Transgenders in society: What’s your take?

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So they're taking performance de-enhancement drugs??

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:smh: The Kardashians did a number on poor Bruce

Several new scenes featured trans pornstars

Fuck around with the site and find out... :giggle:

Did they make a separate "TRANS" category or throw it right on the main site? I know porn sites/campsites make it a separate category you have to click on but I've been seeing one or two pop up in the main category section on some sites :mad:
 
1,000 years ago they were 0.1% of the population. Today they are 0.1% of the population. 1,000 years from now they'll be 0.1% of the population. I couldn't care less about the issue. If they try to teach my daughter some bullshit about it at school I'll just tell her no, that's just a man who likes to wear dresses.
 
Great post and I see where you’re coming from with the forcing and changing of the status quo.

I’d love to hear a woman’s stance on this cause from what I’m hearing, many women feel disrespected that men are coming into their spaces and, more or less, slapping them in the face with this movement. Many feel that womanhood is sacred and should be protected and it’s being taken away by men who can’t fathom what they go through. The rights women have fought for because words no longer have meaning eg. “Man” & “Woman.” Maybe @Camille & @cocobeauty can chime in on this.

Again, I don’t mind them existing. Wear a dress all you want but don’t force your ways onto people or align yourself with a struggle you’ve never endured.

The sports things is where its tough.

It ruins competition in womens sports realistically. Women cant compete with men biologically, and that is a fact.

I'm not talking about simply being gay. Go on youtube and type up "detransitioning". There are hundreds of videos on the subject from people who desransitioned and one of the biggest things they pointed (well many pointed) to was that they internet and pressure was a factor. Many of them outlined what I mentioned. They felt weird and like outsiders being that they were already gay, but the next step was to transition.
Isnt youth a time to make choices, make mistakes, and live(and grow) past them?

I know plenty of friends who wanted to fit in and be cool too when it came to things like smoking, or not taking school serious. It fucked them up in many ways they cant change, but that is part of being young. You name a person who cant look back at themselves as kids and think: "What the fuck was I doing?" and I can name a person who hasnt grown since that point :lol:
 
I know plenty of friends who wanted to fit in and be cool too when it came to things like smoking, or not taking school serious. It fucked them up in many ways they cant change, but that is part of being young. You name a person who cant look back at themselves as kids and think: "What the fuck was I doing?" and I can name a person who hasnt grown since that point :lol:

You can't come back from cutting your dick off. I'm just saying.
 
1,000 years ago they were 0.1% of the population. Today they are 0.1% of the population. 1,000 years from now they'll be 0.1% of the population. I couldn't care less about the issue. If they try to teach my daughter some bullshit about it at school I'll just tell her no, that's just a man who likes to wear dresses.
That stat makes no sense considering many LGBT are in the closet. Then now and in the future.
 
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1,000 years ago they were 0.1% of the population. Today they are 0.1% of the population. 1,000 years from now they'll be 0.1% of the population. I couldn't care less about the issue. If they try to teach my daughter some bullshit about it at school I'll just tell her no, that's just a man who likes to wear dresses.
That's the thing. This is manufactured outrage. Since when does less then 1% of anything get the most attention. Clorox doesn't kill 100% of bacteria, but no one is running around yelling about the 1% of things it can't eliminate. A 1% owner in a company doesn't really have a say in the boardroom. The people pushing all they anti-trans shit knows the grifting boogeyman game is profitable because Americans are dumb as fuck. Most of the hate for trans people, comes from people that have never met a trans person. Vermont is 90% white. If a Vermont person is saying they hate black people, they're basing their opinion solely off of what they've heard. It could be true, it could be a lie, but they're believing someone telling them something that most likely has an agenda.
 
That's the thing. This is manufactured outrage. Since when does less then 1% of anything get the most attention. Clorox doesn't kill 100% of bacteria, but no one is running around yelling about the 1% of things it can't eliminate. A 1% owner in a company doesn't really have a say in the boardroom. The people pushing all they anti-trans shit knows the grifting boogeyman game is profitable because Americans are dumb as fuck. Most of the hate for trans people, comes from people that have never met a trans person. Vermont is 90% white. If a Vermont person is saying they hate black people, they're basing their opinion solely off of what they've heard. It could be true, it could be a lie, but they're believing someone telling them something that most likely has an agenda.
Say something anti-Semitic and see what happens from that less than 1%. Quality over quantity my friend.

I digress.

Moving forward, I have met a couple of them, seen them openly around the city and know one in my personal life.

I’m convinced there’s a couple loose screws in their mentale regardless of what their gender diagnosis is.
 
Say something anti-Semitic and see what happens from that less than 1%. Quality over quantity my friend.

I digress.

Moving forward, I have met a couple of them, seen them openly around the city and know one in my personal life.

I’m convinced there’s a couple loose screws in their mentale regardless of what their gender diagnosis is.
I hate to "yeah, but", but how many normal people are out of their fucking minds? I've watched enough Jordan Klepper and Good Liars videos to see that the average Trump supporter can't even explain why they like Trump. At work everyday, I have to explain tech to people that think they know more than me, but if they did, why am I even there?

I'm seeing that there are indeed multiple realities. There is the actual time and space which we all exist in, and then there is the personal bubble we all sit in that blocks out the actual reality and helps us to create our own. At the end of the day, I really don't care. I play videogames, and I've called people whatever the fuck they wanted to be called. My real life problems of trying to get a solid 5 minute standup routine and perfecting chicken and waffle cupcakes is more important than hating some guy in a dress or some lady wearing flannel.
 
I've given my opinion on this in other threads

But I'll say this.

For transgenders to go from being at the bottom of the gay social totem pole in the 2000s to now driving the LGBTQ car (as Chappelle would say) is strange and leads me to believe that an agenda is definitely at play.

The real clash will be when TERFS (trans-exclusionary radical feminists) and Lesbians start to go at transwomen because of issues related to women, women's rights, transwomen being put in spaces set aside for real women, and the issue of lesbians not wanting to date transwomen because lesbians do not want dick and they don't care how you feel or identify.
 
I've given my opinion on this in other threads

But I'll say this.

For transgenders to go from being at the bottom of the gay social totem pole in the 2000s to now driving the LGBTQ car (as Chappelle would say) is strange and leads me to believe that an agenda is definitely at play.

The real clash will be when TERFS (trans-exclusionary radical feminists) and Lesbians start to go at transwomen because of issues related to women, women's rights, transwomen being put in spaces set aside for real women, and the issue of lesbians not wanting to date transwomen because lesbians do not want dick and they don't care how you feel or identify.
How the T’s ended up driving this car, I’ll never know.

But what you mentioned is already happening. Women, natural born women that is, feminists, lesbians are taking a stand against trans women and taking back the spaces they created and fought for. They feel as their womanhood is under attack and frankly, I have a tough time disagreeing with them.
 
I hate to "yeah, but", but how many normal people are out of their fucking minds? I've watched enough Jordan Klepper and Good Liars videos to see that the average Trump supporter can't even explain why they like Trump. At work everyday, I have to explain tech to people that think they know more than me, but if they did, why am I even there?

I'm seeing that there are indeed multiple realities. There is the actual time and space which we all exist in, and then there is the personal bubble we all sit in that blocks out the actual reality and helps us to create our own. At the end of the day, I really don't care. I play videogames, and I've called people whatever the fuck they wanted to be called. My real life problems of trying to get a solid 5 minute standup routine and perfecting chicken and waffle cupcakes is more important than hating some guy in a dress or some lady wearing flannel.
I get your stance and I agree with it to a certain extent but it would seem set a dangerous precedent.

If we lay claim to there being multiple realities as you say, then we’re simultaneously saying that there is no one truth, which gives words absolutely no meaning.

And if that’s the case, Rachel Dolezal is indeed a black woman…

Oxygen is indeed a fruit..

And the blood in our veins is a suspension bridge…

Where does it end if we strip away the actual truth for multiple realities existing without definition?
 
I've given my opinion on this in other threads

But I'll say this.

For transgenders to go from being at the bottom of the gay social totem pole in the 2000s to now driving the LGBTQ car (as Chappelle would say) is strange and leads me to believe that an agenda is definitely at play.

The real clash will be when TERFS (trans-exclusionary radical feminists) and Lesbians start to go at transwomen because of issues related to women, women's rights, transwomen being put in spaces set aside for real women, and the issue of lesbians not wanting to date transwomen because lesbians do not want dick and they don't care how you feel or identify.
Chappelle said what the agenda is...the ONLY reason this is getting as much traction that it has is because white men are the face of it. You got a whole country of "ladyboys" in the Philippines for the last 30 years and NO ONE ever made the case they were real women.

MUCH of trans and drag culture is driven by black people and NO ONE thru the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s made the case that black drag and trans were real women.

In the last 20 years white men have been more vocal about the shit and all of sudden trans women are women???

its clear whose driving the agenda. Like I said...it smacks of white privilege.


But whats going to make the trans issue come to a head is when black and brown women are affected in really prime time sports. Its just bubbling now because the sports are not high profile and collegiate and the women affected are mostly white.

Imagine whats going to happen when trans women start breaking Simone Biles record in gymnastics or Elaine Thompson and flo jo's record in track or Serena in tennis or play in the WNBA and completely dominate including playing above the rim and dunking regularly on black and brown women.

Then theres going to be a problem...a HUGE problem....
 
Chappelle said what the agenda is...the ONLY reason this is getting as much traction that it has is because white men are the face of it. You got a whole country of "ladyboys" in the Philippines for the last 30 years and NO ONE ever made the case they were real women.

MUCH of trans and drag culture is driven by black people and NO ONE thru the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s made the case that black drag and trans were real women.

In the last 20 years white men have been more vocal about the shit and all of sudden trans women are women???

its clear whose driving the agenda. Like I said...it smacks of white privilege.


But whats going to make the trans issue come to a head is when black and brown women are affected in really prime time sports. Its just bubbling now because the sports are not high profile and collegiate and the women affected are mostly white.

Imagine whats going to happen when trans women start breaking Simone Biles record in gymnastics or Elaine Thompson and flo jo's record in track or Serena in tennis or play in the WNBA and completely dominate including playing above the rim and dunking regularly on black and brown women.

Then theres going to be a problem...a HUGE problem....
I don't think a trans person will be breaking any records. If that was the case, they would have done it in their original sex. Agreed, a dude is stronger then most women, but if a trans dude is breaking flo jo's record, that motherfucker is flying. Even profession male athletes have a problem running her times. The best males 100 meter runner, which is Bolt ran 9.58 seconds. That brother was flying. But most mofo run about a 10 second 100. If a trans is running that, then why would he want to run against a woman. He would be good enough to make money and compete with other men. It will be a few more years of this, but it will come down to the ending of this trans thing in sports. Hell, you got woman who they are telling not to run because they are having too much testosterone in their blood. Hell, they are real woman, but they ain't pretty. But they have a natural pussy. Shit will work out. This issue, I believe is they want people of color not to procreate. It comes down to that. Less black babies, the more white power will be able to stay around.
 
I don't think a trans person will be breaking any records. If that was the case, they would have done it in their original sex. Agreed, a dude is stronger then most women, but if a trans dude is breaking flo jo's record, that motherfucker is flying. Even profession male athletes have a problem running her times. The best males 100 meter runner, which is Bolt ran 9.58 seconds. That brother was flying. But most mofo run about a 10 second 100. If a trans is running that, then why would he want to run against a woman. He would be good enough to make money and compete with other men. It will be a few more years of this, but it will come down to the ending of this trans thing in sports. Hell, you got woman who they are telling not to run because they are having too much testosterone in their blood. Hell, they are real woman, but they ain't pretty. But they have a natural pussy. Shit will work out. This issue, I believe is they want people of color not to procreate. It comes down to that. Less black babies, the more white power will be able to stay around.
The 10s those guys were running where high 10s tho...look at the times of this race

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The SLOWEST male there is running 10.30...FloJo's record is 10.49...Elaine Thompson is 10.54....Sharcarri and Sherika can run 10.60s. If a trans sprinter can be on the field with them in the first place then its likely they can realistically break those times. I'll put it this way it wouldnt be shocking to see the first "woman" hit 10.50...just one tick below FloJo. And if that were to happen it would make every ones case for why trans women shouldn't be competing with biological females. Her record has stood for over 30 YEARS...and in all that time only one woman has come within the ballpark of touching it. And mind you over all that time there were women busted for PEDs and actively cheating and still couldnt do it.

You gonna tell me a trans woman doing it wouldnt raise eyebrows??
 

‘Tide is turning’ in fight over trans women in sports: Advocate

Female college athletes have shifted the narrative surrounding transgender participation in sports, framing it as a women’s rights issue rather than a matter of pronouns or biology.

This shift in framing has become pivotal in the ongoing political debate surrounding the topic and marks a significant change from the past, when such a stance might have led to accusations of bigotry.
 
You can't come back from cutting your dick off. I'm just saying.
:lol: :lol: :lol: I mean theres a lot of things kids cant, and dont, come back from that we still allow them to do.

In the affirmative action thread there was a dude bemoaning the fact that it could hurt him being a splitter(low gpa/high test score) for law school. There are many choices we made as kids and young adults that fundamentally shaped the lives we live today, but that doesnt mean we stop kids from making any decision just because they cant come back from every decision they make. At a point you have to let a kid live, and learn, from the decisions they make.

If I had a kid I think I could only let them go as far as puberty blockers, and that would only be after a lot of therapy for the family. Even then I would support them if they decided that at 18 they wanted to chop or do whatever.
 
I'm not talking about simply being gay. Go on youtube and type up "detransitioning". There are hundreds of videos on the subject from people who desransitioned and one of the biggest things they pointed (well many pointed) to was that they internet and pressure was a factor. Many of them outlined what I mentioned. They felt weird and like outsiders being that they were already gay, but the next step was to transition.

Do you know the percentage who detransition or regret transitioning?
 
Respect is a two way street. The disrespect only comes when respect isn’t given, which seems to be often with this community.

If regular people are asking you not to call them “cisgender”, then you should respect this as well, not feel entitled to force your ways onto people and children.

Exist but co-exist.
Are only people in the majority “regular”? Are disabled people irregular? Are gay people or racial and religious minorities?

It seems disrespectful to start a conversation by declaring a community separate from “regular people.”
 
For me is should be considered rape if you don’t disclose a sex change to someone before having sex.

That’s pretty much all I require

I would agree if we were talking about AIDS. Why is it important under this circumstance though? In the first, tangible harm could result; that’s just not the case in the second situation.
 
i can care less if transgenders dress to their opposite or sex change and all that good stuff as long as you are grown. i don't think children should be making such decisions till they get 18 then do whatthe fuck you wanna do. i can't speak on their battles but figure the shit gotta be frustrating. i'd hope they could see it would be shocking and i guess different for us out here seeing somebody they know and thought they knew now being trans. thats a lot for for a lot of people to take in.
 
Chappelle said what the agenda is...the ONLY reason this is getting as much traction that it has is because white men are the face of it. You got a whole country of "ladyboys" in the Philippines for the last 30 years and NO ONE ever made the case they were real women.
I saw a documentary on this a few years ago, and it's not only limited to Phillipines. They consider trans the third gender. I don't get it, I'll never get it, but that doesn't mean my lack of understanding is cause for hate.
 
I spoke with my students about this yesterday. This is a losing battle to those that think this shit is going away.

We have reached generational normalcy. The kids (23 and under) think it’s fine and normal as hell. Not all, but many seem to not give a shit. Plus, these kids grew up in the anti-bullying era so that also plays a huge role in how things are accepted among their peers.
 
I’d hope they could see it would be shocking and i guess different for us out here seeing somebody they know and thought they knew now being trans. thats a lot for for a lot of people to take in.

so a young lady I was speaking with thought little of this. These young’s fight so hard for change that they complete disregarded how other folk that struggles with understanding. I broke it down to the young lady like this because this is a first hand experience that I have witnessed.

A mother raises a daughter for over 18 years thinking that this daughter will have give her grandchildren and they’ll have baby showers and shit. However, the daughter no longer feels like a girl and goes through a transition. The daughter, now a trans man, is living her life and gets married to a woman. Now, they have a baby together, and the mother who now has a trans man for a daughter has to watch “him” at a baby shower with “his” wife who happens to be a very traditional woman that is gay.

Exactly how is the mother suppose to take all that in? They think folk is just suppose to accept it and move on. That’s a lot.
 
Are only people in the majority “regular”? Are disabled people irregular? Are gay people or racial and religious minorities?

It seems disrespectful to start a conversation by declaring a community separate from “regular people.”
Biological and natural men and women, regardless of race, sexual preference or religious affiliation, are what most people around the world would consider regular.

That usually is the majority.
 
I spoke with my students about this yesterday. This is a losing battle to those that think this shit is going away.

We have reached generational normalcy. The kids (23 and under) think it’s fine and normal as hell. Not all, but many seem to not give a shit. Plus, these kids grew up in the anti-bullying era so that also plays a huge role in how things are accepted among their peers.
It’s the era of inclusion which has been blown wide open. All these kids are growing up with pronouns and it’s dinosaurs like myself that’s struggling to adapt to the change.

My question is where does this end? What are the defining markers if we no longer have them? Men can be women and women can be men. Is race next? Can white people now be black? It all feels problematic but it’s no longer my world to inherit so maybe it doesn’t matter for us old timers.
 
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