►►► OFFICIAL UFC 168 - Sat. Dec. 28th - Las Vegas - Silva / Weidman / Rousey / Tate

I respect Rousey s dominance....but...I wish she had more then armbar subs...and I m not sire...correct me if I am wrong...but which ufc champ has done well with the "he hate me" vibe?







Dana has something here that he can pursue with the women s class if he wants....there are some good women in this weight class..



As for Tate...she is at gate keeper ststus but could star in her own rigjt...Dana needs to have her fight 2x this yr once on a fox sports type ufc match with a lesser opponent cause she needs a win for her own mindset....then a ppv undercard against a liz carmouche or McMann maybe even kaufman....



After McMann Zingano should face Rousey..


Remember what you're sayin here about scheduling a fighter as a draw when they've recently lost but havin a draw for reasons other than winning. As much as I am on agreement with you on that----- Chael Sonnen
 
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Miesha Tate acting like this turns me on ...




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Remember what you're sayin here about scheduling a fighter as a draw when they've recently lost but havin a draw for reasons other than winning. As much as I am on agreement with you on that----- Chael Sonnen

Oh i agree fully with you but......

You know like I know the UFC has its champions.....then it has its draws....

and both are necessary....

but look at Uriah Faber....he is now #1 contender again...he probably can t beat Cruz....(I think Cruz is the champ correct?) but he has been a draw these last few big UFC ppv matches....

so I don t know ......
 
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Oh i agree fully with you but......

You know like I know the UFC has its champions.....then it has its draws....

and both are necessary....

but look at Uriah Faber....he is now #1 contender again...he probably can t beat Cruz....(I think Cruz is the champ correct?) but he has been a draw these last few big UFC ppv matches....

so I don t know ......



Yeah - it'll be interesting the next few year or two (or forever) without the marquee draws in place. Lesnar left in late-2011 ... GSP vacated in mid-November ... Anderson suffered the serious injury & subsequent injury in late-December ... those guys were MAJOR PPV DRAWS.

As for guys like Faber ... yeah ... they're poster boy types for the likes of the WEC and UFC. They want someone like him as champ because he's marketable. That said ... he's 1-1 lifetime against Cruz, and 0-1 versus Barao. Barao is the interim champ and has defended his strap. Cruz is the reigning champ in the division (but has been gone for 2+ years already) given his troubles with the ongoing injury rehab. Should be interesting how the BARAO-CRUZ title unification plays out next month ... both guys are legit, but we haven't seen Cruz in so long. As for Faber ... he definitely had a stellar 2013 ... man ... 4-0 for the year, after having only 1 fight in 2012. Like is often said ... he'll pretty much finish off anyone except the champs. His only losses in recent years have been (after owning cats for years prior) ...

- Mike Brown (Nov. 2008)
- Mike Brown (June 2009)
- Jose Aldo (April 2010)
- Dominick Cruz (July 2011)
- Renan Barao (July 2012)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urijah_Faber#Mixed_martial_arts_record

 
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Oh i agree fully with you but......



You know like I know the UFC has its champions.....then it has its draws....



and both are necessary....



but look at Uriah Faber....he is now #1 contender again...he probably can t beat Cruz....(I think Cruz is the champ correct?) but he has been a draw these last few big UFC ppv matches....



so I don t know ......


Yeah. It's just the truth. And Tate is a cool draw. Badass bitch who can actually fight.

And I think she's handled the media pretty gracefully in terms of Ronda. I do think she was a bit arrogant back on strikeforce when Rousey first came in as a contender which made Ronda go full retard on her lmao.


But still there's no questioning Tate's heart. She's got it. She REALLY wants to win. It crushes her that she can't beat Ronda.


Even after the first loss, she got her arm jacked and came back in 3-6 months to fight on the undercard against Zingano. She's not just a pretty face for sure. I hope she gets some dope ass endorsements and makes mad money. And who knows, a few more fights and we may get a part 3. She does a little better every time.
 
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:lol:

I will always go against his picks.


 
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Yeah. It's just the truth. And Tate is a cool draw. Badass bitch who can actually fight.

And I think she's handled the media pretty gracefully in terms of Ronda. I do think she was a bit arrogant back on strikeforce when Rousey first came in as a contender which made Ronda go full retard on her lmao.


But still there's no questioning Tate's heart. She's got it. She REALLY wants to win. It crushes her that she can't beat Ronda.


Even after the first loss, she it her arm jacked and came back in 3-6 months to fight on the undercard against Carmouche. She's not just a pretty face for sure. I hope she gets some dope ass endorsements and makes mad money. And who knows, a few more fights and we may get a part 3. She does a little better every time.

Yeah but if Tate doesn t change her training staff she will continue to get her ass kicked....having her boyfriend as a trainer was good for a time...but now she needs a better group....

Ppl feel that she was arrogant and Tate is no angel she did some dirty stuff against Zingano....but...I think her biggest prob with Rousey was that she felt Rousey didn t pay her dues....I don t agree with that...esp since she went the Olympian route....which is honorable. In its own right....

I do think Dana needs to have atleast 1 - 2 female fights per ppv event though. .he s still underachieving in that regard some....
 
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Great to see the Anderson photo with fam'. Caught it this morning via Facebook & always good to see someone on the mend ... especially after such a traumatic injury & experience. Just over a half week ago ... one of the last remaining photos we saw of him from 168 was people stretchered out screaming in agony ... minutes after the break. That just goes to show you the type of distress he was in ... as he clearly wasn't laying low & in shock ... he needed to visit the local ER asap.
 
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Great to see the Anderson photo with fam'. Caught it this morning via Facebook & always good to see someone on the mend ... especially after such a traumatic injury & experience. Just over a half week ago ... one of the last remaining photos we saw of him from 168 was people stretchered out screaming in agony ... minutes after the break. That just goes to show you the type of distress he was in ... as he clearly wasn't laying low & in shock ... he needed to visit the local ER asap.

Agreed H-Funk - do not count the Spider out yet - that last photo will not be his final time in the ring
 
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Agreed H-Funk - do not count the Spider out yet - that last photo will not be his final time in the ring

Yeah - for someone as proud as him (widely seen as the sport's GOAT) it's a tough lasting image to leave. It would be something if he were to return in a year or two ... and have a final bout (or bouts) to close his legacy. Losing twice in 6 months is not Silva'esque ... especially for a cat who was owning people for YEARS on end. Straight up videogaming people. Speedy recovery wished the way of the big homie. Cool to hear from manager Ed Soares that he's already hinted at a timeframe to return to eventual training later this year ... he has nothing left to prove, but shit - that's what his millions of fans are probably glad to hear :)
 
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really?

You mean the corner of one guy was happy to see the other guy down in the heat of battle?


amazing


Some of the podcasts have been talking about it in recent days. Sounds like Ray Longo's voice (or Chris Weidman's dad, as opposed to Matt Serra or John Danaher, etc). Most are speculating it goes back to the 1st fight and the clowning from Anderson, etc. I.E. - in between rounds 1 and 2 in the 1st fight in July ... Longo saying to him - "Punch a hole through his fucking chest", etc. They got the KO finish in that fight, and the wild, freak injury stoppage in this one and the adrenaline's going & you're already an amped-up, abrasive cornerman, etc.
 
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really?

You mean the corner of one guy was happy to see the other guy down in the heat of battle?


amazing


Some of the podcasts have been talking about it in recent days. Sounds like Ray Longo's voice (or Chris Weidman's dad, as opposed to Matt Serra or John Danaher, etc). Most are speculating it goes back to the 1st fight and the clowning from Anderson, etc. I.E. - in between rounds 1 and 2 in the 1st fight in July ... Longo saying to him - "Punch a hole through his fucking chest", etc. They got the KO finish in that fight, and the wild, freak injury stoppage in this one and the adrenaline's going & you're already an amped-up, abrasive cornerman, etc.
 
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really?

You mean the corner of one guy was happy to see the other guy down in the heat of battle?


amazing

that addresses one change i would like to see MMA incorporate: some sort of cone of silence for "corner men".

they can say whatever the fuck they want BETWEEN rounds, but should have to sit under a cone of silence DURING the round.

if i want to see who the best FIGHTER is, then the FIGHTER shouldn't be receiving instruction from his corner during the rounds. remember when fighters used to literally walk over to their "corner" while carrying an opponent on their back who is attempting an RNC? because they needed advice on how to escape or counter the hold?
 
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that addresses one change i would like to see MMA incorporate: some sort of cone of silence for "corner men".

they can say whatever the fuck they want BETWEEN rounds, but should have to sit under a cone of silence DURING the round.

if i want to see who the best FIGHTER is, then the FIGHTER shouldn't be receiving instruction from his corner during the rounds. remember when fighters used to literally walk over to their "corner" while carrying an opponent on their back who is attempting an RNC? because they needed advice on how to escape or counter the hold?


I hear ya. The corners (especially influential ones) can sway the judging from what many of us suspect. Cats like Greg Jackson cheering and applauding any type of offense from their fighters, etc. Most of us assume the judges (especially shittier ones) can be influenced by same. Adelaide Byrd & others ... shout out to ya'll. Do you even train? :)
 

It was good event to kick off UFC Fight Pass!!! They need to change the web page a little bit to make it easier to find fights, and I would like to see the Apple TV and iOS app before I can decide to keep it or not.

Tarec Saffiedene is a skilled fighter but he's like GSP doesn't go for / doesn't know how to finish!!!
 
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It was good event to kick off UFC Fight Pass!!! They need to change the web page a little bit to make it easier to find fights, and I would like to see the Apple TV and iOS app before I can decide to keep it or not.

Tarec Saffiedene is a skilled fighter but he's like GSP doesn't go for / doesn't know how to finish!!!


Thanks for the intel, Star.

Haven't had a chance to check out Fight Pass yet. Here in Canada they aired the card on the SN360 (Sportsnet 360) network which carries all the MMA, and I was able to find the prior prelims online later in the day.

As for Saffiedine ... yeah ... he's a skilled dude and chops people down with those leg kicks & switching up his own stance from orthodox to unorthodox ... giving them different looks and switching up his striking. The way he chopped down Marquardt and Lim respectively. Damn ... serious heart on Lim too. Had noted he had thought about quitting after the 3rd and 4th rounds, but stayed in it for the full 25 mins and he was STILL TRYING TO FINISH Saffiedine in the final 10 seconds ... still chasing him down (with 1 bum leg). Damn. They earned that bonus $ :yes:
 
I tell you what - one way MMA is showing boxing up is by embracing the internet the way they have. This UFC pass shit is cool as hell and if you really wanna support what you like, they make it easy to do.

I usually come to this board and find a link for ppv but for this price, and the reliability, I just may keep this subscription and embrace them
For setting that up.
 
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Cruz is out again.

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http://www.ufc.com/news/Cruz-Barao-Faber-169-update

The bad luck for Dominick Cruz continues, as it was announced by UFC President Dana White Monday that after being sidelined since late-2011 with a knee injury, Cruz has suffered a groin tear, forcing him out of his UFC 169 main event in New Jersey against interim bantamweight champion Renan Barao.

After this latest turn of events, Cruz has chosen to vacate his title, and Urijah Faber will now step up to face Barao, who was named bantamweight champion, for the undisputed 135-pound crown on February 1 at the Prudential Center in Newark.

Faber has won four straight bouts since a decision loss to Barao at UFC 149 in July of 2012. Brazil’s Barao currently sports a 21 fight winning streak, and he has not lost since April of 2005.

In the UFC 169 co-main event, Jose Aldo defends his featherweight crown against Ricardo Lamas.
 
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Cruz is out again.

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http://www.ufc.com/news/Cruz-Barao-Faber-169-update

The bad luck for Dominick Cruz continues, as it was announced by UFC President Dana White Monday that after being sidelined since late-2011 with a knee injury, Cruz has suffered a groin tear, forcing him out of his UFC 169 main event in New Jersey against interim bantamweight champion Renan Barao.

After this latest turn of events, Cruz has chosen to vacate his title, and Urijah Faber will now step up to face Barao, who was named bantamweight champion, for the undisputed 135-pound crown on February 1 at the Prudential Center in Newark.

Faber has won four straight bouts since a decision loss to Barao at UFC 149 in July of 2012. Brazil’s Barao currently sports a 21 fight winning streak, and he has not lost since April of 2005.

In the UFC 169 co-main event, Jose Aldo defends his featherweight crown against Ricardo Lamas.

A 3 week camp to fight Barao, not enough! :smh:

I hope Dana is giving Faber a short notice fight bonus!!

Anyways this fight will be more competitive, Cruz would have been destroyed, a 2 year lay-off, plus his body is obviously not in top shape, because it broke down 3 weeks before the fight!!!
 
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A 3 week camp to fight Barao, not enough! :smh:

I hope Dana is giving Faber a short notice fight bonus!!

Anyways this fight will be more competitive, Cruz would have been destroyed, a 2 year lay-off, plus his body is obviously not in top shape, because it broke down 3 weeks before the fight!!!

well, Fabers been training, albeit for someone else, and not a guy he already LOST to.

But we all know scrappy ass Uriah is not gonna back down.

Best of luck to him. I'm a supporter
 
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I tell you what - one way MMA is showing boxing up is by embracing the internet the way they have. This UFC pass shit is cool as hell and if you really wanna support what you like, they make it easy to do.

I usually come to this board and find a link for ppv but for this price, and the reliability, I just may keep this subscription and embrace them
For setting that up.


Yeah - it'll be interesting to see how the platform performs this year. The trial period throughout January and February, with it more fully launching come March 2014. I need to go back and watch plenty of the WEC and PRIDE content. Especially WEC ... my fave all-time organization (but I only caught WEC 33 - 53 from 2008 onward). I need to go back and see the earlier 2000s ... but shit ... they always delivered with Faber, Cruz, Jorgensen, Cerrone, Henderson, Varner, Swanson, Aldo, Benavidez, Torres, Brown, Pettis, and more.
 
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It will be interesting to see how Barao-Faber II pans out. Faber couldn't catch a break in the first fight in the summer of 2012 breaking his rib in the 1st rib and having Barao piece him up for the duration of the fight. That said ... Faber only had 1 fight in 2012, and went 4-0 throughout 2013. Hopefully we see a more competitive match-up ... especially considering Faber has only lost in TITLE fights throughout his career. He wins everything else. Lastly ... sucks for Cruz ... will we ever see him back, and at what capacity? He'll be gone for well over 2 years by the time we see him back (probably this spring or summer).
 
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