BGOL’s influx of Anti Voting, Anti Democrat, Anti Obama Plants

[AllUniverse17]

My answer to your questions is for black people to start becoming a swing voter and not be a loyal voter. I don’t even know why we have a 7 page thread. Every other group does the same strategy when it comes to politics. Blacks people are the only group that are happy to vote blindly for a party and get nothing in return.

Local, State, and National. Don’t vote for anybody unless they are bringing tangibles and benefits to your community.

Republicans and Democrats are pretty much like a coin. It’s all right wing and left wing white supremacy

They both exploit there base for there only bidding.

Republicans use racism on these poor white rednecks so they can get tax cuts for there donor class. They will use scare taxes like immigration and blacks takin over. Keep us in power !

Democrats use Big government like food stamps and welfare on blacks to keep blacks in a permanent underclass. They use scare tactics like the republicans will cut your social programs. They whole goal is to keep blacks in a permanent underclass so blacks can’t compete with these white liberals for jobs and resources.

Are you saying those things should be cut?

Theres more cacs on those programs then there are black peeps. Alot more.

Can you explain how cutting those programs will actually help elevate the black community out of the underclass?

Also, if that is really the Dems ultimate goal, what is a few campaign promises gonna change? Those promises arent written in stone you know. So if thats what you really believe about the Dems, you should be telling everyone to never vote for them again.

 

[mangobob79]

then copy and paste i didn't see those times....

if its a list then c/p...if its a link then post it and I'm not trawling thru 79 pages of bullshit in that ADOS thread.. if theres is a concise list of demands (tangibles) that are ONLY for black americans and affect black americans....whats on that list???

hey dude you may have a valid point that I agree with...im open to that... but so far all you've done is talk shit.

Spoiler: Spoiler

*looks around* *whispers* There is no list.

 

[Big Tex]

lmao

 

[Big Tex]

That's gonna be one hungry ass bear...

 

[Drayonis]

Don King Said it best when it comes to
Black Folks.

We are the easiest group of people to hustle. Black people are happy with crumbs while other groups want the whole cake.

Why do you care if we vote so much? According to you voting dosen't matter. So why are you concerned that we do it?

 

[Camille]

Why do you care if we vote so much? According to you voting dosen't matter. So why are you concerned that we do it?

I asked the same exact question below.

The height of Russian propaganda spreading on social media. Real grievances and valid anger being redirected to poor solutions for the purpose of sowing discord in the US.

There are legitimate issues that need to be addressed, but giving up what little power we have by not voting is not the answer. Withdrawing from the process that determines how our lives are governed is not the answer.

Whether you participate in the process or not, laws that are passed affect us for good or ill. If you participate, you can choose representatives who will vote, in most cases, they way you would choose to. Or who support issues that matter to you such as healthcare, gun control, climate change etc.

You don't want to vote, think both parties are the same, voting changes nothing, but are hip deep in every political thread posted on here. You haven't simply decided to withdraw because you don't think it matters, you are actively trying to discourage others from participating.

Why do you care if someone else is willing to spend a day or two out the year exercising their civic options? I comment on people not participating because i see value in the process. I think it's important and that our voice is diminished if we aren't active. You don't see value, you say whether we vote or not it's all the same, so why are you fighting so hard to make sure this sameness manifests under black voters sitting out? There has to be some benefit or payoff for this. You're investing too much time in asking us to be silent. IMO, you lose the right to bitch and complain when you aren't in the mix. Don't complain about Trump, the GOP, dems or anyone else if you aren't voting for or against a person, policy etc.
.

 

[xfactor]

Why do you care if we vote so much? According to you voting dosen't matter. So why are you concerned that we do it?

nobody cares, atleast I don’t.

the problem is you and others trying to bully, guilt and shame independent so-called blacks into blindly voting democrat and that ain’t going to cut it anymore, especially at the national level.

that’s what it has always been about and to say the opposite is dishonest.

you can vote Democrat every time for the rest of your life and I couldn’t care less but I’m not voting for any candidate unless they are talking policy specifically for me and my community’s improvement and progression.

 

[geechiedan]

nobody cares, atleast I don’t.

the problem is you and others trying to bully, guilt and shame independent so-called blacks into blindly voting democrat and that ain’t going to cut it anymore, especially at the national level.

that’s what it has always been about and to say the opposite is dishonest.

you can vote Democrat every time for the rest of your life and I couldn’t care less but I’m not voting for any candidate unless they are talking policy specifically for me and my community’s improvement and progression.

Then you have no dog in the fight and shouldn't participate in political threads. Problem solved.

 

[Drayonis]

nobody cares, atleast I don’t.

Bullshit. This is a lie. You try to "@" us in multple posts when we aren't even involved. It burns your lil' soul to know we are voting despite your squirrelly shit attempts to dissuade us.

 

[Drayonis]

Then you have no dog in the fight and shouldn't participate in political threads. Problem solved.

Right? You ain't voting. Then why give a fuck who does? Then try to spin it that We are attacking him? Real fucking "Trump" logic.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Let's be real though. In most cases a person's vote really doesn't matter.

In 2016 my ex-girlfriend got in a lot of shit for telling people on social media that she couldn't vote for either Trump or Clinton in good conscience. People called her a sell-out, trump supporter, blamed her for being the reason this country is going to hell, etc.

In reality though, when you live in a place like California it really doesn't matter. she could have voted for Trump, Clinton, Mickey Mouse, or whoever and the results still would have been the same.

Likewise, I have a close friend who voted for Trump. As much hell as I gave him for it his vote really didn't matter either. At this point it's more about a philosophical debate than any kind of real change.

 

[mangobob79]

Let's be real though. In most cases a person's vote really doesn't matter.

In 2016 my ex-girlfriend got in a lot of shit for telling people on social media that she couldn't vote for either Trump or Clinton in good conscience. People called her a sell-out, trump supporter, blamed her for being the reason this country is going to hell, etc.

In reality though, when you live in a place like California it really doesn't matter. she could have voted for Trump, Clinton, Mickey Mouse, or whoever and the results still would have been the same.

Likewise, I have a close friend who voted for Trump. As much hell as I gave him for it his vote really didn't matter either. At this point it's more about a philosophical debate than any kind of real change.

im sorry but thats shortsighted

 

[rude_dog]

Let's be real though. In most cases a person's vote really doesn't matter.

In 2016 my ex-girlfriend got in a lot of shit for telling people on social media that she couldn't vote for either Trump or Clinton in good conscience. People called her a sell-out, trump supporter, blamed her for being the reason this country is going to hell, etc.

In reality though, when you live in a place like California it really doesn't matter. she could have voted for Trump, Clinton, Mickey Mouse, or whoever and the results still would have been the same.

Likewise, I have a close friend who voted for Trump. As much hell as I gave him for it his vote really didn't matter either. At this point it's more about a philosophical debate than any kind of real change.

A person who doesn't vote in the Presidential election probably doesn't vote at all. Even though California may be a blue state, you still have Republican members of the house you can vote out. Two of the biggest idiots, Devin Nunes and Kevin McCarthy, are from California. California even had a Republican Governor recently.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

A person who doesn't vote in the Presidential election probably doesn't vote at all. Even though California may be a blue state, you still have Republican members of the house you can vote out. Two of the biggest idiots, Devin Nunes and Kevin McCarthy, are from California. California even had a Republican Governor recently.

that's not necessarily true. My ex-girlfriend also voted London Breed for mayor of San Francisco.

In general though, California is so overwhelmingly blue that you can't really blame Republicans for all of the problems. It wasn't Californian Republicans that pushed gentrification at record rates. They aren't at fault for the homeless crisis. It wasn't Republicans that put housing developments on two radioactive former military bases in San Francisco. They certainly aren't at fault for all the police killings or political corruption in Oakland. It wasn't their fault that a massive forest fire killed 70 people and severely poisoned the air for 5 million others. Also, it was Democrats, not Republicans that allowed Google, Facebook, and apple create illegal monopolies, institute racist hiring practices and steal people's private information.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not caping for the red team here, but I completely understand why people are so disillusioned with Democrats.

 

[mangobob79]

that's not necessarily true. My ex-girlfriend also voted London Breed for mayor of San Francisco.

In general though, California is so overwhelmingly blue that you can't really blame Republicans for all of the problems. It wasn't Californian Republicans that pushed gentrification at record rates. They aren't at fault for the homeless crisis. It wasn't Republicans that put housing developments on two radioactive former military bases in San Francisco. They certainly aren't at fault for all the police killings or political corruption in Oakland. It wasn't their fault that a massive forest fire killed 70 people and severely poisoned the air for 5 million others. Also, it was Democrats, not Republicans that allowed Google, Facebook, and apple create illegal monopolies, institute racist hiring practices and steal people's private information.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not caping for the red team here, but I completely understand why people are so disillusioned with Democrats.

so democrats are supposed to be perfect or else we vote repub to spite our faces? no one has ever said they are perfect or even close, no party will solve all the problems or ills of society !!
repub counties are some of the poorest in the country with little to no healthcare, it doesnt stop them for voting repub,

but some of u dem catch a cold and suddenly start screaming "demolish the dem party( not reform, not rebuild but demolish it !)
thats not how it works unfortunately, as we know things are always in flux , now can we get money out fo politics before w eeven begin any real change?
atleast lets all be honest

 

[Big Tex]

Bullshit. This is a lie. You try to "@" us in multple posts when we aren't even involved. It burns your lil' soul to know we are voting despite your squirrelly shit attempts to dissuade us.

I haven’t responded to him in weeks and he’s still @ing me lol. Wasting perfectly good electrons.

 

[rude_dog]

that's not necessarily true. My ex-girlfriend also voted London Breed for mayor of San Francisco.

In general though, California is so overwhelmingly blue that you can't really blame Republicans for all of the problems. It wasn't Californian Republicans that pushed gentrification at record rates. They aren't at fault for the homeless crisis. It wasn't Republicans that put housing developments on two radioactive former military bases in San Francisco. They certainly aren't at fault for all the police killings or political corruption in Oakland. It wasn't their fault that a massive forest fire killed 70 people and severely poisoned the air for 5 million others. Also, it was Democrats, not Republicans that allowed Google, Facebook, and apple create illegal monopolies, institute racist hiring practices and steal people's private information.

Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not caping for the red team here, but I completely understand why people are so disillusioned with Democrats.

I'm not following you here and you don't need to respond. I'm not a California resident so I don't have much background on these issues but they didn't just occur overnight. The conditions in California have been building for some time since before it was just a blue state so I don't know how you can put it all on one side. I would have to know the past in able to have opinions about the state of California.

And you're conflating two separate issues. California has very little control over what Google, Facebook and Apple do, that's a federal issue in which the GOP plays a major part.

You can't blame police killings on either party. Sure Democrats may be the party in power but what is the political affilation of the cop who did the shooting, of the sergeant who responded to the scene who helped him write a false narrative, of the investigator who intentionally overlooked damning evidence?

 

[mangobob79]

I'm not following you here and you don't need to respond. I'm not a California resident so I don't have much background on these issues but they didn't just occur overnight. The conditions in California have been building for some time since before it was just a blue state so I don't know how you can put it all on one side. I would have to know the past in able to have opinions about the state of California.

And you're conflating two separate issues. California has very little control over what Google, Facebook and Apple do, that's a federal issue in which the GOP plays a major part.

You can't blame police killings on either party. Sure Democrats may be the party in power but what is the political affilation of the cop who did the shooting, of the sergeant who responded to the scene who helped him write a false narrative, of the investigator who intentionally overlooked damning evidence?

bruh ! i tell you, people be missing the forest for the trees man!

 

[Dannyblueyes]

I'm not following you here and you don't need to respond. I'm not a California resident so I don't have much background on these issues but they didn't just occur overnight. The conditions in California have been building for some time since before it was just a blue state so I don't know how you can put it all on one side. I would have to know the past in able to have opinions about the state of California.

And you're conflating two separate issues. California has very little control over what Google, Facebook and Apple do, that's a federal issue in which the GOP plays a major part.

You can't blame police killings on either party. Sure Democrats may be the party in power but what is the political affilation of the cop who did the shooting, of the sergeant who responded to the scene who helped him write a false narrative, of the investigator who intentionally overlooked damning evidence?

I don't know the political affiliations of these officers. I wouldn't be surprised if there was just as many blue as red though. There are plenty of race soldiers in America as well as the rest of the world that believe in social programs and environmental protections.

While I agree that the tech monopolies I'm mostly a federal GOP creation the local democratic governments did absolutely nothing to make sure that they had a diverse hiring base. They did absolutely nothing to make sure that high school students of color were well-equipped to take advantage of these industries either.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

so democrats are supposed to be perfect or else we vote repub to spite our faces? no one has ever said they are perfect or even close, no party will solve all the problems or ills of society !!
repub counties are some of the poorest in the country with little to no healthcare, it doesnt stop them for voting repub,

but some of u dem catch a cold and suddenly start screaming "demolish the dem party( not reform, not rebuild but demolish it !)
thats not how it works unfortunately, as we know things are always in flux , now can we get money out fo politics before w eeven begin any real change?
atleast lets all be honest

they don't have to be perfect, they just have to do a hell of a lot better than this!

 

[Dr. Truth]

I haven’t responded to him in weeks and he’s still @ing me lol. Wasting perfectly good electrons.

I got that white man on ignore because he keeps tagging me . Obviously he’s a plant troll Russian agent

 

[geechiedan]

Let's be real though. In most cases a person's vote really doesn't matter.

In 2016 my ex-girlfriend got in a lot of shit for telling people on social media that she couldn't vote for either Trump or Clinton in good conscience. People called her a sell-out, trump supporter, blamed her for being the reason this country is going to hell, etc.

In reality though, when you live in a place like California it really doesn't matter. she could have voted for Trump, Clinton, Mickey Mouse, or whoever and the results still would have been the same.

Likewise, I have a close friend who voted for Trump. As much hell as I gave him for it his vote really didn't matter either. At this point it's more about a philosophical debate than any kind of real change.

Voting nationally may feel pointless if you live in blue or red state...but locally it means a lot more. Also I dare any conscious black person to say they didn't cast their vote in 2008 to see the first black person with a credible shot run for president...you DIDN'T cast your vote in an actual historical moment??

 

[TheyCallMeBe]

Hold on don't be so quick to judge.

I have exclusive footage of forcesteeler unveiling all of the prizes we'll be getting in 2024 after not voting for close to 5 years........

Which is, unfortunately, the same thing we’ve been getting. I’m not necessarily on board with the not voting thing but I do believe that there’s good to be had from the perspectives of both sides on this with the issues we have with the modern political system and process. There needs to be some drastic form of mobilization of the black vote. Should we form PACs and lobby more efficiently? Should we protest or demonstrate in front of campaign offices? Find a mutual interest within the opposing party that can push our agenda through? Let’s take this passion within the disagreement to move forward since we ultimately want the same thing.

 

[Drayonis]

I haven’t responded to him in weeks and he’s still @ing me lol. Wasting perfectly good electrons.

Yeah im getting ready to put the moron on ignore too. Dude begs for attention though. Him and Kingdingaling. They need someone to argue with or their time here becomes fruitless.

 

[mangobob79]

Yeah im getting ready to put the moron on ignore too. Dude begs for attention though. Him and Kingdingaling. They need someone to argue with or their time here becomes fruitless.

and dont challenge anything they say or ask for proof, cos they go POOF! to another thread once u ask for proof of their accusations

 

[forcesteeler]

Likewise, I have a close friend who voted for Trump. As much hell as I gave him for it his vote really didn't matter either. At this point it's more about a philosophical debate than any kind of real change.

Yeah one of my asian friends kinda open my eyes when it comes to politics. It’s all pretty much philosophical.

People act like trump being in office that some how it’s stopping them from living or making money.

Especially when it comes to the black community. When I drive down the hood. It’s been the same when Obama was president and it’s still the same when trump became president.

No politician is going to really change your life. You have to put in the effort to change your life.

Asian and Arabs are some of the richest immigrants in America and they hardly vote nor do they care who the president is. Money does not go anywhere it simply gets transferred. So you have to stack your money and invest in industry’s that are taking off.

Most people are lazy and it’s easy to wait on someone or a politician to change there life. Nothing is really going to change. Most politicians are funded by the Rich and Corporate America. That’s why things rally change.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

Yeah one of my asian friends kinda open my eyes when it comes to politics. It’s all pretty much philosophical.

People act like trump being in office that some how it’s stopping them from living or making money.

Especially when it comes to the black community. When I drive down the hood. It’s been the same when Obama was president and it’s still the same when trump became president.

No politician is going to really change your life. You have to put in the effort to change your life.

Asian and Arabs are some of the richest immigrants in America and they hardly vote nor do they care who the president is. Money does not go anywhere it simply gets transferred. So you have to stack your money and invest in industry’s that are taking off.

Most people are lazy and it’s easy to wait on someone or a politician to change there life. Nothing is really going to change. Most politicians are funded by the Rich and Corporate America. That’s why things rally change.

This is the mindset our people should adopt. I often share this exact same sentiment with my students. I tell every student a quote a Jewish mentor of mine once told me.....

"Put yourself in an economic position so that despite who the president is, you and your family will still be ok."

 

[forcesteeler]

This is the mindset our people should adopt. I often share this exact same sentiment with my students. I tell every student a quote a Jewish mentor of mine once told me.....

"Put yourself in an economic position so that despite who the president is, you and your family will still be ok."

Yup the republicans and trump are not stopping you from investing in a barbershop. Owning Real estate or investing in stocks and investing.

 

[geechiedan]

This is the mindset our people should adopt. I often share this exact same sentiment with my students. I tell every student a quote a Jewish mentor of mine once told me.....

"Put yourself in an economic position so that despite who the president is, you and your family will still be ok."

Yup the republicans and trump are not stopping you from investing in a barbershop. Owning Real estate or investing in stocks and investing.

That's all good but voting (particularly local) influences laws like zoning and taxes etc... sending representatives can influence national laws like immigration and social safety nets.

You talk about Jews saying stack money and investments but Jews also dominate the legal field...most senators and congressman are lawyers... Jews know how to LOBBY.. what's lobbying... INFLUENCING the lawmakers. What do you think AIPAC is? The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is a lobbying group that advocates pro-Israel policies to the Congress and Executive Branch of the United States.

So while you all think voting is pointless...the people telling you NOT TO are using the fuck out of the political system.

You are being duped.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Yeah one of my asian friends kinda open my eyes when it comes to politics. It’s all pretty much philosophical.

People act like trump being in office that some how it’s stopping them from living or making money.

Especially when it comes to the black community. When I drive down the hood. It’s been the same when Obama was president and it’s still the same when trump became president.

No politician is going to really change your life. You have to put in the effort to change your life.

Asian and Arabs are some of the richest immigrants in America and they hardly vote nor do they care who the president is. Money does not go anywhere it simply gets transferred. So you have to stack your money and invest in industry’s that are taking off.

Most people are lazy and it’s easy to wait on someone or a politician to change there life. Nothing is really going to change. Most politicians are funded by the Rich and Corporate America. That’s why things rally change.

I agree with a lot of what you said, except for one thing.

politicians can and do change lives.

My oldest daughter is autistic. It was a local politician that advocated for her to get into a special program that helped her learn to read, write talk and use the bathroom. She's now in her second year of college.

The craziest part was that this particular politician was a conservative Bible thumper. I disagree with pretty much everything she stood for, but she just happened to have a son with the same condition.

This is also why I stand by district supervisor. He's fighting to stop a road toll that would cost residents of my neighborhood an extra $200 a month and devastate local business. He's also fighting to ensure housing for everyone displaced by the new development.

With that said though, I'm still stacking my paper I'm looking for a place to move in case this guy ends up being corrupt or can't achieve what he promised.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

This thread is hilarious

 

[mangobob79]

That's all good but voting (particularly local) influences laws like zoning and taxes etc... sending representatives can influence national laws like immigration and social safety nets.

You talk about Jews saying stack money and investments but Jews also dominate the legal field...most senators and congressman are lawyers... Jews know how to LOBBY.. what's lobbying... INFLUENCING the lawmakers. What do you think AIPAC is? The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is a lobbying group that advocates pro-Israel policies to the Congress and Executive Branch of the United States.

So while you all think voting is pointless...the people telling you NOT TO are using the fuck out of the political system.

You are being duped.

They like to play dumb !! Its gotta be , nothing else makes sense at this point since we all started this thread on bgol. But the question is WHY?

 

[Dannyblueyes]

That's all good but voting (particularly local) influences laws like zoning and taxes etc... sending representatives can influence national laws like immigration and social safety nets.

You talk about Jews saying stack money and investments but Jews also dominate the legal field...most senators and congressman are lawyers... Jews know how to LOBBY.. what's lobbying... INFLUENCING the lawmakers. What do you think AIPAC is? The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is a lobbying group that advocates pro-Israel policies to the Congress and Executive Branch of the United States.

So while you all think voting is pointless...the people telling you NOT TO are using the fuck out of the political system.

You are being duped.

The problem isn't that voting is hopeless.

The problem is that we put our focus on the races with the least importance.

 

[Drayonis]

No politician is going to really change your life. You have to put in the effort to change your life.

If this is true and NONE of this matters. Why are you so invested in us not voting? It doesn't matter right? So voting should be as serious to you as buying a cup of coffee (no big deal).

Right? Right?

 

[forcesteeler]

If this is true and NONE of this matters. Why are you so invested in us not voting? It doesn't matter right? So voting should be as serious to you as buying a cup of coffee (no big deal).

Right? Right?

I never said do not vote. I say black people need to become a swing voter. Don’t just blindly vote for a party that has done absolutely nothing for you for the past 4 decades. Demand tangibles and if they are not willing not offer anything for your community do not vote!

Jews do not blindly vote. If they are voting. they are voting for tangibles. It’s the same with the LGBT mafia they had a whole CNN forum dedicated to there LGBT issues and they are asking politicians what tangibles and laws they are bringing to the table.

There is nothing wrong with asking a politician for tangibles. There is no way that we are the base of the Democratic Party and everybody else get laws and checks/tangibles and we don’t get shit for our community.

That’s the problem with black people and you can say even the whole African Continent when you look at history.

We allow people too come into our community and our land and eat off us and exploit us for penny’s on the dollar. We are just happy to be accepted and get a pat on the head.

Jews, immigrants, LGBT can get tangibles but the moment African Americans ask for something everybody looks at us funny.

Same-Thing with the Chinese and the Jews in Africa. They eat off diamonds and Rare materials like Coltan while Africans are poor and starving. African leaders allow outsiders to rape there land for maybe a few million in kickbacks. While if they took the time to build a economic base they could make trillions.

People are mad at ADOS especially White Liberals because for decades they can fool us. When they need something from us. The media always says “How can we increase black turnout”

Anytime they are talking about tangibles and benefits. The media always use “People of Color”

Because in white supremacy. The name of the game is not do anything for black folks. People of color can be. Immigrants, Gays and even women.

A lot of the democrats are mad because we are waking up too there hustle.

If they want power they better start breaking out checks like they do for other groups. We are not going to just sit here and vote blindly and our community’s are broke and in decay while
Other groups prosper! The hustle is over!