If Aaliyah was alive would Beyonce still be BEYONCE?

[A to Dah K]

Aaliyah had the Timvalabd and Missy machine,no way she'd go the Mya route. Rihanna wouldn't exist if she were alive

where is tim and missy now?
Where is genuwine?playa?tweet?justin timberlake?

To survie in today's climate aaliyah woulda had to be making some ratchet shit talking about her vagina in all kinda ways and selling more of her body that she used to. Cant see it

 

[c_commander]

Aaliyah has become in all due respect, is overrated in death

I'm still shocked she's so much more admired in death than she was while she was alive. Because she was rather boring and she never sold records like Beyonce or Rihanna.

It's odd how Aaliyah has been more revered than Left Eye...who was far more popular and had more charisma and personality

Aaliyah's claim to fame is have underage relations with the pied piper perv

Aaliyah was a solo artist while Left Eye was in a group in which she wasn't the lead singer. So of course she'd be more revered. Her bringing Missy and Timbaland into the forefront also helps her legacy.
And yes Beyonce would still be around, relevant and very successful. Brandy was more popular than Aaliyah because she had a sound that was more pop and an image that was more accessible to the masses. Beyonce would fall in line with that.

Yes. Beyoncé vocal range alone drawfs Aaliyah.

Question is would Aaliyah break up her marriage.

If vocal range was that much of a factor Rihanna would have been gone years ago.

 

[TeEdIzZeL]

Off topic but I think if BIG were alive then JayZ and Puff wouldn't be as successful as they are.

 

[c_commander]

where is tim and missy now?
Where is genuwine?playa?tweet?justin timberlake?

To survie in todsys climate aaliyah woulda had to be making some wratchet shit talking about her vagina in all kinda ways and selling more of her body that she used to. Cant see it

They only one of those people still working with Missy and Tim is Justin Timberlake and his last project did pretty well.
Besides her working with Tim and Missy was her doing something different from everyone else before everyone else. Who's not to say that she wouldn't have done that again.

An I keep telling folks, Ashanti was the #1 female artist in the game for a time. Her debut album sales opening week were big

Ashanti's 2nd album went head to head with Beyonce's 1rst album when it came out and Ashanti was outselling her initially

 

[jasonblacc]

Truthfully Monica and Brandy are >>>>>>Aliyah

 

[Complex]

Aaliyah was a solo artist while Left Eye was in a group in which she wasn't the lead singer. So of course she'd be more revered. Her bringing Missy and Timbaland into the forefront also helps her legacy.

Are you kidding me?

You do realize TLC at the time were the best singing female group in history, right?

Left Eye was also the most entertaining one in the group, it didn't matter if she was the lead singer. She was the one everyone knew. Also the one who dated the football player, burned down the house and was on Death Row.

Aaliyah didn't bring them to the forefront either. Devante did. And Aaliyah coincided with Ginuwine and Playa coming out.

Aaliyah needed Timb and Missy, not the other way around

 

[A to Dah K]

They only one of those people still working with Missy and Tim is Justin Timberlake and his last project did pretty well.

That was years ago
Where is nelly furtado
That whole timbo style is a thing of the past man

 

[Complex]

where is tim and missy now?
Where is genuwine?playa?tweet?justin timberlake?

To survie in today's climate aaliyah woulda had to be making some ratchet shit talking about her vagina in all kinda ways and selling more of her body that she used to. Cant see it

Timbaland?

 

[Complex]

That was years ago
Where is nelly furtado
That whole timbo style is a thing of the past man

 

[BenQ]

Aaliyah wasn't that popular when she was alive

 

[BenQ]

A better question would jay z be this popular if big and PAC was still here
The answer is no , he would be like nas

 

[c_commander]

Are you kidding me?

You do realize TLC at the time were the best singing female group in history, right?

Left Eye was also the most entertaining one in the group, it didn't matter if she was the lead singer. She was the one everyone knew. Also the one who dated the football player, burned down the house and was on Death Row.

Aaliyah didn't bring them to the forefront either. Devante did. And Aaliyah coincided with Ginuwine and Playa coming out.

Aaliyah needed Timb and Missy, not the other way around

Again a group vs a solo artist. She was on Death Row and I don't remember anybody eagerly anticipating her album because she on Death Row after all the Death Row artists that people cared about had already left. Why would she be so revered when she was in a group and not the main person even if she was the most entertaining. ODB was the most entertaining member of Wu Tang doesn't mean that he should be the most revered .
Their work with Aaliyah is when people knew who they were. You're right in that it coincided with Ginuwine but her album did much better than his. Playa came out a good 2 years after the stuff with Aaliyah and Ginuwine.

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

Her debut album sales opening week were big

her last studio sold 187k opening week which was pretty average for 2001

 

[brando154110]

A better question would jay z be this popular if big and PAC was still here
The answer is no , he would be like nas

How many rappers have come and gone since Biggie and Pac passed? Lets say from 1996 to 2010, how many still standing? So 20+ years later several hit albums and a half a billion dollars later, he only made it because there's no Pac and Biggie???? GTFOH!!!!

 

[Complex]

Again a group vs a solo artist. She was on Death Row and I don't remember anybody eagerly anticipating her album because she on Death Row after all the Death Row artists that people cared about had already left. Why would she be so revered when she was in a group and not the main person even if she was the most entertaining. ODB was the most entertaining member of Wu Tang doesn't mean that he should be the most revered .
Their work with Aaliyah is when people knew who they were. You're right in that it coincided with Ginuwine but her album did much better than his. Playa came out a good 2 years after the stuff with Aaliyah and Ginuwine.

Do you know what you're talking about

CrazySexyCool went diamond. TLC was doing stadium tours and had number one rcords.

And yes more people still talk about ODB than U-God, GZA and Inspecta Deck.

Playa were out before Aaliyah. All of them were with DeVante.

Her uncle sought out Timbaland and Missy after R Kelly because of their talent and what they could do for Aaliyah...which they did

Which is why both of them exceeded her popularity after she died.

 

[Mack1052]

Are you kidding me?

You do realize TLC at the time were the best singing female group in history, right?

Left Eye was also the most entertaining one in the group, it didn't matter if she was the lead singer. She was the one everyone knew. Also the one who dated the football player, burned down the house and was on Death Row.

Aaliyah didn't bring them to the forefront either. Devante did. And Aaliyah coincided with Ginuwine and Playa coming out.

Aaliyah needed Timb and Missy, not the other way around

I say they both needed each other coming from bad situations. Aaliyah and the R. Kelly and Tim & Missy with Devante's bullshit.

Amazing music made by those three.

 

[Complex]

A better question would jay z be this popular if big and PAC was still here
The answer is no , he would be like nas

Dumb comment

so would Ja Rule have existed with Jay-Z and DMX were out....wait

You do know Jay and Big did songs together, right?

So Hardknock Life wouldn't have blown up because of Biggie

 

[BlackGoku]

How many rappers have come and gone since Biggie and Pac passed? Lets say from 1996 to 2010, how many still standing? So 20+ years later several hit albums and a half a billion dollars later, he only made it because there's no Pac and Biggie???? GTFOH!!!!

I could see Biggie leaving Bad Boy honestly..

Here's another what if though...how would the East vs. West coast beef ended if Pac and Biggie didn't die?

 

[cincitystudios]

her last studio sold 187k opening week which was pretty average for 2001

Ashanti sold over half a mil

 

[Complex]

I say they both needed each other coming from bad situations. Aaliyah and the R. Kelly and Tim & Missy with Devante's bullshit.

Amazing music made by those three.

In a way

but Missy and Timb were inevitable

Ginuwine had a double platinum album

All of them were involved, Timb, Missy, Static and even Magoo

Aaliyah's uncle recognized their talent.

 

[slewdem100]

Aaliyah wouldn't have altered the trajectory of anybody else career...Beyonce was well known while Aaliyah was alive as well...Aaliyah had a certain style and look that allowed her to become much bigger in death...Brandy and Monica were bigger artists and Beyonce and Rihanna became stars just the same

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

her last studio sold 187k opening week which was pretty average for 2001

My bad Reading is fundamental...i thought you wrote Aaliyah big debut sales

 

[jasonblacc]

Aaliyah went multi plat on all her albums so why are cats saying she didn't sell records? I think they definitely would've coexisted its always room for more than 1 artist. You had Patti, Diana, Aretha etc. so ain't nothing new.
I always thought Ciara really came out copying Aaliyahs style.
An I keep telling folks, Ashanti was the #1 female artist in the game for a time. Her debut album sales opening week were big

Nope, she was just riding the murder inc wave.

 

[brando154110]

A better question would jay z be this popular if big and PAC was still here
The answer is no , he would be like nas

Where is every artist that was signed to Death Row and Bad Boy?

 

[cincitystudios]

Nope, she was just riding the murder inc wave.

Shit her an Ja was the murder inc wave. Their wasn't anybody else

 

[Aww Skeet Skeet!]

Cats really dropping posthumous hate on Aaliyah? Chick could sing her ass off. Doubt it would have impacted Beyoncé. Maybe she would have bitten Aaliyah's style...

 

[drewmadara96]

Yes she would. Beyoncé would have some decent competition if Aaliyah was alive.

 

[A to Dah K]

Brandy and momica bigger than aaliyah?

 

[TooTrilla]

Aaliyah could not sing.

Most of these bitches can't sing

 

[Mack1052]

In a way

but Missy and Timb were inevitable

Ginuwine had a double platinum album

All of them were involved, Timb, Missy, Static and even Magoo

Aaliyah's uncle recognized their talent.

Aaliyah album came out first tho of that crew. She along with Gina Thompson were the first to put that duo into the forefront

 

[Complex]

Brandy and momica bigger than aaliyah?

Brandy sold more than Aaliyah and was also on a national tv show

 

[A to Dah K]

Aaliyah album came out first tho of that crew. She along with Gina Thompson were the first to put that duo into the forefront

Dark child did ginas song

 

[Complex]

Aaliyah album came out first tho of that crew. She along with Gina Thompson were the first to put that duo into the forefront

I guess

Ginuwine was already recorded and on the way. It came out a month later. And it's not like Aaliyah came out selling a lot and with a number one album. It was a slow burn.

Pony came out as a smash and did better than any single on the charts and commercially than any Aaliyah song on One In A Million. Once Pony came out, the Timb and Missy run was about to start.

 

[slewdem100]

Brandy and momica bigger than aaliyah?

Monica is debatable but I would say yes if my memory serves me correctly...Brandy? no contest, easily a bigger star

 

[Mack1052]

Dark child did ginas song

True. I'm talking this is the first Missy apperance