OMG this show is killing me......ugh.....all these episodes are just filler.....they seriously need to look for new writers 
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OMG this show is killing me......ugh.....all these episodes are just filler.....they seriously need to look for new writers
I'm strongly thinking about dropping this show,because this show hasn't been good since the second season and I don't need to waste my time on it.I don't understand,how they just ruined a great show.
It's so bad,I skip through most of the show,because I will fall asleep.
I will say that the fighting on last night's episode was on fire.
I don't know if I will call last night filler since it directly related to Darks plot. It was one of my favorite episodes of the Season.
I just think it needs some new blood behind the camera. Greg has spread himself to thin.
I don't know if I will call last night filler since it directly related to Darks plot. It was one of my favorite episodes of the Season.
I just think it needs some new blood behind the camera. Greg has spread himself to thin.
Arrow’s Echo Kellum on Becoming Mr. Terrific, Snapchat, and the ‘Revenge of the Black Nerd’ Lifestyle
By Jenny RafteryShare12Tweet0Share0Email
Things can get dark on Arrow pretty quickly — though some threats are more serious nuclear destruction) than others (robotic bees). So it’s no surprise that the addition of comedic actor Echo Kellum, as the good-humored and geeky scientist Curtis Holt, has been a welcomed bright spot in the perpetually doomed Star City. In tonight’s season finale, Curtis’s somewhat sunny worldview is challenged as big bad Damien Darhk goes nuclear on Team Arrow. But as Kellum notes, “Even in our darkest moments, some things tend to make us laugh.”
Prior to Arrow, Kellum had stints on a number of comedy series (Ben and Kate; You’re the Worst), and currently, he performs on three different house improv teams in Los Angeles. But one of the best places to get a sense of Kellum’s playful humor is his Snapchat feed, which features reoccurring bits, like Kellum’s search for an elusive pair of Nike Jordan sneakers. Vulture spoke with Kellum about the Arrow finale, sleeping on the job, and Curtis’s expected transition to superhero Mr. Terrific.
At the end of “Beacon of Hope,” Curtis seemed to hang up the idea of being a hero for good. But in last week’s episode, he stumbles into helping save the world from nuclear destruction. Where’s Curtis’s head, in terms of joining Team Arrow?
Curtis is driven to help people, so when things get tough, Curtis’s train of thought is “Do something.”
Even if that means keeping secrets from his husband, Paul? Paul may not be so willing to heat up soup for Curtis if he’s running around every night and Paul doesn’t know why or with whom.
Every relationship has its ups and downs, and Curtis and Paul’s is no different, but I believe Paul truly supports Curtis, and they would always find a way to get back to “heat up soup” mode.
When Curtis first helped out Team Arrow, Oliver wasn’t too thrilled. Will we see more tension between those two characters?
There is definitely room for some of that tension to be delved deeper into in season five. As far as the finale goes, they do have some moments where they have to talk brass tacks to each other to help figure out the situation. At one point, Curtis and Oliver have a heart-to-heart while things around them are spiraling.
In season two of You’re the Worst, you play a member of an improv troupe. How has your own improv experience helped you as an actor?
When I found improv, it changed my life. It was just one of those things that I tried and I was immediately like, “I want to do this for the rest of my life.” For me, it’s like, you go out and audition and all that, that’s fine. But being on the stage in improv theater, creating it all on the fly, that’s really the ground floor where the artistic creative energy comes from. When you’re doing improv, you’re acting, editing, directing, choreographing all instantaneously, and when you have time to pull back from it, it makes you sharper. Even with Ben and Kate, there were parts of the audition where I used improv to help make some lines hit better.
What about your audition for Arrow? What was that like?
The part had a code name, or at least a different character’s name. But I thought the character was really cool and fun and smart and a lot like myself in the sense that I used to work at [Best Buy’s] Geek Squad and am really into technology. So I really connected with the material. At the end of the audition [process], they let me know that the part was Mr. Terrific, and I was blown away because I was familiar with that character. Then I got a call a couple of days later that they wanted me to play him.
Do you remember the code name from the audition?
Oh God, I feel like it was Barry.
Barry, as in Barry Allen the Flash?
I feel like that’s what it was, but I could be way off. [Laughs.]
You didn’t think you were secretly auditioning to replace Grant Gustin?
I guess I could have been auditioning to be Barry from Earth 17 or something. I don’t know. [Laughs.]
I loved that moment in “Beacon of Hope” where Curtis recognizes the Green Arrow and the Black Canary, but then had no idea who Diggle was. Was that improvised?
We really find out a lot of things on the fly. That wasn’t originally that kind of moment, and it just happened that way. And there’s been a couple of times where I’ve said something a little different and they’re like, “Leave it in.” The whole cast can just go with the flow. They’re all very receptive and open. Obviously, the writing is phenomenal, but it’s nice to know that here and there you can add your own piece of yourself to it.
Did they have you do a chemistry test with Emily Bett Rickards? Her character, Felicity, is an important person in Curtis’s life and an entry point for him into Team Arrow.
When I went in to the audition room for the first time with [casting director] David [Rapaport], he was like “Oh my God, you and Emily would be perfect for each other.” I think they just really trust their gut because they didn’t have us test or chemistry read or anything. They can just feel different energies. I love working with Emily. We’re similar in a lot of ways, and we both really respect each other and have the same sense of humor and sensibilities. It’s amazing that David saw that from the jump.
Do you have any special memory of working with Emily from this past season?
So many special memories, but I want to say my first day working there. I was nervous to come onto a hit show. I just wanted to play a part to help in any way to maintain the quality of the show. It was so great how Emily was open and accepting and silly and professional. And what was really cool is that her best friend, Fanta [Sesay], who I’m now really good friends with, it was her first time working on the show. So we all kind of bonded and connected on that first day. That really stood out for me because that set the precedent for the rest of the season. That was definitely a big part of me wanting to come on as a series regular [for season five] — the people there. Everyone is so nice and down to earth and silly, but they get their work done. It’s a special place to work. They really got something cooking there.
You and the cast and crew seem to have a lot of fun, at least from what I’ve seen on your Snapchat.
You know, I had downloaded Snapchat a while ago, and I just went to try it and I realized, “Oh man, this is just a really fun venue for dumb, silly ideas.” You’re not expecting me to set up a shot and having lighting. Even with so many Vine videos, there’s so much that goes into it. With Snapchat, it’s so simple. You got a camera. You got some filters. You got some weird ideas. Like, my friend Drew Tarver invented this series called "Southern Lady." He was down south visiting his family, and he wore a wig and went through this story for two days of her going to these concerts, getting drunk with friends, riding tractors, and then had her die at the end. It was so wonderful. I was like, “God, this is better than most Comedy Central TV right now.” [Laughs.] I really love when people have fun with it. That’s how I like to approach it.
Is it accurate to say that you were Snapchat patient zero for theArrow cast?
Yeah, I guess everyone on the [Arrow] cast pretty much has it now. But I’m going to break the news to you guys: Emily Bett Rickards has Snapchat.
A secret Snapchat?
She does. [Laughs.] But it’s up to her to share what [her username] is.
Arrow fans are sleuths. They might be able to figure out.
Oh yeah, they will. They find everything. She had it before I did, years ago. We always talk about what should be her first snap, like, “What should she choose?!?” [Laughs.] I feel like any day now she’s going to do it.
Did you have a favorite scene or moment from filming this season?
There’s a moment in the finale where we were shooting late — it’s embarrassing to me, but whatever — and I’m laying down in the scene, and I went to sleep for real. I started snoring over people’s dialogue in the middle of a scene. [Laughs.] So that was a fun moment. It was just so comfortable. I was like, “Oh my God, I want to just sleep.” They got it on camera. I was like, “Please, let that get into the bloopers.”
Has your Arrow role led to more public recognition?
It went up another notch. I always have people looking at me like, “Where do I know this guy?” I’m a tall black man with an Afro, and I stand out like a sore thumb. Everyone’s like, “Hey, that’s that dude.” What’s really cool to me is the type of people coming up to me. I was born in the projects in Chicago, but I have so many dudes coming up to me from the hood who are like, “I love your character, man.” Arrow touches everywhere. All my homies and stuff, we’re all from inner-city Chicago and we’re all huge superhero fans. The “revenge of the black nerd” lifestyle is real.
It’s expected that at some point in the series Curtis will adopt his superhero persona, Mr. Terrific. Have they done any preliminary costume tests for you?
I haven’t had any fittings as of yet, but my only hope is for a dope “Fair Play” jacket.
Besides Mr. Terrific, is there any aspect of Curtis’s story you’d like to see explored in season five? Maybe a Curtis flashback?
Hey, I’m down for that.
What about an Echo flashback? What would that look like?
I think you’d see a lot of cool hanging. A lot of video-game playing. A lot of basketballing. It would basically be He Got Game with video games.
By Jenny RafteryShare12Tweet0Share0Email
Things can get dark on Arrow pretty quickly — though some threats are more serious nuclear destruction) than others (robotic bees). So it’s no surprise that the addition of comedic actor Echo Kellum, as the good-humored and geeky scientist Curtis Holt, has been a welcomed bright spot in the perpetually doomed Star City. In tonight’s season finale, Curtis’s somewhat sunny worldview is challenged as big bad Damien Darhk goes nuclear on Team Arrow. But as Kellum notes, “Even in our darkest moments, some things tend to make us laugh.”
Prior to Arrow, Kellum had stints on a number of comedy series (Ben and Kate; You’re the Worst), and currently, he performs on three different house improv teams in Los Angeles. But one of the best places to get a sense of Kellum’s playful humor is his Snapchat feed, which features reoccurring bits, like Kellum’s search for an elusive pair of Nike Jordan sneakers. Vulture spoke with Kellum about the Arrow finale, sleeping on the job, and Curtis’s expected transition to superhero Mr. Terrific.
At the end of “Beacon of Hope,” Curtis seemed to hang up the idea of being a hero for good. But in last week’s episode, he stumbles into helping save the world from nuclear destruction. Where’s Curtis’s head, in terms of joining Team Arrow?
Curtis is driven to help people, so when things get tough, Curtis’s train of thought is “Do something.”
Even if that means keeping secrets from his husband, Paul? Paul may not be so willing to heat up soup for Curtis if he’s running around every night and Paul doesn’t know why or with whom.
Every relationship has its ups and downs, and Curtis and Paul’s is no different, but I believe Paul truly supports Curtis, and they would always find a way to get back to “heat up soup” mode.
When Curtis first helped out Team Arrow, Oliver wasn’t too thrilled. Will we see more tension between those two characters?
There is definitely room for some of that tension to be delved deeper into in season five. As far as the finale goes, they do have some moments where they have to talk brass tacks to each other to help figure out the situation. At one point, Curtis and Oliver have a heart-to-heart while things around them are spiraling.
In season two of You’re the Worst, you play a member of an improv troupe. How has your own improv experience helped you as an actor?
When I found improv, it changed my life. It was just one of those things that I tried and I was immediately like, “I want to do this for the rest of my life.” For me, it’s like, you go out and audition and all that, that’s fine. But being on the stage in improv theater, creating it all on the fly, that’s really the ground floor where the artistic creative energy comes from. When you’re doing improv, you’re acting, editing, directing, choreographing all instantaneously, and when you have time to pull back from it, it makes you sharper. Even with Ben and Kate, there were parts of the audition where I used improv to help make some lines hit better.
What about your audition for Arrow? What was that like?
The part had a code name, or at least a different character’s name. But I thought the character was really cool and fun and smart and a lot like myself in the sense that I used to work at [Best Buy’s] Geek Squad and am really into technology. So I really connected with the material. At the end of the audition [process], they let me know that the part was Mr. Terrific, and I was blown away because I was familiar with that character. Then I got a call a couple of days later that they wanted me to play him.
Do you remember the code name from the audition?
Oh God, I feel like it was Barry.
Barry, as in Barry Allen the Flash?
I feel like that’s what it was, but I could be way off. [Laughs.]
You didn’t think you were secretly auditioning to replace Grant Gustin?
I guess I could have been auditioning to be Barry from Earth 17 or something. I don’t know. [Laughs.]
I loved that moment in “Beacon of Hope” where Curtis recognizes the Green Arrow and the Black Canary, but then had no idea who Diggle was. Was that improvised?
We really find out a lot of things on the fly. That wasn’t originally that kind of moment, and it just happened that way. And there’s been a couple of times where I’ve said something a little different and they’re like, “Leave it in.” The whole cast can just go with the flow. They’re all very receptive and open. Obviously, the writing is phenomenal, but it’s nice to know that here and there you can add your own piece of yourself to it.
Did they have you do a chemistry test with Emily Bett Rickards? Her character, Felicity, is an important person in Curtis’s life and an entry point for him into Team Arrow.
When I went in to the audition room for the first time with [casting director] David [Rapaport], he was like “Oh my God, you and Emily would be perfect for each other.” I think they just really trust their gut because they didn’t have us test or chemistry read or anything. They can just feel different energies. I love working with Emily. We’re similar in a lot of ways, and we both really respect each other and have the same sense of humor and sensibilities. It’s amazing that David saw that from the jump.
Do you have any special memory of working with Emily from this past season?
So many special memories, but I want to say my first day working there. I was nervous to come onto a hit show. I just wanted to play a part to help in any way to maintain the quality of the show. It was so great how Emily was open and accepting and silly and professional. And what was really cool is that her best friend, Fanta [Sesay], who I’m now really good friends with, it was her first time working on the show. So we all kind of bonded and connected on that first day. That really stood out for me because that set the precedent for the rest of the season. That was definitely a big part of me wanting to come on as a series regular [for season five] — the people there. Everyone is so nice and down to earth and silly, but they get their work done. It’s a special place to work. They really got something cooking there.
You and the cast and crew seem to have a lot of fun, at least from what I’ve seen on your Snapchat.
You know, I had downloaded Snapchat a while ago, and I just went to try it and I realized, “Oh man, this is just a really fun venue for dumb, silly ideas.” You’re not expecting me to set up a shot and having lighting. Even with so many Vine videos, there’s so much that goes into it. With Snapchat, it’s so simple. You got a camera. You got some filters. You got some weird ideas. Like, my friend Drew Tarver invented this series called "Southern Lady." He was down south visiting his family, and he wore a wig and went through this story for two days of her going to these concerts, getting drunk with friends, riding tractors, and then had her die at the end. It was so wonderful. I was like, “God, this is better than most Comedy Central TV right now.” [Laughs.] I really love when people have fun with it. That’s how I like to approach it.
Is it accurate to say that you were Snapchat patient zero for theArrow cast?
Yeah, I guess everyone on the [Arrow] cast pretty much has it now. But I’m going to break the news to you guys: Emily Bett Rickards has Snapchat.
A secret Snapchat?
She does. [Laughs.] But it’s up to her to share what [her username] is.
Arrow fans are sleuths. They might be able to figure out.
Oh yeah, they will. They find everything. She had it before I did, years ago. We always talk about what should be her first snap, like, “What should she choose?!?” [Laughs.] I feel like any day now she’s going to do it.
Did you have a favorite scene or moment from filming this season?
There’s a moment in the finale where we were shooting late — it’s embarrassing to me, but whatever — and I’m laying down in the scene, and I went to sleep for real. I started snoring over people’s dialogue in the middle of a scene. [Laughs.] So that was a fun moment. It was just so comfortable. I was like, “Oh my God, I want to just sleep.” They got it on camera. I was like, “Please, let that get into the bloopers.”
Has your Arrow role led to more public recognition?
It went up another notch. I always have people looking at me like, “Where do I know this guy?” I’m a tall black man with an Afro, and I stand out like a sore thumb. Everyone’s like, “Hey, that’s that dude.” What’s really cool to me is the type of people coming up to me. I was born in the projects in Chicago, but I have so many dudes coming up to me from the hood who are like, “I love your character, man.” Arrow touches everywhere. All my homies and stuff, we’re all from inner-city Chicago and we’re all huge superhero fans. The “revenge of the black nerd” lifestyle is real.
It’s expected that at some point in the series Curtis will adopt his superhero persona, Mr. Terrific. Have they done any preliminary costume tests for you?
I haven’t had any fittings as of yet, but my only hope is for a dope “Fair Play” jacket.
Besides Mr. Terrific, is there any aspect of Curtis’s story you’d like to see explored in season five? Maybe a Curtis flashback?
Hey, I’m down for that.
What about an Echo flashback? What would that look like?
I think you’d see a lot of cool hanging. A lot of video-game playing. A lot of basketballing. It would basically be He Got Game with video games.
Man the action was on point but they fucked it up...
They fucked it up... They had this great opportunity to piggy back on what happened on Flash but they didn't.
Now shit doesn't make sense... Did all this happen before Flash raced Zoom? I don't see how that's possible since I can't see Barry leaving for the past with 15000 nukes set to blow up the world. But this clearly couldn't have happened after Zoom because Barry went back and changed everything. If Barry is no longer the flash then Ollie would have ended up telling Felicity about his kid while in Central City and she would have broken up with him.
They have a lot of explaining if they start next season of Arrow with Ollie in the Mayor's office like shit didn't change.
I'm going to need the showrunner to come out and explain this bullshit. This ending would have worked better if Arrows season finale was last week. I'm calling DC cinematic shenanigans on this one.
They fucked it up... They had this great opportunity to piggy back on what happened on Flash but they didn't.
Now shit doesn't make sense... Did all this happen before Flash raced Zoom? I don't see how that's possible since I can't see Barry leaving for the past with 15000 nukes set to blow up the world. But this clearly couldn't have happened after Zoom because Barry went back and changed everything. If Barry is no longer the flash then Ollie would have ended up telling Felicity about his kid while in Central City and she would have broken up with him.
They have a lot of explaining if they start next season of Arrow with Ollie in the Mayor's office like shit didn't change.
I'm going to need the showrunner to come out and explain this bullshit. This ending would have worked better if Arrows season finale was last week. I'm calling DC cinematic shenanigans on this one.
What in the actual hell..
An entire season of disappointment. I was really hoping for a reason to watch the next season..... Nope there was nothing not even the fight scene. Too many speeches yet again....ugh... For a season finale it seems like no effort went into it at all. Next season I will have to use this thread to gauge whether I'll watch again.
Next season I will have to use this thread to gauge whether I'll watch again.
At this point, I think they need to go full flashpoint with the CW superhero shows. It is clear to me that the showrunners have run themselves into a wall on this show and have lost their way. This all started once Greg started taking on all these other shows. It is clear to me that he has passed the buck to someone else since the end of season 2 and it shows in the product.
Now all of these shows have this great opportunity to go for a full season long flashpoint storyline and renvigorate the viewers. Comic books do this all the time. Hell they just made Captain America a secret hydra spy. There is nothing in the rule book that says that you can't do this.
I would leave earth 2 on the previous timeline... That way we could still have earth 2 wells comeback to Earth 1 for some reason with all of his memories intact and have to deal with this new timeline that Barry has created. Arrow could be rebooted completely. They could even go back to the original team arrow and eliminate everyone knowing Ollie secret identity. Hell you could even have Ollies mom still alive. Maybe even Tommy.. They could turn him into the Dark Archer.. Giving Ollie a new Villian.
But something tells me that they aren't going to do any of this.
Now all of these shows have this great opportunity to go for a full season long flashpoint storyline and renvigorate the viewers. Comic books do this all the time. Hell they just made Captain America a secret hydra spy. There is nothing in the rule book that says that you can't do this.
I would leave earth 2 on the previous timeline... That way we could still have earth 2 wells comeback to Earth 1 for some reason with all of his memories intact and have to deal with this new timeline that Barry has created. Arrow could be rebooted completely. They could even go back to the original team arrow and eliminate everyone knowing Ollie secret identity. Hell you could even have Ollies mom still alive. Maybe even Tommy.. They could turn him into the Dark Archer.. Giving Ollie a new Villian.
But something tells me that they aren't going to do any of this.
I don't understand,how a show that was great in it's first two seasons and then fall so quickly two season later.
Like I said,last week,The Flash did a better job with Laurel than the show,she's originally from...The sad part,I was starting to like her this season and then bam they killed her off on Arrow
Another thing,the flashbacks has to go or atleast the writing have to be better.I didn't give two shits about what happened to Oliver on the island this and last season.
They can't have all these crossovers and not be effected by Barry fucking up the timeline three times.I have a feeling they're going to fuck that up
Another thing,how the fuck did Oliver kill Damien Darhk so easily ...You mean to tell,Oliver couldn't do it earlier...
Where are the nukes at? We seen one nuke getting hacked and yet 15,000 other nukes just magically disappeared..
Man I thought the exact same thing. All I was thinking about was... Wasn't Barry and his family looking at TV during the end of his season finale. Shouldn't there be somekind of mention of 15,000 nukes. I think the writers went overboard with the nukes. How can felicity be joking around and shit when her actions directly lead to 10,000 people dying? DC went into panic mode when people were bitching about Superman's actions indirectly led to the death of thousands of people. Well didn't Felicity just do the same thing? I was expecting somekind of emotional fallback from this.
Overall this season was still light years better then Season 3. That's not saying that Season 4 was good.... it's just that Season 3 was that bad.
I think the flashbacks need to be paired down to maybe two episodes in the Season and that's it. I don't give two shits about seeing past Ollie off on some adventure in Russia. Again... all this does is raise the question... Why in the fuck does he not call his family to let him know he is alive. If I was Thea I would disown him.... knowing that she lived 5 years thinking he was dead and dude was just gallivanting across the globe. This is also doing alot of damage to the impact of Season 1 when Barry was rescued from the Island and began his quest to save his city. Why would he care so much about saving his city when he has seen first hand all the fucked up shit going around the globe.
I think Greg needs to step back in correct the ship or the bring in Paul Dini or someone else to correct this shit. This show has become a parody into itself. I don't know why they felt that they needed to make Ollie into this Champion of the city. The Batman (vigilante ) thing that they were doing for Season 1 and Season 2 worked so well.
I think the writers went overboard with the nukes. How can felicity be joking around and shit when her actions directly lead to 10,000 people dying? DC went into panic mode when people were bitching about Superman's actions indirectly led to the death of thousands of people. Well didn't Felicity just do the same thing? I was expecting somekind of emotional fallback from this.
Overall this season was still light years better then Season 3. That's not saying that Season 4 was good.... it's just that Season 3 was that bad.
I think the flashbacks need to be paired down to maybe two episodes in the Season and that's it. I don't give two shits about seeing past Ollie off on some adventure in Russia. Again... all this does is raise the question... Why in the fuck does he not call his family to let him know he is alive. If I was Thea I would disown him.... knowing that she lived 5 years thinking he was dead and dude was just gallivanting across the globe. This is also doing alot of damage to the impact of Season 1 when Barry was rescued from the Island and began his quest to save his city. Why would he care so much about saving his city when he has seen first hand all the fucked up shit going around the globe.
I think Greg needs to step back in correct the ship or the bring in Paul Dini or someone else to correct this shit. This show has become a parody into itself. I don't know why they felt that they needed to make Ollie into this Champion of the city. The Batman (vigilante ) thing that they were doing for Season 1 and Season 2 worked so well.
I just got through watching the first episode,did Oliver finish his list,because he had atleast a couple of pages full of names.
They should of stuck to that storyline and expand it,but they made Oliver this vigilante that fights for the city
Stephen Amell Addresses Whether Flash Finale Affects Arrow Season 5
When The Flash season came to an end, Barry Allen had undoubtedly changed everything. By going back in time (again) and this time stopping his mother Nora's death, there simply must be a major ripple effect on that world. After all, Barry saw one of the othertime-traveling Barry's fade out of existence almost immediately, not a very good sign.
But while The Flash will certainly have to deal with those issues, it doesn't sound like it'll spread out to the other DC Comics-based shows on The CW, or at least not Arrow.
"I don't know," Arrow star Stephen Amell frankly told Comicbook.com in an interview. He reiterated what he told us at the CW Upfronts, that he's ready for Arrow to go back to a more grounded world. "I do know that we’ve done a lot of work on Arrow to introduce the other shows, for lack of a better term, and now that that’s all done, we’re focused on doing the things that we do well for Season 5."
When asked if that meant bringing it "back to basics," Amell said, "Yes, that's exactly right. Arrow is at its best when we’re dealing with problems in Star City. We’re not a time-travel show, we’re not a multi-Earth show, though obviously [we do that] with crossovers and stuff like that. We’re Arrow, we deal with Star City, and I feel like we’ll be better off focusing on that."
http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/05/25/stephen-amell-addresses-whether-flash-finale-affects-arrow-seaso/
When The Flash season came to an end, Barry Allen had undoubtedly changed everything. By going back in time (again) and this time stopping his mother Nora's death, there simply must be a major ripple effect on that world. After all, Barry saw one of the othertime-traveling Barry's fade out of existence almost immediately, not a very good sign.
But while The Flash will certainly have to deal with those issues, it doesn't sound like it'll spread out to the other DC Comics-based shows on The CW, or at least not Arrow.
"I don't know," Arrow star Stephen Amell frankly told Comicbook.com in an interview. He reiterated what he told us at the CW Upfronts, that he's ready for Arrow to go back to a more grounded world. "I do know that we’ve done a lot of work on Arrow to introduce the other shows, for lack of a better term, and now that that’s all done, we’re focused on doing the things that we do well for Season 5."
When asked if that meant bringing it "back to basics," Amell said, "Yes, that's exactly right. Arrow is at its best when we’re dealing with problems in Star City. We’re not a time-travel show, we’re not a multi-Earth show, though obviously [we do that] with crossovers and stuff like that. We’re Arrow, we deal with Star City, and I feel like we’ll be better off focusing on that."
http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/05/25/stephen-amell-addresses-whether-flash-finale-affects-arrow-seaso/
its because they changed the show runners from what i understand. Arrow season 1 & 2 had Andrew Kreisberg, Greg Berlanti, and felicity lover Marc Guggenheim. When they made the flash Andrew Kreisberg and Greg Berlanti left to run that show taking their awesomeness with them leaving Marc Guggenheim and former desperate housewifes writer Wendy Mericle to run arrow. Thats why the writing is kinda shitty and we had alot of felicity crying and shit about everything in season 3 cause Mericle likes that kind of "drama" and they dont care about appeasing comic fans like Andrew Kreisberg and Greg Berlanti did with arrow season 1 & 2 and the flash.
also they need to stop it with the dark knight rises league of assassins vs police battles that they keep using in arrow, this is the third time they've done it and this shit wasnt even tense. Armed hive soldiers fighting random pedestrians (who would really just run away if it was real life) yet they dont fire a shot which makes no sense, the only one who fired was diggles dumb ass wife who clearly should be fired.
An entire season of disappointment. I was really hoping for a reason to watch the next season..... Nope there was nothing not even the fight scene. Too many speeches yet again....ugh... For a season finale it seems like no effort went into it at all.
I AGREE completely lackluster finale zzzzzz snore....zzzzzz
Stephen Amell Addresses Whether Flash Finale Affects Arrow Season 5
When The Flash season came to an end, Barry Allen had undoubtedly changed everything. By going back in time (again) and this time stopping his mother Nora's death, there simply must be a major ripple effect on that world. After all, Barry saw one of the othertime-traveling Barry's fade out of existence almost immediately, not a very good sign.
But while The Flash will certainly have to deal with those issues, it doesn't sound like it'll spread out to the other DC Comics-based shows on The CW, or at least not Arrow.
"I don't know," Arrow star Stephen Amell frankly told Comicbook.com in an interview. He reiterated what he told us at the CW Upfronts, that he's ready for Arrow to go back to a more grounded world. "I do know that we’ve done a lot of work on Arrow to introduce the other shows, for lack of a better term, and now that that’s all done, we’re focused on doing the things that we do well for Season 5."
When asked if that meant bringing it "back to basics," Amell said, "Yes, that's exactly right. Arrow is at its best when we’re dealing with problems in Star City. We’re not a time-travel show, we’re not a multi-Earth show, though obviously [we do that] with crossovers and stuff like that. We’re Arrow, we deal with Star City, and I feel like we’ll be better off focusing on that."
http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/05/25/stephen-amell-addresses-whether-flash-finale-affects-arrow-seaso/
This can't be true... If they don't show an effect on Arrow then I'm done because I can no longer believe in their world.
Damn this all makes sense. That's why arrow has turned into a fucking soap opera.
You should message the writers or who ever is in charge of Arrow. You can put together a better show than the shit they giving us.
Man I hate to do it too, but I would have to join you. I can't continue to support a show that has completely lost its way. They really need new showrunners right now. This Soap Opera like bullshit is killing them.
It should of been affected in the first place,since Barry changed the timeline three times already.
The first time it happened it was during the Arrow/Flash crossover this year,when Oliver,Laurel and etc got killed trying to trap Savage,the second is when Barry went back in time to get help from Eobard Thawne to go faster and then third time was the season finale of Flash...That's three time right there...
They need to go ahead and establish Mr. Terrific. Kill the love stories and speeches, and get villains who will actually use their powers. Bring back Roy and make him Arsenal. Arrow, Terrific and Arsenal. That's all you need.
Reddit said FUCK IT....https://www.reddit.com/r/arrow
I just hate this version of mr terrific, hes a sidekick of a sidekick and basically a gay male version of felicity. Btw they said roy was coming back next season for some eps and apparently he left arrow in the first place cause he was having a gay crisis.
Yeah, making him gay was pointless. Serves no point on the show.
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