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This team breakup stuff is exhausting...

And now this 2nd team is just filled with busters.

If possible they made terrific more annoying

And actually made wild dog completely unlikable

Canary could actually be a dope character if they knew what to do with her.
 
That character BETTER not be dead.

But then again the death better be permanent cause then this show loses what little respectability it had left.
 
joneblaze said:
The action sequences have an almost point of view feel to them and i like it.That was one of the most raw and on point episodes ever
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maybe the BEST in modern TV

consistently smart violent and perfectly shot and choreographed...

and feels completely wasted by the below average writing
 
playahaitian said:
This team breakup stuff is exhausting...

And now this 2nd team is just filled with busters.

If possible they made terrific more annoying

And actually made wild dog completely unlikable

Canary could actually be a dope character if they knew what to do with her.
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And I’m back... the team split up makes zero Fucking sense right now. Even in the show these groups are acknowledging that Kadin James has them beat on the numbers. They know he is inside everything and they are up here bitching because of a lack of trust... when one of them actually did betray Oliver and when you factor in what Old Girl did last year. I’d follow mutherfuckers too...

And this looks even more stupid when in last Episode... Terrific kept the fact that he met with Vigilante from the group until he could verify the intel because he didn’t trust Dana's reactions which is basically the exact same fucking thing that Oliver did.

Fam I thought Season 3 was bad... but this is the worst Season.

Like this is one of the Biggest threats that Arrow has faced and it doesn’t feel like there are any stakes in this. Like the city is blocked off and bitches are still talking about.... Oliver getting arrested or I can trust you.

Every five seconds somebody is saying “I’m glad to be working with people I trust or I’m glad you guys got my back”... ughhh

If that FBI chick makes an appearance to say Anything about Oliver being the Arrow... I’m calling Fucking Horseshit. And if Wild dog makes another snide comment about working with Arrow... I’m punching the screen. You were basically begging to work with Oliver. It was only because of Oliver and Quentin that he was able to see his daughter.. then he screwed it up and then they came through again and he now he is seeing her.. So what do you do? You take a fucking deal to snitch on Oliver without telling any of these people and now you are bitching at him because you feel betrayed...

Nigga... you get the Martin Face for this shit.

How does Terrific and Dana know he hasnt snitched them out and then why are any of you bitching at Oliver when both groups need to be working together since you have an entire group of villains that knows the identities of all of you bitiches. Act like adults and get over this shit until the threat has passed.



The only fucking saving grace for this season is that the fighting is the best this show has ever done. I mean movie quality Level fight scenes.



But next season... Arrow is going to need a Fucking reboot. Kill of some characters and strip the team down to the bones.
 
playahaitian said:
I pretty much have given Arrow a mulligan.

cause this aint good...

nope not good at all.

But Prometheus season was such a masterpiece?

Imma let this one slide.

But they testing me.

this is NOT good.
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I’m quoting this because I agree with all of it... I give Arrow a mulligan.

I just don’t know what happened.. the set up for Season 6 was perfect. It was basically written for them.. they didn’t have to do shit. You could have changed the dynamic of the team. Killed off some people..

And even used the flashbacks to explain how they escaped the place or how certain members didn’t escape. It was perfect. Was perfect..


And to quote Angry Joe... The Dun Fucked It Up!!!!!

I almost wish this Season Turned out to be nothing but a VR dream created by the Dominators. And everyone is still on the Island and they can start Season 7 off proper.
 
playahaitian said:
It's like they came up with a really cool villian name and made up the rest as they went along.
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Yeap... they have this cool tech Villian that has literally been four steps behind him and yet he has Zero weight to his actions. I have no clue what dude wants and why any of these guys would be working for him. He is this amazing tech guy and yet he is fooled by an obvious fake video of dude killing his son. I mean Arrow was in another city recruiting Black Canary.. he did shit in that city. Like that’s easy shit to see.. at least enough shit to make one question... hmmm maybe someone is trying to play me.

The other issue is that there is obviously a bigger threat out there masterminding this shit... when they hell are going to see this person. WILL WE EVEN SEE THIS PERSON THIS YEAR..

The way Arrow has gone the last 3 seasons we will not know who this person is until Season 7 and on the real... that should be the last Season. The last threat needs to be a World Killer. Like we know that at some point in the future Argus runs things... so let Season 7 be that Season. Have Amanda Waller rise from grave and Be like.. all you bitches are puppets. I manipulated all of this so I could get the Vigilante act passed across the nation so the government would give Argus complete control to inforce it..


Argus would be the biggest threat Team Arrow has ever seen.. It would open up crossovers. It would put everyone on track to prevent the furture seen on Legends. We know that Rip stashed a bunch of weapons on board the wave runner and that Barry was the one to tell Rip about it. Maybe that’s the moment that Barry was talking about.


I don’t know.. I’m throwing out shit but something must be done.
 
I still like this show but 22 episodes seasons are now exhausting - especially with the same adversary - I just watched Altered Carbon and I think 10 episodes are perfect - TV network shows should change the model and do 2 10 episodes season a year but make them distinct seasons - they have a version of the Fall premiere Winter premier but in most cases it just a break in the continuing story. The stories just drag on

Just a thought
 
fonzerrillii said:
And I’m back... the team split up makes zero Fucking sense right now. Even in the show these groups are acknowledging that Kadin James has them beat on the numbers. They know he is inside everything and they are up here bitching because of a lack of trust... when one of them actually did betray Oliver and when you factor in what Old Girl did last year. I’d follow mutherfuckers too...

And this looks even more stupid when in last Episode... Terrific kept the fact that he met with Vigilante from the group until he could verify the intel because he didn’t trust Dana's reactions which is basically the exact same fucking thing that Oliver did.

Fam I thought Season 3 was bad... but this is the worst Season.

Like this is one of the Biggest threats that Arrow has faced and it doesn’t feel like there are any stakes in this. Like the city is blocked off and bitches are still talking about.... Oliver getting arrested or I can trust you.

Every five seconds somebody is saying “I’m glad to be working with people I trust or I’m glad you guys got my back”... ughhh

If that FBI chick makes an appearance to say Anything about Oliver being the Arrow... I’m calling Fucking Horseshit. And if Wild dog makes another snide comment about working with Arrow... I’m punching the screen. You were basically begging to work with Oliver. It was only because of Oliver and Quentin that he was able to see his daughter.. then he screwed it up and then they came through again and he now he is seeing her.. So what do you do? You take a fucking deal to snitch on Oliver without telling any of these people and now you are bitching at him because you feel betrayed...

Nigga... you get the Martin Face for this shit.

How does Terrific and Dana know he hasnt snitched them out and then why are any of you bitching at Oliver when both groups need to be working together since you have an entire group of villains that knows the identities of all of you bitiches. Act like adults and get over this shit until the threat has passed.



The only fucking saving grace for this season is that the fighting is the best this show has ever done. I mean movie quality Level fight scenes.



But next season... Arrow is going to need a Fucking reboot. Kill of some characters and strip the team down to the bones.
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good lord that was great post.

that was like closing arguments!
 
@fonzerrillii

and sad part?

I ACTUALLY like Oliver son

even the Laurel and her Dad stuff isn't HORRIBLE

Felicity working with Oliver and being married ACTUALLY works

I like the Diggle new hand thing too

and it STILL sucks?

this season is complete and utter sh*t

cancel this bitch
 
you know what would be the ONLY way to save this?

Make it like the other computer hacker girl, wild dog and terrific ex-husband are all actually working with Caden

and Felicity father has to save the day and he KILLS Caden because he hacked into Diggle hand and hurt Felicity by hacking her spinal chip

Oliver goes crazy fakes his death because Caden kills his son

Diggle is Arrow now.

Oliver travels the country discovering heroes each week and forms a justice league of sorts (the last hero is Kyle R. green lantern) by the finale to fight a big bad

Show is over

give Dig and Felicity and Speedy ... Captain Cold contracts for the next 3 years so they jump between all the WB shows

done
 
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fonzerrillii said:
Yeap... they have this cool tech Villian that has literally been four steps behind him and yet he has Zero weight to his actions. I have no clue what dude wants and why any of these guys would be working for him. He is this amazing tech guy and yet he is fooled by an obvious fake video of dude killing his son. I mean Arrow was in another city recruiting Black Canary.. he did shit in that city. Like that’s easy shit to see.. at least enough shit to make one question... hmmm maybe someone is trying to play me.

The other issue is that there is obviously a bigger threat out there masterminding this shit... when they hell are going to see this person. WILL WE EVEN SEE THIS PERSON THIS YEAR..

The way Arrow has gone the last 3 seasons we will not know who this person is until Season 7 and on the real... that should be the last Season. The last threat needs to be a World Killer. Like we know that at some point in the future Argus runs things... so let Season 7 be that Season. Have Amanda Waller rise from grave and Be like.. all you bitches are puppets. I manipulated all of this so I could get the Vigilante act passed across the nation so the government would give Argus complete control to inforce it..


Argus would be the biggest threat Team Arrow has ever seen.. It would open up crossovers. It would put everyone on track to prevent the furture seen on Legends. We know that Rip stashed a bunch of weapons on board the wave runner and that Barry was the one to tell Rip about it. Maybe that’s the moment that Barry was talking about.


I don’t know.. I’m throwing out shit but something must be done.
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you realize Caden could be the same damn villain on the Flash right?

and your idea is brillant
 
I like Black Lightning because it has a black cast but I see it falling into the Berlanti verse curse very soon...the curse of just NOT saying simple shit to people.

The oldest daughter has manifested these fucking powers and her mother says something seems different with you and that would be most people would say , yeah some weird shit is happening to me...I got Superpowers. Six episodes of angst and lies are cut down to the bone...your father and I have something to tell you, more angst cut-down. Then we have a bare-bones straight to the heart series where the father and daughter team up right away.

So connecting it back to Arrow - no one wants to say anything to anyone because no one wants to say shit to anyone else.

Flash is the same way - I think the only show that doesn't suffer with it as much is SuperGirl. They suffer more from romance angst - ugh

Berlanti = Angstville
 
I've said this many times,they should kept the Prometheus character til the end..... It's obviously,he was the show last season.

They went to a great character to this bullshit..
 
Winslow Wong said:
I still like this show but 22 episodes seasons are now exhausting - especially with the same adversary - I just watched Altered Carbon and I think 10 episodes are perfect - TV network shows should change the model and do 2 10 episodes season a year but make them distinct seasons - they have a version of the Fall premiere Winter premier but in most cases it just a break in the continuing story. The stories just drag on

Just a thought
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All these shows need to do the Agents of Shield Route and split the Seasons into 3 mini seasons. Its perfect for Superhero shows because you can have three different threats... Like 2 mini threats and the back in are the Big bad. Especially with the way these shows take these 4 to 6 week breaks.
 
playahaitian said:
@fonzerrillii

and sad part?

I ACTUALLY like Oliver son

even the Laurel and her Dad stuff isn't HORRIBLE

Felicity working with Oliver and being married ACTUALLY works

I like the Diggle new hand thing too

and it STILL sucks?

this season is complete and utter sh*t

cancel this bitch
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Fam I'm going to be real with you... The son sucks.

Like the dude playing him is a horrible kid actor. There are alot of emotions that need to conveyed and this kid just can't do them.

Either they are going to have to kill his son of this season, replace him, or Oliver is going to have train the kid to become his new Speedie

Which they are going to need to do anyway... You have an army of bad guys that know who Oliver is and know that he has a son... Why not just kill the kid.

Dude is riding on a basic school bus with Zero protection. ZERO!!..
 
ansatsusha_gouki said:
I've said this many times,they should kept the Prometheus character til the end..... It's obviously,he was the show last season.

They went to a great character to this bullshit..
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To be on the real... You could technically end arrow with the way the Season ended last year. Everything was basically wrapped up.

These seasons are basically the extended tales.
 
Winslow Wong said:
I like Black Lightning because it has a black cast but I see it falling into the Berlanti verse curse very soon...the curse of just NOT saying simple shit to people.

The oldest daughter has manifested these fucking powers and her mother says something seems different with you and that would be most people would say , yeah some weird shit is happening to me...I got Superpowers. Six episodes of angst and lies are cut down to the bone...your father and I have something to tell you, more angst cut-down. Then we have a bare-bones straight to the heart series where the father and daughter team up right away.

So connecting it back to Arrow - no one wants to say anything to anyone because no one wants to say shit to anyone else.

Flash is the same way - I think the only show that doesn't suffer with it as much is SuperGirl. They suffer more from romance angst - ugh

Berlanti = Angstville
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Since Season 1... Legends has been pretty good with not holding back any secrets... but I completely agree with you on other shows.
 
fonzerrillii said:
Fam I'm going to be real with you... The son sucks.

Like the dude playing him is a horrible kid actor. There are alot of emotions that need to conveyed and this kid just can't do them.

Either they are going to have to kill his son of this season, replace him, or Oliver is going to have train the kid to become his new Speedie

Which they are going to need to do anyway... You have an army of bad guys that know who Oliver is and know that he has a son... Why not just kill the kid.

Dude is riding on a basic school bus with Zero protection. ZERO!!..
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I thought he was bad too

but I thought there was something a little something heroic in that school bus scene...
 
fonzerrillii said:
Since Season 1... Legends has been pretty good with not holding back any secrets... but I completely agree with you on other shows.
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@Winslow Wong your Black Lightning critique was ON POINT...

I mentioned in the main thread...

I wouldn't have shown the daughter's powers SO SOON...

And why not have a love triangle between the the 3 girls (which could potentially mirror and/or parallel that conflict Black Lightning has with his love of his wife and his love of the hero life)

I hate spoon fed sh*t or FORCED color by numbers dialogue or reactions (which is why SHIELD is so f*cking good, they break those tropes every episode)

Arrow did JUST that with Prometheus

@fonzerrillii can you find out who the MAIN writer of that season?

Cause this season is a badly watered down version.

I don't FEEL anything for ANYONE.

Last season I was focused on EVERYTHING..

now I am focused too

cause I can;t believe how bad this is.

NOTHING makes sense.

Supergirl is finally running on all cylinders, Flash got its mojo back, I'm worried about Legends but I have hope cause that dude who plays Constantine is one HELL of an actor

sidebar Constantine should write a 4 page letter of thanks to us fans (and the dude who plays Arrow) for giving him a DAMN career defining opportunity.
 
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couldn't they create a series called Arrow Adventures where Oliver, Diggle and Felicity travel across the country finding metas and sh*t?
 
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Ok so far this has been the best epsiode of the season...

But the son needs to Die... like now...


Luckily we are only on epsiode 13... there is still time to fix this mess
 
I mean Vigilante killed a lot of people and was working with Prometheus last season... Dana needs to get over it.


But this kid needs to die...

The only saving grace would be if the kid is compromised and set this shit up as revenge for blaming Oliver for killing his mom. That would be nice
 
What the Fuck is this kid doing here at this meet up... man this kid better be compromised.


If not ... this episode is ruined

The tension is nice. The flashbacks were fantastic but gawd damn Ollie’s son has to die.
 
Man this shit started out with so much potential and gawd damn it.. they fucked it up. Shit devolved into a gawddamn mess.

The damn kid has to die.. if this is what they are going to do... he’s got sta go.
 
Well Cayden is arrested... looks like we are back to Oliver on Trial and Team Arrow Drama. Without a clue who the main guy is...

Please be Argus!!! Do not let this be League of Assassins shit.
 
So it’s Diaz.... granted I’m glad and in the comics he is a big player... but there was no set up. It was obvious that it was him. Like your plan made no sense.. Cayden James was literally going to blow the city up. The only reason he didn’t was because Oliver’s son randomly walked to the Warehouse (like so many questions on how he got there so far) and warmed Cayden Icy heart. If it wasn’t for that.. he was going to blow the town up. What was the Fucking point of this.. the only reason why you guys had a chance was Cayden’s tech skills and then you just kill dude. Now you are just a regular Villian who got captured by a gay dude and a short Hispanic dude with guns. How are you a match for Oliver.

And then next episode looks like it’s a fuckin civil war... man im seriously close to quitting. If it wasn’t for the masterpiece of last season I would have quit months ago. I’m still holding out hope for something to change. I’m begging you... give me something or let this show die.
 
So OK I see my brother @fonzerrillii did his live

So my turn

this some old BULLSH*T

so Dinah does the same exact crap that they all claimed they HATED Oliver for but because she said "love" its ok?

the writers need to be fired
 
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