Parental visitation: Who's wrong here in this situation?

If you are seriously dealing with someone who you fear would fucking plant drugs in your car, no child swap should be done anywhere else other than a police station and get it put in the visitation court order.

yeah my first job out of college was like that. the building was on 3 floors. one parent would drop the kid off on the third floor and the other parent would get the child on the bottom floor. these visitation and court agreements are some vicious shit.
 
The fact that she kept insisting on putting the baby in the seat is suspicious to me. If she's concerned about the car seat then watch him put the baby in the seat while she stands by and supervises. He has a right to deny her access to being in his car if he thinks she being nosey or might try to either take or place something in there that could get him in trouble. His tone didn't help matters though. Even though he didn't yell or be physical, his tone was still too aggressive towards her. Both of them look stupid and the baby is the one that has to take the L
 
They have a custody agreement/order (as evidenced by his recording and mentioning the judge). She cant arbitrarily refuse to transfer custody based on looking in the car. And if she does she will have to deal with those consequences. Woman can be petty, spiteful, and overly protective. Her actions were probably a result of all those things. As a man, its best to facilitate a smooth transfer of custody and not engage in petty bullshit... especially if you a parttime parent who just drove 2 hours to see the child. Why further delay that to argue about her touching your car and wanting to secure the child?

This is mindnumbingly imbecilic and immature behavior on his part. If she wants to secure the child in the vehicle and make sure he has a properly functioning car seat then let her and be on your way man. You're a fucking weekend dad.. Make the tranfer as smooth as possible and appreciate the fact she has the kid probably 90% of the time and is overly protective. Recording that dumb shit while refusing to let her do so is clown shit and can only end badly for him.

He looks and sounds like a fucking fool bro.

If they both go in front of a judge for new custody order and they are asked legal basis for both their refusals... She will simply say "i wanted to make sure he had properly secured and installed car seat.". He can only say "I didnt want her to touch my car your honor". Foh.

Breh, the way to handle that shit was to simply ask her to hand over the child twice and the to simply get in his car and drive away after two attempts were met with refusals. Never argue with broads. The honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us to let stupid women argue with themselfs. It's as almost as foolish in trying to argue with a white devil about racism and injustice. You'd just be wasting your time. :smh:
 
The fact that she kept insisting on putting the baby in the seat is suspicious to me. If she's concerned about the car seat then watch him put the baby in the seat while she stands by and supervises. He has a right to deny her access to being in his car if he thinks she being nosey or might try to either take or place something in there that could get him in trouble. His tone didn't help matters though. Even though he didn't yell or be physical, his tone was still too aggressive towards her. Both of them look stupid and the baby is the one that has to take the L

She probably just want to get back with dood and is acting out because she can't have her way with him. Bitches DO shit like that. :hmm:
 
What happens when you never tell a woman no? They will overstep their boundaries... This situation about a chick that dosent like boundaries or respect other peoples comfort zone...she's an habitual line stepper. She didn't like the fact he wasn't going to allow her to do whatever she wanted...she was on if I can't put my kid in your car she can't go.. What kinda bs is that..what was her obsession with her having to put the kid in the car..the kid could obviously walk but she continuously picked her up like she was on some ownership its my way or the highway shit.. Bitch is nuts

Right, court order says HAND THE CHILD TO HIM, that's it, no buckle your child or nothing added
All she kept doing was making excuses "You yelling, you pushed me, that ain't a child seat"....hahaha
Fuck that Bitch
 
She silly, he silly. Thats why they're both in this situation. Ive been here before years ago. Ive learned just to concede in a stupid situation like this. Let her win this petty battle and go spend time with ya daughter.
 
They have a custody agreement/order (as evidenced by his recording and mentioning the judge). She cant arbitrarily refuse to transfer custody based on looking in the car. And if she does she will have to deal with those consequences. Woman can be petty, spiteful, and overly protective. Her actions were probably a result of all those things. As a man, its best to facilitate a smooth transfer of custody and not engage in petty bullshit... especially if you a parttime parent who just drove 2 hours to see the child. Why further delay that to argue about her touching your car and wanting to secure the child?

This is mindnumbingly imbecilic and immature behavior on his part. If she wants to secure the child in the vehicle and make sure he has a properly functioning car seat then let her and be on your way man. You're a fucking weekend dad.. Make the tranfer as smooth as possible and appreciate the fact she has the kid probably 90% of the time and is overly protective. Recording that dumb shit while refusing to let her do so is clown shit and can only end badly for him.

He looks and sounds like a fucking fool bro.

If they both go in front of a judge for new custody order and they are asked legal basis for both their refusals... She will simply say "i wanted to make sure he had properly secured and installed car seat.". He can only say "I didnt want her to touch my car your honor". Foh.

You're making A LOT of generalized assumptions. You should just stick to what you hear and see. She's immature and petty. We don't know his reasons.
 
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Actually it's the complete opposite. There is no judge in America who is going to make it a prerequisite that the mom must strap in the baby as a condition of visitation. obviously a lot of you have never dealth with crazy chicks but dude was 100% correct by not allowing her inside his car. The broad could drop off a bag of coke call the police and then say he has drugs around his baby. She could get inside his car and try to trash it and refuse to move. It's a reason why he doesn't want her inside his car. Like I said y'all never dealt with crazy and and furthermore she can just hand over the baby. And you're ignoring the fact that she said he assaulted her in that video. Is that the person you want inside your car? Come on dude you're smarter than this

exactly this
 
I wanna hear from the women of the board on this... getch'all ass in hea

@melonpecan @sexypetiteone00 @MissMighty @Camille @JofromthaNO @cocobeauty

Shit is annoying to watch. First off kid is able to get in the car by herself she's not an infant df. The fact the mom kept picking her up tells you she's doing it for a reaction and his dumb ass gave it to her. Why not let her put the kid in the car knowing it's being recorded then whatever she does can be used against her to get full custody. Instead guy wanted to play into her bs and leave without his child obviously didn't want her that bad. Either way both are dumb
 
On a random side note: What's up with dudes calling women "bruh"/"bro"? I've seen that shit a lot, dudes calling their chick masculine terms like "bruh" and/or "nigga." Huh??? :dunno:
 
She’s 100% in the wrong.

I drove from Michigan to Wisconsin to pick up my daughter.... her mom refused to let her come with me because I was an hour early.

She spent 2 days in jail for that. Thanks Judge Moeller

These women are using children as leverage to control and have power over fathers.
 
If you are seriously dealing with someone who you fear would fucking plant drugs in your car, no child swap should be done anywhere else other than a police station and get it put in the visitation court order.

And the swaps would be done at the PD inside of the building. No where near the car.
 
She’s 100% in the wrong.

I drove from Michigan to Wisconsin to pick up my daughter.... her mom refused to let her come with me because I was an hour early.

She spent 2 days in jail for that. Thanks Judge Moeller

These women are using children as leverage to control and have power over fathers.

They are only doing what they have been allowed to do, for years.
 
This isnt that difficult. She's intentionally being a pain in the ass to be vindictive. All she has to do is hand over the kid. Period. She's being difficult to be mean to him. He's recording everything so she cant make false claims against him. Her behavior makes this necessary on his part. He should submit this video to the court to show her pattern of harassment. A judge will rule against her in this case.
 
I am rarely sick to my stomach by baby mother custody behavior...this is not one of those instances.

I would have asked, repeated the ask, then let the law ask her.

I am slow to anger, but that behavior would have triggered me to think physical, but not in front of my daughter.
 
I wanna hear from the women of the board on this... getch'all ass in hea

@melonpecan @sexypetiteone00 @MissMighty @Camille @JofromthaNO @cocobeauty

Don't know if I have enough info to call it, but they both seem dumb.

My damn child is an infant, we're still together (married,) and I can be a bit over-protective of putting our little one in the car. But, I'm not going to go back and forth with dad - there's hella backstory here (of course,) and a huge power play by them both.

And, who's hurting, in the end, by all of this: the poor kid. They're both idiots.
 
For the muthafuckas afraid to say it, "it is her fault." Period.

And the judge will see it that way. She has no right to put the child in the car. That is a stalling technique. That is a control technique. And she is using the child as a pawn for both. That should be obvious to anyone with eyes. As far as just letting her put the child in the car, he knows who he is dealing with. I have dealt with crazy bitches and he obviously has too. Ain't got shit to do with her touching the car. It's all the other shit he knows she is capable of that has him recording her from the jump.

Peep this. The bitch knows she is wrong and she knows she is being recorded and she STILL is violating the order. SHE CAN'T HELP HERSELF. (the telltale sign of a crazy bitch) That should tell you something right there.

A custody order requires she turn the child over. Period. Turn. The. Child. Over.

I guarantee that a judge will light her ass up and congratulate him on keeping his cool under the circumstances and leaving it to the court to handle.

And I agree that from here on out they need to use a child exchange service.
 
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Hell he put the the image on his page where he sent his baby gifts and she sent them back because they didn't have her last name. Yet niggas are defending this shit.

Exactly. He sent the child gifts while he was away on military duty and this spiteful bitch went on and on about how there wasn't anyone at her house with the name he put on the gifts so she was sending them back. It was like he must have used his last name for the baby and the mama said it wasn't no baby at the house with that last name so she sent HER OWN DAMN CHILD'S GIFTS BACK TO THE FATHER. INDEFENSIBLE.....

Keep living and you too will one day learn what this brother already knows......and most of us can see...
 
I really just feel bad for the kid. I wouldn't argue like that over something so minute in front of my seed. That baby looked uncomfortable. As a father he needs to be cognizant of that, and do his best to rectify the situation.

If the car seat is in question; take it to the firehouse and have them install it for him. Ask them if it's adequate for a child her age and size. Tape that interaction, send it to the BM, and shut the bitch up that way. There was way too much aggression in front of an uncomfortable child that has to endure a 2 hour drive back home for a weekend visit.
 
I really just feel bad for the kid. I wouldn't argue like that over something so minute in front of my seed. That baby looked uncomfortable. As a father he needs to be cognizant of that, and do his best to rectify the situation.

If the car seat is in question; take it to the firehouse and have them install it for him. Ask them if it's adequate for a child her age and size. Tape that interaction, send it to the BM, and shut the bitch up that way. There was way too much aggression in front of an uncomfortable child that has to endure a 2 hour drive back home for a weekend visit.

LOL...bruh, you are trying to use logic with an illogical bitch. She ain't going to give a flying fuck about a car seat being installed by a fireman, a policeman or fucking superman......

It ain't about the car seat. It ain't about the child. That mama don't REALLY care about strapping the child in the car.....AT ALL.....that is just what she is saying....for the camera...thinking she is smart and instead she is heading for a contempt case and jail....
 
LOL...bruh, you are trying to use logic with an illogical bitch. She ain't going to give a flying fuck about a car seat being installed by a fireman, a policeman or fucking superman......

It ain't about the car seat. It ain't about the child. That mama don't REALLY care about strapping the child in the car.....AT ALL.....that is just what she is saying....for the camera...thinking she is smart and instead she is heading for a contempt case and jail....

Trust me I'm not rallying for the bitch, but going back and forth with her (which is what she wants) is harmful for the kid.

I really want to see the follow up to this story. Where is it? I read about posts on his page, and she's pressing charges. Where can I find that info?

I hope the courts see the situation that she's instigating and how it is affecting the child and act accordingly. That poor kid. I hate seeing shit like this.
 
I really just feel bad for the kid. I wouldn't argue like that over something so minute in front of my seed. That baby looked uncomfortable. As a father he needs to be cognizant of that, and do his best to rectify the situation.

If the car seat is in question; take it to the firehouse and have them install it for him. Ask them if it's adequate for a child her age and size. Tape that interaction, send it to the BM, and shut the bitch up that way. There was way too much aggression in front of an uncomfortable child that has to endure a 2 hour drive back home for a weekend visit.
Getting a car seat installed is like trying to get healthy meat replacements for Jeffrey Dahmer... It was never about the product it was always about the mental case in the situation... There is no reasoning with nut cases.. Shorty is nuts Jus's like Jeffrey Dahmer was nuts...she's using fake claims like her daughter personally asking her to put her in the seat as a reasoning to habitual line step over that mans comfort zone.. 14-24 sec mark is all u gotta see.. Dude said he didn't want her entering his car and she rushed passed him and try to go to the other side to open the door.. Who told her she could over ride somebody commands with their own property..nobody did she Jus's felt like she could do whatever she wants..fucking nutso
 
don't know the whole story but there gotta be a reason he filming their encounter and don't want her in his car. i've seen and heard this story too much. they just gonna have to take time and get on the same page somehow and someway
 
So that shit is a real thing? Like a legit business solely for that purpose?

That's crazy as fuck... and people can't see how there is a whole industry in place to benefit economicallly off broken families
Yup my first job out of college was a supervised visitation and exchange place
 
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