Bulls fans assemble

[Eclipse99]

Series was embarrassing. IMO the only people doing work were Derrick(at times) and Jimmy. Jimmy brought his lunch pail and did his job. Avged 20 a game, 6 boards, 2 and half steals, and made Bron work for it. Everybody else... You cant blow it up like football, but Nico, Snell, Dougie, Etwan are going to have show what their worth. Noah is done. I like him, my fav Bull personality wise, but hes done. Dunleavy is Dunleavy, Pau was a pleasant surprise but too old. This team is about to get bad before they compete again.

Yea the Bulls that's my team and D-Rose my favorite player but I think this was the year for them to win it. I'm not sure they will have the same team next year. Hell, they are talking about getting rid of Thibs even if they had won the chanmpionship lol which is crazy...

. You can't address everything but I think they really need another solid guard. Whether it's a Pg or a 2, they need another good guard that can play on both ends. Like one dude said, Kirk is done. Brooks is solid but if he ain't scoring he ain't doing shit, Snell is okay but he's a spot up shooter at best. ...rose and butler has the "potential" to be the best backcourt in the league but another solid guard that can really give both of them a break or even play with them on the court at the same time is a must for the Bulls in my opinion. If they are trying to really push for a championship.

 

[cnc]

Series was embarrassing. IMO the only people doing work were Derrick(at times) and Jimmy. Jimmy brought his lunch pail and did his job. Avged 20 a game, 6 boards, 2 and half steals, and made Bron work for it. Everybody else... You cant blow it up like football, but Nico, Snell, Dougie, Etwan are going to have show what their worth. Noah is done. I like him, my fav Bull personality wise, but hes done. Dunleavy is Dunleavy, Pau was a pleasant surprise but too old. This team is about to get bad before they compete again.

Two of the four on your list never saw any meaningful minutes on the court in the series while Kirk Hinrich got significantly more burn that he ever should have.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

Two of the four on your list never saw any meaningful minutes on the court in the series while Kirk Hinrich got significantly more burn that he ever should have.

Nico and Snell wernt ready for prime time. So we still dont know if either can be a good/great player to build around. So thats why I say they need to prove themselves next season because shits going to look allot different after next year and some tough choices are going to have to be made.

 

[c_commander]

Nico and Snell wernt ready for prime time. So we still dont know if either can be a good/great player to build around. So thats why I say they need to prove themselves next season because shits going to look allot different after next year and some tough choices are going to have to be made.

At this point I'd rather have Snell on the floor than Hinrich who isn't even that good of a defender anymore. I thought that Thibs was gonna start Mirotic with Noah in Game 5 instead of Gibson and give the team a bit more offensive punch. These offensive lulls are too much and too frequent and the way the team was up and down was somewhat reminiscent of what happened with Skiles.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

I'm just glad the Thibs era is over. Thibs is a great defensive coach, but I don't think he should be the head guy. I think we'll trade him for a 1st round pick or two second rounders on draft night.

I don't know anything about this Hoiberg guy they're bringing in, I just hope he brings something new to the table.

I need to see some real offensive development. I want to see some growth between Snell, McDermott and Niko. Plus whoever they draft which I'm assuming will be a point guard.

Snell needs to do the same thing Butler did last summer to improve his game. I think he could be a great role player, he just needs to be more consistent and confident.

Dunleavy's probably gone. They'll probably use the mini-MLE on another vet guard. I'm still hoping they bring Nate back.

I think Noah's done. He regressed because of the injuries and I don't think he'll be All-Star caliber again. I love the guy, but if we can get somebody for him and Taj, I think I would jump on it.

 

[Biggillanoyz]

Unfortunately for us Bulls fans I think we are trapped in an era like that of Jordan's when compared to LeBron’s. Think about Jordan’s Bulls keep a gang of teams and hall of famers (Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Miller, Wilkins, Ewing, Drexler, Etc., Etc.) from getting rings during his run. In fact most of those in the East never saw the conference finals. LeBron is headed to is fifth straight conference finals, while the Bulls haven't been there since 1998. Bulls fans just need to except the fact that Rose, Noah, Butler, etc. will remain and possibly retire ring less; as long as LeBron is active in the East. Them niggas are bound to be footnotes of destitution like the above mentioned while on TNT after retirement screwfaced when championships are mentioned (see Barkley ) I really hope that I'm wrong; but I'm not.

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

Bulls fans just need to except the fact that Rose, Noah, Butler, etc. will remain and possibly retire ring less; Them niggas are bound to be footnotes of destitution like the above mentioned while on TNT after retirement screwfaced when championships are mentioned (see Barkley )

That little "TNT" thing u added at the end made it obvious that youre HOPING that they dont win a title. Youre not a Bulls fan, youre just some nigga looking at TV hating on Brothas who are having great careers. SO stop it!!



Their futures.....

11 out of the last 16 titles were won by west coast teams...not LBJ teams (who just won 2 titles in 11 years). What if Rose, Noah and Butler aint playing with the Bulls in the future...and are instead playing out west ..or out East for a REAL contender?

The MJ comparison was just too silly. Im not even gonna bother with that one.

As for the BUlls...If we did advance to the Finals....and faced a team like GS...we might've gotten swept. My point? There were many things that factored into what the Bulls did and didnt accomplish over the last 5 years. Anyone making it seem as if the Bulls one and only problem over the last 5 years was LBJ is someone who is just a Lebron dick hugger, and not an observer of the game of basketball.

put everybody on the block

I think everyone wil be on the block except Rose, Butler and Nikola.

Noah still got something left...but i think he's past his prime and his contract is almost up; So is Taj (who has been on the block before).

Gasol will probably play out his contract...which has 1 year left. But he wont be back after that. He might retire or try to hustle a desperate team via exploiting that new TV deal. If he can. I dont understand the 2016 2017 max contract shit.

Tom has issues..but i stil like him. More than likely he's out of here tho. But it'll be a while before the move is made. Bulls aint gonna just fire him off top when he still got millions thats owed to him. Crazy as it may sound, I think Tom's next location will pay him 4+ mill more than what the Bulls gave him.


Imho..theyll trade Tom Tibby. Like the Celtics did with Doc.
Hopefully to a shit team.....get a draft pick or two...then maybe trade one of them high draft picks for a young vet.

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Thibbs is gone. No need to discuss why. Bulls fans in this thread knows what did Thibbs in. I like him, but we reached the ceiling. I think the Bulls should package not only Thibbs but Noah as well to the Magic. Thibbs will have young players to develop. Noah will be close to where he played his college ball at and he would help move the young Magic team along in the locker room. In return the Bulls get a draft picks and Tobias Harris signs with the Bulls. Win, win for both teams.

The next coach must have an offensive attacking game-plan. I want to see more of an uptempo style. Rumors are Fred Hoiberg. I hope the Bulls take a serious look at Mark Jackson.

As others have said the only three I am not trading is Rose, Butler, or Mirotic. I think Gasol stays more than likely as well.

Taj I would take a offer on. He reached his ceiling. He would be an asset on a team with good young bigs.

If Snell, McDermott and E. Moore return I want to see them develop as well.

Hinrich needs to bounce. He is most definitely done.

Dunleavey needs to bounce. Decent shooter with size but he would not start for any of the other 29 teams.

Nazr will probably retire and get a job in the organization.

I expect the Bulls to draft a combo guard in this year draft.

This off season will be interesting that is for sure.

See ya'll in October. Props to whomever becomes the 2014/2015 Champs.

BULLS4LYFE​

 

[Blaq]

Two of the four on your list never saw any meaningful minutes on the court in the series while Kirk Hinrich got significantly more burn that he ever should have.

I was hoping to wake up to the Bulls firing Tibbs, but it makes more sense to trade him. Moore should've gotten Kirk's minutes, period. He and Noah gave us absolutely nothing.

I hope this loss burns over the offseason for all involved, but I doubt it. They didn't appear to be interested at all. All we have to do is look at game 4 as pivotal as it was and how it turned out. They GAVE that game away. I don't see how you blow game 4 and perform in games 5 & 6 the way we did. I've been absolutely disgusted since the beginning of the 4th period of that game.

I tried to imagine if this was a Jordan-led team. It wouldn't have happened, but I couldn't even imagine his reaction. These kats don't really want to win. This series proved it. There's no way they should've lost this series. Cavs fans know this, but would never admit.

With both the Bulls and Wizards out, even a banged up Cavs may beat ATL. Just not sold on them for some reason.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

Just not sold on them for some reason.

Because Bron is the only special player on that team. That same team without Bron doesnt win more than 50 games and is out in the second rd. Bron is so great as a player he singlehandedly can will his team to the finals. The way he came out in game 5 and set the table is what stars do. Its what Micheal did once upon a time, and the lack of that type of person, not even player. Just that attitude is why the series ended how it ended. Quiet as kept... Had Melo come to the Chi the Bulls win in 5. Can you imagine Melo just letting Bron score and not wanting to return the favor??? Melo was so good of a goddamn match for this fucking team man, it made no basketball sense not to come. Ill never be mad at another man for his choices. But Melo cheated the NBA by not signing in Chicago. Shit wouldve epic for years. That shit stings when I think about it.

 

[Eclipse99]

Because Bron is the only special player on that team. That same team without Bron doesnt win more than 50 games and is out in the second rd. Bron is so great as a player he singlehandedly can will his team to the finals. The way he came out in game 5 and set the table is what stars do. Its what Micheal did once upon a time, and the lack of that type of person, not even player. Just that attitude is why the series ended how it ended. Quiet as kept... Had Melo come to the Chi the Bulls win in 5. Can you imagine Melo just letting Bron score and not wanting to return the favor??? Melo was so good of a goddamn match for this fucking team man, it made no basketball sense not to come. Ill never be mad at another man for his choices. But Melo cheated the NBA by not signing in Chicago. Shit wouldve epic for years. That shit stings when I think about it.

Man never really thought about that in regard to Melo. Hell yea man, he should of came to Chicago. Rose, Butler, and Melo....

 

[MongoSlade23]

Man never really thought about that in regard to Melo. Hell yea man, he should of came to Chicago. Rose, Butler, and Melo....

That's because with Melo there is no Rose and Butler, at least not as 20pt scorers. And Melo's presence would kill Butler's attitude on defense probably the whole team.

 

[monsterman]

I was hoping to wake up to the Bulls firing Tibbs, but it makes more sense to trade him. Moore should've gotten Kirk's minutes, period. He and Noah gave us absolutely nothing.

I hope this loss burns over the offseason for all involved, but I doubt it. They didn't appear to be interested at all. All we have to do is look at game 4 as pivotal as it was and how it turned out. They GAVE that game away. I don't see how you blow game 4 and perform in games 5 & 6 the way we did. I've been absolutely disgusted since the beginning of the 4th period of that game.

I tried to imagine if this was a Jordan-led team. It wouldn't have happened, but I couldn't even imagine his reaction. These kats don't really want to win. This series proved it. There's no way they should've lost this series. Cavs fans know this, but would never admit.

With both the Bulls and Wizards out, even a banged up Cavs may beat ATL. Just not sold on them for some reason.

You were right the whole time about Thibs.
He wasn't right for this team. Don't think he's right for any team. He'll get you into the playoffs; but after that, you might as well start planning your next fishing trip. Didn't see the 2nd half of the game but I'm guessing the Bulls imploded and honestly........I'm not shocked.

 

[Blaq]

Because Bron is the only special player on that team. That same team without Bron doesnt win more than 50 games and is out in the second rd. Bron is so great as a player he singlehandedly can will his team to the finals. The way he came out in game 5 and set the table is what stars do. Its what Micheal did once upon a time, and the lack of that type of person, not even player. Just that attitude is why the series ended how it ended. Quiet as kept... Had Melo come to the Chi the Bulls win in 5. Can you imagine Melo just letting Bron score and not wanting to return the favor??? Melo was so good of a goddamn match for this fucking team man, it made no basketball sense not to come. Ill never be mad at another man for his choices. But Melo cheated the NBA by not signing in Chicago. Shit wouldve epic for years. That shit stings when I think about it.

I meant that I'm not sold on ATL. Lebron is a good player, but the Bulls gave them this series. I just don't give him credit for us losing this. Jordan took the series from Utah. We handed it to them. Lebron was very good in a couple of games.

Jimmy did a great job on Lebron. Last year Leonard did a great job on Lebron. Jordan was never contained in the playoffs, period.

We should've won this series, but I think ultimately the Bulls stopped playing for Tibbs, we had no true leader, and no heart this year.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

3rd rebuild in the Paxson era

 

[Blaq]

You were right the whole time about Thibs.
He wasn't right for this team. Don't think he's right for any team. He'll get you into the playoffs; but after that, you might as well start planning your next fishing trip. Didn't see the 2nd half of the game but I'm guessing the Bulls imploded and honestly........I'm not shocked.

Man, game 4 was the worst Bulls loss I've seen in Bulls history (considering tone of the game and how pivotal of a game it was).

I forget the kat that used to hate on Kobe, but I told him Tibbs first year I didn't like dude for our team. You could see that he was stubborn back then. We need to get rid of him asap, getting something back. There are people sold on him.

We didn't get to see what any of our bench players could do on the floor until injuries. I get pissed every time I think about player management over the years under Tibbs.

 

[Blaq]

3rd rebuild in the Paxson era

We need to get rid of Paxson and Gar Foreman, too. I actually like Reinsdorf, but his management (VP, GM's) have always been garbage.

 

[Blaq]

You were right the whole time about Thibs.
He wasn't right for this team. Don't think he's right for any team. He'll get you into the playoffs; but after that, you might as well start planning your next fishing trip. Didn't see the 2nd half of the game but I'm guessing the Bulls imploded and honestly........I'm not shocked.

Check this old article out. I came across this a few days ago. It could've been from this year, or any year under Tibbs.

What adjustments will Tom Thibodeau make? None. That's a problem

http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-b...will-tom-thibodeau-make-none-thats-a-problem/

 

[Mt. Yukon]

We need to get rid of Paxson and Gar Foreman, too. I actually like Reinsdorf, but his management (VP, GM's) have always been garbage.

Gar-Pax sound like asshole whenever I hear them interviewed. But they put together a good team most years so I have no issue. My issue is with Thibs alone. The same issues I thought would improve in 2010 against Miami never got better and his mismanagement is the reason this team under performs in the playoffs IMO.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

3rd rebuild in the Paxson era

With nothing to show for it

Get his ass outta there

 

[RoadRage]

I meant that I'm not sold on ATL. Lebron is a good player, but the Bulls gave them this series. I just don't give him credit for us losing this. Jordan took the series from Utah. We handed it to them. Lebron was very good in a couple of games.

Jimmy did a great job on Lebron. Last year Leonard did a great job on Lebron. Jordan was never contained in the playoffs, period.

We should've won this series, but I think ultimately the Bulls stopped playing for Tibbs, we had no true leader, and no heart this year.

As long as you guys keep thinking like this yall will keep losing to LeBron, one thing you must understand is that LeBron knows how to dominate with out scoring, so while you sit back and praise Butler defense on LeBron, what you fail to see was all the help he was given on defending James.. This is what killed them because it freed up everyone else. .If Butler was so good he wouldn't need so much help.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

As long as you guys keep thinking like this yall will keep losing to LeBron, one thing you must understand is that LeBron knows how to dominate with out scoring, so while you sit back and praise Butler defense on LeBron, what you fail to see was all the help he was given on defending James.. This is what killed them because it freed up everyone else. .If Butler was so good he wouldn't need so much help.

Bro... I mean this with the most man to man respect possible on an online forum... But you gotta take Bron dick out of your mouth. It'sone thing to have a fav player. But all you do Iis ride his nuts. It's like you have a Bron batsignal or some shit that tells you when his name is typed. This is a Bulls thread, yet you found your way here, why??? Not that you don't have a right to be here. But man this thread ain't about big uppin Bron although I give the man his props. It's for Bulls fans to talk about the NBA with other Bulls fans.

 

[RoadRage]

Bro... I mean this with the most man to man respect possible on an online forum... But you gotta take Bron dick out of your mouth. It'sone thing to have a fav player. But all you do Iis ride his nuts. It's like you have a Bron batsignal or some shit that tells you when his name is typed. This is a Bulls thread, yet you found your way here, why??? Not that you don't have a right to be here. But man this thread ain't about big uppin Bron although I give the man his props. It's for Bulls fans to talk about the NBA with other Bulls fans.

No my point was to show that the Bulls must change their approach to playing against a LeBron run team.. Instead of trying to find ways to defend against him and making excuses like they gave the series away, they should focus more on their offense and ways to neutralize his scoring..

Just remember this I am a LeBron supporter but I am also a fan of the game, and when I talk here I am talking serious on how and what the Bulls should do, not as a LeBron supporter..

 

[BDR]

With nothing to show for it

Get his ass outta there

Seems like Jerry Reinsdorf doing his best impression of James Dolan

 

[shaddyvillethug]

2 division titles

 

[ballscout1]

Bulls were never as good as their fans wanted to believe they were.

Thibs defensive strategy and hustle mentality made them better than they were but he didn't take them any further than Vinnie did.

The Bulls disbanded the bench mob to bring in players just like them ,not and upgrade but lateral moves. Get rid of Robinson and have Brooks. Get rid of Korver for Dunleavy.

The bulls had hustle but lacked real talent.

I have said since day one that the bulls would never win a championship with Rose at point guard. He is a hooper but he isn't a point guard and can't run a team efficiently. He has score first mentality and has since he was at Beasley.

OKC won't win with Westbook at point either.

They can fire Thibs they can unsign or trade their entire roster but until they get rid of Paxxon they won't win shit

Bucks are on the come up, Indiana will be back knocking Toronto is coming up, Detroit will come up The bulls won't be able to rely on a weak division in a weak conference to inflate their record with hustle.

 

[c_commander]

With nothing to show for it

Get his ass outta there

I don't think that a rebuild is in order. He had no business resigning Hinrich who he had to trade a 1rst rounder to another team with no compensation to get rid of him the 1rst time but most of the moves made have worked. And his rebuilds have gone a hell of a lot better than Krause's.

 

[Big Tex]

I don't think that a rebuild is in order. He had no business resigning Hinrich who he had to trade a 1rst rounder to another team with no compensation to get rid of him the 1rst time but most of the moves made have worked. And his rebuilds have gone a hell of a lot better than Krause's.

LeBron just beat the Bulls in 6 games with Shumpert, a whiteboy from Australia, and only having JR Smith for 4 games.

Blow that shit up and start over. LeBron will never have less help than he had this series.

 

[Mt. Yukon]

Bulls were never as good as their fans wanted to believe they were.

Thibs defensive strategy and hustle mentality made them better than they were but he didn't take them any further than Vinnie did.

The Bulls disbanded the bench mob to bring in players just like them ,not and upgrade but lateral moves. Get rid of Robinson and have Brooks. Get rid of Korver for Dunleavy.

The bulls had hustle but lacked real talent.

I have said since day one that the bulls would never win a championship with Rose at point guard. He is a hooper but he isn't a point guard and can't run a team efficiently. He has score first mentality and has since he was at Beasley.

OKC won't win with Westbook at point either.

They can fire Thibs they can unsign or trade their entire roster but until they get rid of Paxxon they won't win shit

Bucks are on the come up, Indiana will be back knocking Toronto is coming up, Detroit will come up The bulls won't be able to rely on a weak division in a weak conference to inflate their record with hustle.

No dis, but you said allot of stuff for a person who obviously didnt really follow the squad. Nate was on a 1 year deal and they couldnt afford to resign him. So they went after Augustin, same thing, then they went after Arron. Kyle made 5 mil a season and how the Bulls used him they didnt see the point of having him make that much when they basically spot him up, and ran 1 play for him. The BUlls went into salary cap hell with Derrricks max Deal, Noahs 10 plus mil a year, Boozs 15, and Tajs 7. They had no money left to bring in "Real talent" so they got the best available willing to come play for the MLE and I think they did a good job at doing it, and drafting quality pieces.

As far as your analysis of Derrick... Nothing profound there. Its the same thing every "expert" has been saying since Iverson. I dont think the statement in itself is true, just that I dont think you can win with a scoring PG who cant shoot from distance, and a clear number 2 with a different skill set. I think Derrick would work with Klay Thompson, but Jimmys game on offense is much too similar.

And bruh... Go back and read the posts in this thread. Most Bull fans wernt buying the hype because they never had that elite player to take over a game. We saw against Miami the first time how easily it is to take away a slashing PG, and they were going to need help to get over the hump. Eventually help came, but Thibs never did anything different offensively so it looked like the same team over and over. Thats why Rose, D.j., and Arron all looked like good PGs in Chicago. But talent wise the Bulls always have a good roster of b players, so talent isnt the issue. Its how theyre used. Pop would have 2 rings with this Bulls team. Id bet money on that.

As far as Milwaukee, T-dot, and Indiana... Aside from Paul George pre-injury theres no one in any of those teams thats better than Derrick, or Jimmy. Indian maybe because of George is a great player, but everyone else???... Derozen??? Lowry??? And they have 6 FAs to resign... Milwaukee has???......... Who??? No one dynamic, even with Jabari they were a worse version of the "try hard gang." How are you going to give them props, yet straight dis the Bulls for playing hard and hustling??? I dont know who you really follow, but its clear you dont follow the Bulls, and clearly not any of the teams you named as on the come up aside from watching them on the court. Again, Im not trying to dis you on a personal level, but your post seemed to come from a passing interest, not necessarily knowledge of the situation.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

Blowing the team up would be stupid.

The Bulls still have more talent than those teams allegedly on the come-up.

Indiana was regressing even before they lost PG for the season. Hibbert has been playing like shit and David West was starting to regress too. They still don't have a 1. And they lost Lance.

Milwaukee has room to grow if Jabari develops and if they get another big scoring piece, and keep that defense up but they're still not a big threat yet.

Detroit's nowhere near being a threat.

You just saw how Toronto folded up in the playoffs, nobody's worried about them.

None of those teams are in better position than Bulls, and I don't see the Bulls getting better talent without getting raped in trades.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

LeBron just beat the Bulls in 6 games with Shumpert, a whiteboy from Australia, and only having JR Smith for 4 games.

Blow that shit up and start over. LeBron will never have less help than he had this series.

Unless the Hawks show out in this series (which I believe they might), I don't see another team in the EC who has enough talent to take out the Cavs even with that depleted roster, other than the Bulls.

The Bulls problem isn't talent, it isn't even really health anymore - it's the coaching.

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

So Fred Hoibert comes to the Bulls....no NBA coaching experience at all...and not much NCAA experience either....inherits a team that a great coach built......and gets 5 mill a year off top (more than Tom Tibbs got in his extension...AFTER HE PROVED HIMSELF). That coaching move is VERY similar to what happened in Golden State. I dont like to see shit like this...but its business,,,,so it is what it is i guess.

Must be fun to know people in high places.
Knowing those same people will also cover your ass when you fuck up.

WOuldnt be shocked if Brian Scalabrine gets a job soon paying him 7 mill a year.
^^^Didnt the Bulls offer him a coaching job not long ago

But anyways...............

 

[TruDat]

fred hoiberg
another iowa st coach

hoiberg is tim floyd 1.5 version

 

[Mt. Yukon]

Reserving judgment. Honestly don't know much about him or his system to speak on it. He gave a good press conference. That's all I can say.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

At least its something different. I can't take another season of hoping we just stay healthy enough to make the playoffs just to lose to whatever team Lebron's on.

They only good thing about this season's ending was that nobody got hurt.