyc]

Okay. I thought Duke da God was behind Dipsexxx. I'm still trying to find Skyy Black's Hottie Hood Girls scene from one of those DVDs. The links are way past dead on here, of course.

What are the four urban mags that Big Joe is involved with now.

shit i forget which 4 i actually had gotten 2 of the mags for free..got to see if i can find 1 to tell u

 

[Raeeb7]

 

[tallblacknyc]

ouch

 

[PDQ21]

Joey was on point tho that was sum str8 sucker shit Cam pulled on Jimmy

Cam sidestepped all his mistakes but made sure he pointed out Jim shit foh

We like Cam more so we was overlooking all the sucker shit he did in that instagram live shit

 

[PDQ21]

Biggavel use to talk hella shit lmao

 

[Complex]

Joey was on point tho that was sum str8 sucker shit Cam pulled on Jimmy

Cam sidestepped all his mistakes but made sure he pointed out Jim shit foh

We like Cam more so we was overlooking all the sucker shit he did in that instagram live shit

How I feel

That was some snake shit trademarking the name, and leads me to believe he felt some type of way about how big Ballin became

 

[sherminator]

The irony that Jim mad at cam for some of the shit he did to max

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

How I feel

That was some snake shit trademarking the name, and leads me to believe he felt some type of way about how big Ballin became

Was it though?

What I got from his story was Jim was trying to do some underhanded shit by creating a different brand that he would associate with the Diplomats and then break away as opposed to simply creating his own shit and building it straight up. Even calling it Byrd Gang when the Diplomats logo was a bird immediately associates the two brands in fans minds IMO.

I honestly thing both of them did some shady shit overall but when I look at them both and then look at their relationships/history with others Jim Jones is the one who is always falling out or beefing with people he was cool with and then airing it publicly. I don't see that as much from Camron.

Additionally people who would have some knowledge of the situation and know them seem to corroborate Camron's version of events and I don't really see any of the people who were actually around really confirming what Jimmy said.

 

[LSN]

 

[Complex]

Was it though?

What I got from his story was Jim was trying to do some underhanded shit by creating a different brand that he would associate with the Diplomats and then break away as opposed to simply creating his own shit and building it straight up. Even calling it Byrd Gang when the Diplomats logo was a bird immediately associates the two brands in fans minds IMO.

I honestly thing both of them did some shady shit overall but when I look at them both and then look at their relationships/history with others Jim Jones is the one who is always falling out or beefing with people he was cool with and then airing it publicly. I don't see that as much from Camron.

Additionally people who would have some knowledge of the situation and know them seem to corroborate Camron's version of events and I don't really see any of the people who were actually around really confirming what Jimmy said.

How was it underhanded?

It was a part of him building his own brand

Bleek had Get Low under Rocafella. Biggie had Junior Mafia. Tupac had The Outlaws. Eminem had Shady. Game had Blackwallstreet. The Lox had D-Block. It was what you did. Try and create your own shit. That only adds to the group. Did Jay, Suge, Dre, Dee and Wah or Puff get upset?

Everyone knew Jim was Dip Set...so it didn't matter if it was Byrd Gang. Juelz had Skull Gang

Cam said people like JR Writer and Hell Rell went and did their own shit on their own hustle.

 

[Majestic Lion]

Want to know why NYC rap fell off? Look no further than the mentality in those vids.

 

[tallblacknyc]

How was it underhanded?

It was a part of him building his own brand

Bleek had Get Low under Rocafella. Biggie had Junior Mafia. Tupac had The Outlaws. Eminem had Shady. Game had Blackwallstreet. The Lox had D-Block. It was what you did. Try and create your own shit. That only adds to the group. Did Jay, Suge, Dre, Dee and Wah or Puff get upset?

Everyone knew Jim was Dip Set...so it didn't matter if it was Byrd Gang. Juelz had Skull Gang

Cam said people like JR Writer and Hell Rell went and did their own shit on their own hustle.

look at max b vid and remember what cam said..mx said jim was jealous cause he was more talented than him, cam said jim never released any of his artist under him and literally kept them around to big up his name and situation..are u getting the hint that jim was for self and only cares about jim no matter the cost.. all that fake crying talking about he was on americas most wanted and he was on trials for shootings was horseshit.. jim was spliff star but said fuck this sidekick shit i want to be the man now aka the starscream effect..that's the real situation..not saying cam never did no funny shit but at the end of the day dipset got pushed, juelz came out with a few albulms, and others got pushed and released under cam can u say the same for jim??? stack, max b, sen city, two, etc can go on who never got released

 

[playahaitian]

look at max b vid and remember what cam said..mx said jim was jealous cause he was more talented than him, cam said jim never released any of his artist under him and literally kept them around to big up his name and situation..are u getting the hint that jim was for self and only cares about jim no matter the cost.. all that fake crying talking about he was on americas most wanted and he was on trials for shootings was horseshit.. jim was spliff star but said fuck this sidekick shit i want to be the man now aka the starscream effect..that's the real situation..not saying cam never did no funny shit but at the end of the day dipset got pushed, juelz came out with a few albulms, and others got pushed and released under cam can u say the same for jim??? stack, max b, sen city, two, etc can go on who never got released

Only thing I hold against Cam?

copyrighting Byrd Gang.

knowing full well it was for Jim...yes he ASKED Jim what he was doing with it.

But if that is your man, your brother?

You don't do that.

 

[Complex]

look at max b vid and remember what cam said..mx said jim was jealous cause he was more talented than him, cam said jim never released any of his artist under him and literally kept them around to big up his name and situation..are u getting the hint that jim was for self and only cares about jim no matter the cost.. all that fake crying talking about he was on americas most wanted and he was on trials for shootings was horseshit.. jim was spliff star but said fuck this sidekick shit i want to be the man now aka the starscream effect..that's the real situation..not saying cam never did no funny shit but at the end of the day dipset got pushed, juelz came out with a few albulms, and others got pushed and released under cam can u say the same for jim??? stack, max b, sen city, two, etc can go on who never got released

I think it's a tough situation if you're under any rapper. Look at French. Look how long it took Chinx to come out. There's no guarantee that Max would have come out under French.

That's why you need to get yourself hot and build your own brand.

 

[Complex]

Want to know why NYC rap fell off? Look no further than the mentality in those vids.

So what about Gucci and Waka
Baby and everybody

 

[Majestic Lion]

So what about Gucci and Waka
Baby and everybody

Nature doesn't like vacuums.

 

[PDQ21]

Only thing I hold against Cam?

copyrighting Byrd Gang.

knowing full well it was for Jim...yes he ASKED Jim what he was doing with it.

But if that is your man, your brother?

You don't do that.

U don't make those Tricky Ricky shirts if that is mans either

 

[gene cisco]

look at max b vid and remember what cam said..mx said jim was jealous cause he was more talented than him, cam said jim never released any of his artist under him and literally kept them around to big up his name and situation..are u getting the hint that jim was for self and only cares about jim no matter the cost.. all that fake crying talking about he was on americas most wanted and he was on trials for shootings was horseshit.. jim was spliff star but said fuck this sidekick shit i want to be the man now aka the starscream effect..that's the real situation..not saying cam never did no funny shit but at the end of the day dipset got pushed, juelz came out with a few albulms, and others got pushed and released under cam can u say the same for jim??? stack, max b, sen city, two, etc can go on who never got released

You've been breaking shit down...damn...

 

[PDQ21]

I think it's a tough situation if you're under any rapper. Look at French. Look how long it took Chinx to come out. There's no guarantee that Max would have come out under French.

That's why you need to get yourself hot and build your own brand.

Max wouldn't have came out under French regardless MAX was the star French was the lacky

 

[Majestic Lion]

Yo..."the starscream effect" is the best sh*t I've read all day lmaooo

 

[playahaitian]

U don't make those Tricky Ricky shirts if that is mans either

Damn right

but on that Cam is f*cking clown and I got boys like that...just don't know when to LET IT GO...they gotta get those jokes off...

he wrong for that too...

but I feel like the business betrayal is worse.