Breaking... Warner Bros entire slate of 2021 films to be released same day on HBOMAX .. Holy Shit
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Why should they? Your home is your castle. Did a king have to go to the theatre or did the jesters come to him?
**PROCESS**
It has long been stated that movie theaters only keep 10% of the box office sales. It’s not that bad, and it’s not that simple. In practice, it really depends on the specifics of the negotiated contract. The distributor/studio makes separate deals with the various theatres. The terms are generally undisclosed. My personal observation is limited and possibly outdated by now but, as I saw it, theaters actually get to keep more than 10%.
For starters, there’s a “house allowance,” which the theater keeps to cover the “overhead” expenses associated with showing movies (e.g. electricity and staffing). I’ve seen this figure calculated based on the number of seats in whatever specific auditorium the movie is playing in. The value of each seat is a negotiated value. The point is to minimize the extent to which the theatre is financially exposed. The house allowance ensures that if nobody comes to see the movie, the theatre won’t lose the money spent on lights, air-conditioning, etc. They’ll make ends meet.
The house allowance is subtracted from the actual ticket sales, and the remaining money is divided or “split” between the distributor and theatre in an agreed-upon fashion.
For a typical release, the split might be 90/10 for the first x weekend(s) during which time the studio gets 90% and the theatre keeps 10%. The ratio gradually becomes more favorable to the cinema over time. [Unfortunately, movies don’t stay in theaters as long as they once did. The original Star Wars, for example, stayed in theaters for over a year. So, unless this “sliding scale” arrangement has been updated, it means the studio gets the lion’s share of today’s box office.]
In order to compete for the right to play a highly-anticipated blockbuster, the cinema might need to “guarantee” a certain dollar amount to the studio. Let’s imagine there are two theaters in close proximity—that is, they are in the same “catchment area”—and each of them wants to play the next big superhero movie. Theatre #1 might guarantee the studio $50,000, whereas Theatre #2 might make a $60,000 bid. In that case, Theatre #2 wins the movie. In this example, the “split” will remain in the studio’s favor until the studio has been paid the $60,000 that was promised. [Exception: If the movie fails to attract audiences, Theatre #2 might opt to simply pay off the guarantee and cut their losses, as dropping a bad movie gives them the freedom to utilize that screen to play a movie that’s performing better. Alternatively, the studio could counter with more favorable terms in an effort to keep the movie playing.]
So, with studios getting preferential treatment at the box office, how does the cinema make a profit?
Concessions.
Cinemas are essentially in the snack-food industry. The movie is simply the attraction. (Hence the term “Coming Attractions.”) A good movie brings people out to the theatre. A considerable portion of those folks will buy snacks. The snacks—especially popcorn and fountain beverages—are marked-up by a large enough margin to ensure profitability, taking into account not only the cost of the food items, but also the high cost of operating the entire cinema facility
But do we really know if it worked or not? What were the numbers? Plus Milan is a big difference than say an avengers movie. But we all know they probably would never release an avengers movie like that...
And don't be surprised if Disney hikes their price up in a year or 2...
Disney+ is about to have way more content to offer than HBO Max... Rumor has it they are about to get a 18+/Adult/Mature profile option ...
Which means all of 20th Century content will be on D+... (Aliens, Predator, Die Hard, Deadpool, etc...)
And with Indiana Jones leaving Netflix... strong bet D+ will get the new streaming rights...
I mean, the average home TV screens nowadays STARTS at 50-60 inches and only goes up, with projectors getting you above 100”; plus you can get a 5.1 surround sound system with wireless rear speakers that pushes out Dolby Atoms sound for as low as $199 (Vizio). And the average American is not an audiophile or videophile, so the “big screen” home TV and unlimited home snacks are more than sufficient.
Yeah, COVID dealing all kinds of death blows across the landscape; human and otherwise.
-Leather TV chairs
-Premium liquor and beer (this was/is the theaters modern add-on to the experience; marked up drinks)
-Humidor for movie cigars
Yeah, COVID dealing all kinds of death blows across the landscape; human and otherwise.
Now I need :
Bigger and better TV
gourmet popcorn machine
Updated slurpee machine
add on
-Leather TV chairs
-Premium liquor and beer (this was/is the theaters modern add-on to the experience; marked up drinks)
-Humidor for movie cigars
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Streaming companies. Anyone dumb enough to still hold theater stocks deserves what’s coming. Food delivery companies because Netflix and chill will on overload.
I guess Netflix and thats it. Im the wrong to ask though because I don't really watch TV
still going to see that "Newark movie" in the theater. the introvert in me thinks this HBO deal is great. the creation of a more anti social society.....I can sit in the house and do this and that, but the experience of being out with people, minus some new technology, like a streaming service, is needed from time to time.
Btw, youll only view the movie on HBO max for a month...and it wont come back to cable until it official leaves the theater. HBO Max wasnt doing big numbers priors to this. so the thought is that theyll be able to keep new subscribers most of next year, because in order to see all warner brothers movies, youll more than likely need to have the service for the entire year....since each movie will be released monthly.
yep. on another note, anyone not taking notes of what companies blew up once the covid19 hustle started are dumb af.
Btw, youll only view the movie on HBO max for a month...and it wont come back to cable until it official leaves the theater. HBO Max wasnt doing big numbers priors to this. so the thought is that theyll be able to keep new subscribers most of next year, because in order to see all warner brothers movies, youll more than likely need to have the service for the entire year....since each movie will be released monthly.
yep. on another note, anyone not taking notes of what companies blew up once the covid19 hustle started are dumb af.
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I'm sure the execs simply played it out and saw the inevitability of it, and, taking into account lessons learned from the Kodak, Blockbuster, etc.
Probably figured they couldn't afford to NOT do this.
Still doesn't take away from the shock - especially of this happening now, so soon.
Probably figured they couldn't afford to NOT do this.
Still doesn't take away from the shock - especially of this happening now, so soon.
But those folks that invested so heavily in Roku players can't play HBOMax. Which means they're missing out on those views. Comcast Universal tried to go that route too with Peacock, but Peacock is now on Roku
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that to be expected
but NOT before they take a CLOSE look at the landscape
they WANT to become ESENTIAL that is Disney standard operating procedure
and FAMILY
no matter how INSANE it si to go to the ACTUAL parks?
they make SURE that even the poorest kids will always have access to content.
they KNOW BETTER.
they will NEVER release the REAL numbers
but I'n sure there is a LEAK somewhere.
We gonna see..
if they release Black Widow on Disney+
Maybe a few of US should start a Home Theater Forum.
Since the Writing's obviously on the wall now.
New York City theaters haven't been opened for months now.
And I've been having serious IMAX/Dolby Cinema withdrawal symptoms.
The other aspect of all of this the shortening of the physical media release window after a film's run.
I already plan on buying "TENET"
Especially since I've been holding off on doing any pirate downloads on it.
As I will with "WW 1984" and a few other films down the line.
Since the Writing's obviously on the wall now.
New York City theaters haven't been opened for months now.
And I've been having serious IMAX/Dolby Cinema withdrawal symptoms.
The other aspect of all of this the shortening of the physical media release window after a film's run.
I already plan on buying "TENET"
Especially since I've been holding off on doing any pirate downloads on it.
As I will with "WW 1984" and a few other films down the line.
THIS IS THE WAY....DISNEY...AND EVERYOTHER STUDIO
Looking forward to
Denzel Washington’s The Little Things, Judas and the Black Messiah, Godzilla vs. Kong, Mortal Kombat, Those Who Wish Me Dead, The Suicide Squad, Reminiscence, Dune, The Many Saints of Newark, King Richard, Cry Macho and Matrix 4.
Looking forward to
Denzel Washington’s The Little Things, Judas and the Black Messiah, Godzilla vs. Kong, Mortal Kombat, Those Who Wish Me Dead, The Suicide Squad, Reminiscence, Dune, The Many Saints of Newark, King Richard, Cry Macho and Matrix 4.
I highly doubt it but we shall see...they will NEVER release the REAL numbers
but I'n sure there is a LEAK somewhere.
We gonna see..
if they release Black Widow on Disney+
I am shocked by this
either WB/AT&T realize 2021 will not be the bounce back some hoped for or they are willing to take losses on their films (when the were taking Ls anyway) for the long-term gain of building their subscription base. They are hoping ppl sign-up to watch wonder woman (or finally get the app since alot ppl get for free but dont know they do). Start using and forget to cancel. Or keep it because their is another big block buster coming out and the price HBO Max is the same as the price for a movie ticket in big cities.
Disney got Disney+ & Hulu
WB/AT&T has HBO Max
Paramount/Viacom have CBS Access
Comcast/Universal has Peacock
Netflix is Netflix
Amazon is Amazon Prime
Apple is Apple TV
& Qubi is dead
Netflix had the biggest headstart and Disney got the best family friendly library
now its up to the rest to get in the game. Honestly I am suprised HBO Max hasnt done better. And wonder how much of it is due to Roku/Firestick issue, the confusion of their roll-out (at one point there was HBO, HBO Go & HBO Max) and how many got it but dont know they got it
btw they need to stop bullshting and their Cinemax libary (Banshee, the Knick, Strikeback) and make Warrior an HBO Max show
either WB/AT&T realize 2021 will not be the bounce back some hoped for or they are willing to take losses on their films (when the were taking Ls anyway) for the long-term gain of building their subscription base. They are hoping ppl sign-up to watch wonder woman (or finally get the app since alot ppl get for free but dont know they do). Start using and forget to cancel. Or keep it because their is another big block buster coming out and the price HBO Max is the same as the price for a movie ticket in big cities.
Disney got Disney+ & Hulu
WB/AT&T has HBO Max
Paramount/Viacom have CBS Access
Comcast/Universal has Peacock
Netflix is Netflix
Amazon is Amazon Prime
Apple is Apple TV
& Qubi is dead
Netflix had the biggest headstart and Disney got the best family friendly library
now its up to the rest to get in the game. Honestly I am suprised HBO Max hasnt done better. And wonder how much of it is due to Roku/Firestick issue, the confusion of their roll-out (at one point there was HBO, HBO Go & HBO Max) and how many got it but dont know they got it
btw they need to stop bullshting and their Cinemax libary (Banshee, the Knick, Strikeback) and make Warrior an HBO Max show
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Get a LG Oled CX 65" trust me it's beautiful
Now I need :
Bigger and better TV
gourmet popcorn machine
Updated slurpee machine
add on
why u say that...
it's available on Nvidia. and dont forget about the new chromecast
I get going to the theatre is an experience, but with folks being able to buy a 55in TV for a few hundred dollars, going to the movies is not that big of deal for a lot of people.
Even if there was no COVID, I was good w/ not going to the theatre for a lot of movies.
Even if there was no COVID, I was good w/ not going to the theatre for a lot of movies.
This is cool and all but my home theater needs lossless audio and 4k video. The internet is the limiting factor. And I run Fios 300/300. And with multiple folks streaming shit... 
Ban
Calm down weirdo
Somehow doesn't sound like it makes financial sense. Hmmm you might be on to something.