I don't have a catchy title,just something that happened today.

I totally agree its a deeper longer conversation than we can have here. However I'm convinced that the media being produced and promoted to blacks for the purpose of provocative entertainment (often by black people) undermines the positive morals and principles we try to instill in our youth. The restructuring of the economy over the last few decades so that both parents are likely to be employed to afford a decent lifestyle plays a roll. The village construct has also broken down because people are much more transient. The crack epidemic, the war on drugs, a broken and racist criminal justice system resulting in mass incarceration, on and on.

I agree and good post!
 
Whippings come from slavery
Well, no matter where they came... I got them.

I also grew up to know that every single person who whipped me, loved me and cared for me. They went out of their way to make sure that I was fed, and nourished (mind, body, and soul).

I was the first person in my family to attend college. Now, there's a host of us who graduated from college. We went from receiving switches to receiving college degrees.
 
Well, no matter where they came... I got them.

I also grew up to know that every single person who whipped me, loved me and cared for me. They went out of their way to make sure that I was fed, and nourished (mind, body, and soul).

I was the first person in my family to attend college. Now, there's a host of us who graduated from college. We went from receiving switches to receiving college degrees.

That's good it worked for you. But the majority of black children are beat and the majority of black children don't get positive results from it. I'm sure the mom in this example smacked her kids all the time but discipline isn't built through beatings it's built through practice. The psychological scaring from these beatings does not influence their behavior in a positive way. These kids see enough violence and degradation in their lives. They need knowledge wisdom and understanding. These kids committing crimes need their communities to support them when their parents don't.

I commend nawlins for de-escalating the situation. He maybe showed the kids a better way to deal with conflicts.

Part of the problem we have in our community is the good successful people leave. There are no longer matriarchs of the hood that feed hungry children. There are no longer old heads that everyone respects. All these kids see is demons that's why they want to be that. So when we deal with these kids we have to do our best to show some love, patience and respect. We have to teach these kids through example.
 
That's good it worked for you. But the majority of black children are beat and the majority of black children don't get positive results from it. I'm sure the mom in this example smacked her kids all the time but discipline isn't built through beatings it's built through practice. The psychological scaring from these beatings does not influence their behavior in a positive way. These kids see enough violence and degradation in their lives. They need knowledge wisdom and understanding. These kids committing crimes need their communities to support them when their parents don't.

I commend nawlins for de-escalating the situation. He maybe showed the kids a better way to deal with conflicts.

Part of the problem we have in our community is the good successful people leave. There are no longer matriarchs of the hood that feed hungry children. There are no longer old heads that everyone respects. All these kids see is demons that's why they want to be that. So when we deal with these kids we have to do our best to show some love, patience and respect. We have to teach these kids through example.
I take no issue with what you've said, Brother.

I believe that there's a lack of discipline in that vast majority of households today. Discipline doesn't necessarily have to mean whippings, but there has to be some sort of consequences for ill actions. Some parents are failing their children in this department.
 
I take no issue with what you've said, Brother.

I believe that there's a lack of discipline in that vast majority of households today. Discipline doesn't necessarily have to mean whippings, but there has to be some sort of consequences for ill actions. Some parents are failing their children in this department.
Exactly, too many parents wanna be friends, too scared of hurting their kids feelings, etc
 
Exactly, too many parents wanna be friends, too scared of hurting their kids feelings, etc

Bro I see the opposite. The kids that are bad are the ones that are traumatized. It's not babying that's making these kids bad its trauma from a young age. White families baby the hell out of there kids but their kids don't turn violent. You know who else baby's there kids. Rich people. It's only poor people that abuse there children because they treat them like animals or slaves instead of little humans.

We abuse the hell out our kids mentally, physically and emotionally and wonder why they mentally, physically and emotionally abuse others.

That's why I commend your reaction. You saw that the kids needed discipline but you didn't force discipline you showed discipline. You showed strength is not in your ability to act emotionally but in your ability to restrain your emotions and act logically.
 
Bro I see the opposite. The kids that are bad are the ones that are traumatized. It's not babying that's making these kids bad its trauma from a young age. White families baby the hell out of there kids but their kids don't turn violent. You know who else baby's there kids. Rich people. It's only poor people that abuse there children because they treat them like animals or slaves instead of little humans.

We abuse the hell out our kids mentally, physically and emotionally and wonder why they mentally, physically and emotionally abuse others.

That's why I commend your reaction. You saw that the kids needed discipline but you didn't force discipline you showed discipline. You showed strength is not in your ability to act emotionally but in your ability to restrain your emotions and act logically.
Appreciated
But I think when it gets to the point that I had to deal with, it's too far gone.
 
Bro I see the opposite. The kids that are bad are the ones that are traumatized. It's not babying that's making these kids bad its trauma from a young age. White families baby the hell out of there kids but their kids don't turn violent. You know who else baby's there kids. Rich people. It's only poor people that abuse there children because they treat them like animals or slaves instead of little humans.

We abuse the hell out our kids mentally, physically and emotionally and wonder why they mentally, physically and emotionally abuse others.

That's why I commend your reaction. You saw that the kids needed discipline but you didn't force discipline you showed discipline. You showed strength is not in your ability to act emotionally but in your ability to restrain your emotions and act logically.
I agree with you to a certain point. I feel your point on kids being traumatized.

Yet, there a lot of white parents who fail to discipline their kids. These kids seem to be super entitled; yet, when face with any type of rejection they can't cope. These people tend to go from one extreme to the other in a hurry...
 
I agree with you to a certain point. I feel your point on kids being traumatized.

Yet, there a lot of white parents who fail to discipline their kids. These kids seem to be super entitled; yet, when face with any type of rejection they can't cope. These people tend to go from one extreme to the other in a hurry...

You don't learn how to deal with rejection or adversity through beatings. Well you do but what you learn is force not persuasion.

You learn from experience or from other people you respect. Adversity should come from life not your family. When we look at our children and see behaviors we don't like we have to always ask ourselves who are they emulating? If you get to the root of why they want to be this image (a thug a gangsta etc) you will often find either the pain or the dream. For some they want to feel powerful and safe for some they want more from life(ambition). They be these characters because they don't know how to be powerful or how to feel safe so they act like someone they feel has that power. Let us be the people we want our children to be and we won't have to beat them. As long as we look at them as beings we must control and dominate then the will turn to people who will use their dream or pain for their own purposes. These coaches these scammers these gang leaders take our children because all the people with sense "ain't got time for the knuckleheads".

I was watching the Rich Paul interview on sixty minutes and his dad owned a corner store. The whole time his dad was alive he was on the right path when his dad died and he no longer had that role model he respected he started selling drugs. Lucky for him his dad built enough foundation in him that he went back to the root of how he was raised and now has a 100million dollar company. The point is discipline didn't come from getting beat or not getting beat. It came from being there for the child. Providing an example is wayyyyy more helpful then providing a punishment.
Especially when they are kids their story is not written they can always change. If we become that shining star that a kid can aspire too and they see us as real and achievable then they won't need the streets to raise them.

Black people can be the best parents on earth but we never learned how. The love we have for our children is unmatched. We got to get back to that community love for the kids. But it takes us fostering community and holding ourselves accountable for how we move and how kids pick up on that.
 
We’re talking about a specific type of programming and what’s being programmed my g.

I’ve expressed my opinion in this thread.
Really you expressed your opinion already? Gee whiz, I couldn't tell! I thought you were just spraying shit all over my monitor. Gtfoh with that wack ass passive aggressive bullshit doggy, I have a superior observational and comprehension skills. With all that being said you're gonna have to explain the cultural and behavioral divergence of the BLACK populace from pre-1960's era to now?

You act like you don't know they censure music, television, and movies all the time ESPECIALLY in the pre-internet era. As my guy said (and I have said in those exact words on this site damn near 20 years ago).

"They call it programming for a reason."
-Howard Bloom
The Lucifer Principle
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Really you expressed your opinion already? Gee whiz, I couldn't tell! I thought you were just spraying shit all over my monitor. Gtfoh with that wack ass passive aggressive bullshit doggy, I have a superior observational and comprehension skills. With all that being said you're gonna have to explain the cultural and behavioral divergence of the BLACK populace from pre-1960's era to now?

You act like you don't know they censure music, television, and movies all the time ESPECIALLY in the pre-internet era. As my guy said (and I have said in those exact words on this site damn near 20 years ago).

"They call it programming for a reason."
-Howard Bloom
The Lucifer Principle
content

"Passive aggressive"?

I simply told you that I expressed my opinion in this thread so that you could go back one page and read it. So that you could have a better understanding of what we were talking about.

More importantly to save myself from typing the exact same thing again.

Myself and the posters that I was speaking to came to an understanding of where each other was coming from.

Unfortunately your superior observational skills didn't read what I said, and then created a perception so far removed from the reality that I don't care to engage in any discussion with you on this issue.

Have a good night.
 
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