For dudes that don’t know, when Nixon was about to be investigated, he ordered his AG to fire the investigator and kept firing Attorneys General until he found one that would fire the special prosecuter. Look up the Saturday night massacre.
He was completely free to do it. The only thing that stopped him is that the Senate let him know they had the votes to remove him and he resigned. If republicans had stuck by him like they’re doing Trump, Nixon would have finished his term, tapes and all.
If we had the repubs from 20 years ago yeah but these repubs now ain’t moving. They will focus on Barr’s statement
And he can spin/sell the fuck outta that angle.
This is a really important point. Republicans learned a lot from the Nixon era. Roger Ailes's whole blueprint for Fox and managing the narrative was born directly out of his experience working for him during Watergate. Meanwhile, Dems are living in a fantasy reality where Republicans aren't constantly winning the war of shaping public opinion and where they need to walk on eggshells to avoid looking overly partisan or risk losing ground. It's infuriating.
Impeach the motherfucker.
If you impeach him, the Senate will rule him not guilty, and that’s all anyone will remember.
Interesting part on page 288... VERY FUCKING INTERESTING.... @easy_b and @Spectrum
Quoting the memo:
"The evidence does not establish that the termination of Comey was designed to cover up a conspiracy between the Trump Campaign and Russia; as described in volume 1, the evidence uncovered in the investigation did not establish that Trump or those close to him were involved in the Russian hacking. But THE EVIDENCE DOES INDICATE THAT A THROUGH FBI INVESTIGATION WOULD UNCOVER FACTS ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN AND THE PRESIDENT PERSONALLY THAT THE PRESIDENT COULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD TO BE CRIMES OR THAT WOULD GIVE RISE TO PERSONAL AND POLITICAL CONCERNS. .... Although the President publicly stated during and after the election that he had no connection to Russia, the Trump Organization through Michael Cohen was pursing the proposed Trump Tower Moscow and Candidate Trump was briefed on the progress of those efforts. .... IN ADDITION... , some witnesses said that Trump was aware that (REDACTED .. HARM TO ONGOING MATTER...) at a time when public reports stated that Russian Intelligence officials were behind the hacks and that Trump privately sought information about Future Wikileaks releases...
Jesus CHRIST... that RIGHT THERE... GAWD DAMN... that paragraph should be a thread...
My take is that Mueller basically let it be known that they had their hands tied behind their back.. and that if this were a Through FBI investigation.. they would have uncovered more facts about the Campaign that could be understood as Crimes..
Also was that redacted Statement referring to Stone and Wikileaks.
So is it possible the FBI will pick up where they left off?
Rosenstein letter appointing Mueller special counseli think this why.... There are a ton of redacted named at the bottom of this thing that were referred out.. Also why he Specifically referred The Cohen matter cause it came up from....
I think Mueller just said... If we had the full power of the FBI behind this thing.. We would have found all kinds of shit.
Yes Yes this is where the Southern District of New York come into play laterInteresting part on page 288... VERY FUCKING INTERESTING.... @easy_b and @Spectrum
Quoting the memo:
"The evidence does not establish that the termination of Comey was designed to cover up a conspiracy between the Trump Campaign and Russia; as described in volume 1, the evidence uncovered in the investigation did not establish that Trump or those close to him were involved in the Russian hacking. But THE EVIDENCE DOES INDICATE THAT A THROUGH FBI INVESTIGATION WOULD UNCOVER FACTS ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN AND THE PRESIDENT PERSONALLY THAT THE PRESIDENT COULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD TO BE CRIMES OR THAT WOULD GIVE RISE TO PERSONAL AND POLITICAL CONCERNS. .... Although the President publicly stated during and after the election that he had no connection to Russia, the Trump Organization through Michael Cohen was pursing the proposed Trump Tower Moscow and Candidate Trump was briefed on the progress of those efforts. .... IN ADDITION... , some witnesses said that Trump was aware that (REDACTED .. HARM TO ONGOING MATTER...) at a time when public reports stated that Russian Intelligence officials were behind the hacks and that Trump privately sought information about Future Wikileaks releases...
Jesus CHRIST... that RIGHT THERE... GAWD DAMN... that paragraph should be a thread...
My take is that Mueller basically let it be known that they had their hands tied behind their back.. and that if this were a Through FBI investigation.. they would have uncovered more facts about the Campaign that could be understood as Crimes..
Also was that redacted Statement referring to Stone and Wikileaks.
June 14... 2017... Washington Post... says Trump being investigated by Special Counsel..
June 15, 2017.... Trump goes on two day Tweet ... Witch Hunt Fury..
June 17, 2017.. Trump directly tells McGahn to remove the Special Counsel...
Trump calls him twice... Wants him to tell Rod to remove him...
This is after... Everyone telling him not to.. and that it would be another claim for obstruction..
DUring the second call.. Trump tells McGahn.. "Mueller has to go and Call me Back when you do it...
SO I ask.... BARR..
How the fuck is this not Obstruction...
Is the only reason this isn't obstruction... because McGahn didn't act on his...twice requests...
Hard to be strategic when emotions are running unchecked. It's just not his base. Trump will fuck around and get a few new followers off a failed impeachment on obstruction after they couldn't get the collusion rap. He'll control the narrative and the failures will be his proof.Dems are hell bent on running into this impeachment trap. And we will. And Trump will run on not guilty in 2020 and inspire his base to come out like crazy in 2020 because they’ll feel he has been wronged.
If that happens, dems better come the fuck out in 2020 for giving him a better chance because we can’t be strategic for shit.
There's almost no doubt that the Senate would punt on this but the impeachment process has it's own merits beyond that.
Hard to be strategic when emotions are running unchecked. It's just not his base. Trump will fuck around and get a few new followers off a failed impeachment on obstruction after they couldn't get the collusion rap. He'll control the narrative and the failures will be his proof.![]()
This is the point I was trying to make also Lawrence O’Donnell said the same thing I said about impeachment also the calendar is too short right For the Democrats to do anything because by the time you get to the full impeachment it will be election time. Also one correction Fox News is not completely on board with the exoneration. What Democrats can do is beat the Republicans on top of the head with this report until election time.Right off the bat, the article will reign him in. A trump that has been impeached and survived would be completely unleashed. What will Dems do? Impeach him again?
The thought this will cost him votes is misguided. Right now, this minute, Fox News has labled the mueller report released today as a full exoneration of Trump. During the impeachment hearings they would make him a martyr. And those guys don’t watch CNN or MSNBC. The believe both are fake news from the bottom of their hearts. And they believe anythin Fox News says and only Fox News.
Any Republican defending Trump will be a hero.
On the other side, Dems think impeachment means removal.
So after he’s impeached and giving his “I’ve been found completely innocent - again” speech the Dem base will be wondering how he’s still in office after being impeached and the dems in Congress having shot their biggest cannon at Trump and failed will be completely neutered. They’ll have no more arrows in the quiver.
Then in 2020 you’ll have a Republican base energized as fuck and a dem base that has been promised by liberal media and leaders that marching in the streets and impeaching, and mueller would remove Trump from office and none of them did. That dejection might depress dem enthusiasm.
That’s literally the best chance for Trump to win again.
The base is going to demand it and it will probably happen. Truthfully, it probably should happen. It just increases the chance we get 4 more years of Trump and I don’t want to risk it.
Interesting part on page 288... VERY FUCKING INTERESTING.... @easy_b and @Spectrum
Quoting the memo:
"The evidence does not establish that the termination of Comey was designed to cover up a conspiracy between the Trump Campaign and Russia; as described in volume 1, the evidence uncovered in the investigation did not establish that Trump or those close to him were involved in the Russian hacking. But THE EVIDENCE DOES INDICATE THAT A THROUGH FBI INVESTIGATION WOULD UNCOVER FACTS ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN AND THE PRESIDENT PERSONALLY THAT THE PRESIDENT COULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD TO BE CRIMES OR THAT WOULD GIVE RISE TO PERSONAL AND POLITICAL CONCERNS. .... Although the President publicly stated during and after the election that he had no connection to Russia, the Trump Organization through Michael Cohen was pursing the proposed Trump Tower Moscow and Candidate Trump was briefed on the progress of those efforts. .... IN ADDITION... , some witnesses said that Trump was aware that (REDACTED .. HARM TO ONGOING MATTER...) at a time when public reports stated that Russian Intelligence officials were behind the hacks and that Trump privately sought information about Future Wikileaks releases...
Jesus CHRIST... that RIGHT THERE... GAWD DAMN... that paragraph should be a thread...
My take is that Mueller basically let it be known that they had their hands tied behind their back.. and that if this were a Through FBI investigation.. they would have uncovered more facts about the Campaign that could be understood as Crimes..
Also was that redacted Statement referring to Stone and Wikileaks.
Dems are hell bent on running into this impeachment trap. And we will. And Trump will run on not guilty in 2020 and inspire his base to come out like crazy in 2020 because they’ll feel he has been wronged.
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This is the point I was trying to make also Lawrence O’Donnell said the same thing I said about impeachment also the calendar is too short right For the Democrats to do anything because by the time you get to the full impeachment it will be election time. Also one correction Fox News is not completely on board with the exoneration. What Democrats can do is beat the Republicans on top of the head with this report until election time.
Hard to be strategic when emotions are running unchecked. It's just not his base. Trump will fuck around and get a few new followers off a failed impeachment on obstruction after they couldn't get the collusion rap. He'll control the narrative and the failures will be his proof.![]()
His base but he lost majority of the middle of the road people from states like Michigan Wisconsin and PennsylvaniaHis base is coming out regardless. It's about the Dems getting their base out and then showing all the fringe voters that we have a real criminal in the Oval Office. Not impeaching because you're worried about it inspiring the Trumpsters is short-sighted and weak.
His base is coming out regardless. It's about the Dems getting their base out and then showing all the fringe voters that we have a real criminal in the Oval Office. Not impeaching because you're worried about it inspiring the Trumpsters is short-sighted and weak.
Oh shit.. true story..
page 292...
Trump says... Mueller has conflicts of interest..
I kid you not..
One of them: Mueller had disputed certain fees related to his membership in a Trump golf course in Northern virginia. WTF!!!!
June 14... 2017... Washington Post... says Trump being investigated by Special Counsel..
June 15, 2017.... Trump goes on two day Tweet ... Witch Hunt Fury..
June 17, 2017.. Trump directly tells McGahn to remove the Special Counsel...
Trump calls him twice... Wants him to tell Rod to remove him...
This is after... Everyone telling him not to.. and that it would be another claim for obstruction..
DUring the second call.. Trump tells McGahn.. "Mueller has to go and Call me Back when you do it...
SO I ask.... BARR..
How the fuck is this not Obstruction...
Is the only reason this isn't obstruction... because McGahn didn't act on his...twice requests...