What makes Kobe so much better than D-Wade?

[FJP]

Since cats always talk about this "killer instinct" they both possess over the "other guy", What really besides Shoot from the perimeter does Kobe Do better than Wade? And I dont want to hear dudes say "pass" cause they both pass the ball mainly because they have to, not because they want to. And for the record Even though he was on very good team, Wade has done something that the "2nd greatest" have has never done, he actually took over a FINALS series. I know Kobe has more rings but had WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better teams.....Wade has never quit on the Heat even these past 2 seasons when they were weak like Kobe did when he used to go on them dumb ass spurts of not shooting to prove a pooint...

So my real question is what is it?.............

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

Wasnt you just shittin on D wade a few days ago?

 

[An RnB Thug]

 

[Blunt]

 

[FJP]

Wasnt you just shittin on D wade a few days ago?

No I wasnt, I was saying since when is he better than Lebron. I simply compared the players. Gave my opinion. Just seeing what people think in the spirit of sports conversation. I never said Wade was garbage. I was just wondering what made people as of July 8th all of a sudden say he was better than Bron..

 

[FJP]

Seriously though Im talking serious discussion, not that ESPN "rings are the only thing shit."

 

[2 ONE 3]

Kobe's more clutch.

Doesn't sacrifice his body by driving to the lane & falling as much as D Wade.

In time D will adjust and adapt. He'll have to if he wants to be in the league much longer. Dude goes hard in the paint 24/7​

 

[fatsack1]

6 in 1 hand......half dozen in the other....ninjas are about the same.....

 

[HotNixon36]

I agree.

 

[FJP]

Seriously though who has Kobe REALLY locked down that was PREMIER scorer at the time. Or at a big moment. I think he's a great perimeter defender, I used to say #2 behind Artest but after really looking at alot of older shit, Kobe has always been allowed to take alot of gambles because of good post defenders, and the years he didnt have that 05-07 he wasnt nearly as effective, cause Manu used to shit on him for one..

 

[callmeboss5]

I think the difference between Kobe and D Wade, are whoever comes down to mental make up. Kobe absolutely sucked out every ounce of his natural ability. Kobe is the best player Kobe could be. D Wade and others players with ungodly athleticism .i.e Iverson, play on natural ability and never reach their peek (technical skill, mental toughness, DEFENSE, etc. Very few players have the drive, or willingness to push themselves to be their best.. Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc...

 

[FJP]

Kobe's more clutch.

Doesn't sacrifice his body by driving to the lane & falling as much a D Wade.

In time D will adjust and adapt. He'll have to if he wants to be in the league much longer. Dude goes hard in the paint 24/7​

In exactly WHAT moments are Kobe more clutch? Cause on the biggest stage, the Finals Wade was more clutch than Kobe ever was. Kobe almost shot his team out of a title in June. I mean I cant ever recall after a Heat loss somebody saying "Wade shot them out of the game".

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Wade is a great player, but Kobe been 1st team All-Defense 7 times, Wade has never been 1st team. Kobe is alot more durable than Wade. Wade pretty much took 2008-09 season off, he was overweight and just didn't care. For offense, Kobe has a more consistent outside game than Wade, especially out towards the 3 point line.

 

[FJP]

In exactly WHAT moments are Kobe more clutch? Cause on the biggest stage, the Finals Wade was more clutch than Kobe ever was. Kobe almost shot his team out of a title in June. I mean I cant ever recall after a Heat loss somebody saying "Wade shot them out of the game".

 

[thereason]

Wasnt you just shittin on D wade a few days ago?

man i thought that was him lol
Wade my dude and I personally think he could be better than Kobes, but right now ima give Kobes the edge just cuz he been here longer and has the iq...but yeah is a beast on both ends of the court

 

[callmeboss5]

Seriously though who has Kobe REALLY locked down that was PREMIER scorer at the time. Or at a big moment. I think he's a great perimeter defender, I used to say #2 behind Artest but after really looking at alot of older shit, Kobe has always been allowed to take alot of gambles because of good post defenders, and the years he didnt have that 05-07 he wasnt nearly as effective, cause Manu used to shit on him for one..

Um.. I witnessed KOBE clamped down Iverson in his prime and held him SCORELESS for the second half of a game in 1999.

 

[cranrab]

flawed title and flawed premise.

dwyane wade is head and shoulders the superior player.

dwyane wade is a vastly more efficient scorer, better penetration skills, consistently better ball economy, and makes far more intelligent decisions with and without the basketball.

 

[8SD8-retired_member]

Um.. I witnessed KOBE clamped down Iverson in his prime and held him SCORELESS for the second half of a game in 1999.

...and there's T-Mac and Vince Carter.

Kobe to me is a highly capable defender, but what he does best is contain. Also, Kobe isn't nearly as motivated to play defense as he is to score.

 

[medalist31616]

i posted this exact same shit awhile back...

if Wade was on the same teams Kobe was on you think he wouldnt have 5 rings???

not only would he have 5 rings

but he would have more Finals MVPs....Kobe barely earned his

and plz no1 bring up Perimeter D... All Team Defense is not the real deal... that shit is a fashion show...

 

[Nemesis Prime]

In exactly WHAT moments are Kobe more clutch? Cause on the biggest stage, the Finals Wade was more clutch than Kobe ever was. Kobe almost shot his team out of a title in June. I mean I cant ever recall after a Heat loss somebody saying "Wade shot them out of the game".

Kobe got his team to FINALS 3 years in a row, winning 2 and he was clutch throughout. Wade's FINALS performance was one of the best performances i ever seen, but he's not even getting the Heat past the first since, especially in the weak EAST. And the no good teammates argument doesn't work because Kobe got to playoffs in the West with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown starting for his team...

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

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[xfactor]

nothing, because he's not.

wade did what wobe couldn't do (win a title with shaq past his prime and make it to the playoffs with the same core teammates that wobe finished last place in the division with)

wade is the premiere SG in the league and has been since 2005.

Hopefully he'll get his props this year with the much improved Heat, as they start their journey to compete for titles the next 6 years.

 

[peterlongshort]

Kobe has 5 rings. Dwayne wade has 1. By all standards both subjective and objective the number 5 is greater than 1.

 

[2 ONE 3]

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[Tha_Technician323]

No one ever in the league besides Michael Jordan work on there game more, no matter how many rings he has, he just got 2 in a row and best believe this coming season somebody will see Kobe do something and be like I never saw him do that shit before.........He studies different ways to beat your ass he always says it he would play the game for free a student of the game........The youtube video of him learning the dream shake last off season is the perfect example of what I'm talking about........

 

[jasonblacc]

Wade is a great player, but Kobe been 1st team All-Defense 7 times, Wade has never been 1st team. Kobe is alot more durable than Wade. Wade pretty much took 2008-09 season off, he was overweight and just didn't care. For offense, Kobe has a more consistent outside game than Wade, especially out towards the 3 point line.

8x 1st team all defensive

 

[peterlongshort]

8x 1st team all defensive

Damn, the evidence is piling up. This thread may be over soon.

 

[FJP]

Kobe got his team to FINALS 3 years in a row, winning 2 and he was clutch throughout. Wade's FINALS performance was one of the best performances i ever seen, but he's not even getting the Heat past the first since, especially in the weak EAST. And the no good teammates argument doesn't work because Kobe got to playoffs in the West with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown starting for his team...

Man please that team that they have now and by the way even in BGOL opinion is the BEST cast in the league... What did he do 05-07? Wade took a lottery team to the playoffs 2 years in a row. What round did Kobe get to when he didnt have legitimate stars with him?

 

[FJP]

...and there's T-Mac and Vince Carter.

Kobe to me is a highly capable defender, but what he does best is contain. Also, Kobe isn't nearly as motivated to play defense as he is to score.

Please stop it, he never used to lock down T-Mac at all, please stop that. Dude said he locked Iverson down for a half? Are you serious a half? All that All defensive team and you name Iverson for a damn half? Kobe couldnt even shut down Tayshaun Prince/Rip Hamiliton in the 04-05 Finals.

 

[Pworld297]

Put wade on the Lakers of the last three seasons and Kobe on Wade's team and see how it goes. Wade is surrounded by talent know, its a whole new ballgame.

 

[FJP]

No one ever in the league besides Michael Jordan work on there game more, no matter how many rings he has, he just got 2 in a row and best believe this coming season somebody will see Kobe do something and be like I never saw him do that shit before.........He studies different ways to beat your ass he always says it he would play the game for free a student of the game........The youtube video of him learning the dream shake last off season is the perfect example of what I'm talking about........

So do you really think these past 2 championships had more to do with Kobe "working" on his game since 05 or the Lakers "working" on the Roster?

 

[FJP]

Put wade on the Lakers of the last three seasons and Kobe on Wade's team and see how it goes. Wade is surrounded by talent know, its a whole new ballgame.

We already seen Kobe on Wades last 3 teams, 05-07, they didnt do shit. He quit on them in one series, and the others they just lost. He shot as much as he could and they lost.

 

[TNazT]

i posted this exact same shit awhile back...

if Wade was on the same teams Kobe was on you think he wouldnt have 5 rings???

not only would he have 5 rings

but he would have more Finals MVPs....Kobe barely earned his

and plz no1 bring up Perimeter D... All Team Defense is not the real deal... that shit is a fashion show...

but i give the nod to Kobe.......right now

 

[H.Clarke]

I think the difference between Kobe and D Wade, are whoever comes down to mental make up. Kobe absolutely sucked out every ounce of his natural ability. Kobe is the best player Kobe could be. D Wade and others players with ungodly athleticism .i.e Iverson, play on natural ability and never reach their peek (technical skill, mental toughness, DEFENSE, etc. Very few players have the drive, or willingness to push themselves to be their best.. Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc...

I am NOT in any way a Hobe fan

But I respect his work ethic and that's some real shit u just typed bro

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Man please that team that they have now and by the way even in BGOL opinion is the BEST cast in the league... What did he do 05-07? Wade took a lottery team to the playoffs 2 years in a row. What round did Kobe get to when he didnt have legitimate stars with him?

No problem, lets extend it to the last 5 years. I see a pattern...

Kobe
2009/2010 - Champions
2008/2009 - Champions
2007/2008 - Lost to Celtics in FINALS (2-4)
2006/2007 - Lost to Phoenix in First Round (1-4)
2005/2006 - Lost to Phoenix in First Round (3-4)


Wade
2009/2010 - Lost in First Round (1-4)
2008/2009 - Lost in First Round (3-4)
2007/2008 - No Playoffs (15-67 record, Shaq for Marion trade)
2006/2007 - Lost to Bulls in First Round (Sweep, Shaq 17 ppg)
2005/2006 - Champions