Extraterrestrial Question....***serious replies please***

[smokedacane]

What I find most troubling is that when a discussion like this takes place at work, I find his type of reply or worse only from my own Black folks. I have better conversations about this with the White folks when my own aren't around and even then I'm holding back because I know they don't know the material as well as I'd like them to.

I don't know what it's and I avoid making stereotypes but the Black community for the most part aren't thinking in depth like we're on the subject. I find myself holding back too when discussing anything UFO related because I know they're oblivious

Now more often than not someone who is White will have some familiarity with what we're discussing. It's odd to me, but I don't know the exact reason for it.

 

[ankhheru]

I don't know what it's and I avoid making stereotypes but the Black community for
the most part aren't thinking in depth like we're on the subject. I find myself holding back too when discussing anything UFO related because I know they're oblivious

Now more often than not someone who is White will have some familiarity with what we're discussing. It's odd to me, but I don't know the exact reason for it.

i blame the church and the fact that majority blacks in america are religious to a fault. if it didnt come from the mouth of baby jesus then they have a problem. in fact i would go so far as call them fundamentalists. thats whats stopping the disimination of information in the black communities.

 

[humble]

I lovin this discussion.

 

[shanebp1978]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UWR6WE4z20g&feature=related

i saw this a while back and found it to be very interesting as well. it was a part of the disclosure project that seemed to come out at the wrong time. i forgot what big political issue came out a day before th release of the disclosure project but it definitely pushed that to the back burner so it didnt get the full attention it deserved.

9/11 happened like a day or two days after this conference.

Or maybe, because the, " Disclosure Project " is founded by a acronym freak hack who at one time claimed himself Jesus, and has disregarded legitimate UFO investigation for 'New Age' channeling communication.

He's not only ineffectual and basically a joke, if you'd like to go to his workshop, cough up the $700.00!

Maybe if it wasn't for him, The Disclosure project would have some balls.

An we won't even get on his parade of witnesses.

Important information for the betterment of ALL manKIND . . . at 24.9NINE.

 

[HALO2]

thats it. i knew it was something huge. shame that happened when it did because i think that would have garnered serious attention from the media otherwise.

maybe you didnt understand my question. try re-reading it again. in fact its obvious you didnt understand my question judging from your next response to my posts......

re read the thread.

no need I understood, my advice still stands

 

[shanebp1978]

i blame the church and the fact that majority blacks in america are religious to a fault. if it didnt come from the mouth of baby jesus then they have a problem. in fact i would go so far as call them fundamentalists. thats whats stopping the disimination of information in the black communities.

You use lower case I's when referring to yourself, and that paragraph was one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read on this board, and I've read them all.

An I mean ignorant as in you didn't THINK on it very long, or any of the factors that effect African Americans, or in fact use any common sense to examine the AA experience.

You just ban wagon blame the church? Easy target, guess that will get you BIG esoteric points now!!

 

[ankhheru]

no need I understood, my advice still stands

well thanks for your advice. that and .50 cents gets me nothing.

 

[ankhheru]

You use lower case I's when referring to yourself, and that paragraph was one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read on this board, and I've read them all.

An I mean ignorant as in you didn't THINK on it very long, or any of the factors that effect African Americans, or in fact use any common sense to examine the AA experience.

You just ban wagon blame the church? Easy target, guess that will get you BIG esoteric points now!!

i type in all lower case so to keep everything uniformed i leave the "i" lower cased. same thing goes for all other words that should be capitolized. it has nothing to do with my self image.

im actually in america dealing with the black american experience and i see it from a different view. fundamentalist blacks are not only in position financially but they also have the platforms in place to disiminate information of all kinds but they choose to not only exclude anyone searching for a platform that dont go along with there agenda but they out right name call and ridicule.

as far as my response being the most ignorant non thought out statement you have heard that would make you a newbie shane and you been around bgol longer than that. i see more dumb shit said by 9 am than most people see in a lifetime on bgol. me and you aint gonna ever agree on everything and my pov wont be in line with yourd, but thats what makes you you and me me.

 

[mk23666]

i blame the church and the fact that majority blacks in america are religious to a fault. if it didnt come from the mouth of baby jesus then they have a problem. in fact i would go so far as call them fundamentalists. thats whats stopping the disimination of information in the black communities.

When some churches can deny evolution; deny, the age of the Earth and the universe, deny the existance of dinosaurs, deny gays are born that way, deny that life could exist anywhere else other than Earth, deny the Earth is round, deny Blacks and Whites the right to marry and have kids ... I can see your point.

 

[ankhheru]

When some churches can deny evolution; deny, the age of the Earth and the universe, deny the existance of dinosaurs, deny gays are born that way, deny that life could exist anywhere else other than Earth, deny the Earth is round, deny Blacks and Whites the right to marry and have kids ... I can see your point.

and dont think that that attitude aint in the black religious community still. black folks are no different than any other race when it comes to fundamentalism. the church has long held the position of being the forum that blacks could get information disseminated however that information must fall in line with there doctrine and teachings or it will not be allowed to be disseminated from there pedestal. i offered to help a group in my community that holds vigils and speaks out against teen violence and murder. they turned me down because i didnt believe in there religious doctrine. so yeah shit happens even in the black church.

 

[slimgoodbody]

i asked this question in a thread before but the question still seems to nag my mind. if the stars are a reflection of the earth (as above so below) why have there not been any black ET's reported and why is it only white ET's ever mentioned when we speak of humanoid types? surely if there is diversity on earth there should be in the stars. also what would be the purpose of not helping blacks on this planet seeing the condition of people of color under the rule of these white folks here?

this is a question i have often thought about and i would appreciate serious replies please.

Damn! I sware............ I have thought the same thing many many times. Why is it that most of the alleged contacts between humans and aliens in modern times seems to involve whites.

One possible reason for the discrepancy is that most reported abductions and/or ufo sightings takes place in rural environments and the vast majority of blacks are urban dwellers. Not to mention that whites are the majority pop

I don't ever recall anyone mentioning an afro-typic humanoid either, but if there's other earth-like worlds, logic would dictate that there's dark-skinned humanoids elsewhere.

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If there are indeed aliens who visit earth, I think that they could give a rat's ass about how humans divide themselves along so-called racial lines. I mean, they should be inteligent enough to know that human racial classifications are over-whelmingly a sociological construct.

 

[smokedacane]

If there are indeed aliens who visit earth, I think that they could give a rat's ass about how humans divide themselves along so-called racial lines. I mean, they should be inteligent enough to know that human racial classifications are over-whelmingly a sociological construct.

Yep

'race' itself is just a social construct used to divide and place importance over certain ethnic groups over others. On a genetic level it just doesn't make sense. We're all human and to think that an alien species would acknowledge we are all different is just absurd. This problem alone is what is holding back the human race.

 

[Tazirai]

Confuscious says:

Black humans lived on this planet first... a long ass time ago when the orbit was closer to the sun due to another planet/star in the mix. Closer to the sun = dark skin. White humans were elsewhere.. mars they say. Glactic catastrophy ensued, earth got on the new orbit(current one) aryan martians came to earth at about the same time as earth was settling back down from the calamitys caused by the new orbit.

So if those who put forth this theory are right, perhaps dark skin is exclusive to planets close to a sun.. and obviously there would be alot less habitable ones considering that space expands the further you get from the sun. Thus, more light skined humanoids...

I'm Black but we are NOT the first nor the greatest of the Species.
Im a amteur Archaeologist with studies in Ancient History.. not HIS-Story.. whoever the fuck he is.

The planet was populated and destroyed many times for various reasons and causes. Humanity is much older than we think. The problem is that with modern science there is simply no way to go back and find EVERYTHING. It's just not possible.

How many people swam in the same ocean where the Temple in japan was found, and never saw a thing?

There are so many thing's yet discovered and many more discovered but not disclosed, it's sick.

The one thing I know about our worldis that EVERYTHING is recyclable , except Styrofoam. SO that tells me that the ancients never produced that crap. We are the first to do so. Our ancient technology. may be wholly created by us.. OR with the help of Alien influence.

There really is no way that a little over 100 years ago we went from, not being able to fly. To going to the moon. Yet it took thousands of years for us to reach that point.

Theres so much Information/mis-information out there it's crazy. Everyone has an agenda, each side has a goal. That is to protect the familiar and the ordinary.

I can't convince people evolution exists.. even though I see it everyday.
I can't make people believe that we aren't the pinnacle of our world.
Best thing I can do is enlighten myself and provide that information to everyone to form their own opinion.

My Agenda and goal: To provide thoughtful discourse..whether you believe it or not. Makes no difference to me.

 

[smokedacane]

I'm Black but we are NOT the first nor the greatest of the Species.
Im a amteur Archaeologist with studies in Ancient History.. not HIS-Story.. whoever the fuck he is.

The planet was populated and destroyed many times for various reasons and causes. Humanity is much older than we think. The problem is that with modern science there is simply no way to go back and find EVERYTHING. It's just not possible.

How many people swam in the same ocean where the Temple in japan was found, and never saw a thing?

There are so many thing's yet discovered and many more discovered but not disclosed, it's sick.

The one thing I know about our worldis that EVERYTHING is recyclable , except Styrofoam. SO that tells me that the ancients never produced that crap. We are the first to do so. Our ancient technology. may be wholly created by us.. OR with the help of Alien influence.

There really is no way that a little over 100 years ago we went from, not being able to fly. To going to the moon. Yet it took thousands of years for us to reach that point.

Theres so much Information/mis-information out there it's crazy. Everyone has an agenda, each side has a goal. That is to protect the familiar and the ordinary.

I can't convince people evolution exists.. even though I see it everyday.
I can't make people believe that we aren't the pinnacle of our world.
Best thing I can do is enlighten myself and provide that information to everyone to form their own opinion.

My Agenda and goal: To provide thoughtful discourse..whether you believe it or not. Makes no difference to me.

maaaaaaan good post Taz


What I bolded is something I thought about extensively as well. I sit in archeology class thinking to myself "hmmmm it took us thousands of years to fine tune Archeulan tool technology as early humans but we are capable of perfecting flight in little over 60 some odd years"


I understand their is progression but I don't think we give the ancients their due, and there is more to be discovered we don't know about from our forgotten past.

 

[smokedacane]

I'm Black but we are NOT the first nor the greatest of the Species.
Im a amteur Archaeologist with studies in Ancient History.. not HIS-Story.. whoever the fuck he is.

The planet was populated and destroyed many times for various reasons and causes. Humanity is much older than we think. The problem is that with modern science there is simply no way to go back and find EVERYTHING. It's just not possible.

How many people swam in the same ocean where the Temple in japan was found, and never saw a thing?

There are so many thing's yet discovered and many more discovered but not disclosed, it's sick.

The one thing I know about our worldis that EVERYTHING is recyclable , except Styrofoam. SO that tells me that the ancients never produced that crap. We are the first to do so. Our ancient technology. may be wholly created by us.. OR with the help of Alien influence.

There really is no way that a little over 100 years ago we went from, not being able to fly. To going to the moon. Yet it took thousands of years for us to reach that point.

Theres so much Information/mis-information out there it's crazy. Everyone has an agenda, each side has a goal. That is to protect the familiar and the ordinary.

I can't convince people evolution exists.. even though I see it everyday.
I can't make people believe that we aren't the pinnacle of our world.
Best thing I can do is enlighten myself and provide that information to everyone to form their own opinion.

My Agenda and goal: To provide thoughtful discourse..whether you believe it or not. Makes no difference to me.

maaaaaaan good post Taz


What I bolded is something I thought about extensively as well. I sit in archeology class thinking to myself "hmmmm it took us thousands of years to fine tune Archeulan tool technology as early humans but we are capable of perfecting flight in little over 60 some odd years"


I understand their is progression but I don't think we give the ancients their due, and there is more to be discovered we don't know about from our forgotten past.

 

[smokedacane]

double post.

 

[ankhheru]

I'm Black but we are NOT the first nor the greatest of the Species.
Im a amteur Archaeologist with studies in Ancient History.. not HIS-Story.. whoever the fuck he is.

The planet was populated and destroyed many times for various reasons and causes. Humanity is much older than we think. The problem is that with modern science there is simply no way to go back and find EVERYTHING. It's just not possible.

How many people swam in the same ocean where the Temple in japan was found, and never saw a thing?

There are so many thing's yet discovered and many more discovered but not disclosed, it's sick.

The one thing I know about our worldis that EVERYTHING is recyclable , except Styrofoam. SO that tells me that the ancients never produced that crap. We are the first to do so. Our ancient technology. may be wholly created by us.. OR with the help of Alien influence.

There really is no way that a little over 100 years ago we went from, not being able to fly. To going to the moon. Yet it took thousands of years for us to reach that point.

Theres so much Information/mis-information out there it's crazy. Everyone has an agenda, each side has a goal. That is to protect the familiar and the ordinary.

I can't convince people evolution exists.. even though I see it everyday.
I can't make people believe that we aren't the pinnacle of our world.
Best thing I can do is enlighten myself and provide that information to everyone to form their own opinion.

My Agenda and goal: To provide thoughtful discourse..whether you believe it or not. Makes no difference to me.

as an amateur archaeologist do you have any evidence you can personally show us to help strengthen our own arguments as to other higher civilizations existing and where they may have come from and went?

 

[Blksoul17]

i asked this question in a thread before but the question still seems to nag my mind. if the stars are a reflection of the (as above so belowearth ) why have there not been any black ET's reported and why is it only white ET's ever mentioned when we speak of humanoid types? surely if there is diversity on earth there should be in the stars. also what would be the purpose of not helping blacks on this planet seeing the condition of people of color under the rule of these white folks here?

this is a question i have often thought about and i would appreciate serious replies please.

Peace,

I scrolled throught the first few pages of responses and noticed a pattern of answers that focused primarily on ET's. "(as above so below earth )" this statement could be taken to refer to a metaphysical higher plane of consciousness or existance.

 

[ankhheru]

Peace,

I scrolled throught the first few pages of responses and noticed a pattern of answers that focused primarily on ET's. "(as above so below earth )" this statement could be taken to refer to a metaphysical higher plane of consciousness or existance.

yes i know but it was meant as it was used. if there are pale skinned, blond haired, blue eyed space beings then according to what we know about human diversity on this planet there should be sightings of dark skinned entities. its the lack of them that i find to be peculiar but as it was posted in later posts there apparently are dark skinned extra terrestrials.

 

[nyeleman]

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1454.htm

WHY ARE THERE NO UFO SIGHTINGS IN AFRICA?

the majority of sightings in Africa are of demons and the occult. But i still believe Aliens are not from out of space and are native to this planet. The alien from out of space is a creation of the White man. You quoted credo mutwa a south african sangoma if you read a lot of his stuff which i never do because am too familiar with stories that, you will see that in Africa these flying beings from so called space are not but demons resident on this planet and have been on Earth longer than humans.

 

[Blksoul17]

yes i know but it was meant as it was used. if there are pale skinned, blond haired, blue eyed space beings then according to what we know about human diversity on this planet there should be sightings of dark skinned entities. its the lack of them that i find to be peculiar but as it was posted in later posts there apparently are dark skinned extra terrestrials.

Ok I see where you coming from now.

 

[mk23666]

Yep

'race' itself is just a social construct used to divide and place importance over certain ethnic groups over others. On a genetic level it just doesn't make sense. We're all human and to think that an alien species would acknowledge we are all different is just absurd. This problem alone is what is holding back the human race.

If I recall it correctly, I think that Betty and Barney Hill during their abduction had a strange discussion with their captors about the colorings of humans. (I think it was actually Betty) They thought that all men were Black and the women were White. I think they also were confused about her little pet dog too as they thought it was her offspring.

Weird how sometimes they seem to understand us so well and then other times it's as if it's their first time getting here and they know nothing. Different planetary species coming here could possibly explain that or time travelling could explain that as well.

 

[smokedacane]

If I recall it correctly, I think that Betty and Barney Hill during their abduction had a strange discussion with their captors about the colorings of humans. (I think it was actually Betty) They thought that all men were Black and the women were White. I think they also were confused about her little pet dog too as they thought it was her offspring.

really


I never knew this. I remember the Greys having a hard time figuring out why Barney's teeth could come out but Betty's couldn't.

But non the less interesting if in fact your memory is not fooling you.

Weird how sometimes they seem to understand us so well and then other times it's as if it's their first time getting here and they know nothing. Different planetary species coming here could possibly explain that or time travelling could explain that as well.

You got a point.I'm just reaching here but maybe these Greys were newly developed drones that never encountered a different variation of humans before.

Or two you time traveling explanation.

 

[mk23666]

the majority of sightings in Africa are of demons and the occult. But i still believe Aliens are not from out of space and are native to this planet. The alien from out of space is a creation of the White man. You quoted credo mutwa a south african sangoma if you read a lot of his stuff which i never do because am too familiar with stories that, you will see that in Africa these flying beings from so called space are not but demons resident on this planet and have been on Earth longer than humans.

Could they just be calling them demons because of their belief systems?

 

[smokedacane]

Could they just be calling them demons because of their belief systems?

I wonder why he didn't respond to my post



Also you do have a point about the belief system thing. I think Credo Mutwa went over that in the vid I posted.

 

[LennyNero1972]

Could they just be calling them demons because of their belief systems?

Exactly.

 

[mk23666]

Yeah, I remember the false teeth thing now too. I trust my memory of their abduction isn't being mixed with another one. I have read sooooo many of them since I became interested in understanding the phenomenon.

 

[Finito]

I'm Black but we are NOT the first nor the greatest of the Species.
Im a amteur Archaeologist with studies in Ancient History.. not HIS-Story.. whoever the fuck he is.

The planet was populated and destroyed many times for various reasons and causes. Humanity is much older than we think. The problem is that with modern science there is simply no way to go back and find EVERYTHING. It's just not possible.

How many people swam in the same ocean where the Temple in japan was found, and never saw a thing?

There are so many thing's yet discovered and many more discovered but not disclosed, it's sick.

The one thing I know about our worldis that EVERYTHING is recyclable , except Styrofoam. SO that tells me that the ancients never produced that crap. We are the first to do so. Our ancient technology. may be wholly created by us.. OR with the help of Alien influence.

There really is no way that a little over 100 years ago we went from, not being able to fly. To going to the moon. Yet it took thousands of years for us to reach that point.

Theres so much Information/mis-information out there it's crazy. Everyone has an agenda, each side has a goal. That is to protect the familiar and the ordinary.

I can't convince people evolution exists.. even though I see it everyday.
I can't make people believe that we aren't the pinnacle of our world.
Best thing I can do is enlighten myself and provide that information to everyone to form their own opinion.

My Agenda and goal: To provide thoughtful discourse..whether you believe it or not. Makes no difference to me.

I hear you but.. did you mean the first humans werent dark skinned or that we as in humans "were not the first not greatest"? If you meant the former, how is it that you know this?

I personally believe evolution could have been assisted. To an extent we're doing just that to some animal species in labs as we speak... we are of course only doing it to the extent or our conceived needs(which are not huge leaps in comparison to the missing link) but what if the "assistants" to our evolution needed a little bit more out of us at the time?

All i truely know is that in the grand scheme of things, every so called "proof" at some point relys on another human beings word. Humans who have been proven to grossly embellish history if it suits them. With that, alot more things become possible.

 

[Tazirai]

as an amateur archaeologist do you have any evidence you can personally show us to help strengthen our own arguments as to other higher civilizations existing and where they may have come from and went?

It's hard for me to personally get to you to show ya. But there are many websites, out there that have them. Theres no denying the temples and such.
I'm a skeptic at heart, but am willing to believe in things grounded in the real world.

http://www.skepticworld.com/ancient-artifacts/baghdad-battery.asp
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni_schoch1.html
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_lights_fd1.htm

Working Egyptian lightbulb based off Hieroglyphs
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/GTFsPnUddA8&rel=1[/FLASH]

I hear you but.. did you mean the first humans werent dark skinned or that we as in humans "were not the first not greatest"? If you meant the former, how is it that you know this?

I personally believe evolution could have been assisted. To an extent we're doing just that to some animal species in labs as we speak... we are of course only doing it to the extent or our conceived needs(which are not huge leaps in comparison to the missing link) but what if the "assistants" to our evolution needed a little bit more out of us at the time?

All i truely know is that in the grand scheme of things, every so called "proof" at some point relys on another human beings word. Humans who have been proven to grossly embellish history if it suits them. With that, alot more things become possible.

Both, actually. I base my beliefs in science actually and various research i've done.
EVERYTHING on the earth is made from it, Humans are biodegradable, so are our all accomplishments. Based on what was said in history and science classes, if you choose to believe them or not. When civilizations fall, they tend to fall hard. If the things of past ages aren't preserved or cared for they tend to go POOF. Meaning they will return to their previous state.

Humanity itself didnt all start off as black folks. There were waay to many tribes scattered around the world. Some ethnicities evolved to adapt to their current environment. Early example are blacks high resistance to heat, and whites higher tolerance for colder climes. It's not just a skin color thing.

As far as us being the greatest civilization, What makes us so great? Reality TV? Cars. Mp3 players, Operas?
Civilizations exist on far more than that. Their legacy is based on how they leave the world for the next set of people.

We may be the first to invent, Styrofoam simply because, it was never done.
I dont think we invented flight, theres too much evidence from MANY ancient cultures to think that. TV? Who cares about that stuff. After we are gone the egyptian hieroglyphs will still exist, but out tv's wont.

forms of automation have existed since ancient days. What we think of as pinnacles may just be a variant of what was created before.

For instance just today Bill gates announced that, Keyboards may become a thing of the past, due to speech recognition in future PC's. Biologists have theorized and studied using the human body to process data. Who's to say this or some semblance of it hasnt been done before.

Did you know that roman and greek buildings are stronger built, than anything we can make? The concretes and materials we use today are not made for durability. That's why when quakes destroy whole cities... all the ancient structures go mostly undamaged.

Man theres soo much, I can't go into it all. The information is readily available in multiple languages. So you dont have to settle for some white american or Euro guys take on it.

Just research,, and filter otu the garbage.

My head hurts..

 

[Brown Bear]

IF, and I do mean IF, there is some vast worldwide conspiracy by Whites against all the darker skinned peoples of this planet, then the idea that the Nordic humanoids being here covertly observing us could take on an ominous malevolent feel. They might even be in charge of the slow methodical genocide. Read the book, "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley for an interesting take on religions, secret societies, worldwide plagues, world wars and who could be behind it all.

Kinda where you are going with your theory.

Just got to page three of this topic, I don't know if anyone posted this yet, but I just found that book you referred to. It's in .pdf format, and here if anyone is interested:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0ECVJV1W

 

[Finito]

Humanity itself didnt all start off as black folks. There were waay to many tribes scattered around the world. Some ethnicities evolved to adapt to their current environment. Early example are blacks high resistance to heat, and whites higher tolerance for colder climes. It's not just a skin color thing.

Firstly I appreciate your input even though i may not agree with some of it. Im curious what you think of this part though. Wouldnt the scenario i touched apon(again its only a theory) still fall inline with what you said there? Darker skin people being here when the earth was closer to the sun and the light skined "ET'S" coming from another planet further from the sun once earth took this new orbit? It doesnt explain other features unique/semi-unique to certain "races" but geographic location and evolution could explain those as you said.

Then again i just realized you said humanity itself.. the scenario i mentioned assumes humanity on multiple planets already... Ive heard the "original man" stuff as well but thats not what i mean.

I dont particularly believe anything about history that long ago but i do believe in possibility. I guess you could say im a skeptic too in a way.. im more skeptical about the common reasoning were given than anything though.

I found your post very interesting though. Never seen the stuff in those links. I dont believe were the greatest civilization to ever grace the earth either... it just doesnt seem right to me.

Brown Bear do a search on this forum. Theres was a thread with a package of Sitchen e-books not too long ago iirc.

Edit: I just realized you posted gods of eden and its not a sitchin book. Im runnin on fumes here and it shows.

 

[ankhheru]

It's hard for me to personally get to you to show ya. But there are many websites, out there that have them. Theres no denying the temples and such.
I'm a skeptic at heart, but am willing to believe in things grounded in the real world.

http://www.skepticworld.com/ancient-artifacts/baghdad-battery.asp
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni_schoch1.html
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_lights_fd1.htm

Working Egyptian lightbulb based off Hieroglyphs
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/GTFsPnUddA8&rel=1[/FLASH]

thanks, however i have seen most of that information that you just provided and was hoping for perhaps a digital picture scanned or uploaded of say some artifact you may have access to.

Humanity itself didnt all start off as black folks. There were waay to many tribes scattered around the world. Some ethnicities evolved to adapt to their current environment. Early example are blacks high resistance to heat, and whites higher tolerance for colder climes. It's not just a skin color thing.

i disagree with this idea simply because science does not support this in any way shape or form. earliest homo-sapien were not pale skinned. there were two migrations out of africa at two separate times. i also think there dating techniques are either wrong or intentionally falsified to help maintain established academias position. i think mankind is much older than we think and all evidence to prove otherwise is generally tucked away in a basement of some museum or university.
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/Radioc.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#Homo_sapiens

As far as us being the greatest civilization, What makes us so great? Reality TV? Cars. Mp3 players, Operas?
Civilizations exist on far more than that. Their legacy is based on how they leave the world for the next set of people.

We may be the first to invent, Styrofoam simply because, it was never done.
I dont think we invented flight, theres too much evidence from MANY ancient cultures to think that. TV? Who cares about that stuff. After we are gone the egyptian hieroglyphs will still exist, but out tv's wont.

forms of automation have existed since ancient days. What we think of as pinnacles may just be a variant of what was created before.

For instance just today Bill gates announced that, Keyboards may become a thing of the past, due to speech recognition in future PC's. Biologists have theorized and studied using the human body to process data. Who's to say this or some semblance of it hasnt been done before.

Did you know that roman and greek buildings are stronger built, than anything we can make? The concretes and materials we use today are not made for durability. That's why when quakes destroy whole cities... all the ancient structures go mostly undamaged.

Man theres soo much, I can't go into it all. The information is readily available in multiple languages. So you dont have to settle for some white american or Euro guys take on it.

Just research,, and filter otu the garbage.

My head hurts..

i agree with a lot of what you said here. we tend to think we are the only humans that had high culture.

Just got to page three of this topic, I don't know if anyone posted this yet, but I just found that book you referred to. It's in .pdf format, and here if anyone is interested:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0ECVJV1W

thanks

 

[nyeleman]

I wonder why he didn't respond to my post



Also you do have a point about the belief system thing. I think Credo Mutwa went over that in the vid I posted.

I answered your question these aliens are nothing but native to this planet. You told me to look at ancient works and i already did. And thestory goes these beings were the first beings on this planet before humans and have lived with us. Not only in Africa are the called demons , they are called demons and gods everywhere on the planet it's only in the last 40 years people have romantacized the idea that they are from another planet. Most of these science fiction movies you watch are nothing but old stories retold to make it seem new.

It's not only in Africa where they are called demons. In japan with the Utsuro buno aliens they were called demons. And it's interesting to note that the japanese witnesses saw these Aliens going back not to Outer space but into the sea. You can find the same story of certain demons living under the sea and coming out in crafts .

If these Aliens come from outer space how come they could communicate in various languages to humans??? And better yet how exactly do they know so much about us and can easily destroy us but are very elusive???

 

[nyeleman]

Could they just be calling them demons because of their belief systems?

It's not only in Africa where we know Aliens as demons . Doesn't science teach that Ancient tribes were taught a lot by ancient astronauts or aliens?

Book of Enoch
Chapter 8
Chapter 8

1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all

2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they

3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven .

 

[CADE_BADAZZ]

i asked this question in a thread before but the question still seems to nag my mind. if the stars are a reflection of the earth (as above so below) why have there not been any black ET's reported and why is it only white ET's ever mentioned when we speak of humanoid types? surely if there is diversity on earth there should be in the stars. also what would be the purpose of not helping blacks on this planet seeing the condition of people of color under the rule of these white folks here?

this is a question i have often thought about and i would appreciate serious replies please.

ITS proberly alot of reasonsa:
1 they act like dogs the white ones in the litter dont make deffrence between the brown ones or spotted ones

2 Its a space suit they have on when they come here just like the white one that black astronauts use to perform space walks

3 Mabe all the races on their planet mixed over thousands of years and became one color like all humans might be a light brown thousands of years from now

4 or they proberly are all the same color like most animals of the same type