After enduring 400 days of possible xenophobia, the Asian community has gotten funds allocated to them

[Gods_Debris]

biden meeting with a bubblegum pop boy band who don't even live in america...is taken seriously and given validity by YOU....why??? why is that not performative and jiust some shallow photo op to burnish their image for their asian american fans and designed to make them look like they give a fuck??

if a president met with a pop group from Africa you would laff and howl at that shit and go on a rant about what does that have to do with ADOS and how in fact its a slight to ADOS because there are more serious BLACK AMERICAN people the president should be meeting with to discuss the issues with.

cmon dude

and why are others bandwagoning on that shit?

Bro, this is a terrible analogy and therein lies the reason you are out of touch. ADOS are not African immigrants. We dont have cousins aunts and uncles thay we can call and write back and share culture with. Your ignorance in this matter is insulting to intelligent discourse.

Asian culture and politics is pressing and relevant to asian americans, none of those those linkages of ADOS to Africans even exist.

 

[Joe Money]

@VAiz4hustlaz you see this shit?
If Camille is the LB of the defense? Hoechie gatta be the SS on some Ronnie Lott shit.

Don't give geechie a hard time man! He knows you're right. He know we're right. He knows that ADOS is the right political orientation we should be following. Hell, he even dissed Haitians.

Unfortunately, he still has that Pavlovian dog-like response to anything he perceives as being critical of Biden and the Dems.

 

[geechiedan]

Bro, this is a terrible analogy and therein lies the reason you are out of touch. ADOS are not African immigrants. We dont have cousins aunts and uncles thay we can call and write back and share culture with. Your ignorance in this matter is insulting to intelligent discourse.

Asian culture and politics is pressing and relevant to asian americans, none of those those linkages of ADOS to Africans even exist.

you think south koreans and american asians in general are the same or have the same links??? seriously??

you think a south korean boy band who balked at singing songs in english have concerns for chinese, japanese, filipinos, vietnamese etc american citizens???

you think south koreans fully accept americanized korean americans?? that they don't see them as something different?

and you think a BOY BAND talking to the president means something significant???

 

[Supersav]

@VAiz4hustlaz you see this shit?
If Camille is the LB of the defense? Hoechie gatta be the SS on some Ronnie Lott shit.

Lmao he's Bruce bowen

 

[geechiedan]

Don't give geechie a hard time man! He knows you're right. He know we're right. He knows that ADOS is the right political orientation we should be following. Hell, he even dissed Haitians.

Unfortunately, he still has that Pavlovian dog-like response to anything he perceives as being critical of Biden and the Dems.

right about what in this "issue"? A boy band having a photo op with the president?? tell me...wjhat do you think is going to happen now that biden and bts met behind closed doors?

 

[Camille]

@VAiz4hustlaz you see this shit?
If Camille is the LB of the defense? Hoechie gatta be the SS on some Ronnie Lott shit.

Keep my name out of your font.

 

[Gods_Debris]

you think south koreans and american asians in general are the same or have the same links??? seriously??

you think a south korean boy band who balked at singing songs in english have concerns for chinese, japanese, filipinos, vietnamese etc american citizens???

you think south koreans fully accept americanized korean americans?? that they don't see them as something different?

and you think a BOY BAND talking to the president means something significant???

Da fux? Change the game? That's your plan? YOU said African so I said Asian. Kinda bullshit are you on, fam? Wait, don't say, I already know.

 

[geechiedan]

Da fux? Change the game? That's your plan? YOU said African so I said Asian. Kinda bullshit are you on, fam? Wait, don't say, I already know.

even if I said ghana for instance what different does it make to the over all point??

since when has a celeb photo op with the presdent ever meant anything serious??? you haven't addressed that point.

what happened to the commission that steve harvey and ben carson where supposed to be heading under trump?? how many meetings did jim brown have with trump?? what was the results??/

why is bts meeting biden being taken seriously here??? whats the difference??? I'll wait for @VAiz4hustlaz @Soul On Ice @Supersav to chime in since they clearly believe its a game changer in some way....

 

[Joe Money]

even if I said ghana for instance what different does it make to the over all point??

since when has a celeb photo op with the presdent ever meant anything serious??? you haven't addressed that point.

what happened to the commission that steve harvey and ben carson where supposed to be heading under trump?? how many meetings did jim brown have with trump?? what was the results??/

why is bts meeting biden being taken seriously here??? whats the difference??? I'll wait for @VAiz4hustlaz @Soul On Ice @Supersav to chime in since they clearly believe its a game changer in some way....

Who said it was a "game-changer"?

 

[geechiedan]

Who said it was a "game-changer"?

clearly it means something or at least @Soul On Ice thinks it means something or he wouldn't have bothered to post it.

and you chimed in at his request and said you two were right....

He knows you're right. He know we're right.

right about what in regards to bts meeting biden and its political significance??

 

[Soul On Ice]

right about what in this "issue"? A boy band having a photo op with the president?? tell me...wjhat do you think is going to happen now that biden and bts met behind closed doors?

They already got hate bill passed and the 100 million dollars..
Don't be shocked when they get more shit breh announced.

 

[Joe Money]

clearly it means something or at least @Soul On Ice thinks it means something or he wouldn't have bothered to post it.

and you chimed in at his request and said you two were right....

Neither he nor I said it was a "game-changer." It's simply indicative of how Biden and the Dems will center any and every other group's specific concerns except ours.

And that's what you know we're right about. There's no shame in admitting that.

 

[geechiedan]

They already got hate bill passed and the 100 million dollars..
Don't be shocked when they get more shit breh announced.

you mean the crime bill that....

the asian hate crime bill seems designed for revised data collecting and making sure asians are included in the data..the money allocated seems to be for creating programs that educate about hate crimes and inclusion of AAPI.

Over 75 Asian, LGBTQ groups oppose anti-Asian hate crimes bill
Shawna Chen

Photo: Dania Maxwell/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images


More than 75 Asian and LGBTQ organizations issued a statement Wednesday rejecting the anti-Asian hate crime bill that recently soared through the Senate.
Why it matters: The groups say the bill will bolster law enforcement and further harm marginalized people. Their opposition reflects a fracture among Asian Americans as the community looks to address a yearlong spike in anti-Asian hate.

• The bill, backed by prominent AAPI Congress members, including Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) and Rep. Judy Chu (D-Calif.), aims to improve hate crime tracking and train police to better identify anti-Asian hate.
• Lawmakers have denied criticisms that the bill reinforces policing. The House is expected to take up the bill in mid-May and will likely send the legislation to President Biden, who has said he would sign it.

What they're saying: In Wednesday's statement, published on writer Jenn Fang's blog, "Reappropriate," activists called the bill a contradiction of "Asian solidarity with Black, Brown, undocumented, trans, low-income, sex worker, and other marginalized communities whose liberation is bound together."

• The bill does not create "systemic change" and only increases "crime statistics collection," the organizations write.
• Relying on crime statistics does not actually prevent violence, they argue, pointing to the 2009 Matthew Shepard Act.
  • The Matthew Shepard Act expanded federal hate crime categories to include sexual orientation and gender identity, but the statement notes that the U.S. continues to see high rates of deadly anti-trans violence.
• Bolstering law enforcement "ignores that police violence is also anti-Asian violence, which has disproportionately targeted Black and Brown Asians," they write.
  • The statement cites the deaths of Christian Hall and Angelo Quinto, Asian Americans who were recently killed by police during mental health crises.

The organizations called on members of Congress to oppose the legislation and instead shift resources from law enforcement to communities.

• Investing in non-carceral alternatives and removing police presence from neighborhoods are among their demands.

The big picture: In 16 of the country's largest cities and counties, reports of anti-Asian hate crimes have surged 164% since this time last year, according to a recent study from the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at Cal State University San Bernardino.

Over 75 Asian, LGBTQ groups announce opposition to anti-Asian hate crimes bill

Bolstering law enforcement would only hurt Asian communities' most vulnerable members, they say.

www.axios.com

we already went thru that....on page 6 of this very thread dude....

So it's symbolic bullshit? Still better then telling black voters you will do shit and doing nothing.

YOU liked this post

Nigga please...if that's the case then you should be doing backflips for any symbolic bullshit thing ever, done and to come the way you guys played this shit up

Symbolic gestures mean nothing you've said as much in the past..NOW its better than blah blah blah...GTFOH.

You're bullshit is exposed we all can see it..

so YOU @Soul On Ice and @Supersav are on record as being GOOD WITH SYMBOLIC GESTURES. Which means you should be HAPPY about the upcoming Juneteenth holiday. You two should NOT be offended or complainy about that symbolic gesture...correct? (its yes or no answer)

 

[geechiedan]

Neither he nor I said it was a "game-changer." It's simply indicative of how Biden and the Dems will center any and every other group's specific concerns except ours.

And that's what you know we're right about. There's no shame in admitting that.

what center??...its a photo op.. Its no different than what treump did with taking pics and meetings with retired athletes and rappers... again whats the political/actionable significance beyond some shallow performative/symbolic gesture do you think this meeting will have for the asian community???

I'll wait....

 

[Joe Money]

what center??...its a photo op.. Its no different than what treump did with taking pics and meetings with retired athletes and rappers... again whats the political/actionable significance beyond some shallow performative/symbolic gesture do you think this meeting will have for the asian community???

I'll wait....

Geechie!! One day....one DAY.......ONE DAY you will connect all the dots!!

The Supreme Court case that could end affirmative action, explained

The Supreme Court case that could end affirmative action, explained

A case challenging Harvard’s admissions policy gives a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court the vehicle it needs to end race-conscious admissions.

www.vox.com

 

[geechiedan]

Geechie!! One day....one DAY.......ONE DAY you will connect all the dots!!

The Supreme Court case that could end affirmative action, explained

The Supreme Court case that could end affirmative action, explained

A case challenging Harvard’s admissions policy gives a 6-3 conservative Supreme Court the vehicle it needs to end race-conscious admissions.

www.vox.com

sooo you admit bts has absolutely nothing to do with political activism

 

[TIMEISMONEY]

I guess Anti-Blackness is cooked into the sauce of America, it's as natural as mayonnaise and waving the American flag to white folks.....

Everybody knows it.

 

[World B Free]

Everybody knows it.

Knowing is not the point, doing something about it is the point.

 

[Megatron X]

Neither he nor I said it was a "game-changer." It's simply indicative of how Biden and the Dems will center any and every other group's specific concerns except ours.

And that's what you know we're right about. There's no shame in admitting that.

The democrats blatantly help these other groups to purposely throw it in ados face.

 

[Joe Money]

sooo you admit bts has absolutely nothing to do with political activism

BTS is playing a role in constructing the narrative. So yes, it does pertain to political activism.

I honestly think it is all going over your head, and that’s okay.

 

[geechiedan]

BTS is playing a role in constructing the narrative. So yes, it does pertain to political activism.

I honestly think it is all going over your head, and that’s okay.

so that means jim brown and kanye west and steve harvey played the same roll.....tell me what were the results for them and what do you think the results for bts will be??

 

[TIMEISMONEY]

Knowing is not the point, doing something about it is the point.

True.

 

[pimp1101]

biden meeting with a bubblegum pop boy band who don't even live in america...is taken seriously and given validity by YOU....why??? why is that not performative and jiust some shallow photo op to burnish their image for their asian american fans and designed to make them look like they give a fuck??

if a president met with a pop group from Africa you would laff and howl at that shit and go on a rant about what does that have to do with ADOS and how in fact its a slight to ADOS because there are more serious BLACK AMERICAN people the president should be meeting with to discuss the issues with.

cmon dude

and why are others bandwagoning on that shit?

"Korean pop superstars @BTS_twt stopped by the White House press briefing before a meeting with President Biden to discuss anti-Asian hate crimes and discrimination"

 

[Joe Money]

so that means jim brown and kanye west and steve harvey played the same roll.....tell me what were the results for them and what do you think the results for bts will be??

What were they meeting with Trump about?

 

[Joe Money]

"Korean pop superstars @BTS_twt stopped by the White House press briefing before a meeting with President Biden to discuss anti-Asian hate crimes and discrimination"

Don't waste your time man. He simply doesn't get it.

 

[geechiedan]

What were they meeting with Trump about?

According to reports, West and Brown were initially invited by Trump to discuss an opioid crisis he believes is destroying communities across the country. But West alluded to reporters before the meeting started that he was there to discuss his ideas of social reform.

Don't waste your time man. He simply doesn't get it.

well... trump meets with black celebs and biden meets with asian celebs.... both to discuss agendas affecting their people. but some how the asians is better right??

 

[Joe Money]

According to reports, West and Brown were initially invited by Trump to discuss an opioid crisis he believes is destroying communities across the country. But West alluded to reporters before the meeting started that he was there to discuss his ideas of social reform.

Nothing about those meetings was about the opioid crisis. Those meetings weren't about anything at all.........and you know this.

Why are you being hard-headed and contrarian about a topic you actually agree with us about and you've said as much in the past?

 

[Gods_Debris]

you mean the crime bill that....





we already went thru that....on page 6 of this very thread dude....


YOU liked this post

so YOU @Soul On Ice and @Supersav are on record as being GOOD WITH SYMBOLIC GESTURES. Which means you should be HAPPY about the upcoming Juneteenth holiday. You two should NOT be offended or complainy about that symbolic gesture...correct? (its yes or no answer)

They got a crime bill. What kind of nigga are you to down black folks wanting equal protection under the law? This is wild. Look at yourself.

 

[geechiedan]

They got a crime bill. What kind of nigga are you to down black folks wanting equal protection under the law? This is wild. Look at yourself.

read exactly wants in that crime bill... don't just go by the title.

 

[geechiedan]

Nothing about those meetings was about the opioid crisis. Those meetings weren't about anything at all.........and you know this.

Why are you being hard-headed and contrarian about a topic you actually agree with us about and you've said as much in the past?

thats what was reported...but hey if thats not good enough remember trump appointed steve harvey to a commission he's a black celeb and had meetings with the president....how'd that go??

 

[Joe Money]

thats what was reported...but hey if thats not good enough remember trump appointed steve harvey to a commission he's a black celeb and had meetings with the president....how'd that go??

Reported where? It’s not in the link you posted.

And what pressing legislation had recently passed and prominent Supreme Court cases being argued that were relevant to anything Steve Harvey was meeting with Trump about?

 

[geechiedan]

Reported where? It’s not in the link you posted.

And what pressing legislation had recently passed and prominent Supreme Court cases being argued that were relevant to anything Steve Harvey was meeting with Trump about?

you see what your doing??

the media reports bts is meeting with the president and you and soul on ice think its meaningful and indicative of how blacks are ignored

I bring up how the past president met with black celebs and you dismiss it

the media reports that bts is to address crime and discrimination buts its closed door meeting... you take it at face value

the media reported that jim brown and kanye had a closed door meeting with president to discuss social issues and such....you dismiss it

you see how easily you accept on the surface whens its nonblack yet scrutinize minutely when its black...

I ask again..what makes you think the bts meeting is meaningful??

 

[Soul On Ice]

They got a crime bill. What kind of nigga are you to down black folks wanting equal protection under the law? This is wild. Look at yourself.

 

[Joe Money]

you see what your doing??

the media reports bts is meeting with the president and you and soul on ice think its meaningful and indicative of how blacks are ignored

I bring up how the past president met with black celebs and you dismiss it

the media reports that bts is to address crime and discrimination buts its closed door meeting... you take it at face value

the media reported that jim brown and kanye had a closed door meeting with president to discuss social issues and such....you dismiss it

you see how easily you accept on the surface whens its nonblack yet scrutinize minutely when its black...

I ask again..what makes you think the bts meeting is meaningful??

you see what your doing??

the media reports bts is meeting with the president and you and soul on ice think its meaningful and indicative of how blacks are ignored

I bring up how the past president met with black celebs and you dismiss it

the media reports that bts is to address crime and discrimination buts its closed door meeting... you take it at face value

the media reported that jim brown and kanye had a closed door meeting with president to discuss social issues and such....you dismiss it

you see how easily you accept on the surface whens its nonblack yet scrutinize minutely when its black...

I ask again..what makes you think the bts meeting is meaningful??

I asked two questions above…..neither of which you answered! And now you’re asking me a question again……that I’ve already fucking answered!!! And I’m not even the only one to answer it for you!!! Make it make sense geechie!!



BTS met with Biden specifically about the issue of anti-Asian discrimination. An issue that has 1) been prominent in the news; 2) that has a specific piece of legislation passed because of it, 3) and has a forthcoming Supreme Court case about it!!

This is not the same as the meetings Trump had with Black celebs, since none of those pertained to any such pressing issues!! If Trump had met with a Black celeb specifically about police brutality during a time police reform legislation was moving through or had recently been passed by Congress or a case pertaining to the issue were before the Supreme Court, then you’d have a comparable analogy and your point would make sense.

But as it stands now, you’re comparison is silly and myopic. As I said earlier, you simply don’t get it. So leave it alone!

 

[geechiedan]

I asked two questions above…..neither of which you answered! And now you’re asking me a question again……that I’ve already fucking answered!!! And I’m not even the only one to answer it for you!!! Make it make sense geechie!!



BTS met with Biden specifically about the issue of anti-Asian discrimination. An issue that has 1) been prominent in the news; 2) that has a specific piece of legislation passed because of it, 3) and has a forthcoming Supreme Court case about it!!

This is not the same as the meetings Trump had with Black celebs, since none of those pertained to any such pressing issues!! If Trump had met with a Black celeb specifically about police brutality during a time police reform legislation was moving through or had recently been passed by Congress or a case pertaining to the issue were before the Supreme Court, then you’d have a comparable analogy and your point would make sense.

But as it stands now, you’re comparison is silly and myopic. As I said earlier, you simply don’t get it. So leave it alone!

The specific piece of legislation that passed had to do with data reporting and stat keeping. And many asian activist groups say its not enough and not effective. Essentialy saying its just sympbolic or some half assed measure but you ignore that too.

SCOTUS has been debating the length and effectiveness of affirmative action since is inception. Elements of it has been struck down over the decades long before this rise in Asian awareness. Over the decades cacs have been USING asians as fodder to strike down AA in school admissions. none of this is anything new or different you should know this. that issue would go down whether or not bts met with any president. If anything theyre just jumping on a bandwagon...one that needs an interpreter to help them speak on it since only one of them even speaks english.