After enduring 400 days of possible xenophobia, the Asian community has gotten funds allocated to them

geechiedan

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No, but if they do THEYRE PROTECTED. They just charged a sista in NY for yelling in one of their stores!
This whole thing about them getting lumped up is obviously some BS.
Once again, my problem is that they damn near instantly got laws passed and resources allocated to their group in 400 days.

Its people like you who'll be happy with a farm bill and think thats equal to what they got and think thats all we need. FOH
Ohio Man Charged After Verbal Attack on Black Delivery Driver Went Viral
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BREAKING: James Rhodes of Stow, OH was just arrested & charged with aggravated menacing & ethnic intimidation (felony) after verbally attacking a black woman, who was delivering food with her 2yo child, b/c she’s black & saying he’d kill her.

She recorded him.

 

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Don't be upset about it.

Asians ain't never assimilated. They own their communities. In some cities, only Asian police are allowed to patrol Chinatown.

You ain't never seen no Arabs stores in their communities. they have businesses and they support them. They keep their money circulating in their communities. They have financial and political clout as a community, so yeah they can get shit done.

Mexicans do the same thing.

Now they never had their language, religion. customs and culture beat and murdered out of them and that's the advantage they have.
You ain't never lied....Preach
 

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Ohio Man Charged After Verbal Attack on Black Delivery Driver Went Viral
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BREAKING: James Rhodes of Stow, OH was just arrested & charged with aggravated menacing & ethnic intimidation (felony) after verbally attacking a black woman, who was delivering food with her 2yo child, b/c she’s black & saying he’d kill her.

She recorded him.


The Asian Hate crime bill did this? This wouldn’t have happened under any administration? He’ll, Derek Chauvin was arrested under Trump and we still don’t know how they’ll let him slide under Biden.
 

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Don't be upset about it.

Asians ain't never assimilated. They own their communities. In some cities, only Asian police are allowed to patrol Chinatown.

You ain't never seen no Arabs stores in their communities. they have businesses and they support them. They keep their money circulating in their communities. They have financial and political clout as a community, so yeah they can get shit done.

Mexicans do the same thing.

Now they never had their language, religion. customs and culture beat and murdered out of them and that's the advantage they have.

The only issue I take with that post is the bold.. The biggest source of revenue in china towns is TOURISM. Its not a coincidence that every 3rd, 5th, and 7th business in any china town are restaurants, hotels, and curio shops. Those motherfuckers been pimpin interest and fetish for Asian culture since they were allowed back into the country.**

Thats the case for many immigrant and ethnic communities. You want authentic ethnic foods or souvenirs you have to go to those communities to get them. Its not JUST their own money circulating in their community it's YOUR MONEY circulating there too! We REALLY need to stop perpetuating this notion that black-owned businesses fail because black people don't support them enough. It's just NOT true. The black community and businesses NEED an influx of outside money flowing in. Just like china towns and little cuba and greek town etc get.
















**due to racism and xenophobia like the Chinese Exclusion Act, a loophole in the immigration law caused a boom and proliferation of Chinese restaurants.
 

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The Asian Hate crime bill did this? This wouldn’t have happened under any administration? He’ll, Derek Chauvin was arrested under Trump and we still don’t know how they’ll let him slide under Biden.
the asian hate crime bill seems designed for revised data collecting and making sure asians are included in the data..the money allocated seems to be for creating programs that educate about hate crimes and inclusion of AAPI.
 

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The Asian Hate crime bill did this? This wouldn’t have happened under any administration? He’ll, Derek Chauvin was arrested under Trump and we still don’t know how they’ll let him slide under Biden.


Derrick Chavin was arrested because black States Attorney Keith Ellison made it happen...The local White DA didn't want to pursue charges.

And the federal DOJ under Bidens administration is seeking charges.

He wasn't arrested or charged federally and Trump said he opposed the charges and conviction so be honest when you post

The Asian crime bill didn't do shit in regards to Chavin.
 

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The only issue I take with that post is the bold.. The biggest source of revenue in china towns is TOURISM. Its not a coincidence that every 3rd, 5th, and 7th business in any china town are restaurants, hotels, and curio shops. Those motherfuckers been pimpin interest and fetish for Asian culture since they were allowed back into the country.**

Thats the case for many immigrant and ethnic communities. You want authentic ethnic foods or souvenirs you have to go to those communities to get them. Its not JUST their own money circulating in their community it's YOUR MONEY circulating there too! We REALLY need to stop perpetuating this notion that black-owned businesses fail because black people don't support them enough. It's just NOT true. The black community and businesses NEED an influx of outside money flowing in. Just like china towns and little cuba and greek town etc get.
















**due to racism and xenophobia like the Chinese Exclusion Act, a loophole in the immigration law caused a boom and proliferation of Chinese restaurants.


That may be all well and good so tell me what tourist attractions are the draw in Black communities. There are scattered restaurants that are tourist attractions across the country.

And even if you subtract tourism, it is still the businesses in the communities that are owned operated and patronized inside the communities that I was referring to.

The everyday businesses and services.....In Asian, Hispanic, and Arab communities those businesses are owned and operated by them and not those from outside the community There are times we fight that those outsiders hire people from the community instead of fighting to own and patronize those businesses ourselves.
 

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Proud Boys saw wave of contributions from Chinese diaspora before Capitol attack
You see the Asian attacks in the media, and for sec there - one would think the media was suggesting these attacks came from black folk.

Now this comes out - I don't a television so I'm curious has anyone seen any of the news channel even remotely touch on this :hmm: ?
 

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Why over 85 Asian American, LGBTQ groups opposed the anti-Asian hate crimes bill

May 14, 2021, 3:30 PM EDT
By Kimmy Yam

Dozens of Asian American and LGBTQ groups have raised concerns around the Covid-19 Hate Crimes Act, which passed in the Senate last month with nearly unanimous support.

More than 85 organizations, which range from the civic engagement nonprofit 18 Million Rising to the National Queer Asian Pacific Islander Alliance, a federation of Asian American LGBTQ organizations, released a statement this week in opposition to the legislation. The bill, which would in part direct the Department of Justice to expedite the review of hate crimes related to Covid-19 and bolster law enforcement to better collect data on such crimes, is expected to be taken up by the House this month and has already received support from President Joe Biden.

But the groups argue that the legislation fails to provide resources to address the causes of anti-Asian bias and, in turn, ignores police violence against Black and brown communities.

“What we're trying to do is we're calling for a redistribution of wealth and resources into things like health care, and housing, social services, because we know that’s at the root of the violence that we see in our communities, is due to inequality,” Jason Wu, co-chair of the GAPIMNY-Empowering Queer & Trans Asian Pacific Islanders, which helped spearhead the statement, told NBC Asian America. “The things that will keep us safe require us to think more long term and systemically about what the root causes of violence are.”

In the statement, the groups argued that “relying on law enforcement and crime statistics does not prevent violence,” citing the continued violence against trans people despite hate crime measures that should protect them. According to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 44 transgender or gender-nonconforming people were fatally shot or killed by other violent means in 2020 alone. The majority of the victims were Black and Latinx transgender women.

The organizations also point out that a great deal of violence comes at the hands of law enforcement. A study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences cited police violence as the leading cause of death for young men in the U.S. Roughly 1 in every 1,000 Black men can expect to be killed by police, the researchers found.

“Hate crime classifications and statistics do not change the structural conditions that lead to violence against marginalized communities,” the statement reads.

In the context of the ongoing attacks on Asian Americans related to the pandemic, Wu said that law enforcement has not been helpful, or preventative.

“What the police do is that they show up afterwards, and they issue press releases. And they really take these horrific moments of pain and trauma, and they use it to demand more money for their budgets,” Wu said. “When we know that more policing and prisons is not keeping us safer, why is it that we continue to ask for the same approaches to violence and crime?”

Citing the case of Yao Pan Ma, a 61-year-old Chinese American man who was attacked while collecting cans to support his family — and remains in a coma — along with other victims of anti-Asian violence, Wu explained that many people and their families have had to crowdfund to cover their own health care and other costs, some of the most dire needs. Law enforcement does not aid in many of these critical essentials.
“Hate crimes, prosecution and incarceration of the attacker does nothing to address those needs,” Wu said. “It also doesn't address the reality that, at least in New York City, many of the attacks involve people who do have mental health issues, who are poor, potentially homeless … we have to address inequality in our society.”

Rather than enacting hate crimes legislation, the organizations advocate for a shift in resources from law enforcement to community-based solutions including interventions and noncarceral alternatives. They demanded the removal of police from communities and instead called for investing in mental health care infrastructures, neighborhood trauma centers and community food banks among other programs.
In addition to such programs, the groups advocated for a reframing of bias violence, recognizing the topic as a public health issue and “so that public policy interventions can be based on noncriminal legal research and prevention efforts.”


“This means no partnerships, contracts, and arrangements between law enforcement and other entities, including data-sharing agreements,” the statement read.

It also reinforced the groups’ commitment to reject any solutions that address anti-Asian bias with those that are also “inherently anti-Black, anti-immigrant, and harmful for the most marginalized in our communities.”



Now @Soul On Ice be HONEST the statements and observations made would the EXACT sames ones you would make and have made about any bills or legislation made for black americans. It doesn't go far enough...what it actually does doesn't address the real issues....etc etc..

yet you post social media bullshit as if this is a big win for asians when asians on the ground (much like you are) dont see it as such...

so whats your point really???
 
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Over 75 Asian, LGBTQ groups oppose anti-Asian hate crimes bill
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Photo: Dania Maxwell/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images


More than 75 Asian and LGBTQ organizations issued a statement Wednesday rejecting the anti-Asian hate crime bill that recently soared through the Senate.
Why it matters: The groups say the bill will bolster law enforcement and further harm marginalized people. Their opposition reflects a fracture among Asian Americans as the community looks to address a yearlong spike in anti-Asian hate.
  • The bill, backed by prominent AAPI Congress members, including Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) and Rep. Judy Chu (D-Calif.), aims to improve hate crime tracking and train police to better identify anti-Asian hate.
  • Lawmakers have denied criticisms that the bill reinforces policing. The House is expected to take up the bill in mid-May and will likely send the legislation to President Biden, who has said he would sign it.
What they're saying: In Wednesday's statement, published on writer Jenn Fang's blog, "Reappropriate," activists called the bill a contradiction of "Asian solidarity with Black, Brown, undocumented, trans, low-income, sex worker, and other marginalized communities whose liberation is bound together."
  • The bill does not create "systemic change" and only increases "crime statistics collection," the organizations write.
  • Relying on crime statistics does not actually prevent violence, they argue, pointing to the 2009 Matthew Shepard Act.
    • The Matthew Shepard Act expanded federal hate crime categories to include sexual orientation and gender identity, but the statement notes that the U.S. continues to see high rates of deadly anti-trans violence.
  • Bolstering law enforcement "ignores that police violence is also anti-Asian violence, which has disproportionately targeted Black and Brown Asians," they write.
    • The statement cites the deaths of Christian Hall and Angelo Quinto, Asian Americans who were recently killed by police during mental health crises.
The organizations called on members of Congress to oppose the legislation and instead shift resources from law enforcement to communities.
  • Investing in non-carceral alternatives and removing police presence from neighborhoods are among their demands.
The big picture: In 16 of the country's largest cities and counties, reports of anti-Asian hate crimes have surged 164% since this time last year, according to a recent study from the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at Cal State University San Bernardino.


 

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Why over 85 Asian American, LGBTQ groups opposed the anti-Asian hate crimes bill

May 14, 2021, 3:30 PM EDT
By Kimmy Yam

Dozens of Asian American and LGBTQ groups have raised concerns around the Covid-19 Hate Crimes Act, which passed in the Senate last month with nearly unanimous support.

More than 85 organizations, which range from the civic engagement nonprofit 18 Million Rising to the National Queer Asian Pacific Islander Alliance, a federation of Asian American LGBTQ organizations, released a statement this week in opposition to the legislation. The bill, which would in part direct the Department of Justice to expedite the review of hate crimes related to Covid-19 and bolster law enforcement to better collect data on such crimes, is expected to be taken up by the House this month and has already received support from President Joe Biden.

But the groups argue that the legislation fails to provide resources to address the causes of anti-Asian bias and, in turn, ignores police violence against Black and brown communities.

“What we're trying to do is we're calling for a redistribution of wealth and resources into things like health care, and housing, social services, because we know that’s at the root of the violence that we see in our communities, is due to inequality,” Jason Wu, co-chair of the GAPIMNY-Empowering Queer & Trans Asian Pacific Islanders, which helped spearhead the statement, told NBC Asian America. “The things that will keep us safe require us to think more long term and systemically about what the root causes of violence are.”

In the statement, the groups argued that “relying on law enforcement and crime statistics does not prevent violence,” citing the continued violence against trans people despite hate crime measures that should protect them. According to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 44 transgender or gender-nonconforming people were fatally shot or killed by other violent means in 2020 alone. The majority of the victims were Black and Latinx transgender women.

The organizations also point out that a great deal of violence comes at the hands of law enforcement. A study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences cited police violence as the leading cause of death for young men in the U.S. Roughly 1 in every 1,000 Black men can expect to be killed by police, the researchers found.

“Hate crime classifications and statistics do not change the structural conditions that lead to violence against marginalized communities,” the statement reads.

In the context of the ongoing attacks on Asian Americans related to the pandemic, Wu said that law enforcement has not been helpful, or preventative.

“What the police do is that they show up afterwards, and they issue press releases. And they really take these horrific moments of pain and trauma, and they use it to demand more money for their budgets,” Wu said. “When we know that more policing and prisons is not keeping us safer, why is it that we continue to ask for the same approaches to violence and crime?”

Citing the case of Yao Pan Ma, a 61-year-old Chinese American man who was attacked while collecting cans to support his family — and remains in a coma — along with other victims of anti-Asian violence, Wu explained that many people and their families have had to crowdfund to cover their own health care and other costs, some of the most dire needs. Law enforcement does not aid in many of these critical essentials.
“Hate crimes, prosecution and incarceration of the attacker does nothing to address those needs,” Wu said. “It also doesn't address the reality that, at least in New York City, many of the attacks involve people who do have mental health issues, who are poor, potentially homeless … we have to address inequality in our society.”

Rather than enacting hate crimes legislation, the organizations advocate for a shift in resources from law enforcement to community-based solutions including interventions and noncarceral alternatives. They demanded the removal of police from communities and instead called for investing in mental health care infrastructures, neighborhood trauma centers and community food banks among other programs.
In addition to such programs, the groups advocated for a reframing of bias violence, recognizing the topic as a public health issue and “so that public policy interventions can be based on noncriminal legal research and prevention efforts.”


“This means no partnerships, contracts, and arrangements between law enforcement and other entities, including data-sharing agreements,” the statement read.

It also reinforced the groups’ commitment to reject any solutions that address anti-Asian bias with those that are also “inherently anti-Black, anti-immigrant, and harmful for the most marginalized in our communities.”



Now @Soul On Ice be HONEST the statements and observations made would the EXACT sames ones you would make and have made about any bills or legislation made for black americans. It doesn't go far enough...what it actually does doesn't address the real issues....etc etc..

yet you post social media bullshit as if this is a big win for asians when asians on the ground (much like you are) dont see it as such...

so whats your point really???
So it's symbolic bullshit? Still better then telling black voters you will do shit and doing nothing.
 

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sorry to say, but an asian hate crime bill still won't stop hate crimes against asians.
thats like signing a bill banning all guns,......but everyday people will still get shot and killed.
these bills do absolutely nothing against the people that dont give a fuck about em.
 

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So it's symbolic bullshit? Still better then telling black voters you will do shit and doing nothing.
Nigga please...if that's the case then you should be doing backflips for any symbolic bullshit thing ever, done and to come the way you guys played this shit up

Symbolic gestures mean nothing you've said as much in the past..NOW its better than blah blah blah...GTFOH.

You're bullshit is exposed we all can see it..:hmm::hmm::hmm:
 
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Nigga please...if that's the case then you should be doing backflips for any symbolic bullshit thing ever, done and to come the way you guys played this shit up

Symbolic gestures mean nothing you've said as much in the past..NOW its better than blah blah blah...GTFOH.

You're bullshit is exposed we all can see it..:hmm::hmm::hmm:
They don't mean anything. That makes it even worse
 

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sorry to say, but an asian hate crime bill still won't stop hate crimes against asians.
thats like signing a bill banning all guns,......but everyday people will still get shot and killed.
these bills do absolutely nothing against the people that dont give a fuck about em.

Of course it will stop "asian hate crimes" because the repercussions will actually be enforced.
 

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Over 75 Asian, LGBTQ groups oppose anti-Asian hate crimes bill
Shawna Chen

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Photo: Dania Maxwell/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images


More than 75 Asian and LGBTQ organizations issued a statement Wednesday rejecting the anti-Asian hate crime bill that recently soared through the Senate.
Why it matters: The groups say the bill will bolster law enforcement and further harm marginalized people. Their opposition reflects a fracture among Asian Americans as the community looks to address a yearlong spike in anti-Asian hate.
  • The bill, backed by prominent AAPI Congress members, including Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) and Rep. Judy Chu (D-Calif.), aims to improve hate crime tracking and train police to better identify anti-Asian hate.
  • Lawmakers have denied criticisms that the bill reinforces policing. The House is expected to take up the bill in mid-May and will likely send the legislation to President Biden, who has said he would sign it.
What they're saying: In Wednesday's statement, published on writer Jenn Fang's blog, "Reappropriate," activists called the bill a contradiction of "Asian solidarity with Black, Brown, undocumented, trans, low-income, sex worker, and other marginalized communities whose liberation is bound together."
  • The bill does not create "systemic change" and only increases "crime statistics collection," the organizations write.
  • Relying on crime statistics does not actually prevent violence, they argue, pointing to the 2009 Matthew Shepard Act.
    • The Matthew Shepard Act expanded federal hate crime categories to include sexual orientation and gender identity, but the statement notes that the U.S. continues to see high rates of deadly anti-trans violence.
  • Bolstering law enforcement "ignores that police violence is also anti-Asian violence, which has disproportionately targeted Black and Brown Asians," they write.
    • The statement cites the deaths of Christian Hall and Angelo Quinto, Asian Americans who were recently killed by police during mental health crises.
The organizations called on members of Congress to oppose the legislation and instead shift resources from law enforcement to communities.
  • Investing in non-carceral alternatives and removing police presence from neighborhoods are among their demands.
The big picture: In 16 of the country's largest cities and counties, reports of anti-Asian hate crimes have surged 164% since this time last year, according to a recent study from the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at Cal State University San Bernardino.




I'm not sure of the point you were trying to make here really.
 

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Of course it will stop "asian hate crimes" because the repercussions will actually be enforced.

  • The bill does not create "systemic change" and only increases "crime statistics collection," the organizations write.

whats the repercussions that will be enforced.
 
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I'm not sure of the point you were trying to make here really.
The bill is to address that local law enforcement and state agencies should fully comply with the Hate Crimes Statistics Act, and efforts should be made to include disaggregated data on the Asian American and Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander communities.

none of that addresses the real issues of why it happens and certainly doesn't mean enforcement of any repercussions for hate crimes committed against asians.

those activists groups point that out and frankly ADOS activists SHOULD BE pointing it out as well just like they would if it were a bill with African American in the title.
 
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Of course it will stop "asian hate crimes" because the repercussions will actually be enforced.
dont be naive......
every state has laws on the books for murder, but it doesn't stop murders from happening.
like i said before......people that dont care about bills and laws are going to break them regardless.
just because a speed limit sign may say 55mph......everybody and they mama still gonna do 70.
 

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Cant believe @Hoechiedan in here still coppin pleas and making excuses. Shits pathetic.
Just hold the L bro .


 

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(Article via npr.org) The day that a white mob came to Greenwood Avenue in Tulsa, Okla., Viola Fletcher was just 7 years old. During emotional testimony on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, Fletcher, who is now 107, recalled her memories of the two-day massacre that left hundreds of Black people dead. "I will never forget the violence of the white mob when we left our home. I still see Black men being shot, Black bodies lying in the street. I still smell smoke and see fire. I still see Black businesses being burned. I still hear airplanes flying overhead. I hear the screams," Fletcher told lawmakers. "I have lived through the massacre every day. Our country may forget this history, but I cannot." Fletcher and two other survivors of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre, her younger brother Hughes Van Ellis and Lessie Benningfield Randle, testified before a House Judiciary Subcommittee on Wednesday nearly 100 years to the date of the massacre. Some historians say as many as 300 Black people were killed and another 10,000 were left homeless. Greenwood was destroyed by the attack that was launched on May 31, 1921. The country is currently grappling with systemic racism laid bare by the coronavirus pandemic and the killings of George Floyd and other Black people in encounters with law enforcement. The same committee that heard from the survivors has also been studying reparations for the descendants of millions of enslaved Americans and recently advanced a bill that would create a commission to study the lingering effects of slavery. Fletcher and other survivors are calling for justice. "I am 107 years old and I have never ... seen justice. I pray that one day I will," she said. "I have been blessed with a long life and have seen the best and the worst of this country. I think about the terror inflicted upon black people in this country every day." Survivors of the massacre are plaintiffs in a reparations lawsuit filed last year. The lawsuit argues that the state of Oklahoma and the city of Tulsa are responsible for what happened during the massacre.​
 

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  • The bill does not create "systemic change" and only increases "crime statistics collection," the organizations write.

whats the repercussions that will be enforced.
dont be naive......
every state has laws on the books for murder, but it doesn't stop murders from happening.
like i said before......people that dont care about bills and laws are going to break them regardless.
just because a speed limit sign may say 55mph......everybody and they mama still gonna do 70.

So neither 1 of you have been paying attention the past 6 months or so?

In N.Y and LA alone, they have been enforcing anti hate laws that were SUPPOSE TO BE written for us against US.

This particular law just gives them something to hide behind when they do it!
 

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Cant believe @Hoechiedan in here still coppin pleas and making excuses. Shits pathetic.
Just hold the L bro .



so no real dispute on the facts just name-calling....got it :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
So neither 1 of you have been paying attention the past 6 months or so?

In N.Y and LA alone, they have been enforcing anti hate laws that were SUPPOSE TO BE written for us against US.

This particular law just gives them something to hide behind when they do it!
thats why asian activist groups oppose the bill as not going far enough??
 

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Cant believe @Hoechiedan in here still coppin pleas and making excuses. Shits pathetic.
Just hold the L bro .



soo no actual response to the fact that asian activist groups say the thing doesn't go far enough.. or that data taking is a weak measure.. just name-calling...got it :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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