Bolivia Presidential Candidate: I'm U.S. Worst Nightmare
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Reuters
Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:11 AM GMT
By Kevin Gray
LA PAZ, Bolivia (Reuters) - Leftist Evo Morales, a former coca leaf farmer who says he is a "nightmare for the U.S.," was poised to become Bolivia's first indigenous president on Sunday after his conservative rival conceded defeat.
Former president Jorge Quiroga, running a distant second place, bowed out of the race after results tabulated by local media showed Morales garnering close to 50 percent of the vote.
"I congratulate the candidates of MAS that have carried out a good campaign," Quiroga said, referring to Morales' Movement Towards Socialism party.
"Evo president! Evo president!" chanted hundreds of Morales supporters at his campaign headquarters in the central Bolivia city of Cochabamba.
Washington considers Morales an enemy in its anti-drug fight in Bolivia, the third biggest cocaine producer after Colombia and Peru. Morales wants to end the U.S.-funded eradication of coca, the crop used to make cocaine.
Morales' indigenous roots and his campaign against elites fed hopes among many Indians that one of their own could help reverse what many see as more than 500 years of discrimination under European-descended leaders.
Support for Morales, a 46-year-old lawmaker who admires Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, was also lifted by popular disillusionment with Bolivia's free-market economic policies, which many Bolivians say have done little to help many in South America's poorest country.
His critics fear any Morales government could jeopardise the country's flow of multi-million dollar economic aid from Washington.
Morales pledges to legalise coca growing for traditional uses such as tea and nationalise the country's vast natural gas resources.
Quiroga, a U.S.-educated engineer who served as president from 2001-2002, had vowed to keep Bolivia on a free-market path and implement U.S. coca eradication policies. Most of the country's coca leaves are processed into cocaine.
CHALLENGES THE U.S.
After he voted, Morales again lashed out at U.S. drug efforts. "I challenge the United States to create a real alliance to fight narcotrafficking," Morales said, flanked by farmers chewing the shiny green plant.
An Aymara Indian, Morales first rose to power as the leader of the country's coca farmers, heading sometimes violent confrontations against Bolivian troops co-operating with U.S.-backed coca eradication efforts.
A Morales presidency will add Bolivia to a region-wide drift to the left that has seen leftist presidents come to power in Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay and Venezuela.
Large-scale street demonstrations by Indian and union groups over the country's economic policies have toppled two presidents in three years.
Some Bolivians said they hoped the election would help stabilise the country - a flashpoint for anti-globalisation fervour that has gripped Latin America - which has been wracked by political and social turmoil.
Third-place candidate Samuel Doria also conceded, congratulating Morales.
Results showed Morales' MAS party also close to winning a slim majority in Congress.
Morales will face an array of challenges including calls for constitutional reforms giving more rights to Indians, demands for more autonomy for provinces and an ongoing debate over how to develop the country's huge natural gas fields.
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Reuters
Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:11 AM GMT
By Kevin Gray
LA PAZ, Bolivia (Reuters) - Leftist Evo Morales, a former coca leaf farmer who says he is a "nightmare for the U.S.," was poised to become Bolivia's first indigenous president on Sunday after his conservative rival conceded defeat.
Former president Jorge Quiroga, running a distant second place, bowed out of the race after results tabulated by local media showed Morales garnering close to 50 percent of the vote.
"I congratulate the candidates of MAS that have carried out a good campaign," Quiroga said, referring to Morales' Movement Towards Socialism party.
"Evo president! Evo president!" chanted hundreds of Morales supporters at his campaign headquarters in the central Bolivia city of Cochabamba.
Washington considers Morales an enemy in its anti-drug fight in Bolivia, the third biggest cocaine producer after Colombia and Peru. Morales wants to end the U.S.-funded eradication of coca, the crop used to make cocaine.
Morales' indigenous roots and his campaign against elites fed hopes among many Indians that one of their own could help reverse what many see as more than 500 years of discrimination under European-descended leaders.
Support for Morales, a 46-year-old lawmaker who admires Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, was also lifted by popular disillusionment with Bolivia's free-market economic policies, which many Bolivians say have done little to help many in South America's poorest country.
His critics fear any Morales government could jeopardise the country's flow of multi-million dollar economic aid from Washington.
Morales pledges to legalise coca growing for traditional uses such as tea and nationalise the country's vast natural gas resources.
Quiroga, a U.S.-educated engineer who served as president from 2001-2002, had vowed to keep Bolivia on a free-market path and implement U.S. coca eradication policies. Most of the country's coca leaves are processed into cocaine.
CHALLENGES THE U.S.
After he voted, Morales again lashed out at U.S. drug efforts. "I challenge the United States to create a real alliance to fight narcotrafficking," Morales said, flanked by farmers chewing the shiny green plant.
An Aymara Indian, Morales first rose to power as the leader of the country's coca farmers, heading sometimes violent confrontations against Bolivian troops co-operating with U.S.-backed coca eradication efforts.
A Morales presidency will add Bolivia to a region-wide drift to the left that has seen leftist presidents come to power in Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay and Venezuela.
Large-scale street demonstrations by Indian and union groups over the country's economic policies have toppled two presidents in three years.
Some Bolivians said they hoped the election would help stabilise the country - a flashpoint for anti-globalisation fervour that has gripped Latin America - which has been wracked by political and social turmoil.
Third-place candidate Samuel Doria also conceded, congratulating Morales.
Results showed Morales' MAS party also close to winning a slim majority in Congress.
Morales will face an array of challenges including calls for constitutional reforms giving more rights to Indians, demands for more autonomy for provinces and an ongoing debate over how to develop the country's huge natural gas fields.
© Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.
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those poor bolivian people. bolivian president being against america doesnt hurt america or him.
now, if this shit goes through where the coca plant will become a more mainstream crop in bolivia, then i can see an eventual drug state designation coming there way and in the extreme cuba type status granted to them.
now, if this shit goes through where the coca plant will become a more mainstream crop in bolivia, then i can see an eventual drug state designation coming there way and in the extreme cuba type status granted to them.
It's funny that he wants "open markets" but doesn't want to pay his countries debts.
Please give an example or two othe dealings you criticize, and how Bolivia is not responsible for any government debt incurred pursuant to those deals.Makkonnen said:
The intersesting thing, I think, is that Bush had come into office in 2001 saying that he would create better relations with our neighbors to the south. He "misunderestimated" south America and the problems that they face. he thought he could sprinkle speeches with a few poorly articulated Spanish words and they would cozy up, however, many of the countries have been leaning to the left for some time due to widespread poverty, corruption, and to the failed policies and attitudes toward much of S.A. and C.A. of past presidients (namely Bush Sr. and Reagan) who systamitically built up dictators only to later knock them down.
go read my threads about south america turning commie or venezuela - there is in depth information about the questionable practices of the IMF and WorldBank. What happened to Saddam Hussein's debt? Is Iraq now responsible for it? Why should disenfranchised poor native peoples be responsible for debt incurred by rich spainiards and despots that did absolutely nothing for them?Fuckallyall said:
Please, Iraq does not have the same government, and you knoiw that. And even with the different government, the IMF and the World bank voted to cancel/abrogate the debt, as they are allowed to do. And before you start bitching and moaning about the US influence, remember the US provides the Lion's share of the funds. Also, the countries DID get the money, N'est pas ?Makkonnen said:
P.S. could you please get me the link to that post ?
http://64.255.174.200/board/showthread.php?t=28620
http://64.255.174.200/board/showthread.php?t=21026
Who got the benefit of the money? A few rich white spainiards or the entire nation?
The US provides the funds, tells them how to spend the funds, makes them use US corporations to do any work involved and kills or intimidates any leader who tries not to deal with them.
Its like Vito(USA) forces you to get a loan from him(IMF) and no one else, then tells you to only use his cousin sal's construction company to build your offices(Haliburton, Bechtel). Then if you tell him no he tries to kill you(CIA in Panama etc) or tries to make your life hell (Coups etc - Chavez).
The politicians who go along with this get rich and those who dont...........
Read the ecuador thread- muthafuckas sold the water rights of the whole damn country to Bechtel and now they charge super poor mufuckas for it and they are already raping the nation's gas and oil at below market prices
Africa is now run by Africans and yes colonial influences are still around and incompetence and fraud are bad but it is all africans
Evo is the only fuckin south american leader who is truly a south american -
Have you seen some of these puppets? they are white men educated in the US almost always Lawyers and dont give a fuck about the people in the country unless they are rich
they are no different than saddam
and before you run down saddam's crimes against humanity read up on Pinochet and others who the CIA installed and trained- muthafucka had the cia and his people round up all the pro-democracy people and left wingers and put them in the big city stadium and the CIA gave them torture lessons and many people were never seen again
as far as i am concerned that debt is not worth honoring
its like a loan shark or mafia hustle - if you accept their money or favors you have to do what they say
dirty bullshit
http://64.255.174.200/board/showthread.php?t=21026
Who got the benefit of the money? A few rich white spainiards or the entire nation?
The US provides the funds, tells them how to spend the funds, makes them use US corporations to do any work involved and kills or intimidates any leader who tries not to deal with them.
Its like Vito(USA) forces you to get a loan from him(IMF) and no one else, then tells you to only use his cousin sal's construction company to build your offices(Haliburton, Bechtel). Then if you tell him no he tries to kill you(CIA in Panama etc) or tries to make your life hell (Coups etc - Chavez).
The politicians who go along with this get rich and those who dont...........
Read the ecuador thread- muthafuckas sold the water rights of the whole damn country to Bechtel and now they charge super poor mufuckas for it and they are already raping the nation's gas and oil at below market prices
Africa is now run by Africans and yes colonial influences are still around and incompetence and fraud are bad but it is all africans
Evo is the only fuckin south american leader who is truly a south american -
Have you seen some of these puppets? they are white men educated in the US almost always Lawyers and dont give a fuck about the people in the country unless they are rich
they are no different than saddam
and before you run down saddam's crimes against humanity read up on Pinochet and others who the CIA installed and trained- muthafucka had the cia and his people round up all the pro-democracy people and left wingers and put them in the big city stadium and the CIA gave them torture lessons and many people were never seen again
as far as i am concerned that debt is not worth honoring
its like a loan shark or mafia hustle - if you accept their money or favors you have to do what they say
dirty bullshit
Thanks. I will read and respond.Makkonnen said:
I think they didn't read your other post. Thanks for all the info.
Makkonnen-
I just finished reading both threads you hyperlinked, and I agree that the U.S. has done alot of grimey shit, with the latest being the backing of the Chavez coup. That is a big reason why I am a libertarian. Only a government that HAS much power can WEILD much power. Much of the articles I saw were heavily slanted opinions by Socialists. For rexample, the opinion that only the rich few get advantage from a widespread electric grid is preposterous considering that the whole area is covered. Also, those same people who protest the "bad loans" do so on streets paved by the "bad loans". And for that "economic hit man", if the US gov't./corporate structure killed high ranking government officials of countries, why would they leave him alive to tell the tale ? Also, he sounded like girl who says "I don't normally do that" after she swallows you knut when he talked about being "seduced" by the "sex, money and power" that "made" him become an "economic hit man". Sounds sheisty to me. I will do more research on that.
Also, I have a funny feeling about these "indigenous groups". As soon as they get power (which they should have), wath how they will become no different than those they replaced. But thanks again for posting those links.
I just finished reading both threads you hyperlinked, and I agree that the U.S. has done alot of grimey shit, with the latest being the backing of the Chavez coup. That is a big reason why I am a libertarian. Only a government that HAS much power can WEILD much power. Much of the articles I saw were heavily slanted opinions by Socialists. For rexample, the opinion that only the rich few get advantage from a widespread electric grid is preposterous considering that the whole area is covered. Also, those same people who protest the "bad loans" do so on streets paved by the "bad loans". And for that "economic hit man", if the US gov't./corporate structure killed high ranking government officials of countries, why would they leave him alive to tell the tale ? Also, he sounded like girl who says "I don't normally do that" after she swallows you knut when he talked about being "seduced" by the "sex, money and power" that "made" him become an "economic hit man". Sounds sheisty to me. I will do more research on that.
Also, I have a funny feeling about these "indigenous groups". As soon as they get power (which they should have), wath how they will become no different than those they replaced. But thanks again for posting those links.
fuckallyall- do more research on it- i would love to hear how the imf does not do what it does do.
please explain to me how poor indigenous tribes profit from their governments selling their water rights to bechtel and by having to pay for what was previously free- when they remain poor, unhealthy and uneducated
those protests arent for bad loans they are against politicians who sell the water and mineral rights of the entire nation to bechtel and haliburton and NONE of that money trickles down - none
otherwise show me how the government is investing that money where it benefits them.
would u be saying the same thing about south africa? that is what we are talking about. white european funded apartheid regimes in south america run by white people in nonwhite nations
all backed by the US
your personal opinions on the economic hitman have nothing to do with him being inaccurate so what can i say
please explain to me how poor indigenous tribes profit from their governments selling their water rights to bechtel and by having to pay for what was previously free- when they remain poor, unhealthy and uneducated
those protests arent for bad loans they are against politicians who sell the water and mineral rights of the entire nation to bechtel and haliburton and NONE of that money trickles down - none
otherwise show me how the government is investing that money where it benefits them.
would u be saying the same thing about south africa? that is what we are talking about. white european funded apartheid regimes in south america run by white people in nonwhite nations
all backed by the US
your personal opinions on the economic hitman have nothing to do with him being inaccurate so what can i say
I will.
the purpose of stopping the cooperation with the us is to stop the us involvement in bolivian military and police organizations and is part of bolivia refusing US aid that involves tampering with the country- both viewed as sovereignty issues. Morales campaigned with a tough anti-drug message.Greed said:
the WB and IMF made Bolivia sell their water rights to Bechtel- dont be upset when they throw those assholes out of the country and say fuck the US
Bechtel had the Bolivian government killing people over water- they said Bolivians couldnt collect rain
those mufuckas deserve whatever comes their way
Bechtel had the Bolivian government killing people over water- they said Bolivians couldnt collect rain
those mufuckas deserve whatever comes their way
you know don't beat up on the south americans so much keep in mind that from 1960 to 1980 the economies of latin america grew by 87% from 1980 to 2003 it grew by less then 10 % after listerning to Washinton..............and Washington has never admitted that there policies were wrong....................also anyone ever read the monroe doctrine......apply it to modern times and realise that the influence of Chine is growing not only in the Caribbean but South America.................just think about this for awhile
The Monroe Doctrine: http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/democrac/50.htm
I will post a reply when i have some free time
Please Note the last time the Monroe Doctrine/<!--StartFragment --> Platt Amendment (yes i know the <!--StartFragment --> Platt Amendment is not the same as the Monroe Doctrine) was used in Latin America was in 1983 Grenada Invasion...........................
I will post a reply when i have some free time
Please Note the last time the Monroe Doctrine/<!--StartFragment --> Platt Amendment (yes i know the <!--StartFragment --> Platt Amendment is not the same as the Monroe Doctrine) was used in Latin America was in 1983 Grenada Invasion...........................
Don't have much time but promise to reply so: (Quickie)
The Monroe Doctrine was the first of a number of policies that shape the relationship between washington and latin america: the main principle of the monroe doctrine is simple to keep other super powers out of latin america...following the doctrine came
the Platt Amendment to the Monroe Doctrine which was design for Cube .....then the Roosevelt Corollary which was design to keep Germany out of the Dominican Republic because of bad Credit......this was later apply to a number of other latin american countries ...............................................ok now the last time this type of policy was used was in 1983 to keep Grenada from the Russians
Now Quick Trip to Modern time China:
China Pumped 50 Billion Dollars worth of aid into latin america trying to fill the US role in the region and have struck deals with large growing economies like Brazil it is only a matter of time until china will do like they did in Africa and begin to open factories in the region to escap european and American import limits there influence will become great so the question is what will america do according to the Doctrine they cannot use physical force on these countries but they must also keep China out will they head for open conflict with leftist South America and how will that become a Security Issue America cannot afford to allow China to influence half of the Western Hemisphere.....................Yet if they do they will hurt the economy of South America Again................QUEX i would love to hear your view
The Monroe Doctrine was the first of a number of policies that shape the relationship between washington and latin america: the main principle of the monroe doctrine is simple to keep other super powers out of latin america...following the doctrine came
the Platt Amendment to the Monroe Doctrine which was design for Cube .....then the Roosevelt Corollary which was design to keep Germany out of the Dominican Republic because of bad Credit......this was later apply to a number of other latin american countries ...............................................ok now the last time this type of policy was used was in 1983 to keep Grenada from the Russians
Now Quick Trip to Modern time China:
China Pumped 50 Billion Dollars worth of aid into latin america trying to fill the US role in the region and have struck deals with large growing economies like Brazil it is only a matter of time until china will do like they did in Africa and begin to open factories in the region to escap european and American import limits there influence will become great so the question is what will america do according to the Doctrine they cannot use physical force on these countries but they must also keep China out will they head for open conflict with leftist South America and how will that become a Security Issue America cannot afford to allow China to influence half of the Western Hemisphere.....................Yet if they do they will hurt the economy of South America Again................QUEX i would love to hear your view
I haven't studied the issue but it seems to me China is in search of (1) resources, (2) trading partners and (3) to put some heat on the U.S. by operating in its backyard - causing the U.S. to spread its forces (the U.S. already operates heavily in Asia but heretofore hasn't had to spend a lot of resources guarding its backcourt).
Latin America has quite a bit of resouces that would interest China, especially of the energy variety which it badly needs. With the cost of production in China, its cheap goods probably make a good fit with Latin America. With the global economy its forseeable that the Chinese will give American producers a strong run for their money in Latin America -- maybe even cause many of them to become competitive instead of exploitative. All of that benefits Latin America, and thats good.
China's expansion into Latin America will, however, present it with a significant challenge militarily. If it becomes dependent to any degree on Latin American energy it will have to be prepared to defend it, if and when its foreign policy in the area threatens American interests. At this point, China doesn't have a Blue Water navy capable of holding down vital sea lanes to protect its investment if push should come to shove. Nevertheless, the Chinese are buying up Russian bottoms and stealing American ship technology trying to fill that gap. At some point, they will more than likely put to sea a blue water capability -- but the threat they eventually may pose will likely be buffered by the re-emergence of the Bear. The Bear will likely be hurt or retarded by Chinese economics and you know the story, money talks, bullshit walks. Hence, in my lowly opinion, despite the seemingly warm relations between the Chinese and the Russians right now, money (spelled economics) leaves room for exploitation of that relationship and, given the opportunity, Washington will find a way.
I read often on this board how American foreign policy is said to operate around oil, and it does - what do people think causes economies to run? I also note that both Russia and China are working overtime to gobble up oil and gas as well. Funny how that goes unnoticed or unsaid. Industrialized countries must be inherently exploitative -- and the Chinese are striving hard to become an industrialized leader. Wonder what that means ???
Its my opinion that the Monroe Doctrine will, in the foreseeable future, remain in effect in one form or another. Its a fact of life, stronger nations tend to have that power over weaker nations and regions. The Chinese are no fools. Thats why they are scrambling to expand their influence in Asia in an attempt to dominate that theatre and lessen U.S. influence in the region. The Chinese will make some inroads in Latin America and cause some headaches for the U.S. I doubt seriously, however, that aside from a few rubs it wants serious military confrontation -- more like, enough headaches to cause the U.S. to think more than once about Taiwan and much of Asia.
If I had a crystal ball or they let Ms. Cleo out of jail, I might have an idea what all this might portend for Latin America. Unfortunately, I don't. Could be the mere exchange of one expoitative force for another. We'll see though -- just as soon Latino men start humping Chinese women in downtown Beijing on the regular. Didn't turn out so well for the Africans, maybe the Latinos will fare better. We'll see.
QueEx
Latin America has quite a bit of resouces that would interest China, especially of the energy variety which it badly needs. With the cost of production in China, its cheap goods probably make a good fit with Latin America. With the global economy its forseeable that the Chinese will give American producers a strong run for their money in Latin America -- maybe even cause many of them to become competitive instead of exploitative. All of that benefits Latin America, and thats good.
China's expansion into Latin America will, however, present it with a significant challenge militarily. If it becomes dependent to any degree on Latin American energy it will have to be prepared to defend it, if and when its foreign policy in the area threatens American interests. At this point, China doesn't have a Blue Water navy capable of holding down vital sea lanes to protect its investment if push should come to shove. Nevertheless, the Chinese are buying up Russian bottoms and stealing American ship technology trying to fill that gap. At some point, they will more than likely put to sea a blue water capability -- but the threat they eventually may pose will likely be buffered by the re-emergence of the Bear. The Bear will likely be hurt or retarded by Chinese economics and you know the story, money talks, bullshit walks. Hence, in my lowly opinion, despite the seemingly warm relations between the Chinese and the Russians right now, money (spelled economics) leaves room for exploitation of that relationship and, given the opportunity, Washington will find a way.
I read often on this board how American foreign policy is said to operate around oil, and it does - what do people think causes economies to run? I also note that both Russia and China are working overtime to gobble up oil and gas as well. Funny how that goes unnoticed or unsaid. Industrialized countries must be inherently exploitative -- and the Chinese are striving hard to become an industrialized leader. Wonder what that means ???
Its my opinion that the Monroe Doctrine will, in the foreseeable future, remain in effect in one form or another. Its a fact of life, stronger nations tend to have that power over weaker nations and regions. The Chinese are no fools. Thats why they are scrambling to expand their influence in Asia in an attempt to dominate that theatre and lessen U.S. influence in the region. The Chinese will make some inroads in Latin America and cause some headaches for the U.S. I doubt seriously, however, that aside from a few rubs it wants serious military confrontation -- more like, enough headaches to cause the U.S. to think more than once about Taiwan and much of Asia.
If I had a crystal ball or they let Ms. Cleo out of jail, I might have an idea what all this might portend for Latin America. Unfortunately, I don't. Could be the mere exchange of one expoitative force for another. We'll see though -- just as soon Latino men start humping Chinese women in downtown Beijing on the regular. Didn't turn out so well for the Africans, maybe the Latinos will fare better. We'll see.
QueEx
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P.S.
If I was running shit, I would have moved long ago to normalize relations with Cuba. Let the virtues of democracy and greed (where is his ass anyway?) do its thing naturally (no need to even contemplate force). Castro's revolution would have crumbled under its own weight or actually proved to be a better system. Either way, we might not be having this discussion.
QueEx
If I was running shit, I would have moved long ago to normalize relations with Cuba. Let the virtues of democracy and greed (where is his ass anyway?) do its thing naturally (no need to even contemplate force). Castro's revolution would have crumbled under its own weight or actually proved to be a better system. Either way, we might not be having this discussion.
QueEx
If it weren't for the fact that the USA's attitude toward coca producing countries weren't so pathetic it would be funny....
I don't know how this newly elected president isn't public enemy #1...?
I also don't know how the president of Columbia isn't public enemy #1...?
I was/am dead set against the US policy of imperialism in the middle east(Iraq), but I would help recruit in order to invade ANY South American coca producing countries that ship metric ton after metric ton of that sh*t to inner cities(Black people) on a daily basis....
Has anyone here noticed that narcotics is the "pox" of inner city Black America, whether it be drug use...theft over drugs...drug addiction...murder over drugs...incarceration over drugs?
How is it that this guy, with the devil in his eyes, state that he is going to basically "flood" the US with coke?
He's not going to flood the US with coke....
He will help bring prices down on coke which will lead to more coke, more drug dealers, more everything negative in Black America...and when I say Black America I don't mean the self-haters who don't actually realize that they are in the same boat as "Ray-Ray an 'em from the 16th floor"....
I don't know how this newly elected president isn't public enemy #1...?
I also don't know how the president of Columbia isn't public enemy #1...?
I was/am dead set against the US policy of imperialism in the middle east(Iraq), but I would help recruit in order to invade ANY South American coca producing countries that ship metric ton after metric ton of that sh*t to inner cities(Black people) on a daily basis....
Has anyone here noticed that narcotics is the "pox" of inner city Black America, whether it be drug use...theft over drugs...drug addiction...murder over drugs...incarceration over drugs?
How is it that this guy, with the devil in his eyes, state that he is going to basically "flood" the US with coke?
He's not going to flood the US with coke....
He will help bring prices down on coke which will lead to more coke, more drug dealers, more everything negative in Black America...and when I say Black America I don't mean the self-haters who don't actually realize that they are in the same boat as "Ray-Ray an 'em from the 16th floor"....
read upJim_Browski said:
morales campaigned on a hardline antidrug stance- he refuses to accept us drug war aid which leaves his nation open to more outside influence than he prefers
drugs and criminality are big bad issues for our people but not as much as the white and black politicians and other AMERICANS who add extra stigma and punishment to poor man's coke high
most coke users in the USA are white middle class people and when they are caught they receive lighter punishment and they are even pursued less
i dont dig coke but it isnt a barrier to economic success or living for most of the millions of white american people who use it
funny how the nsa can find out what you told your momma yesterday on the phone but have no idea about all the metric tons of cargo entering the nation
alcohol and tobacco kill more people than coke and cost tax payers like us more money to deal with but u want to recruit to invade south america?
last time your wife cheated on you did you go find a stranger to beat the shit out of? did it make you feel better? did it stop your wife from cheating?
at least you and que are on the same page
of what book I have no fuckin idea
